Subject: Quistion about Pine

From: Luxi Xia <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:42:17 -0700 (PDT)

Hi! My name is Lucy, I have used "pine" in my E-mail for several month, it
worked well. But when I opened "pine" today, I find all of my Fold massags
has gone! There are not any thing to view by me! I didn't deleted and save
them, I don't know where I can find all of previous massages? Whould you
please give me a instruction? I'm lookforword your help. because there is
some massage very important to me.
Thanks a lot!
Lucy 96-9-19

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From: Dana Brewer <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:24:31 -0500 (CDT)

I've just tried searching the archives of this list and couldn't find an
answer to this problem.  We've created a batch of student accounts which
will be using Pine 3.93 on a RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.5.  The .profile
takes the students directly into Pine and then logs them off the system
when they type "Q" - so they're not allowed to the Unix prompt at all.
For some reason, these students are being logged off the system after 2
minutes of inactivity.  I've been looking for some sort of timeout value
in Pine's configuration, but I haven't been able to find anything so far.
I don't believe it could be at the Unix level.  However, our regular user
accounts *don't* sign off after inactive periods.  Also, some of these
student accounts don't sign off.  We've comparing every system file in the
student accounts line by line, but so far have found no differences.  Has
anyone else ever encountered this problem?

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 Dana Brewer
 Director, Computer Center             Internet:  [email-masked]
 Navarro College                       Phone   :  903-874-6501
 3200 W. 7th Ave.                      FAX     :  903-874-4636
 Corsicana,  TX  75110

All opinions stated are my own, and probably don't even vaguely resemble
those of Navarro College.  :)
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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:37:00 -0700

On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Dana Brewer wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, David L Miller wrote:
> 
> > On 19 Sep 1996, Dana Brewer wrote:
> > 
> > Have you checked the .pine-debug* files?  They should give an
> > indication of why Pine exited....
> > 
> > --DLM
> 
> Yes, I have - but I don't really understand what it's trying to tell me.
> Here's a sample of one of the .pine-debug files:
> 
...
> 
> 
> ** Parent found to be init!?!
> 
> about to end_tty_driver
> 

Aha!  Recent versions of Pine try to figure out if it is still
connected to a user by checking the parent process-id to see if it is
process 1 (init).  If it is, Pine assumes that the user was
disconnected and Pine somehow missed the SIGHUP.  This was implemented
to handle a problem of zombie Pine sessions on some systems...

The most likely cause of this is that the shell that started Pine
exited for some reason.  It is possible that the shell doesn't set up
all of the signal handlers before sourcing .profile.  It is also
possible that the shell is responding to a signal from a process that
Pine forked.

Does that give you any clues?  If not, please send a copy of your
script(s) and configuration to [email-masked].

--DLM

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