Subject: Re: Why is my address ``To: ...'' with pine 3.93 ?

From: Beth Peterson <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:48:24 -0500

Peter,
This is how it shows up when I look at my listing of messages:

234 May 24 Peter Jaeckel      Why is my address ``To: ...'' with pine 3.93 ? 
             ^     ^
you can see your name and not the news group name.

On Fri, 24 May 1996, Peter Jaeckel wrote:

> 
> Hi.
> 
> I am usning pine3.93. Whenever I send anything to a nesgroup and later
> on check to look for replies, I notice that my message appears in the
> newsgroup with 
> To: <newsgroupname>
> in the field where my name should be.
> 
> I am sending from behind a firewall and I am using a Reply-to: field,
> too, in order to get replies to my other address that I can also
> access from home.
> 
> Perhaps someone knows anything about it ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter Jaeckel
> 
> P.S. the trailer below is automatically added by our site's proxy
> server and there is nothing I can do about it...
> 
> 
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> 
> 

Beth Peterson           
bethp@fnal    
Physics Department

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From: Virtual Joe <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:09:46 -0500

> in the field where my name should be.

It only looks that way to you because _you_ sent it. If you go to your
sentmail folder, you'll see that _all_ outgoing email from you looks that
way.  It looks completely normal to the rest of us.

Easy enough, huh?...laters...

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From: Robin Verduijn <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:55:00 +0200

> > > I am using pine3.93. Whenever I send anything to a newsgroup and later

I had just the same problem. Fact is, Pine defaults to showing a FROMORTO field
in your message index, instead of a FROM field. Every message you sent is thus
marked with the "To:" field instead of your own name.

You can change this by setting
   index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%)
in your Pine configuration.

Hope this helps

-Robin

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            One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."
                                                        -- apologies to tolkien

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From: Rick O'Sullivan <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 05:27:12 -0500

> Easy enough, huh?...laters...

     Thanks, I was just about to ask the same question.  So, why does
Pine act this way?  Is the intentional or just a weird behavior?
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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:11:56 +0100 (BST)

Yes, Pine's behaviour *is* intentional, to present you with the maximum
amount of information within the space available.

I believe the thought pattern goes domething like this:

*  When someone sends you a message it is most useful to see who it is
   _from_ in the Index.

*  For messages you _send_ there is little to be gained from putting the
   sender's (your own) e-mail address in the Index:

      -  The presence of your name in the Index list merely shows the
         message was sent by yourself.

      -  There is no indication as to whether the message was one you sent
         to yourself (eg, to remind you to do something the next day), or
         just CC'd to yourself?

*  Instead how about displaying who the message was sent _to_ in the
   Index?

      +  The presence of the "To:" prefix shows the message was sent by
         yourself.

      +  You also get to see who the message was sent _to_.

So you benefit by getting more information conveyed to you through the
Index listing.  (Just remember that if you see a "To:" prefix it means you
sent this message ... should be obvious, huh? :-)

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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