Subject: Re: Pine --> elm conversion?

From: Nancy McGough <[email-masked]>
Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:30:26 -0800

[email-masked] (Mark Ferguson) writes:
>I am switching from pine to elm and need to convert my addressbook.

I'm curious why you are switching.  What elm features
convinced you to switch?

Thanks,
Nancy

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Ferguson)
Date: 14 Mar 1996 04:29:22 GMT

In article <ii.826766843@shellx>,
>I'm curious why you are switching.  What elm features

Well, I run linux on my box at home, and the startup time for pine
was beginning to annoy me.  elm starts faster, and the executable
is less than 40% of the size of pine (naturally, elm doesn't include
an editor).  Choosing vi as my default editor, (actually elvis), the
executable is still less than 50% as large and *much* faster. I'm
actually tempted to switch my editor to pico to ease my
transition.

I'll admit that pine is easier to use for the new user, but elm 
seems to have all the features that I used in pine, and I'm not 
really a new user anymore.

So the only feature that convinced me to switch was speed. Both
utilities are easy to use, have aliasing, and allow attachments 
as well as folder handling.

Now that I'm aware of filtering, this may be a feature I use that 
is not an option (that I'm aware of) that pine has.

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Mark Ferguson <[email-masked]>

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From: Sven Guckes <[email-masked]>
Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:06:51 GMT

[email-masked] (Mark Ferguson) writes:
>naturally, elm doesn't include an editor.

*ehem*  ELM does have an editor - "builtin".

>Choosing vi as my default editor, (actually elvis), the executable is still
>less than 50% as large and *much* faster. I'm actually tempted to switch my
>editor to pico to ease my transition.

pico?  ugh.   Sure, it 's simple to use, but too simple to be of much use.

If you already use vi - why not try vim?
It has a help command (:help), it allows you to split the window (:split) it
lets you undo everything unto the first change (and redo if you have gone to
far back), you can select text by highlighting it and it can reformat text for
you (just press 'Q' after selecting the text).  And it has lots more!  :-)

Read about vim on page
	http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/

>Now that I'm aware of filtering, this may be a feature I use that is not an
>option (that I'm aware of) that pine has.

Well, filters are independent of the mailers you use.
You can actually use ELM's filter and yet use Pine.

Although not as simple I can recommend "procmail" as a filter
which lets you do all the stuff that is too complicated for "filter".

Sven

Cc: [email-masked] (Mark Ferguson)

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