Subject: Does Pine support POP3 or not??

From: [email-masked] (John Davis)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:33:28 GMT

I seem to be getting conflicting signals as to whether Pine 3.93 supports
POP3 or not? I am running PC-Pine. I didn't think it did, but then I've seen
articles posted to this newsgroup that showed folks using a hostname of the
form {hostname/pop3}. I tried this and it didn't work. I'd love to use
PC-Pine as my main mail program but with IMAP it is totally worthless. I have
access to three different ISP's and none of them support IMAP. All support
POP3 though.

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John Davis [email-masked]/[email-masked]
Cary, North Carolina  http://www.webbuild.com/~jbdavis/
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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:14:34 -0700 (PDT)

Sorry, PC-Pine does not yet support POP.

(Unix Pine can access a POP server in quasi-online mode, but not in
offline mode, as POP was designed for.)

-teg

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:06:03 +0100 (BST)

> access to three different ISP's and none of them support IMAP. All support

I presume you don't *really* mean "but with IMAP it is totally worthless"
-- you surely can't say this without having tried and tested the
configuration.  (We use IMAP here and it works _very_ well.)

I think the weight should be on your following sentences instead.  :-)

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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From: Mark Crispin <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:58:57 -0700

On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, John Davis wrote:
> Oh no, not at all. I think IMAP is great. I just meant that it doesn't do me
> any good when my ISP won't install the server. I have been a long-time Unix
> Pine user, but my ISP is getting rid of shell accounts and won't be
> installing IMAP.

For what it's worth, this sounds like an excellent reason to fire your ISP
and find a new one.  There are so many responsive ISPs out there that
there is no reason to continue to give your money to an unresponsive one.

The usual excuse given by an ISP for having POP but not IMAP is that they
won't want to have disk space taken up by having mail kept on their
machine.  This is yet another reason to fire them; there's no excuse for
this attitude given today's disk prices.

-- Mark --

DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045  ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39"
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.

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From: Udi Motello <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:17:40 +0300

H,

	My users want the POP3.  Whan you work with pine the modem
	hold the line all the session - it's mony.  The other mailer
	works with POP3 load the inbox to local machine and hungup the
	phone-line.  After you finish compose,read,.. it redail automatic
	and sent the messages in one pass.

	With pine you do it manuel: open local folder-colection, select
	and save the inbox.....

B,
 Udi

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From: [email-masked] (Daniel P. Joy)
Date: 14 Jun 1996 18:15:16 GMT

John Davis ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Oh no, not at all. I think IMAP is great. I just meant that it doesn't do me
: any good when my ISP won't install the server. I have been a long-time Unix
: Pine user, but my ISP is getting rid of shell accounts and won't be
: installing IMAP. I'd love to continue to use PC-Pine, but without POP3
: capability I won't be able to do this. Of all the fancy GUI based email
: packages I've tried, I've yet to find one that has the power of Pine while
: continuing to be very easy to use.

I asked about IMAP before signing up with an ISP. The ISP I signed up 
with installed it the same day. I'd recommend you find a new ISP.

Dan
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Bill Curran)
Date: 19 Jun 1996 23:13:21 -0400

Pine/2 on OS/2 supports POP3 perfectly.

-- 
Bill Curran                                Sysprog - MVS OS/2 xNIX WINx DOS
email : [email-masked]          Rexx on every one of them! 	
http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~aa131   All Standard Disclaimers Apply

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From: [email-masked] (Harri Mdkinen)
Date: 18 Jun 1996 04:15:30 GMT

John Davis ([email-masked]):
: >I seem to be getting conflicting signals as to whether Pine 3.93 supports
: >POP3 or not? I am running PC-Pine. I didn't think it did, but then I've seen

I'm running Pine 3.94 on Linux. inbox-path {my.domain/pop3}INBOX works at
startup, but then Pine seems to hang up the connection. It doesn't get
new messages, even though I've set the interval of getting new messages
to everythgin from 15 secons to 500 seconds. No luck.

Otherwise the new features (eg. mouse control in X) are nice, even though
that on little thing makes the program completely useless ;-)

--
Harri Makinen

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From: ??The Riddler?? <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 16:15:55 -0700

Ever time I Try to COMPOSE MAIL I get the error:

"Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal".
Exiting pine."

If you have any answers PLEASE respond... to this or 
[email-masked]
Thank you