Subject: Re: Iso-8859-1 ...???

From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:55:19 -0500

On 26 Nov 1996, Benjamin Gonay wrote:

> With some mails i receive, i've often this message :
> 
>     [The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set]
>     [Your display is set for the "ISO-Latin-1" character set]
>     [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly]
> 
> In my rc.keymap file, i load the be-lat1.map for the keyboard...i don't
> know if this has an incidence, or is it an other variable..?????

    Go into your Pine configuration (from the Main Menu) and set the
character set which *Pine* knows about to ISO-8859-1 .  Pine is
generating the message and does not know about your rc.keymap file. 
ISO-8859-1, I believe, is the standard designation, not ISO-Latin-1,
even though the character set is commonly referred to as Latin-1.

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From: "Alan J. Flavell" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:56:06 GMT

On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Alan J. Flavell wrote (excerpt):
> 
> >                                                       As far as I'm
> > concerned, DOS CP 850 and EBCDIC CECP1047 are valid encodings of
> > the Latin-1 repertoire.  Naturally, I agree that they aren't ISO
> > standard codings of the Latin-1 repertoire, but I never claimed
> > that they were.
> 
>     I totally agree with you.  However, with respect to Pine, a user
> will probably get more and better results by setting the character-set
> parameter in the configuration to ISO-8859-1 rather than to something
> else for Latin-1, because the former is probably in most common use.

Obviously I agree with that!

You've taken the remark entirely out of context.  I was only
commenting on someone's earlier claim that the expression "Latin-1"
meant "ISO-8859-1".

As to what you have said, well, you have to set PINE to agree with the
code that your terminal emulation is set to.  Alternatively you set your
terminal emulation to what PINE is set to.  Hey, I'm reminded of a
remark in a Chinese cookbook that says either this dish has to be eaten
immediately after it's cooked, or if that's not possible, it needs to be
cooked immediately before it's eaten.

best regards

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From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:18:21 -0500

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From: "Alan J. Flavell" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:27:27 GMT

On 27 Nov 1996, Georg Schwarz wrote:

> "Alan J. Flavell" <[email-masked]> writes:
> 
> >That's also my interpretation.  The term Latin-1 designates a repertoire
> >of characters, without particular reference to their assignment to a
> >character code.  One could refer to DOS CP850, and EBCDIC CECP1047, as
> >Latin-1 codes, but they certainly aren't ISO-8859-1 !!  ISO-8859-1 is
> >the specific ISO code that is defined for the Latin-1 character
> >repertoire. 
> 
> Latin-X or ISO-Latin-X is just an unofficial term for ISO-8859-X.

That isn't helpful.  Either provide authoritative references, or
accept the fact that unofficial usage is unofficial.  As far as I'm
concerned, DOS CP 850 and EBCDIC CECP1047 are valid encodings of
the Latin-1 repertoire.  Naturally, I agree that they aren't ISO
standard codings of the Latin-1 repertoire, but I never claimed
that they were.

Else I'll set my erstwhile usergroup ISO representative on you.  He's
a Quebecois, and even the French know better than to tangle with
a Quebecois ISO delegate... 

cheers