Subject: PGP interface for Pine 3.92?

From: [email-masked] (Janne Snabb)
Date: 21 Mar 96 18:37:38 GMT

If I understand correctly, the new version of pine (3.92) has all
the necessary hooks to make a smooth PGP interface. Has anyone done
it already or planning to do it soon?

(I'm trying to avoid re-inventing the wheel. :-)

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Janne Snabb
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From: Barry Cornelius <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:52:58 +0000 (GMT)

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

> it already or planning to do it soon?

In order to add a digital signature to my outgoing messages, I have set
sending-filters to be:
   /usr/local/bin/pgp -fats

I have also added:
   compose-send-offers-first-filter
to the feature-list variable: this bit is optional.

In order to run pgp on messages that I view (i.e., other people's
messages), I have set display-filters variable to be:
   _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp

Although I am happy with the outgoing bit, I would like more control over
the display-filters: (a) it's difficult to see what pgp is telling me ---
it leaves the screen too quickly, (b) it would be nice to be able to
toggle display-filtering on and off.  Having said that, these hooks in
Pine 3.92 that enable me to do digital signatures a lot easier are great.

How are other people enabling Pine 3.92 for PGP?

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From: [email-masked] (Edwin Kremer)
Date: 22 Mar 1996 13:02:13 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Barry Cornelius) writes:

   | Although I am happy with the outgoing bit, I would like more control over
   | the display-filters: (a) it's difficult to see what pgp is telling me ---

Indeed. It's redraws the screen before you can even check if it got a good
signature or not. However, if you exit your (shell/perl) script that does
the display filter with a non-zero value, it will trigger a harmless display
filter error in Pine, that has a nice side effect of not clearing the screen
until you hit <Return> 

Other than that, I've just started with 3.92 (and only installed on one of
our many architectures). Compliment to the Pine developers! I'm still not
completely sure what exactly changed since 3.91, but I like it. Good job!

		best regards,
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From: [email-masked] (Knut Landmark)
Date: 22 Mar 1996 15:54:50 GMT

Barry Cornelius ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In order to add a digital signature to my outgoing messages, I have set
: sending-filters to be:
:    /usr/local/bin/pgp -fats
:
: ...
: 
: How are other people enabling Pine 3.92 for PGP?

After adding two filters like the above one I noticed that I could not
see which one I was using because of the missing parameters. So I wrote 
two shell scripts that just call pgp with -fast or -feast. Now I can see
the names of the scripts.

I think it would be better to have entries like this:

"PGP encrypt" /usr/local/bin/pgp -feast
"PGP sign" /usr/local/bin/pgp -fast

Pine could show only the quoted string. This would make it very easy to
distinguish the different filters.

Comments?

Knut

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From: [email-masked] (Peter J. Weyers)
Date: 23 Mar 1996 17:13:27 GMT

: I think it would be better to have entries like this:

: "PGP encrypt" /usr/local/bin/pgp -feast
: "PGP sign" /usr/local/bin/pgp -fast

: Pine could show only the quoted string. This would make it very easy to
: distinguish the different filters.

: Comments?

I totaly agree. I think, writing scripts to distingish the filter-action 
is a workaround, not a solution.

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From: [email-masked] (Peter J. Weyers)
Date: 29 Mar 1996 18:30:12 GMT

Paul Seelig ([email-masked]) wrote:
: too! So you have to include the following entries with desired parameters:

:  	/usr/local/bin/pgp -fast _RECIPIENTS_
:  	/usr/local/bin/pgpencrypt -feast _RECIPIENTS_

: This way there is no need for quoted strings!

But you depend on your sysop. Well, you could make ~/bin/pgpencrypt a 
link, but both are dirty solutions to my feeling. 

Peter

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From: [email-masked] (Paul Seelig)
Date: 26 Mar 1996 04:37:56 GMT

>the names of the scripts.
This would have been very much easier by making a symlink called 'pgpencrypt' 
to 'pgp' in /usr/local/bin. This way you can see the difference pretty easy 
too! So you have to include the following entries with desired parameters:

 	/usr/local/bin/pgp -fast _RECIPIENTS_
 	/usr/local/bin/pgpencrypt -feast _RECIPIENTS_

>distinguish the different filters.
This way there is no need for quoted strings!
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