Subject: Re: pine3.95, hpux problems

From: Mark Crispin <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:55:03 -0800

The first and most obvious suggestion is:
	Don't use NFS to access mail over the net, use IMAP instead.
	That's what IMAP is for.

The problem is in file locking.  It doesn't work over NFS -- or rather, it
doesn't work reliably.  Pine has a test to see if a file is NFS and if so
it avoids doing file locking.  My guess is that HPUX 10.10 breaks that
test; probably the same way that Solaris 2.5 does. 

You'll be interested to know that SUN swears on a stack of bibles that
they have fixed NFS file locking so it's just like local files, and thus
it doesn't matter that they broke Pine's test.  You can see for yourself
how well they "fixed" it.

You'll find IMAP to perform much better than NFS, and you won't have these
locking problems.

On 13 Nov 1996, Bill Mahoney wrote:
> I have the following setup:
>    mail spool on an HPUX9.05 machine
>    client machine is HPUX10.10
> 
> The mail spooler is NFS mounted by the client machine.
> When I try to read mail from the client machine, pine
> hangs -- won't even give me the index of mail messages.
> 
> On the server machine I get an "RPC_UNKNOWNHOST message in
> the rpc.lockd.log file.  
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?

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From: [email-masked] (Bill Mahoney)
Date: 13 Nov 1996 14:46:17 GMT

This all works fine if I use elm on the client machine.

Anyone have any ideas? (besides switching to elm......)

Thanks

Bill Mahoney
[email-masked]

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From: Nicole Markee <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:36:20 -0500

Nicole Markee wrote:
> 
> I'm also having a problem with Pine 3.95 for HPUX.  I'm running version
> 9.0.
> 
> Pine seems to be fine by appearances.  I had no trouble compliling, and
> my mail folders look exactly as expected.  I receive mail fine.  I tried
> to send a message this morning, and I got this error:
> 
> Mail not sent. Sending error: 451 queuename: Cannot create "qfAA02305"

OK, I fixed the error message.  I had a permissions problem on the mail
queue.

I still have a problem sending mail:
None of my mail will go outside the firewall.  I need to figure out a
way to direct my outgoing mail there.  No problem with incoming.  No
problem sending mail inside the firewall.

Anyone done this before?

Thanks,
Nicole