Subject: HELP! How do I define the DELETE and BACKSPACE keys??

From: [email-masked] (Tim Porter)
Date: 9 May 1996 16:08:18 +0100

I am using pine 3.91.

I've noticed that the BACKSPACE and DELETE keys both do the same thing 
(i.e. do a backspace). I would very much like to define DELETE to behave 
in the normal way (i.e. delete the character that the cursor is on), 
while leaving the BACKSPACE key as it is.

Can anyone tell me how to do this?

Thanks in advance,

  Tim Porter
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Tim Porter                                   [email-masked]
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From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 09:25:16 -0400

> Can anyone tell me how to do this?

    To help you most effectively, we need more information.  What
operating system are you using Pine under -- Un*x, DOS, VMS, whatever? 
What is your terminal setup?  Are you using a PC or Mac with
communications software to dial into and login into a service provider? 
If so, what terminal emulation are you using -- VT52, ANSI, VT100,
something else?  All these factors can make a difference.  Therefore,
unfortunately, there simply is NO blanket answer to your question.

    *IF* you are using a PC/Mac to dial into a Un*x account, you might
look at two things: 1) your stty settings, particularly for 'erase';
and 2) the keybindings of your comm software, i.e., the actual codes
your comm software sends out when you press certain keys (which may not
necessarily be the same as what is on the keycaps).

    Other than this, I may not necessarily be able to help you, but if
you provide additional information, perhaps someone else can.

Paul                             <[email-masked]>
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From: [email-masked] (Tim Porter)
Date: 13 May 1996 14:01:28 +0100

>unfortunately, there simply is NO blanket answer to your question.

Sorry, I really should have included that information in my original posting.

I'm using pine 3.91, on a Sun SPARC system running SunOS 4.1.3.

We use several types of terminal. But the keys behave in the same way on 
all of them. We use vt100 dumb terminals, PC's running Sun PC-NFS and 
using a vt100 emulation, and xterms under X-Windows. I have the TERM 
variable set to vt100 in all cases.

In my .login file I have :

stty erase '^h'
stty werase '^?'

- this seems to work correctly in the Unix shell.

I can't find anything about setting the delete key in the Pine 
documentation, except in the Pine Technical Notes there is the following 
reference:

 "^H is treated the same as the delete key, so the backspace or delete 
 keys always work regardless of any configuration. In an upcoming version, 
 there will be an option to have the delete key behave like ^D rather 
 than ^H".

I hope this gives you enough information.

Thanks in advance,

  Tim Porter.
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Tim Porter                                   [email-masked]
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From: Vladimír Solnický {Vladimir Solnicky} <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 10:57:07 +0200 (METDST)

>  there will be an option to have the delete key behave like ^D rather 

In versions 3.92 and 3.93 you can set the
`compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d' option to get required behavour.

V. S.

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From: Tim Porter <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 10:39:08 +0100 (BST)

> `compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d' option to get required behavour.

Vladimir,

Thanks for your mail.

Do you know where can I get Pine version 3.92 or 3.93 for SunOS?

Regards,

 Tim