Subject: Arrgghh!! Pine and the mail2news gateway??????

From: [email-masked] (CodeQueen)
Date: 6 Sep 1996 23:53:27 -0400

Pine apparently 'helps' you by preventing you from MAILing a message with
the Newsgroups: header set to some value.  This then means that you can't
use pine to send mail to the mail2news gateways, which expect to receive
MAIL with a Newsgroups: line defining where to post the enclosed message.
They will also respect an enclosed References: line, to properly link follow
on messages.  This header also is not supported in Pine in regular mail.

Arrgghh!!  Does 3.95 fix this??  Isn't there any way to get 3.94 to send
the mail, and not cry about the NNTP not being set up??

Pauli

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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:32:17 -0500 (CDT)

The mail-to-news gateway I use on occasion requires me to name the 
newsgroup in the "To: " header.

May I ask what gateway you use?

On 6 Sep 1996, CodeQueen wrote:

> Date: 6 Sep 1996 23:53:27 -0400
> From: CodeQueen <[email-masked]>

> MAIL with a Newsgroups: line defining where to post the enclosed message.

Just add the "References: " header in customized headers. It is 
supported. On the other hand, Pine does not allow you to manually enter 
information into the "In-Reply-To: " header.

Before sending the followup article, enable the full headers. Then, 
manually cut the Message ID, and paste it into the References: header. 
But, do remember to cut the other 30 unneeded headers!

This is not necessary in version later than 3.91. Just enable viewing the 
"Message-ID: " header.

> on messages.  This header also is not supported in Pine in regular mail.

Incidently, to those of you reading this as a followup article on Usenet, 
this message was sent to the pine-info list with the References: header 
added. The header is not always passed through upon being gated to Usenet.

I am curious to try her mail-to-news gateway, to see if it preserves more 
headers.

I have tried manually entering Message IDs into header information for 
the purpose of news-to-mail gateway. But, Pine does not allow additional 
Message IDs to be entered into the "In-Reply-To: " header, even though 
that does seems to be encouraged by the RFC!

What would be really nice would be if gateways automatically converted 
"References: " to "In-Reply-To: ", to allow for threading, so that the 
author of the reply/followup article doesn't need to.

It would also be nice if Pine threaded e-mail messages, wherever the 
"In-Reply-To: " header existed. (Many MUAs don't add that header.)