Subject: Re: What is Bounce?

From: [email-masked] (Mark M.)
Date: 01 Aug 1996 22:48:41 -0400

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Adam Vardy) writes:

> Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does?

Bounce redirects a message to a specified address.  All the headers are kept,
and "Resent-From:" and "Resent-Date:" are added.

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:23:20 +0100 (BST)

There is are some more important distinctions between Forward and
Bounce...

1.  Alf sends a message to Bert.
    Bert thinks "I can't answer this, but Charles can".
    Bert bounces the message to Charles.
    Charles receives the messsage, which is marked as being from Alf
	(although the additional "Resent-From:" header lets him know that
	it cam by way of Bert).
    Charles hits "R" to reply, and the reply is directed straight back to
	Alf.

If Bert had used Forward instead of Bounce then Charles' reply would have
been directed to Bert instead of Alf.

Bounce is useful for "passing the buck"-type messages (where you are
relaying the received message on to someone else to deal with and respond
direct to the original enquirer).  For example, staff on a Help Desk can
find this useful when redirecting received queries on to the people
destined to answer the problem.

Forward is useful when you want to pass a message on "for information" or
prefaced with your own comments.

2.  Bounce sends the message on "as is": no ">" quote characters are
introduced, and you are not given a chance to modify the text.  Forward
quotes the included text and also lets you your own comments.

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:02:05 +0300 (EET DST)

> and "Resent-From:" and "Resent-Date:" are added.

And what is the difference from forward?
The Resent-From and Resent-Date do not exist in a forwarded message?

Thank you,

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From: "Mark M." <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:59:39 -0400 (EDT)

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> The Resent-From and Resent-Date do not exist in a forwarded message?

Correct.  None of the original message headers are used in the forwarded
message.

- -- Mark

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From: Shawn McMahon <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:47:43 -0500

> Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does?

Yes; Pine can.  Hit B to start the bounce process, then hit ^G to Get
Help.

  Shawn McMahon          | Smokesignals Computer Company
  Senior System Operator | Southern Oklahoma's Internet Service Provider
  Chickasaw Nation Net   | 405 332-0033   http://www.chickasaw.com

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From: [email-masked] (Svante Pettersson)
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 23:38:16 GMT

>Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does?

Say you get a mail from [email-masked] that was intended for me. If you
forward it to me I'll get the mail as "From:
[email-masked]". If you OTOH 'Bounce' that mail to me,
i will get it as "From: [email-masked]" and if I look into the headers
I'll see "By way of abe004@Info...".

Could be handy if I filter my mail based on the "From:" field
.
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Svante Pettersson, [email-masked]
Content editor, http://www.deep-purple.com/
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From: Jeffrey Goldberg <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 17:58:28 +0100

> Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does?

Bounce is like Forward, except:

   that were Forward included the forwarded message in the body of
   a new message, bounce resends the message itself.

   Forward will create a brand new set of headers for the message
   it sends (and include the old headers in the body of message),
   while bounce will reuse the original headers (including the
   to and the from), but will send the message to the person you
   specify.

   Bounce will add to the headers "Resent-to:" and "Resent-from:"

I usually use bounce when someone sends me mail that really should have
gone to someone else.  That way the real recipient can reply to the
message and the reply will go to the original sender.  However,
when I bounce a message to someone, I let them know (possibly via
a separate email message) that I am doing that.

I have also used bounce as a lazy way of moving mail from one
account to another.

-j

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