Subject: Incorrect Messages and Time Consuming with Empty News Folders

From: Simon <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 12:25:32 +0000

The one things that REALLY bugs me about Pine is this: When you're tab'ing
through news folders and pass a folder where all the articles have expired
(i.e. there are no articles for that news group on the news server), Pine
insists on telling me "No state for newsgroup found, reading as new" and
beeping, and then telling me "Newsgroup is empty" and beeping.

The latter of these is understandable, but the former should only be shown
when the news group is not listed in .newsrc, no? But apart from it being
incorrect (I think), it's SLOW! Instead of just going on to the next folder,
it pauses for a few seconds on each message, making passing through a number
of these empty folders quite time consuming.

Is this going to be changed (fixed?) in version 3.92?

Apart from that, however, I love it. :)

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From: Barry Landy <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:13:01 +0000

I dont see this. With our setup, it simply skips groups with no new news 
until it finds one with something to display. No beeps.

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From: Simon <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 15:13:51 +0000

But how about when the news spool is empty; i.e., if you go to that news
group, and then hit & for unexclude, Pine will tell you "No messages to
unexclude"? Is this what you meant? It's different from when there are simply
no *unread* messages in that news group.

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From: Barry Landy <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:36:35 +0000

> no *unread* messages in that news group.

I am not sure which way round you are asking this! I see no problems with 
newsgroups where there are messages but I have previously seen them all. 
It is not so easy to experiment with empty newsgroups as I dont seem to 
have any in my list.

> > until it finds one with something to display. No beeps.

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