Subject: Re: IMAP HOW?

From: [email-masked] (Jie Yuan)
Date: 4 Nov 1996 21:55:20 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
	Harry Eldridge <[email-masked]> writes:
> HEllo all,
> How do I find out how to configure IMAP for pine?
> I tried getting some info from my computer by typeing man imap but no
> response. The man pages for pine were not any help either.
> I want to configure Imap to retrive my messages from my ISP instead of 
> useing popclient that produces a blank message every other message.
> Any help is appreciated.

You have to have root previlidge (be a sys adm) to set up an IMAP
server.  It is not your job.  It is your ISP's job.  You should ask
them.  It is quite easy to do if they want to set up one.

Even if the server is equipped with IMAP server, you may not see
any man page for it, unless such man pages are installed (not 
likely).  You can do a telnet to port 143 to test it it exists.
For example, I can "telnet ucunix.san.uc.edu 143" and see the
greetings from the server.  I had to use ^] to get out of the
telnet connection (quit, exit and bye all fail to kick it off).
You are warned ... :-)

Just my 2c.

Jie 
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From: [email-masked] (William L. Larson)
Date: 5 Nov 1996 14:53:40 -0700

>useing popclient that produces a blank message every other message.

As was stated in another followup, configuring an IMAP server to allow
you to retrieve your messages is the job of your ISP.  This is a server
process, not a client process.  Until your ISP provides IMAP services,
you are stuck.  (By the way, most of the time typing "man imap" will NOT
return anything unless there is a man page for a command named "imap".
From what I have seen, most IMAP servers run a process called "imapd".
The "man" command expects an exact match unless you supply a "-k" option.)

Be aware that some ISPs are less than thrilled with having IMAP because of
the possibility of users leaving mail on the system using up disk space.
They really want users to stick with a POP3 type operation where the
mail is downloaded and deleted.

Now, another possibility is that instead of using "popclient" you may
want to look into using "fetchmail".  "fetchmail" is the successor to
"popclient".  It may take care of the problems that you are experiencing.
No knowledge of any certainity though.

Just tried out "popclient" again and duplicated your problem.  What
appears to be occuring is the "popclient" adds an additional header line
which some mail clients interpret as the beginning of another new message.
(At least this is what appears to occur with the "Elm" mail system, "Pine"
may have the same type problem.)  Actually, it appears the "popclient"
adds two "From POPmail" header lines to each message.

You may want to track down the new "fetchmail" which may fix your
problem.  Or you can always strip out the extra header lines introduced
by "popclient" to solve your problem.  Either way, it will be simpler
than trying to set up an IMAP server.

Bill Larson ([email-masked])

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From: Harry Eldridge <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:47:02 -0500

HEllo all,

Thank you,
Harry

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From: Gregor J Jones <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:44:27 -0500 (EST)

On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Harry Eldridge wrote:

 | How do I find out how to configure IMAP for pine?

I don't know myself, but you can probably get started from the information
below:

-Gregor Jones

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From: Kyle VanderBeek <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 14:04:33 -0500

> How do I find out how to configure IMAP for pine?

It is difficult to figure out, there doesn't seem to be much info in the
given documentation.  The best place to look is in the heavily
documented pinerc file. Anyhow, the key is the use of curly braces like
{} in your pinerc to designate an IMAP host.  Here are some lines from
mine (pine 3.94 on Linux 2.0.20):

inbox-path={mailhost.calvin.edu}INBOX
....
{mailhost.calvin.edu}mail/[]

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