Subject: return receipts in Pine - please use DSN

From: Achim Dreyer <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:20:40 +0200

Mark M. ([email-masked]) wrote:
: [email-masked] wrote:
: :
: : With 'mail' one could add a statement 'set receipt' in the .mailrc file to get
: : confirmation of receipts from remote mailer servers. How is this done in the
: : pine client? Can't find anything in the Pine documentation re this. thanks,cw

: Add "Return-Recipt-To: [email-masked]" to the list of "customized
: headers."  This is in config under the option "customized-hdrs."

: - -- Mark

This method only works with with sendmail versions prior to 8.7.3 and should not be
further encouraged as the successor DSN is already an rfc draft and is fully supported
by all newer versions of sendmail (>= 8.7.3).
I suggest that the next version of pine will support this feature...

Well here's a posting from comp.mail.sendmail :

 From: Sean Vickery <[email-masked]>
 Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
 Subject: Re: DSN question
 Date: 19 Jan 1996 07:27:51 GMT
 Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
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 On Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:49:49 GMT, Miroslav Ruda <[email-masked]>
 wrote in comp.mail.sendmail:
 > Hi All,
 >
 >  I have questions about DSN (Delivery Status Notification).
 >
 >  Do you know any MUA, which support it? If an answer is no, could'n we return
 >  support of Return-Receipt-To to sendmail 8.7.x ?
 >
 >  And, can it be supported by MUAs, if it's extension of ESMTP and MUA doesn't
 >  connect to sendmail's port but call sendmail as program (most of MUAs,as I
 >  know)?

 DSNs can be supported easily by MUAs.  You invoke sendmail with the
 `-bs' option obtaining a sendmail which speaks ESMTP on stdin/stdout.
 Heres an example of me sending some mail to myself,
 <[email-masked]>, requesting a DSN:

     $ /usr/lib/sendmail -bs
     220 anubis.itc.gu.edu.au ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.3/8.7.3; Fri, 19 Jan 1996
 17:06:15 +1000 (EST)
     ehlo localhost.itc.gu.edu.au
     250-anubis.itc.gu.edu.au Hello seanv@localhost, pleased to meet you
     250-EXPN
     250-8BITMIME
     250-SIZE
     250-DSN
     250-VERB
     250-ONEX
     250 HELP
     mail from:<[email-masked]>
     250 <[email-masked]>... Sender ok
     rcpt to:<[email-masked]> notify=success,failure
     250 Recipient ok
     data
     354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
     Subject: just testing

     Doesn't everyone send their mail this way?  (:
     .
     250 RAA00572 Message accepted for delivery
     quit
     221 anubis.itc.gu.edu.au closing connection
     $

 Sendmail has had the `-bs' option for a long time.  This method of
 invoking sendmail has the advantage of enabling the MUA to determine
 which addresses failed in a multi-recipient message.  It has the
 disadvantage of being requiring an implementation of the client-side
 of ESMTP in the MUA.

 >                                      Mirek Ruda ([email-masked])

 I am firmly against reintroducing support for `Return-Receipt-To:' into
 sendmail.  I am in favour of MUA developers including support for
 DSNs into their products.

 Sean.
 --
 Sean Vickery <[email-masked]>   Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410
 Systems Programmer   Information Services   Griffith University

Ciao,
	Achim	([email-masked])