Subject: Pine Discussion Archives

From: Myron Wayne Jones <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:12:18 -0500 (CDT)

I have been using the pine discussion archives at:

http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info

to research my interest in pine.  Does anyone know how I can do a seach 
at this site and collect all of the seach results into a single file for 
downloading.  I know that I can download an entire month of discussion 
archives from this site, however, there is a lot of stuff that I don't need.

Perhaps someone knows of a way that I can take an entire month and 
automatically cut out those things I do not wish to keep. Please help.

- Myron Jones

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From: Stefan Kramer <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:47:14 -0700

Myron,

After you have concluded your search of the subject or full-text index at
	http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
you could save the results page to a local HTML file.  Since the hyperlinks
therein will be relative (i.e., "assume" they are on the server
http://www.cac.washington.edu/), you should then load the HTML file into a
text editor that has that capability and search-and-replace all occurrences
of

	<a HREF="/pine/pine-info
with
	<a HREF="http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info

You then have your own customized message index that will point back to the
HTMLized messages you selected in your query, on our server.  (The URLs for
the individual messages are expected to remain stable, though we can't
guarantee that. ;-)  

If you an have IMAP-capable email client, you can also access the Pine-Info
archives in their original message (non-HTMLized) format; in Pine, by
defining a folder collection thus: 

	*{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[]

You would then have to search each month's message collection separately
(in Pine, with the SELECT ; function), but if you are only interested in a
time period of a few months, that would actually be easier and more direct
here than in the WWW-based archives' searchable index, where you'd have to
formulate a query like "Jun 96;bulk mail". 

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  Stefan Kramer                   [email-masked]
  University of Washington        Computing & Communications        
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On 26 Jul 1996, Myron Wayne Jones wrote:

# I have been using the pine discussion archives at:
# 
# http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info
# 
# to research my interest in pine.  Does anyone know how I can do a seach 
# at this site and collect all of the seach results into a single file for 
# downloading.  I know that I can download an entire month of discussion 
# archives from this site, however, there is a lot of stuff that I don't need.
# 
# Perhaps someone knows of a way that I can take an entire month and 
# automatically cut out those things I do not wish to keep. Please help.
# 
# 
# - Myron Jones
# 
# ----------------------------------------------------------------------
# E-mail:   [email-masked] 
# Homepage:  http://www.mtsu.edu/~chem000c
# Snail Mail:  MTSU Box D750, Murfreesboro, TN 37132 USA
# ----------------------------------------------------------------------
# 
# 
# 
# 
#

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:50:24 +0100 (BST)

> the individual messages are expected to remain stable, though we can't

A simpler solution is to edit the downloaded file and, in the
<HEAD>...</HEAD> section add the one line:

	<BASE HREF="URL">

where URL is the full URL of the document that you saved to an HTML file
(eg, http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/)

The magical thing about "BASE" is that the URL specified will be used as
the base against which relative links are resolved (instead of the URL of
the current document which, after saving to a local disk file, would be
inappropriate).

Perhaps the Keeper Of The Pine Archives could consider adding/generating a
suitable "BASE" line directly?  This would then allow people to save the
results page to local disk and use it without the need for any editing.

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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