Subject: X-Reply-To in Pine?

From: [email-masked] (Craig R. Ruefenacht)
Date: 21 Aug 1996 22:21:30 GMT

Hi,

Does anyone know if Pine supports the X-Reply-To (or Reply-To)
header?  I am trying to get Pine to use this header for the
address to reply to when I reply to mail, but I haven't
been able to get it to work.  Elm, zmail, rmail, and other
mailers do this automatically, but Pine doesn't.

Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated.

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From: [email-masked] (Craig R. Ruefenacht)
Date: 22 Aug 1996 03:57:00 GMT

Paul O Bartlett ([email-masked]) wrote:
: On 21 Aug 1996, Craig R. Ruefenacht wrote:

: > Does anyone know if Pine supports the X-Reply-To (or Reply-To)
: > header?  I am trying to get Pine to use this header for the
: > address to reply to when I reply to mail, [...]

:     You can add the Reply-To: header yourself.  From the Pine main
: menu, just go into Setup and Config.  Scroll down to customized-hdrs:
: and add the header you want.  That should do it.

: Paul                             <[email-masked]>

That doesn't solve my problem.......I want to know how to get
pine to *recognize* the Reply-to header when pine *receives* mail
with this header.  I am not trying to add headers to a message I
compose in pine.  I am trying to get pine to recognize the header
on incomming mail.

Lets say that someone from Germany sends me mail, and has a
X-Reply-To: header in his mail.  So the headers look like this:

From: [email-masked]
X-Reply-To: [email-masked]

Now, I go read the message in pine.  Cool.  Now I want to reply.  So,
I hit the "R" key for reply, and whala, the mail is addressed to
go to [email-masked].  Humm... johndoe put a x-reply-to
header in his mail so that MY mailer would send any replies to
[email-masked], NOT [email-masked].   I can't get
pine to recognize that when mail IT RECEIVES has x-reply-to
headers, to USE that header for the reply address INSTEAD
of the "from" header.

I've tried it with X-Reply-To: and Reply-To, and neither worked. 

Sure I could do it manually, but this is not for me.  I use zmail.
But I am writing a tracking system for mail, and all the mailers I
have tested understand the Reply-To: header stuff, but Pine doesn't.
Reason why I need it to work is because people will be getting mail
from my tracking system, with x-reply-to headers in the mail.  Some of
these people use pine, and they need pine to *automatically* say "hey,
this mail I received has a x-reply-to header, so if the user ever
replys to this message, I should send the reply to the address in the
x-reply-to header *instead* of the one in the from header".

Does that make sense?

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:24:51 +0100 (BST)

Ummmm..... Pine certainly recognises and acts upon the "Reply-To:" header
field contained in the headers of messages you receive.  This is certainly
true of Pine 3.91 and later and, going off memory, earlier versions too.

Are you sure the header is spelled exactly like that (Reply-To) as against
something like "ReplyTo"?  If it is OK then perhaps you could send out
your question again with a copy of such a message attached in case anyone
gets a Flash of Inspiration?

As for X-Reply-To...  As I understand/remember things message headers fall
into two classes: official and unofficial.  All unofficial header names
should begin with "X-", wheras official header names shouldn't.  Reply-To
is most definitely an official header, and so should not be used as
"X-Reply-To" for fear that most mailers won't recognise it.  Perhaps a
quiet word with the person(s)  sending out messages with the header? 

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 20:48:35 -0400

On 21 Aug 1996, Craig R. Ruefenacht wrote:

> address to reply to when I reply to mail, [...]

    You can add the Reply-To: header yourself.  From the Pine main
menu, just go into Setup and Config.  Scroll down to customized-hdrs:
and add the header you want.  That should do it.

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From: [email-masked] (Craig R. Ruefenacht)
Date: 22 Aug 1996 04:08:56 GMT

Craig R. Ruefenacht ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hi,

: Does anyone know if Pine supports the X-Reply-To (or Reply-To)
: header?  I am trying to get Pine to use this header for the
: address to reply to when I reply to mail, but I haven't
: been able to get it to work.  Elm, zmail, rmail, and other
: mailers do this automatically, but Pine doesn't.

: Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated.

It worked when I just re-tested it.  Don't ask why it didn't this
afternoon.  I don't use pine on a regular basis, so that may
have been part of the problem.

I noticed this time that Pine explicitly asked me if I wanted
to use the Reply-To header for the return address.  I guess I
was not paying attnetion earlier today.

You can consider this posting to be taken care of.  Thanks to those
who posted ideas though.