Subject: Re: Uploading Text Files

From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 18:46:16 -0500

On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote:

: [...]
: How can I upload a text file from my computer into Pine?  More 
: specifically, how can I upload a file into a message I want to send?

: I've tried, while in composing mode, to upload using my communications 

    Normally, you do not upload while you are composing in Pine.  
Uploading is a separate operation distinct from Pine.  You did not say 
so, but apparently you are using some variant of Unix.  In that case, you 
start the upload process from a shell prompt, not from within Pine.  
Exactly what you do will depend on what softare is available on your 
system.

    For example, in my case I enter rz -a or rz -b depending on whether I
am uploading an ASCII or binary file.  (Actually I use a tiny shell script
in order to get the version of rz on my system which supports Zmodem). 
Then I start ProComm Plus' upload with the keypad PgUp key.  Select the
protocol (Xmodem or whatever) and supply the path and filename on your PC
when prompted.  Things should take off, and you should get the file
uploaded into your Unix current directory.  THEN you start composing in
Pine and include the file with Ctrl-R. 

: software (which is PROCOMM-PLUS), using XMODEM, YMODEM and ASCII options. 
: None have worked.  (My software doesn't have ZMODEM, so please don't tell 
: me that's what I need.)

    ProComm Plus (at least version 2) supports Zmodem, which is better 
than the other protocols in some ways.  However, the software on your 
Unix host also has to support it.  As I say, my host has two versions of 
rz, only one of which supports Zmodem.

: I realize this may not be a PINE question but rather a UNIX question, 
[...]

    Yes, it is a Unix question, not a Pine question as such.

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan and DearOldDad)
Date: 17 Jan 1996 15:17:26 GMT

Seth Rogovoy (rogovoy@loomis) wrote:
: I'm brand new to PINE. I've found it incredibly user-friendly, but I have 
: run into my first brick wall -- can someone PLEASE help me?
: How can I upload a text file from my computer into Pine?  More 
: specifically, how can I upload a file into a message I want to send?

You don't upload directly into pine.  First upload the text file and give 
it a filename (e.g. upload1).  There will now be a file 'upload1' in your 
home directory on your unix server.  Then when in pine compose (or reply) 
mode, with the cursor at the point where you want to insert the file, 
press ^R (control + r) then type the filename (upload1) press enter and 
it should appear.

See above, you have to be out of pine to do the upload.  You may be 
able to temporarily suspend pine with ^Z if you have that option enabled.

: I realize this may not be a PINE question but rather a UNIX question, but 
: I don't really know what I'm talking about here, as you can probably 
: tell. Please help or point me the way towards help.  Thanks a lot.

PS upload it as a binary file ... yes I know it's text, but do it.

BYE   Hope this helps.
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From: tom- <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 00:19:30 -0500

On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote:

> I'm brand new to PINE. I've found it incredibly user-friendly, but I have 
> run into my first brick wall -- can someone PLEASE help me?
> 
> How can I upload a text file from my computer into Pine?  More 
> specifically, how can I upload a file into a message I want to send?
> 
> I've tried, while in composing mode, to upload using my communications 
> software (which is PROCOMM-PLUS), using XMODEM, YMODEM and ASCII options. 
> None have worked.  (My software doesn't have ZMODEM, so please don't tell 
> me that's what I need.)
> 
> I realize this may not be a PINE question but rather a UNIX question, but 
> I don't really know what I'm talking about here, as you can probably 
> tell. Please help or point me the way towards help.  Thanks a lot.
> 
> 

Seth,

There is old software which came with some Hayes 2400bps modems,
a couple of years ago, which seems to do what you want done.

Because "pine" is often unstable at my ISP, I compose offline,
*including* the email address, and subject, with the appropriate
blank lines, and the entire body of the letter.  After the text
file is complete, I go online and get into pine, and use the
compose command.  Then with the compose screen "blank", I call
the modem software, "EZMODEM" with <F2>.  I select "Autotype"
from the "EZMODEM" menu, while I am in "compose" in pine.
Then I select the file I want to email, and hit <enter>.  "EZMODEM"
fills in the "compose" screen in pine, automatically, while
I watch....  takes a minute, or so.  When it's typed, I
hit ^X and <enter>, and that's that!

BTW, I used Xmodem for that operation....

I wish I could find similar software for a 28.8 USR Sportster modem
which could do just that.  Hm...?  I wonder if "EZMODEM" has been
updated for 28.8 modems?   Does anyone know?

Hope this helps...

Tom