Subject: Requesting Automatic Message Acknowledgement

From: Jonathan David Makepeace <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:19:30 -0500

We are running Pine 3.91.

Is it possible to configure Pine to request acknowledgement that a 
message has been received?

Thank you.

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From: Don Sugarman <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:50:03 -0500 (EST)

> message has been received?

Yes.  Add a line to your signature file saying something like:
"Please respond by reply mail when you have read this message.  Thank you"

Hope this helps. :)

Don Sugarman
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From: [email-masked] (R. Stewart Ellis)
Date: 29 Oct 1996 17:37:20 GMT

Jonathan David Makepeace <[email-masked]> writes:

 >On 28 Oct 1996, Don Sugarman wrote:

 >On our old VM system people could automatically request that they receive 
 >an automatic acknowledgement message when a message recipient opened up a 
 >message for reading.  I expect that that was only true between local VM 
 >users,  but people are asking me whether Pine has a similar functionality.

 >If it does nobody seems to know about it.

Did you read my previous reply?  I said that many mainframe and PC packages
offer this privacy invading feature, but that it is not part of the Internet
standard.

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From: Jason Englander <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:05:55 -0600 (CST)

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> message has been received?

I have no need to do this, so I am unsure of the details, but I'm sure you
could figure something out with that by checking your sendmail.cf or on a
user level, maybe you could have procmail or elm's filter look through each
inbound message for a certain tag like return-request-reciept or whatever
it's called.

I remember having this as a built in part of Pegasus Mail for Windows when
I was using it.  

  Jason

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From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:30:01 -0500

> If it does nobody seems to know about it.

    As a onetime professional VM systems programmer, I can
categorically state that the receipt you can get back with CMS Notes (a
type of VM email system) and PROFS or OfficeVision/VM, if they ever put
it in the latter two, was strictly an IBM artefact that has nothing to
do with email delivered via the Internet.  Pine has NO such capability,
and return receipts, to the best of my knowledge, are not even defined
by Internet standards.  (Although there might be something on this that
I am not aware of.)

    You can, in your Pine configuration, add the customized header

Return-Receipt-To: {your_email_address}

Some receiving email systems will honor it and send you back a receipt,
and some will not.  There is no way you can force them to, so just
because you do not get a receipt back does not mean your mail went
astray.  And it does NOT mean the recipient has actually read your
message.  It only means that it was delivered to the inbox.  It says
nothing about what might have happened to the message after that.

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