Subject: No Real Name, To:<newsgroup> instead

From: Haidinger Walter <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:49:19 +0200

Hello!

You probably have already noticed that my real name is missing when I'm
posting to newsgroups. Pine puts to:<newsgroup> in place of my real name.
BTW: I did set my real name in the configs altough this should not be
necessary since I'm working on unix (that is AIX 4.1.4).

Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

Thanks in advance for any replies!

Ah, just another one:
How do I tell pine insert a Reply-To Header with my name and email
address when posting? I added Reply-To to the customized-headers and
Reply-To shows up with Rich-Headers as it is supposed to but it is quite
annoying to insert my name and email address by hand every time.

As above, thanks for any replies.

Please mail me a copy if you're going to reply to the newsgroup. 
I'm not subscribed to comp.mail.pine. More thanks. 

-Haidinger Walter

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From: Ed Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:39:05 +0800 (GMT)

> necessary since I'm working on unix (that is AIX 4.1.4).

	Well...not quite true.  Everyone in the entire world sees 

	From: Haidinger Walter <[email-masked]>

	Please go to the i(ndex) screen and type ?(help).  Do a bit of
"Information Research" and find the following section:

  SENDER: The name or email address of the sender.  If you are the sender,
then the first recipient's name is shown here.  In Newsgroups, if you are
the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be
listed.

> Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

	It is not a "problem"...but you can change the behaviour of pine.

	Go to m(ain), s(etup), c(onfigure).  Find "index-format", type
?(help).  Do more "Information Research" and pay special attention to this
section...

The token FROM is like FROMORTO, except that it always shows the From
address, even if it is you.  TO always shows the first address from the
TO line, or the first newsgroup if there is no To.  SENDER can be used
to show the Sender of the message, as opposed to what is in the From line.
 
> Thanks in advance for any replies!

	Oh...I was hoping for a special thank you for typing so much...
:-)  However, I think I will save this response since this question gets
asked/answered over and over and over again.  I've done such a nice job of
cutting and pasting the help items it seem a waste to not save it....
 
> annoying to insert my name and email address by hand every time.

	Well....when you add it to the customize headers....put everything
there!...

	Reply-To: Haidinger Walter <[email-masked]>

	Or whatever is more appropriate for you situation...

> I'm not subscribed to comp.mail.pine. More thanks. 

	OK.....not a problem....

	Ed

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:52:59 +0100 (BST)

> Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

There is no problem -- only your own Index screen shows this, not messages
you send out.

This is because Pine is attempting to be very helpful and squeeze the
maximum amount of information into a small space.  The presence of "To:"
in an Index screen entry *implies* that the message was sent out by you.
Given that you now know this the rest of the space is used to remind you
who/which group the message was sent *to*.

This is invaluable when you keep sequences of messages (including your own
replies) in folders.

> annoying to insert my name and email address by hand every time.

Go back to the Setup Configuration screen and put the cursor back on the
customized-headers variable.  Typing a "?" will disply the built-in help
(see this command in the menu at the bottom of the screen?).

Amongst the rest of the help for this variable is this sentence:

	Each header you specify here must include the header tag
	(Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value
	for that header.

This implies that you simply need to change the custom header you added
from:

	Reply-to:

to:

	Reply-to: Your Name <[email-masked]>

The custom header will then have its value set to this value by default
for every message you send.

> I'm not subscribed to comp.mail.pine. More thanks.

Perhaps you should consider subscribing?  Your first question is asked
(and ansered) several times a week :-}  In return you may then be able to
help others with similar problems.

Cheers,

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From: Steven C King <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 19:05:39 -0400

> 	It is not a "problem"...but you can change the behaviour of pine.
[snip]
> to show the Sender of the message, as opposed to what is in the From line.

Hey!  Thanks a bunch for your reply on comp.mail.pine.  I've had the same
problem myself, but now you've given me some reading to do so that I can
cure this minor dilemma.  Thanks again.

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From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:40:25 -0400

> posting to newsgroups. Pine puts to:<newsgroup> in place of my real name.

    This is what *you* see.  We see your real name normally.  Pine does
this on purpose on the assumption that in your own folders, you already
know what your own name is, so Pine instead reminds you whom you sent the
message to.  Pine is working the way it is supposed to.  We see your
name correctly.  You are the only one who sees to:<newsgroup>.

> Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

    There is no problem to fix.  Pine is not broken.  This is the way
it works.

> annoying to insert my name and email address by hand every time.

    When you add the Reply-To: header in customized-headers, you can
also insert the value you want there in the configuration file so that
it will already be present when you start to compose a message.  You do
not have to fill it in every time.

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