Subject: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine

From: Stefan Kramer <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT)

The following is a plain-text version of the HTML document
currently found on the World Wide Web at the URL:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html
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Frequently Asked Questions about Pine

  What documentation is available for Pine?
  
   The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive
   online help. Additional documentation, including a User's Guide,
   Technical Notes, and information on where to obtain the software, can
   be accessed:
     * In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
       http://www.washington.edu/pine/
     * Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
       subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the
       documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form.
     * The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be
       read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's
       MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections
       and choose Add Value) as:
       *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[]
       
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  Who should I ask for help with Pine?
  
   If you need assistance with Pine, contact the technical support staff
   or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school,
   university, employer -- whichever organization provided you with the
   email account on which you are using Pine. Due to the large number of
   Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot
   provide individual support services to Pine users.
   
   University of Washington Pine users, please contact your departmental
   computer support staff; or send email to: [email-masked]
   
   You may also be able to find the answer to your question through the
   Pine Discussion Forum -- see http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
   
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  Why does command X not work?
  
   Some of the Pine commands you may read or hear about have to be
   explicitly enabled in the SETUP CONFIGURATION menu, which is accessed
   from Pine's MAIN MENU, to be functional. For example, to be able to
   use the "Bounce" command, the following feature has to be checked:
     [X]  enable-bounce-cmd

   and to be able to use the "Select"/"Apply" operations, you must first
   check:
     [X]  enable-aggregate-command-set

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  How can I filter messages into different incoming folders?
  
   Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of
   other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For
   details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the
   Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following
   locations:
   
   http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/
   faq.html
   http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html
   ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt
   ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq
   
   Once you have successfully set up your delivery filtering, you will
   have new mail arriving in several different folders, in addition to
   your INBOX. You can then access these folders just like any other mail
   folder. You can also define a collection of incoming message folders
   in Pine, through which you can then TAB to read new messages. For more
   information, see Pine's internal help on the enable-incoming-folders
   feature in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu.
   
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  How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization?
  
   From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Config. Move down to the
   customized-hdrs option and read the context-sensitive help screen.
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages?
  
   From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Signature. The text you
   enter in the SIGNATURE EDITOR (new in Pine 3.92) will be appended to
   all messages you compose.
   
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  How do I send a message to multiple recipients without showing all their
  names?
  
   In Pine's message composer, with the cursor in the message headers
   area, press Ctrl-R ("rich headers"). Then read the context-sensitive
   help screens for the Bcc: and Lcc: fields.
   
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  How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment to a message I send?
  
   Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email
   messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to "understand"
   Pine's attachments. If the recipient of your message with attachment
   does not have MIME-capable email software, they should be able to save
   the attachment to a file and then decode that. One freely-available
   program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie
   Mellon. It is available at:
   
   ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu//pub/mpack
   
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  Can Pine be used with a POP server?
  
   No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support
   POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail
   server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it
   is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either
   IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release.

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From: "Richard G. Roberto" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:53:10 -0400 (EDT)

> http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html

* * * snip * * *

>    IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release.

What?  I used to be able to put /pop3 after a host name
{host/pop3} and use pop3 to download mail (pine3.91 on
linux).  I haven't used this in a while, though.  Why has
this been removed?  It worked fine for me then.  Oh well.

Richard G. Roberto
[email-masked]
201-739-2886 - whippany, nj

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From: [email-masked] (Annelise Anderson)
Date: 21 Aug 1996 05:04:05 GMT

Richard G. Roberto ([email-masked]) wrote:
: On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote:

: > 
: > The following is a plain-text version of the HTML document
: > currently found on the World Wide Web at the URL:
: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html
: > --------------------------------------------------------
: > 
: > 
: > Frequently Asked Questions about Pine
: > 

: * * * snip * * *

: >                                       
: >   Can Pine be used with a POP server?
: >   
: >    No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support
: >    POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail
: >    server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it
: >    is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either
: >    IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release.
: >    

: What?  I used to be able to put /pop3 after a host name
: {host/pop3} and use pop3 to download mail (pine3.91 on
: linux).  I haven't used this in a while, though.  Why has
: this been removed?  It worked fine for me then.  Oh well.

: Richard G. Roberto
: [email-masked]
: 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj

I use popclient -3 to get mail from a popserver and put it in one
of pine's incoming folders in my home directory.  This is in 3.94.
It operates independently of pine.

			Annelise

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From: Jason Englander <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:38:19 -0500 (CDT)

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> this been removed?  It worked fine for me then.  Oh well.

It hasn't been removed.  I'm running Pine 3.95 under Linux and I've got a
folder in my incoming folders section exactly like you just mentioned.

  Jason

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From: Stefan Kramer <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:39:51 -0700 (PDT)

The previous answer to the FAQ "Can Pine be used with a POP server?" was
indeed deceiving. While Pine does not (yet) support the POP offline email
model, it is (still) possible to access, with some caveats, a POP3 server
with Pine (for Unix, not with PC-Pine). That FAQ has been revised
accordingly, as the currently last item at
  http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html 
and
  ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/FAQs.txt

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  Stefan Kramer                   [email-masked]
  University of Washington        Computing & Communications        
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On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Jason Englander wrote:

# On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote:
# 
# > >   Can Pine be used with a POP server?
# > >   
# > >    No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support
# > >    POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail
# > >    server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it
# > >    is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either
# > >    IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release.
# > >    
# > 
# > What?  I used to be able to put /pop3 after a host name
# > {host/pop3} and use pop3 to download mail (pine3.91 on
# > linux).  I haven't used this in a while, though.  Why has
# > this been removed?  It worked fine for me then.  Oh well.
# 
# It hasn't been removed.  I'm running Pine 3.95 under Linux and I've got a
# folder in my incoming folders section exactly like you just mentioned.
# 
#   Jason

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From: Fred Heitkamp <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:47:02 -0400

> this been removed?  It worked fine for me then.  Oh well.

I received a suggestion to try:
incoming-folders={pop3host.domain/pop3}MailBox_Name
and it didn't work.
First there is no incoming-folders option in the configuration that I saw.
Second, What do you do for a password, required for the pop mailbox?
Should pine prompt for a password?  I am assuming that pine 3.91 on
Linux really can do POP.

Fred Heitkamp