Subject: Ctrl C ineffective

From: John de Boer <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:01:11 +1000 (EST)

I'm using Pine on a Mac in a university network.

Control C is ineffective. To make it effective, I have to first pull down
Sessions from the menu bar, click on Set-up keys and then in "Interupt
Process" chance the default ^C shown, to ^Z. Every time I open Pine.

Is there a way ^Z can be set as default?

PS the pc's on the network do not have this problem.  

Rgds

John de Boer

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From: Ed Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:50:07 +0800 (GMT)

> PS the pc's on the network do not have this problem.  

	Sounds like you are using a MAC.  

	I'm not a MACer....but the problem is most likely with your
telnet SW.  Are you using the NCSA telnet by any chance?  I've heard
there are ways to "fix" your problem....but not being a MACer.

	Does this fit the description of your problem?

	Ed

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:12:24 +0000 (GMT)

[Tut, tut, Ed ... you're slipping :-)
He actually said in his message he was using a Mac, and also that he knew
hot to fix it for the current session. :-]

John -

The problem you describe is nothing to do with Pine per se, but is to do
with your communictaions program's settings.

Your description of a fix suggests you are using NCSA Telnet (it would
have helped if you had said explicitly!).

If so then you have two possible solutions, one more general than the
other but relies on you being able to change NCSA Telnet's permanent
settings preferences file (or persuading your System Administrator to do
it).

General Method:
--------------
Select Edit menu -> Preferences -> Sessions
Select and change the session you use (possibly "<Default>").
Alter the keys defined there to meet your wishes.
	(eg, I actually set Interrupt Process to be empty as it will then
	get passed to the host for handling, rather than Telnet remapping
	it to an interrupt command within the Telnet protocol)
Save the settings.
Start a new session to your host and try things out.

(The settings in the "Sessions" preferences dialog form the default values
which you can subsequently modify for a connected session using Setup menu
-> Setup Keys...)

These changed settings get stored in NCSA Telnet's own preferences file in
your System Folder.  If you can't change this, or it gets reset
periodically (eg when the Mac is restarted) then you can't use this method
yourself (but may be able to persuade the Systems Manager to make the
necessary changes).

Host-Specific Method:
--------------------
Alternatively, try connecting to the host you use and configuring the
session's keys appropriately (using Session menu -> Setup Keys...).
Now use File menu -> Save set... to save these as a "settings document".
Quit Telnet.
Now launch Telnet *not* by double-clicking the application, but instead
double-clicking the settings document you saved.

This should connect you straight to your host ready for you to login with
your username and password.

It *may* have also saved the changes to the keys as well (check by
looking in the Session menu -> Setup Keys... dislog box).  [I haven't
tried this myself so can't say for certain, but it _may_ work ... it
depends on what gets saved in your settings document.]

If this works, keep the settings document somewhere convenient and always
use that to connect to your host, rather than just docule-clicking the
Telnet application.

Cheers

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From: John de Boer <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:22:50 +1100 (EST)

Hello

Preliminary info only.  I obtained three solutions to Ctrl C ineffective
on Mac, Pine on Telnet NTSC. Two are temporary solutions. One may be
permanent but not yet checked out. I'll post all  solutions after checked
out. Thanks a lot.

Is this a discusssion group?  I'd appreciate subscribing details please.
Again, thanks a lot.

Rgds

John de Boer

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:33:50 +0000 (GMT)

Yes, this is a discussion group.  You can read/participate in it in either
of two ways:

*  By joining a mailing list (Pine-Info), or
*  By reading a Usenet News group (comp.mail.pine)

The two are equivalent because a bi-directional gateway sends copies of
messages sent to one across to the other.

If you don't mind being bombarded by messages the Pine-Info mailing list
may well provide the most rapid response, whereas the vagaries of Usenet
News may mean that articles take a while to reach you.  However Usenet
News has the advantage that if you are busy or away for a while your
mailbox doesn't grow huge! :-)

If you wish to join the Pine-Info mailing list you can find out more ab
out it at the Pine Information Centre on the Web:

	http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/

In particular, how to join is explained at:

	http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subscribing.html

An archive of past messages (which is searchable) is also available there.
This is a useful place to start a search for information if you have a
prticular problem or question.

The comp.mail.pine newsgroup should be available on most sites' Usenet
News servers.  If it is then you can use your favourite newsreading
program (Pine?) to join in.

Cheers,