Subject: problem replying to usenet message

From: [email-masked] (Katie Clark)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:04:46 GMT

Recently I tried to reply to a message in Usenet, but after going
through all the steps required by PINE to "reply", I got a message
which said, in effect, that my reply was longer than the original
message, and so my reply wouldn't be sent!  When I went back and
shortened the original message to which I was replying, then my reply
went through!  

Is there a way to override this feature?  I suppose it's designed to
conserve bandwidth...and I know we get tired of seening repeats of
mesages, but...!!  Is there a way to turn off the "show message which
is being replied to" in replys, in Usenet, but not in regular e-mail
messages??!!

Thanks!

Katie

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:13:17 +0100 (BST)

This is nothing to do with Pine, but the way your systems administrator
has configured your Usenet News server.

These servers can be set up to check the content of articles people post
to them and ensure that there is at least a certain percentage of new
material compared to quoted text.  (The idea is to try and encourage
people to edit down included text and supply new, useful material ...
instead of quote a multi-page posting only to add "I agree" at the end.)

If the news server receives such a posting it is refused and an error
message returned.  Pine is simply reporting this error message to you.

Solution: reduce the amount of quoted text, or write some more meaningful
information!

As for your other question, it is not possible to set up the "include
text" option to behave differently between Usenet and regular e-mail.
(Things get very hazy when, for instance, you save a Usenet article into a
folder -- remember these can contain ANY message be it Usenet or e-mail.
Once there should it be treated as a Usenet article or an e-mail?  This
has been discussed many times in the past (so please let's not go over it
all again!).)

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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