Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order

From: Rasheed Baqai <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:38:49 -0800

On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote:

> I would like to change the order in which the newsgroups appear when I 
> first open my newsgroup folder.
> 
> How do I do this?

Press $

and then choose an order from the listed choices.
This is done within each news group.

You can also go into setup and change sort-order

S from main meny and then it is on one of the selection pages.

Rasheed
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From: Tony Calguire <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:11:04 -0600

On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote:

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>     In Unix Pine, anyway, you can manually edit your .newsrc file (be
> careful!) in your home directory and put the active newsgroups in any
> order you want.  I do this, and it works just fine.  For instance, if I
> add a new group, it usually goes to the bottom of the heap, but if I
> want it somewhere else, I just rearrange .newsrc.  (As I say, be very
> careful when editing this file -- it is a critical one.)

Thanks for the info.  Unfortunately, my system gurus won't let me touch 
my .newsrc file.

> 
> | I'd also like to know if it's possible to change the name of a newsgroup 
> | as it appears on my folder list.
> 
>     Uhh, why would you want to?  So far as I know, the name of a
> newsgroup in the folder list *is* the name of the newsgroup and has to
> be, or else the reader can't find the group.
> 

I just thought it would be nice if I could have an alias name for a 
newsgroup that would appear on the screen.  If I have someone sitting 
next to me while I'm using Pine, I'd rather they not find out that I 
subscribe to alt.fetish.elbows or alt.naughty.stuff.

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From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:01:20 -0500

On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Tony Calguire wrote:

| On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote:
| 
| > On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote:
| > > I would like to change the order in which the newsgroups appear when I 
| > > first open my newsgroup folder.
| > > How do I do this?
| > Press $
| No, that's how you change the order of MESSAGES within newsgroups, not 
| the order of the newsgroups on the folder list screen.  As far as I know, 
| you can't change the order in which the newsgroups are presented in the 
| folder list.  Does anyone else know if this can be done?

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From: Tony Calguire <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:43:55 -0600

> > first open my newsgroup folder.

No, that's how you change the order of MESSAGES within newsgroups, not 
the order of the newsgroups on the folder list screen.  As far as I know, 
you can't change the order in which the newsgroups are presented in the 
folder list.  Does anyone else know if this can be done?

I'd also like to know if it's possible to change the name of a newsgroup 
as it appears on my folder list.

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From: [email-masked] (Jon Bell)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:48:48 GMT

>Thanks for the info.  Unfortunately, my system gurus won't let me touch 

What do you mean, they won't let you touch your .newsrc file???  You have 
to have both read and write access to it so that pine can update it to 
keep track of which articles you've read.  In principle, you should be 
able to edit your .newsrc file just like any other text file.

However, it is *not* a good idea to use pico to do this, because 
.newsrc files tend to have long lines which must be kept intact (even if 
you do move them around), and pico likes to break long lines into shorter 
ones.  So, unless you're familiar with vi or some other editor that 
doesn't mess with long lines, you'd best leave your .newsrc alone.

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Dept. of Physics and Computer Science        Clinton, South Carolina USA

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From: [email-masked] (DearOldDad)
Date: 8 Mar 1996 05:03:05 GMT

Paul O Bartlett ([email-masked]) wrote:
: On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Tony Calguire wrote:
: | On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote:
: | > On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote:
: | > > I would like to change the order in which the newsgroups appear 
: | > > when I first open my newsgroup folder.
: | > > How do I do this?
: | > Press $
: | No, that's how you change the order of MESSAGES within newsgroups, not 
: | the order of the newsgroups on the folder list screen.  As far as I know, 
: | you can't change the order in which the newsgroups are presented in the 
: | folder list.  Does anyone else know if this can be done?
:     In Unix Pine, anyway, you can manually edit your .newsrc file (be
: careful!) in your home directory and put the active newsgroups in any
: order you want.  I do this, and it works just fine.  For instance, if I
: add a new group, it usually goes to the bottom of the heap, but if I
: want it somewhere else, I just rearrange .newsrc.  (As I say, be very
: careful when editing this file -- it is a critical one.)

Yup, you can rearrange your .newsrc file with a text editor as Paul sez, 
but also as he sez, be careful.  A tip which I hope may be helpful ... I 
usually prefer to arrange them in alphabetical (actually alphanumeric) 
order, and there's a simple unix command to do this.  As Paul sez, new 
groups go to the bottom of the heap.  To put it all in alpha... order, 
type at a unix prompt:  sort -o .newsrc .newsrc

The -o is an 'ordered sort' in unix.  Now again, be careful, and as 
George Bush said, "read my lips" ... From a unix prompt you type:

s o r t space minus o space dot n e w s r c space dot n e w s r c enter

If you want something other than alphabetic order, you can use an editor 
such as pico or vi.   Hope this helps.  BYE.

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