Subject: message gone!

From: [email-masked] (Adam Vardy)
Date: 4 Aug 1996 01:17:53 GMT

I had a postponed message.  Just now I started continuing to write it.  
Then I think I pressed Control C.

There is no sign now of this message anywhere.  Gone!  Arhhh..#$!

Can I get it back?

If not, I really think Pine ought to be updated so that it would not destroy 
messages.

This message had already been saved to a message folder called postponed 
messages.

- Adam

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:14:26 +0100 (BST)

It would have helped if you had mentioned what version of Pine you are
using!

The old Pine 3.91 did indeed throw away your message if you cancelled it
(with ^C).

However later versions (possibly 3.92, certainly 3.93, current version is
3.95) usually write cancelled messages to a file called "dead.letter" in
your home directory just in case the cancellation was accidental.  PC-Pine
also, I presume, offers this functionality, although I don't know the name
of the file it uses.

If you are using Pine 3.93 or later and this isn't happening it has
probably been turned off in your preferences ... check your Setup
Configuration screen.

(In passing I presume you don't mean that Pine really did throw your
message away "just" by you typing ^C?  I suspect it then asked you whether
you _really_ wanted to cancel the message, to which you must have replied
"Y", before it did so.  However I admit it is unfortunate that most
keyboards have X and C next to each other (^X = send, ^C = cancel) :-)

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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From: Michael Schuyler <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:28:08 -0700 (PDT)

> There is no sign now of this message anywhere.  Gone!  Arhhh..#$!

No

> If not, I really think Pine ought to be updated so that it would not destroy 

I don't think so, myself. It already allows postponed messages (severl, if
you want) If you start composing and cancel, that's you decision. What
you're asking is for Pine to not delete a message when you ask it to
delete a message. You could always keep the prompting on. It ASKS you if
you really want to cancel the message and you must say "Y" to really
cancel it. 

> This message had already been saved to a message folder called postponed 
Right, and you took it FROM postponed messages to work on it some more.
Then you cancelled it. Pine acted correctly. 

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From: Andrea Gonzales <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 10:48:47 -0500 (CDT)

The properway to do this is if you go to a postponed msg. and then decide
not to write anything again, you postpone it again. ^O
Good Luck. 

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From: Jeffrey Goldberg <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:57:57 +0100

Adam,

It is a little difficult to figure out what happened.

> Then I think I pressed Control C.

Control C (for cancel) asks for confirmation.  Did you confirm that
you wanted the message cancelled?  Remember, ctrl-O is for postpone.

Also, version 3.95 (at least) writes the most recently cancelled message
into a file called deal.letter.  If you haven't cancelled anything since
it whould be there.

> If not, I really think Pine ought to be updated so that it would not destroy 

I really does make it hard for you to destroy messages, but cancelling,
confirming it has to believe you.  Even then it gives you a chance.

Minden jot,
 
-j

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From: Nevin Kapur <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 17:46:09 -0400

I have faced similar problems (^C instead of ^X). Even if Pine does not
store the message, most probably a copy of the editor buffer will be there
in your home directory (I am assuming you are using UNIX). If you are
using the default - Pico- this file is #pico... something like that.

Hope this helps

-Nevin

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