Subject: Selecting "NEW" newsgroups always selects all in Pine 3.95

From: Andrej Borsenkow <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:11:47 +0400 (MOW)

Hi!

The problem seems to appear in Pine 3.95 (probably, it is I first noted it
there ;)

If I try to select new newsgroups using ;SN, I always get *all* available
newsgroups selected, irrespectively of the status shown.

The TAB works corectly and jumps to the next article, marked as NEW.

Is it known problem?

greetings

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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:54:53 -0400 (EDT)

> newsgroups selected, irrespectively of the status shown.

Where are you trying to do this?  When I do to my newsgroup listing (L
from the Main Menu and then down to the newsgroups) and enter ";" I
get 
   [Command ";" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help]
Same for 's' and 'n'

I've got the enable-aggregate-commands set turned ON (and works inside
folders).  What's the option to turn this on?

Thanks
TjL

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From: Andrej Borsenkow <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:08:54 +0400 (MOW)

> > If I try to select new newsgroups using ;SN, I always get *all* available
                           ^^^^^^^^^^
                           I did actually mean *articles*; sorry

> folders).  What's the option to turn this on?

I am doing it when I am already in newsgroup. It looks, like you are
trying to do it when selecting newsgroup.

Oh, sorry, just noticed. Of course, it should be *articles*, not
*newsgroups*. I just used wrong word :< Thanks for pointing it out.

but the problem is still there.

greetings

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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:02:52 -0400 (EDT)

> newsgroups selected, irrespectively of the status shown.

Now that we know we are talking about "articles", and not
"newsgroups".....

I tried this with 3.95 and it worked just fine. 

2 questions:  

1) Do the articles have ANY mark next to them (important/answered/etc) 
when you try to select them based on being "NEW"?

2) what's your OS information & etc?

I'm using 3.95 on NeXTStep 3.2 (m68k)
 
TjL

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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:05:54 -0400 (EDT)

Sorry, sent that last one off before I finished saying:

"I'm running 3.95 on NeXTStep 3.2 m68k and Linux and it works fine
here"

TjL

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From: Andrej Borsenkow <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:36:58 +0400 (MOW)

> when you try to select them based on being "NEW"?

Yes, articles are marked N for "NEW" ;) Do you have
'news-approximates-news-status' set?

I done simple test (it assumes news-approximates-news-status is set):

remove (or better move) your .newsrc;
open some newsgroup; all articles should be shown as "NEW"; 
delete some article in the middle;
quit and restart pine;
enter the same newsgroup again; now the articles older than deleted one
   won't be  marked as "NEW"
make ;SN - it sets X ("SELECTED") mark on *all* articles, even the "OLD"
   ones.

> 2) what's your OS information & etc?

Well, I am using Pine 3.95 on SINIX-N and SINIX-L; it is SVR4 based
system; I compiled Pine using ./build sv4 without any changes (sorry; I
changed default folder format to tenex and rsh name - I wonder, where resh
comes from). On one system I used gcc 2.7.2, on other native compiler.
Both behave the same way.