Subject: Long waiting times when sending email

From: Koen Claessen <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:45:09 -0700

Hi there,

I have a problem with sending email in pine. For some reason, some email
addresses take a very long time (sometimes 1 or 2 minutes) to send a
message to. I press ^X, en it says "sending email", and I have to wait for
1 minute before I can proceed. The messages are not long, that doesn't
matter.

Does anybody know how I can let pine do this in the background?? So that I
can read/send other email?

Regards,
Koen.

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:09:28 -0700 (PDT)

Please go to the MAIN MENU and press "r" to read the Release Notes.
Look for the SENDING STRATEGY section.

-teg

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From: Koen Claessen <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:14:47 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Terry,

THANKS!!!! No long waiting times anymore!!

Koen.

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:08:03 -0800 (PST)

Does setting smtp-server=localhost help at all?
See the release notes for add'l info...

-teg

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From: Jason Englander <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:13:28 -0600 (CST)

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> can read/send other email?

Try leaving the smtp-server setting in your Pine setup blank.  This will
tell pine to pass the message off to the system's mail delivery agent
(probably sendmail), and sendmail will take care of it as you continue
reading/writing.

  Jason

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From: Tim Porter <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:33:55 +0000 (GMT)

> can read/send other email?

Koen,

I had this problem when I upgraded from 3.91 to 3.95. The problem is that
beginning with Pine 3.92 Pine attempts to send mail to an SMTP server
using SMTP commands, rather than by calling sendmail as a child process.

I solved this by setting the sendmail-path variable in our global
pine.conf file to point to 'sendit.sh', a shell script which sends the
mail using the old method. You can find this script in the contrib/utils
directory of the Pine distribution.

Here is an extract from the release notes which explains this:

 "SENDING STRATEGY
 
 Beginning with 3.92, Pine sends messages in a different way.
 Previously, Pine created a temp file containing the message to be
 sent, and invoked sendmail in a way that would cause it to derive
 the SMTP envelope information from the message headers.  This had
 several disadvantages, including the inability to support ESMTP
 options such as 8BITMIME.  So now Pine, by default, invokes sendmail
 such that it can directly interact via SMTP commands.  However,
 the direct interaction has caused undesirable side effects at some
 sites.  For example:
 
  o If your sendmail is configured to do address validation, it may
    take significantly longer for sendmail to accept the message
    than it used to.  The user sees this delay in Pine.
 
  o Some sendmails are configured to generate X-Authentication-Warning
    (see below for more information on this warning) headers when directly
    invoked by Pine.
 
 If you experience sending difficulties, the first thing to try is
 setting the following configuration variable:  smtp-server=localhost
 
 If that doesn't help, it's possible to revert to Pine's previous method
 of sending via a temporary file.  In the contrib/utils directory of the
 distribution, there is a shell script named \"sendit.sh\"
 
 To revert to the previous sending-method, install this script and set the
 sendmail-path variable to its path".

Hope this helps,

  Tim

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