Subject: Can you disable message highlighting?

From: [email-masked] (Adam Vardy)
Date: 6 May 1996 21:19:50 GMT

I am wondering if it is possible to stop Pine from highlighting
messages.  When you cursor around through the e-mail messages received,
the current message is highlighted - printed in reverse.  A few months
ago I was using a 1200 bps modem.  It took a fantastic amount of time
just to move the cursor from one line, to the one below.  (And I mean
fantastic in a Very disparaging sense.)  In order to cursor down
through a whole bunch of messages in the Folder Index, it takes a
considerable amount of time.  (Actually, it was sheer hell.)
 
     It's fairly easy to see why it takes so long just to move from one
line to the next.  The screen is 80 columns wide.  When a certain
message is selected, the ENTIRE line, all 80 columns of it is
highlighted.  This line contains the name of the sender, and the
Subject of the message.  What happens when you Cursor down is this.
The current line is printed normally, unhighlighted.  Then the cursor
moves to the line below, and this line is re-printed in reverse.  And
finally the cursor is moved to the bottom of the screen.
 
     Now think about this.  In order for all this to happen, at least
160 or more bytes must be transmitted over the phone lines.  Codes for
reversing and un-reversing printed text need to be sent.  80 characters
need to be printed unreversed, and 80 more need to be printed reversed
on the line below.  And all of that just to move from one line to the
next!  There is no need for any of this.  It really bogs down slow
modems.
 
     Only now that I have got a faster modem and the problem is not too
annoying now is it reasonable for me to find this news group and try to
ask this question.  But with the 1200 bps modem, such a task as finding
places to ask such questions was rather arduous.  :(
Isn't it ironic, don't ya think?
 
     It is possible with both Lynx, and with Tin to avoid having all
selections highlighted.  Normally with Tin, the current selection of
its listing of usenet postings is highlighted.  But there is an option
to prevent that, so that only an arrow to the left of a selection
indicates which posting is selected.
 
     Lynx normally highlights all links.  I am not sure if Lynx has an
option to stop that, but I have seen other Lynx programs which don't
highlight selected links.  The cursor just sits next to the selection.
Thus, it is very quick, even with the slowest of modems.
 
     My question is: Is there an option in Pine to disable the
highlighting?  I am sure that there won't be any 1200 bps modem users
reading this message (my message seems to have gotten a bit long).
Many people likely wouldn't be bothered by the situation I have
described, because they have fast modems.  But I would appreciate an
answer.

- A.V.

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From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:25:51 -0700 (PDT)

On 6 May 1996, Adam Vardy wrote:

> messages.

There is a feature called "assume-slow-link" in the Setup/Config screen.

Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

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From: Ed Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 09:54:43 +0800 (GMT)

>      I am wondering if it is possible to stop Pine from highlighting

	Hope you don't mind that I shortened your question?  :-)

	Answer, yes.

	In the setup/config simply enable:

	[ ]  assume-slow-link

	Regards,

		Ed

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                                        Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
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From: Mark Wilcutts <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:26:49 -0700

Yes indeed. In the main menu go to Setup/Config, then scroll down to the 
"assume slow link" checkbox and check it.  Pine will use an arrow at the 
left to indicate the current message instead of reverse video.

As far as finding answers to some frequently asked questions over a slow 
modem, you could go to the Pine FAQ or Secrets of Pine documents at U-dub by
going to the Setup/Updates , and searching these documents using 
the Where feature. (although the answer to this particular 
question is not on the FAQ ;^)

--
Mark Wilcutts
Mechanical Engineering Department	University of California

> considerable amount of time.  (Actually, it was sheer hell.)

... blah blah

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From: Tony Calguire <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 23:28:25 -0500

> described, because they have fast modems.  But I would appreciate an

Well, I'm using a 2400 bps modem to send this reply... I don't know about 
TIN, and I'd say with Lynx, you're out of luck.

But in Pine, go to your main screen, choose "S"etup, then "C"onfig.  Go 
down through your list of configuration options and find this one:

            Set        Feature Name
            ---   ----------------------
            [X]  assume-slow-link

Check this box, and the highlight will be replaced with a little arrow 
---> next to the message.

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From: [email-masked] (Jian-Ying Chen)
Date: 13 May 1996 03:47:40 GMT

Adam Vardy ([email-masked]) wrote:

:      I am wondering if it is possible to stop Pine from highlighting
: messages.  When you cursor around through the e-mail messages received,
: the current message is highlighted - printed in reverse.  A few months
: ago I was using a 1200 bps modem.  It took a fantastic amount of time
: just to move the cursor from one line, to the one below.  (And I mean
: fantastic in a Very disparaging sense.)  In order to cursor down
: through a whole bunch of messages in the Folder Index, it takes a
: considerable amount of time.  (Actually, it was sheer hell.)
:  
:      It's fairly easy to see why it takes so long just to move from one
: line to the next.  The screen is 80 columns wide.  When a certain
: message is selected, the ENTIRE line, all 80 columns of it is
: highlighted.  This line contains the name of the sender, and the
: Subject of the message.  What happens when you Cursor down is this.
: The current line is printed normally, unhighlighted.  Then the cursor
: moves to the line below, and this line is re-printed in reverse.  And
: finally the cursor is moved to the bottom of the screen.
:  
:      Now think about this.  In order for all this to happen, at least
: 160 or more bytes must be transmitted over the phone lines.  Codes for
: reversing and un-reversing printed text need to be sent.  80 characters
: need to be printed unreversed, and 80 more need to be printed reversed
: on the line below.  And all of that just to move from one line to the
: next!  There is no need for any of this.  It really bogs down slow
: modems.
:  
:      Only now that I have got a faster modem and the problem is not too
: annoying now is it reasonable for me to find this news group and try to
: ask this question.  But with the 1200 bps modem, such a task as finding
: places to ask such questions was rather arduous.  :(
: Isn't it ironic, don't ya think?
:  
:      It is possible with both Lynx, and with Tin to avoid having all
: selections highlighted.  Normally with Tin, the current selection of
: its listing of usenet postings is highlighted.  But there is an option
: to prevent that, so that only an arrow to the left of a selection
: indicates which posting is selected.
:  
:      Lynx normally highlights all links.  I am not sure if Lynx has an
: option to stop that, but I have seen other Lynx programs which don't
: highlight selected links.  The cursor just sits next to the selection.
: Thus, it is very quick, even with the slowest of modems.
:  
:      My question is: Is there an option in Pine to disable the
: highlighting?  I am sure that there won't be any 1200 bps modem users
: reading this message (my message seems to have gotten a bit long).
: Many people likely wouldn't be bothered by the situation I have
: described, because they have fast modems.  But I would appreciate an
: answer.
:  
:  
: - A.V.

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   Jian-Ying Chen              [email-masked]
      University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston
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