Subject: Re: Scrolling with up/down arrows

From: [email-masked] (Jamie Royer)
Date: 15 Apr 96 17:56:49 PDT

[email-masked] (Daniel Barton) writes:
>With pine 3.91, when I scrolled down with the arrow keys and reached
>the last item in the inbox, pine would do a page down.  With pine 3.93,
>arrowing down only goes down one line at a time and never pages down.
>Is this behavior controllable?

This is a feature.  If you want to scroll a page at a time, use the
space bar.

I like the new behaviour.  It makes more sense.

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From: [email-masked] (Daniel Barton)
Date: 16 Apr 1996 14:22:38 GMT

>I like the new behaviour.  It makes more sense.

I didn't say get rid of the new behavior, since I'm sure many people like
it.  However, I'd like to know if there's a way to configure pine to use
the old behavior, or perhaps another scrolling behavior, so that I can
see more than one line at a time when I scroll up/down.

Daniel

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From: [email-masked] (Daniel Barton)
Date: 15 Apr 1996 19:26:27 GMT

Regards, Daniel

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:45:15 +0100 (BST)

After an initial surpise I've grown to like the single line scolling
obtained with the Arrow Keys.  (You can still scroll pagewise using the
Space and "-" keys.)

You can't configure the action of the Arrow Keys, however....

I noticed a little extra feature had sneaked into Pine 3.93 in the Setup
Configuration screen (also settable in the systemwide configuration file).
This is:

	scroll-margin

This controls where the arrow keys start the single line scrolling action
on your screen.

The default value is 0, meaning the highlighted line has to be driven to
the very top (bottom) line before the next arrow key press causes a
scroll.

I have changed this setting to 1, so that scolling occurs when you try to
go up (down) on the top (bottom) line less 1.

So basically the value is the number of "extra" lines shown between the
highlighted line and the end of the screen.  This is very useful for
getting context within a list.  (Indeed, people with larger screens may
prefer larger values such as 2.)

Admittedly it doesn't help with the _amount_ scrolled by each arrow key
press, but it does make life a little easier (IMHO).

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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From: [email-masked] (Daniel Barton)
Date: 17 Apr 1996 17:17:11 GMT

>This controls where the arrow keys start the single line scrolling action

I too found this feature, and have to say I like it.  However, I do want to
report a bug in it:

I have my scroll-margin set to 5.  If I am within 5 lines of the top or bottom of
the index and scroll up/down, pine reverts to the behavior of "scroll-margin=0".

For example, I have 28 items in a folder when I enter it.  My screen size is such
that 27 items fit on the screen.  Pine enters the folder with only item 28 on the
top line of the screen.  Scrolling up does not automatically move the text to 
display items 22-27, and then scroll one at a time.

What I'd like to see is pine automatically move the cursor (and list) up/down 5
items and start scrolling from there.

Comments?

Daniel