Subject: Re: How do I save to a file?

From: "J. Tse" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:51:45 GMT

On 1 Oct 1996, Consumers Advantage wrote:

> I access my ISP through a Shell account and VT100 emulation. I then enter
> PINE and am in v3.94.
> 
> When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and
> I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command
> appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. In fact, I have many
> saved files out there and need to know how to get to them with my word
> processor.

  If your Shell account is on UNIX, try entering "sz filename" at the UNIX
prompt --- this command should start the transfer of the file from the
Shell account to your computer.
  Hope this helps.

J. Tse

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From: [email-masked] (Bev)
Date: 8 Oct 1996 02:51:10 GMT

Kathleen ([email-masked]) wrote:
| > > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and
| > > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command
| > > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. In fact, I have many
| > > saved files out there and need to know how to get to them with my word
| > > processor.
| 
| My provider only lets us have Pine or Lynx through a menu, we cannot 
| access the UNIX prompt.  Somehow there must be a way to get mail onto our 
| own hard drives from within Pine itself? 

Doesn't sound unreasonable, does it?  Try emailing [email-masked] and ask
how to do it.  MAYBE they'll tell you...

Crude way is to do a screen capture with your terminal software (procomm
does this with alt-f1) while you scroll the file. Does the menu allow
this? I had to do that for about a year because the lousy provider just
couldn't set up the system to support zmodem -- WHICH IS THE STANDARD OF
THE INDUSTRY, FOR GOD'S SAKE!  

If you want to download WordPerfect files, you will have to use uuencode
(if they offer this) to translate it into printable characters, do the
scroll thing, and then uudecode (you will need the uudecode.exe program on
your hard disk -- god knows how you're going to get it unless somebody can
give it to you on diskette) it when it gets to your hard disk. 

This is obviously an awfully cumbersome way to do things.  Best thing to
do is bug your provider.  If they simply don't offer any downloading
capabilities, you might use lynx to check out http://www.thelist.com which
lists ISPs by state, area code, etc., and find somebody who is more
reasonable.  Hang in there, things *will* get better :)

Bev                      [email-masked]
****************************************
My computer doesn't have to be friendly;  
     civil is entirely sufficient.

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From: Kathleen <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 10:10:01 -0700

> Shell account to your computer.

My provider only lets us have Pine or Lynx through a menu, we cannot 
access the UNIX prompt.  Somehow there must be a way to get mail onto our 
own hard drives from within Pine itself? 

Kathleen

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From: [email-masked] (Tom Cole)
Date: 5 Oct 1996 07:38:30 GMT

: > I access my ISP through a Shell account and VT100 emulation. I then enter
: > PINE and am in v3.94.
: > 
: > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and
: > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command
: > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. 

First,

if you are using Procomm Plus or similar comm program then: {just download
the file using Zmodem as usual} otherwise: sz -b {filename} will start the
downloading process if you want to start at the unix shell prompt.

one thing though:

when you get these and view them in WP 5.1 for DOS {example}, you may 
have to view it and/or save the file as DOS text instead of the way they 
came downloaded as you might find a bunch of cntrl codes throughout.
 
Thomas S. Cole
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans"
INTERNET ADDRESS:  [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Tim Mooney)
Date: 9 Oct 1996 14:13:03 -0500

> own hard drives from within Pine itself? 

Recent versions of pine support the download-command and
download-command-prefix in the config screen.  Basically it appears to be
a way to have pine start the appropriate command (sz, sx, kermit, etc)
for you automatically when you use Export.  If your ISP provides something
like Zmodem and has a recent enough version of pine you should be able to
configure pine to download email using these options.

Tim
-- 
Tim Mooney                              [email-masked]
Information Technology Services         (701) 231-1076 (Voice)
Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg.                 (701) 231-8541 (FAX)
North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105

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From: Kathleen <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 21:00:56 -0700

> reasonable.  Hang in there, things *will* get better :)

Thank you for the good advice; I have used the log capture in ProComm.  
But, I am trying to set this up for a man who is using a Braille reader, 
and is not used to switching between programs or Internet protocols.  Our 
provider only supports Windows, and Netscape just downloads your mail for 
you automatically.  I've been going over there and downloading his stuff 
for him in Windows and saving to his hard drive.  He wants to be 
independent, though...
Kathleen