Subject: Using Pine as a POP Client.

From: ness <[email-masked]>
Date: 6 Sep 1996 22:21:47 -0700

I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and
fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here
over a PPP line.  However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it
came from [email-masked]  I'm really at [email-masked], or preferably
[email-masked].  Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with
that in the From: field?

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From: [email-masked] (Trent Piepho)
Date: 8 Sep 1996 09:08:32 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
>[email-masked].  Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with

Well, you can do several things.  I don't think Pine will let you change your
user name from root to ness, just because that would make sending fake email
too easy.  You can however change the domain name from scf.usc.edu to whatever
by setting the user-domain option, in pine's setup menu. 

Another way to change the domain name is in sendmail.  You should have a line
in your /etc/sendmail.cf file that looks like this:
# who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading)
DM

Just add the domain you want mail to appear to come from after the DM.  This
way if you send mail with elm, mail or netscape instead of pine the domain
will still get changed.  This is how I do it.

If you want to change the username, I would suggest making a user called "ness"
and using that instead of root.  You really shouldn't use your computer as root
all the time anyway.

There is also a header field called Reply to:  for when you want email replies
to go to a different email address than the mail came from.  Mailing lists
often use it.  I'm not sure how to get pine to automatically add this.
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From: [email-masked] (HemiCuda)
Date: 7 Sep 1996 18:12:00 GMT

: 	I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and
: fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here
: over a PPP line.  However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it
: came from [email-masked]  I'm really at [email-masked], or preferably
: [email-masked].  Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with
: that in the From: field?

Are you logging into the Linux machine as "ness"?  You'll need to be doing
that if you are not now.  Also, in Pine setup, you can set the domain name
so that it'll show "usa.net" after the "user@".  

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Scott Moseman
[email-masked]

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From: Javier Iglesias <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:39:23 -0400

On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, reith wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> > 
> > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server??
> > 
> > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ??
> 
> I think there is a POP version of pine but I am not sure.
> However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP.

Yes.. I know about Netscape.. but sometimes I have to telnet from a 
remote location that only has terminal capabilities.. so I can only run 
pine.. but I'l check into the pop version of pine.. or maybe someone else 
can tell me about a good poper for linux??

thanks!

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From: Jason Englander <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:22:06 -0600 (CST)

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> can tell me about a good poper for linux??

I'm using Pine 3.95 for Linux and although I use a 'popper' to get my mail,
I also have my inbox on my ISP's mail server set up as an incoming folder -
just for the heck of it...

My ISP (InterLink LC)'s mail server machine is: mailhost.interl.net

in $HOME/.pinerc - with incoming folders enabled:

incoming-folders="Interlink Inbox" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX

With the above, your INBOX will be /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME (the local
inbox) and Interlink Inbox is the remote INBOX.

If you want to change INBOX from /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME to your inbox on
the remote machine (then you won't be able to read locally delivered mail
with Pine), set this in $HOME/.pinerc

inbox-path={mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX

I also use popclient to get my mail which throws it in
/var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME.  Try
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Mail/pop/popclient-3.0.tar.gz

Read the INSTALL file, follow the instructions, then create .poprc in your
home directory.  To get my mail from the same inbox as above I have the
following two lines in my $HOME/.poprc:

defaults localfolder /var/spool/mail/A
server mailhost.interl.net proto pop3 user B pass C

A = my username on the machine running Pine
B = my username on the ISP's mail server
C = my password on the ISP's mail server

Once that's set then you simply run popclient (no cmdline parameters
are necessary because of the .poprc in your home directory) to get your
mail.  ...it will then be placed in /var/spool/mail/[a] and you can then
read it on or offline using Pine by selecting your INBOX folder.

  Jason

PS - There is no 'pop version' of Pine, pop support is built in (and stable
- - for me at least - in v3.95)

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From: Speedy <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 17:24:49 -0700

> If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ??

I believe it does, just specify your inbox, in config, like this:

{mail.server.com/pop3}

It will ask for your login name and password, then d/l the mail.
imap is better though, if you have imap access, just put in:

{mail.server.com}

imap doesn't have to d/l the entire mailbox either.  I believe pop does.

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From: [email-masked] (Ahmad Faridzun Misron)
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 13:31:39 GMT

>[email-masked].  Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with

Run pine, press S for setup, and then C for config.
Put the approriate address in the Reply-to: field

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From: reith <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 19:31:03 +0200

Hello,

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From: [email-masked] (Rudy Zijlstra)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:14:05 GMT

>can tell me about a good poper for linux??

I am using Netscape when running X and elm when logging into through
telnet. I've set them up to use the same folders. The result is that i
can use them intermixed (not at the same time of course) without losing
any mail messages. 

Rudy
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From: [email-masked] (Jason Luther)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:44:18 -0600

> >> However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP.

To get my mail from my service provider to my linux box, i use this short
script that runs popclient. 

#!/bin/sh
popclient -3 -k -u username -p password -o /var/spool/mail/username 
   service.provider.com

This works well for me. Try 'man popclient'.

-jason

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From: "Richard G. Roberto" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:49:01 -0400 (EDT)

> However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP.
Most linux distributions come with a utility called
popclient.  I know Debian linux 1.1 does.  Try "man
popclient" for help.  Outside of that, you can try naming a
folder collection with standard syntax + /pop3 to denote the
protocol in pine and it should retrieve the messages.  I'm
not sure if it deletes them from the POP server though.

Good luck

Richard G. Roberto
[email-masked]
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From: [email-masked] (Ashok Aiyar)
Date: 9 Sep 1996 17:23:10 GMT

>can tell me about a good poper for linux??

Standard Unix Pine with no modifications can access pop3 mailboxes.
The syntax in .pinerc is ....
incoming-folders={pop3-host.domain/pop3}Label

For instance I have used .....

incoming-folders={facstaff.wisc.edu/pop3}FacStaff Mail
where facstaff.wisc.edu is the pop3 host, and "FacStaff Mail" was the
label I picked for that mailbox.

Ashok
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From: Matt Chatterley <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 16:11:53 +0000

On 6 Sep 1996, ness wrote:

> Date: 6 Sep 1996 22:21:47 -0700
> From: ness <[email-masked]>
> Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware, alt.os.linux, comp.mail.pine,
>     comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.setup
> Subject: Using Pine as a POP Client.
> 

Yep. Two options.

1. Put "Reply-to:[email-masked]" in the customised headers bar.

2. Compile pine yourself (A good chance to upgrade to 3.9.5 anyway), and
enabled ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM at compile time, then put
"From:[email-masked]" in the custom headers option bar.

I use the latter. As an aside, such a wide crosspost was unnecessary,
since comp.mail.pine is the ideal group for this question ;)

Regards,

	-Matt Chatterley
http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html

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From: "Alfredo E. Alvarenga" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 09:08:03 -0400

> If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ??

I use pine in tandem with a 'crontab' (cron is a utility to schedule
jobs) entry that has popclient in the command field.  It works fine.

alfredo

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Martin)
Date: 14 Sep 1996 18:22:35 GMT

>can tell me about a good poper for linux??

There is an excellent utility available from sunsite called fetchpop. This
can run as either a daemon or a command line to get mail from a specific
pop server. It stores its preferences in a file which keeps your user name
and password encrypted. Very good for security purposes. Suggest you try
it out.
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From: "Maan M. Hamze" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:50:10 -0500

> 
> In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Christopher Gushue) writes:
> 
> >ness ([email-masked]) wrote:
> >: came from [email-masked]  

Of course since it appears you are logging in as Root.  Create an
account in your username name as that of your e-mail and log in as Root
and connect. Then log in as ness.  

>I'm really at [email-masked], or preferably

Yes there is.  in sendmail.cf change the "masquerade" line into:
DMscf.usc.edu       OR
DMusa.net

Your messages will appear as though they are comnig from [email-masked] or
the other one.  And automatic replies will go this address.  Then you
can pick them up using pop3.
M

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From: roam <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:21:41 -0300 (GMT)

Hi, can i  make aliasses for hostnames
	like this:
	kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw
	can i put instead of that server
	a nickname , { kuc01 } 
	and  e-mail all the users that on that server
	by for example
	instead of [email-masked]
	i can put el941826@kuc01
	and       md950117@kuc01
	thanks

					Omar Butaiban

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From: [email-masked] (Christian Benjamin Monkman)
Date: 12 Sep 96 18:10:11 GMT

>: that in the From: field?

Check your pinerc file, there is a section in there for custom headers. 
In there, add a Reply-To: field, and put the email address you want 
replies to the message to go.
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No relation.

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From: [email-masked] (Christopher Gushue)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:55:26 GMT

This may be because you are using your root account for email. Try setting up an account with your real email name, and it might work. Good luck.

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 96 18:05:33 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
>so that it'll show "usa.net" after the "user@".  

Or you can set the environment variables HOSTNAME and LOGNAME to the
correct values. You should make a .login file in your home directory
that looks like this (or the variables will be reset to their default
each time you log on):

  #/bin/csh

  setenv HOSTNAME usa.net
  setenv LOGNAME ness

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From: "Dennis M. Gray" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 08:07:23 +1000

> > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ??

I use Netscape most of the time but Pine works fine

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 96 09:59:07 GMT

#/bin/csh

  setenv HOSTNAME usa.net
  setenv LOGNAME ness