Subject: Remote mailbox problem with 3.91

From: [email-masked] (Harri Mdkinen)
Date: 16 Jun 1996 14:50:42 GMT

I have a problem with pine (Slackware Linux) using a remote mailbox.
The inbox-path in .pinerc is set to {194.157.2.114}INBOX. Pine tries
to connect ok, but returns this: 'Can't connect to my.server;143,
connection refused.' At no point does pine ask for my username and
password on the remote system.

What could be wrong? Is there a way to tell the username an passwd
to pine beforehand? What about that port 143, perhaps that's wrong?

My pine version is 3.91.

BTW: Netscape Mail uses the same mailbox ok.

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Harri Mäkinen

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:06:51 +0100 (BST)

Your current configuration for "inbox-path" tells Pine:

	1.  That the folder name is "INBOX".
	2.  It is to be found on host 194.157.2.114
	3.  (implicit) The IMAP protocol is to be used to access the
	    folder.

IMAP is the Internet Message Access Protocol (sic) that has been designed
to allow remote access to and manipulation of message folders (both mail
and Usenet News).

In order to work you need an IMAP client program (in this case Pine), and
an IMAP server (or imapd) running on the host computer.  The two then
communicate with each other via a link established, as standard, on port
143.

Your "Can't connect to my.server" message is Pine's way of saying that it
tried to connect to an IMAP server on port 143 of the specified host but
couldn't.  (It doesn't want a username or password yet; it MAY want these
only after it has connected and then tries to authenticate.)

This implies that the computer 194.157.2.114 isn't actually running the
IMAP server software (either because it has never been installed/set up,
ort because there is some configuration problem).

As always in these cases you will need to talk to the systems
administrator of that computer, rather than a bunch of people like us
around the world.  Ask them if the run an IMAP server.  If they say "Yes"
then check you have the machine and port number details correct.  If they
are then you should inform the administrator that there seems to be a
problem with the IMAP server's setup as it isn't working.

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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On 16 Jun 1996, Harri Mdkinen wrote:

> Harri Mdkinen

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From: [email-masked] (Mitch Chen)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:46:40 GMT

I am haveing the same problem too.  Can you please let me know how to fix 
it if you did find it out?  thank you.

Harri Mäkinen ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I have a problem with pine (Slackware Linux) using a remote mailbox.
: The inbox-path in .pinerc is set to {194.157.2.114}INBOX. Pine tries
: to connect ok, but returns this: 'Can't connect to my.server;143,
: connection refused.' At no point does pine ask for my username and
: password on the remote system.

: What could be wrong? Is there a way to tell the username an passwd
: to pine beforehand? What about that port 143, perhaps that's wrong?

: My pine version is 3.91.

: BTW: Netscape Mail uses the same mailbox ok.

: --
: Harri Mäkinen
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From: Mark Crispin <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:48:35 -0700

On 24 Jun 1996, Manuel Munier wrote:
> I have the same problem too. But I have more info. I can use
> a remote INBOX for all users, except root ! For the user root,
> I get the same error message 'Can't connect to my.server;143,
> connection refused.'

Are you SURE that is the error message that you get?  You should get an
error such as "Bad LOGIN user name or password".

In any case, root, and any other uid 0 user, can not use IMAP.  This is by
deliberate design.  We do not intend to support root access to IMAP.  You
should have root mail forwarded to a non-uid0 user instead. 

-- Mark --

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From: [email-masked] (Manuel Munier)
Date: 24 Jun 1996 07:21:32 GMT

> 	3.  (implicit) The IMAP protocol is to be used to access the
  (...)

I don't understand, because rsh (and all other remote command)
works fine for root.

I don't remember exactly the message in '/var/adm/messages' but
it looks like imap closes the connection during authentication.

If someone knows why ...

Manuel.
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