Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails

From: [email-masked] (R. Stewart Ellis)
Date: 1 Oct 1996 12:31:50 GMT

[email-masked] (Abhay Roy) writes:

 >Zhenghao Yeh ([email-masked]) wrote:
 >: Hi! Expert,
 >: 
 >: How can I send broadcasting emails? I have a list of my friends, I want 
 >: to send the same email to all of them with one address on each mail 
 >: header. What I mean is that there shouldn't be all the addresses in the 
 >: header? Can pine do that? Thanks.

 >Not only pine, but all the mailers I know so far, CAN'T do this. 

What mailers do you know of?  Every other UNIX mailer I know of and have
used (mail, mailx, Mail, elm) can do this by using it from the command line
or a shell script with redirected input.  Since pine does not accept
redirected input (its main shortcoming IMHO), it cannot.

Here is an example of a shell script that would also work from a ksh, sh, or
bash commandline:

#!/bin/sh

for f in `ls -1 /export/home` ; do
 mailx $f < file-to-mail
done

This would mail the contents of file-to-mail to every user who has a homedir
in /export/home, one at a time.

 >The best you can do is something like this.
 >Send the message to YOURSELF, and put the distribution list as bcc. When it 
 >reaches all, they will see that mail was sent from you to you !! They won't
 >know, who else got a copy.

 >Later,
 >-Roy-
 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 >                   Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer
 >                           Cisco Systems Inc.
 >    "Better to understand a little, than to misunderstand a lot."
 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:03:32 +0100 (BST)

The current (3.95) version of Pine *does* accept redirected input.

Cheers,

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From: "R. Stewart Ellis" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:54:16 -0400 (EDT)

On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote:

> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:03:32 +0100 (BST)
> From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
> To: "R. Stewart Ellis" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails
> 

I really do want to upgrade my site to the latest, and this makes me want to
even more, but I get zero complaints/questions about 3.91, and I know I am
going to have questions when I do, and I do not have time to deal with them
right now.  Various things such as having to add patches that have not been
folded back into the base release to work around streams problems also make
me nervous.

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From: [email-masked] (Jie Yuan)
Date: 3 Oct 1996 16:10:19 GMT

> Not only pine, but all the mailers I know so far, CAN'T do this. 

Sorry to burst the bubble!  Pine 3.95 can do it.  I am not sure about 
other versions except 3.91 cannot do it.

First, create a list/group in the address book.  E.g., I created a group,
vol, for my volunteers.

Second, in Pine, do a "c" to start the composing page.  While the cursor
is still in one of the header lines, do a "^R" to get the "rich header"
mode.  Skip the "To:" line.  Go to the "Lcc:" line and enter the list/
group name (e.g. vol, see above).  After this is entered, the "To:" line
will be automatically filled by Pine.  Pine 3.91 does not have "Lcc:" 
line in rich header mode, so you may not be able to do this trick.

Third, the rest of mail composing is done normally.

Jie
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