Subject: hmm.. PLEASE HELP!! offline mail-writing..

From: pHOo <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:57:41 +0000

hi.. please help me w/ this:

let's say i'm writing some letters and use ^O so that they will be stored 
in the postponed-msgs folder file..  Then i want to send ALL messages in 
that folder! one way to do it is to go through every message in the 
postpones-msgs folder and press C, ^X on every one.. very time consuming..
so, please! isn't there anyway to send all msgs at one time? it doesnt 
have to be done in pine, any unix command combination would do.. HELP!

..pHOo of AiP, PGP-key_Available

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From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:17:55 -0400

> have to be done in pine, any unix command combination would do.. HELP!

    I am a bit puzzled.  If you are postponing messages for no other
reason than to try to be able to send them all at once, wouldn't it be
easier simply just to send each one with ^X as soon as it is ready
rather than save it with ^O and then horse around later trying to
cobble together something which may or may not work sending the whole
pile at once?  Do you have some special reason for delaying
transmission of messages and for sending multiple messages
simultaneously?  Perhaps a little more information might make it a
little easier for people to offer technical suggestions.

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From: Juha Suhonen <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:29:52 +0300 (EET DST)

On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote:

> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:17:55 -0400
> From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: hmm.. PLEASE HELP!!  offline mail-writing..
> 

Doesn't the _subject_ say it? OFFLINE mail writing? :)

(Ie SLIP link, not always up, user wants to read mails off-line..)

JuhaS

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From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:25:51 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Juha Suhonen wrote:

> > reason than to try to be able to send them all at once, [...]
> 

    However, you were asking about Pine in a Pine newsgroup.  To the
best of my knowledge, Pine does *NO* offline activity at all.  It is
strictly interactive.  When Pine is not running interactively, then
Pine is not running at all and can do nothing.  You cannot even run it
in a "batch" mode from the command line.  For good or for ill, that's
the way Pine was designed and built.  You seem to be wanting to do
something Pine was never designed for and therefore cannot do.  Sorry. 
Perhaps you could find some useful information on one of the other mail
newsgroups.  I doubt that you can do what you want to do with Pine. 
(Better informed opinion welcome.)

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From: Barry Landy <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:38:39 +0100

:>On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, pHOo wrote:
:>
:>> let's say i'm writing some letters and use ^O so that they will be stored 
:>> in the postponed-msgs folder file..  Then i want to send ALL messages in 
:>> that folder! one way to do it is to go through every message in the 
:>> postpones-msgs folder and press C, ^X on every one.. very time consuming..
:>> so, please! isn't there anyway to send all msgs at one time? it doesnt 
:>> have to be done in pine, any unix command combination would do.. HELP!
:>
:>    I am a bit puzzled.  If you are postponing messages for no other
:>reason than to try to be able to send them all at once, wouldn't it be
:>easier simply just to send each one with ^X as soon as it is ready
:>rather than save it with ^O and then horse around later trying to
:>cobble together something which may or may not work sending the whole
:>pile at once?  Do you have some special reason for delaying
:>transmission of messages and for sending multiple messages
:>simultaneously?  Perhaps a little more information might make it a
:>little easier for people to offer technical suggestions.

I do have a genuine reason for wanting to do this. Setting up accounts
for a practical session after (or during) an email course involves the
rather tedious sending of lots of mail so that they have something to
play with. I do have these all ready to go in a folder, copy them all
to postponed, and then send them off one at a time, and it would be nice
to do it in one operation. 

With current Pine releases it is actually possible to run disconnected
so long as you dont try to use the link. I have not tried, but imagine
it is possible to compose and postpone, and then send all the messages
once the link has been established. This would be an efficient way of
working (until genuine Pine disconnected operation becomes available).

Unfortunately ; A A C (in the postponed folder) is not in the allowed
set.

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From: [email-masked] (Rob Funk)
Date: 12 Jul 1996 14:37:56 GMT

In article <Pine.LNX.3.91.960711005249.286B-100000@localhost>,
>have to be done in pine, any unix command combination would do.. HELP!

I have dialup SLIP, and I just send all my messages (with pine, elm,
or anything else) offline by letting sendmail queue them up.  Then
when I go online I flush sendmail's queue.  I have sendmail send
everything directed outside my machine to a local SMTP server so that
it doesn't have to try to contact machines all over the world during
the short time that I'm online.

My biggest problem is that pine insists on fully qualifying my return
address, instead of letting sendmail do it.
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