Subject: Re: HOW DO I GET OLD NEWSGROUP POSTS!

From: "Steven King" <[email-masked]>
Date: 3 Oct 1996 13:08:35 GMT

Evan P. Herberg <[email-masked]> wrote:

>The editor may be
>unfamiliar to you, as it won't be pico (the editor on trn for me is JOVE),
>but shouldn't be too difficult to learn.  

trn respects the EDITOR environment variable, so you can set your editor
to be anything you want.  Mine is set to "pico", for whatever reason... 
:-) 

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From: [email-masked] (R. Stewart Ellis)
Date: 3 Oct 1996 14:25:43 GMT

[email-masked] (Evan P. Herberg) writes:

 >In article <[email-masked]>,
 >Hopeless Romantic (Karent Urena) <[email-masked]> wrote:
 >>
 >>HELP!
 >>	Can someone please tell me how I can get old messages from a 
 >>newsgroup? I have eXpunged many of them but there seems to be follow-ups 
 >>to messages I haven't seen. HELP!
 >>
 >>Thanks in advance!
 >>
 >>Karent

 >	If you want the best way to follow threads on newsgroups and be able
 >to read old posts - in the order they are meant to be read in -- then use
 >TRN for news-reading.  If you are using UNIX, and I assume from an 'edu'
 >environment that you are, then you should have access to trn.  It's
 >article organization with a "tree" diagram to show you exactly the order
 >that follow-ups and replies were posted as well as having access to old
 >articles in the thread simply by moving up the "tree" make it a more
 >efficient and valuable newsgroup browser than Pine.  The editor may be

This does not answer the question:  old articles are available at
http://www.dejanews.com/

 >but shouldn't be too difficult to learn.  Believe me, although Pine's E-Mail

At many edu sites the default editor is vi (YUCHH!).  Most reasonable
software however checks the EDITOR environment variable.  Set that variable
to the editor of your choice and most real newsreaders will honor it.

 >capabilities are arguably better than elm, mail, or other UNIX mailers, for
 >newsgroups it comes up way short in comparison to the other UNIX news
 >readers -- as you'll see upon starting trn.

No argument there!  But at many sites the person who maintains newsreaders
does not care about true threading (e.g. me), and does not have time to
maintain all the possible newsreaders.  At my site I only support nn (no
threads, but my newsreader of choice) and tin (threads, but a lot of user
interface deficiencies IMHO).

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