Subject: email spam

From: Clint Danbury <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:06:33 -0700

e-mail spam can ruin the usefulness of the net  for floks such as myself.
(and I suspect most humans on planet earth as well)

The spammers are now using fake addresses, so that sending them their own
message (copied 50+ times, of course:-)  returns with a message saying
that no such party exists.

Is there a newsgroup for this ?  Is there software to help ?

I think that email spam is something to cut now, before it really ruins
the net.   ("ruin", of course, in my  dictionary definition; you are
welcom to disagree about receiving 20 times more spam than requested
email)

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From: [email-masked] (Orjan Johansen)
Date: 18 Jun 1996 02:37:10 GMT

In article <Pine.GSO.3.93.960617095746.7045D-100000@shell>,
>that no such party exists.

Sometimes that means their account has been closed *grin*, but I guess
it's more often fake. Check the headers of the message you got for other
addresses it may actually have come from.

It is probably more effective to send 1 mail with copy to their postmaster
than 50 just to the spammer. Remember, there are probably thousands of
others doing the same.

>Is there a newsgroup for this ?  Is there software to help ?

For newsgroup spams, at least, there is news.admin.net-abuse.misc.
Emails are discussed there too sometimes.  I am sure there are other fora
for email spams as well - I seem to recall rumors about Web blacklists.

Greetings,
Ørjan.

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From: [email-masked] (Jie Yuan)
Date: 18 Jun 1996 17:02:17 GMT

>Is there a newsgroup for this ?  Is there software to help ?

I have seen some discussions in alt.security.pgp group.  There is no cure 
in the foreseeable future, I am afraid.  The only way for you to avoid
spamming is to hide your own identidy (email address, that is).  It is a
sad situation for those being spammed, not for those spamming others.

There are tools that help the spammers, and they are very handy.  There
are some tools that are useful, but to limited degree, for the spammed.
Mail filter programs can screen out emails from certain addresses and
delete them so that you don't have to bother reading them after you have
identified the address by the first spamming email.  Anonymous reflectors
can help you to hide your identity.  You probably cannot post to local 
newsgroups that the anonymous service does not cover.  Your favorite lists
may not appreciate anonymous users so that you may have to give up some of
your favorite subscriptions.  The inconvenience is not too bad considering
you will not be spammed any more.

Email address is just like your home address or phone number.  There are
always ways for spammers to abuse it.

Just my 2c.

Jie
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From: R R Neuswanger <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:15:37 -0400

On 18 Jun 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote:
		(snip)
> for email spams as well - I seem to recall rumors about Web blacklists.
	The blacklist of Internet advertisers, which explains
itself, is at
http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/BL/blacklist.html
	Enjoy!

                R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life
                 Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance
AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP)                 Banning guns to prevent 
Library of Congress                   crime is like burning
Washington, DC 20540-4120             your insurance policy to
[email-masked]  I speak for me. Only.   prevent a house fire.

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From: "Tracey L. Schulz " <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:42:12 -0500

Dear Folks:

	Help!  I'm trying to find a friend who used a certain terminal at 
a certain time on our net.  Is there a way to get a name through Pine?  
(No access codes or anything private, just a list of those who used pine 
that day.)  Any hints?

					Sincerely
					Tracey

P.S.:  Please feel free to personally reply, since I don't come here that 
	often.
					-T.L.S.

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From: Hynek Med <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:00:45 +0200

On 18 Jun 1996, Jie Yuan wrote:

> I have seen some discussions in alt.security.pgp group.  

Sorry to talk off-topic, but there are official newsgroups for discussing
spamming, both e-mail and USENET spams: news.admin.net-abuse.announce
(moderated?) and news.admin.net-abuse.misc. 

Hynek

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