Subject: When pine 3.95 out?

From: [email-masked] (Adam Sulmicki)
Date: 21 Jun 1996 20:25:41 GMT

Has anyone clue when 3.95 will be out? The current one has an annoying bug in 
setting the "N" (new) mark for messages in in my inbox, it usually uses to
mark as New even those messages which I already have read, but did not deleted
yet (fyi: my inbox has aprox 1000 messages inside).

Adam
System Staff for Cfar, Umiacs, CS @ UMCP

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From: ADAM Sulmicki <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:19:42 -0400

->> Has anyone clue when 3.95 will be out? The current one has an annoying bug in 
->> setting the "N" (new) mark for messages in in my inbox, it usually uses to
->> mark as New even those messages which I already have read, but did not deleted
->> yet (fyi: my inbox has aprox 1000 messages inside).
->> 
->
->We are hoping to have Pine 3.95 ready RSN, but I don't recall seeing
->any reports of this problem before.  Could you elaborate on exactly
->what problem you are seeing? 

Thank you for your answer.

It is a bit hard to define. However I think I can divide it into two
subproblems:

1) pine sometimes forgets to remove the "N" mark _after_ I read the
message, and only pressing D and then U, removes the "N" mark. 

2) When I go thru my mails in my mailbox I sometimes find that some
messages marked as new I already have read, and they did not have the "N"
sometime before.
	reason for this problem might be because of 3 things:
	- I have added some "fix" to the code which add the "+" when
          I"m mentioned in cc, that is pine3.93/contrib/flag.cc
          (I think I added it in 3 places)
        - size of my mailbox, it can range to 2'000 messages, and I'm 
          getting on average 175 messages per day.
        - it had been exited inproperly few times (kill, power
          interruption, etc), but I don't think this one is case.

Adam Sulmicki
System staff for CfAR, UMIACS, CS

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:54:41 -0700

> yet (fyi: my inbox has aprox 1000 messages inside).

We are hoping to have Pine 3.95 ready RSN, but I don't recall seeing
any reports of this problem before.  Could you elaborate on exactly
what problem you are seeing? 

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University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841
4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA

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From: kremžská HOŘČICE <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:14:48 +0200

> 	reason for this problem might be because of 3 things:
[...]
>           interruption, etc), but I don't think this one is case.

    This can indeed be the case.  If you read a message, and Pine crashes
(or in my case, my IMAP connection goes down) before Pine has had the
chance to checkpoint the mail folder, none of the status changes since the
last checkpoint will be recorded.  This means recently-read messages do
not get marked as read, and will reappear as new at next folder access.

    I have had the experience of a very large number of messages in my
(Cyrus) IMAP folders, which had been marked as read (not new) for several
weeks, all become marked as new.  This has almost always been associated
with crashes of the server, when our machines forget what time it is, and
I was assuming that the access times of these files compared with the
system's idea of the present time is responsible for this (mostly because
I didn't want to look any deeper to try and find out what really happens
there).  I am assuming in this case that the problem I see is not a Pine
problem, but a Cyrus/machine fault.

    Hope this bit of information is useful...

Barry Bouwsma
<[email-masked]>