Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order

From: [email-masked] (DearOldDad)
Date: 9 Mar 1996 22:51:39 GMT

Tony Calguire ([email-masked]) wrote:

: On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Jon Bell wrote:
: > What do you mean, they won't let you touch your .newsrc file???  You have 
: > to have both read and write access to it so that pine can update it to 
: > keep track of which articles you've read.  In principle, you should be 
: > able to edit your .newsrc file just like any other text file.

: My system, the Twin Cities Freenet, places heavy restrictions on its 
: users.  Just about everything in the first section of the Pine 
: configuration is fixed by the system administrators and can not be 
: changed.  We use Pine for e-mail and news, and Lynx for web browsing.  
: There is no shell access, and file and directory editing are handled 
: through Lynx, using Pico.  Lynx has been configured to deny access to all 
: "dot" files.  Pine can access its configuration files, but I can't see 
: them, access them, or edit them.
:   /_____  _____/  Tony Calguire

Hhmmmm ... I doubt if lynx (or pico) has benn configured to deny access to
dot files.  Try this:  From lynx, go to pico, then ^R (control + r) to
read in a file, then what yer probably doing is going ^T to get to a file
list and you can't see the .files ??  Well yer not supposed to, that's to
prevent an uniformed user from accidenatally deleting or editing a
.dotfile.  So instead of typing ^R then ^T, type ^R then .newsrc or
whatever .filename you want to (^R)eadIn.  Only a thought ... hope this
helps.  BYE. 

John (aka DearOldDad)

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From: Tony Calguire <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:08:27 -0600

> whatever .filename you want to (^R)eadIn.  Only a thought ... hope this

Well, I tried it, but these Freenet guys are awfully good.  I got a "Read 
permission denied .newsrc" message when I tried to read in the file.  
Even if I had been able to do it, I wouldn't have been able to save it.  
Our Pico is tied in with the Lynx directory editing function, so that 
Pico can only be started after giving a filename to Lynx.  If I wanted to 
create a new file and give it a name starting with a dot, Lynx would say 
"Illegal filename request ignored".  If I wanted to edit a file, I have 
to choose that file from a menu in Lynx, and those menus don't show dot 
files.

Thanks for the advice, anyway.

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From: [email-masked] (Barry Bouwsma)
Date: 16 Mar 1996 02:47:14 GMT

>Even if I had been able to do it, I wouldn't have been able to save it.  

   This is no longer Pine-related, but FreeNet .resource files are stored in
a separate directory from your work directory where you see all your files.
So, if this would work, you would probably need to read ../.newsrc or ~/.newsrc
or comparable.  But I suspect this has been disabled.

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