Subject: BCC problem

From: [email-masked] (Jurist Inc.)
Date: 3 Jan 1996 02:55:16 GMT

Has anyone noticed that if you BCC someone, it tells the main receipient 
of the message that you have done so?  This doesn't sound like correct 
behavior.

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From: [email-masked] (R. Stewart Ellis)
Date: 3 Jan 96 15:41:07 GMT

>of the message that you have done so?  This doesn't sound like correct 

I have heard in the past that under some circumstances pine will reveal
something about bcc's, but I have never been able to catch it.  Could you
please document this more fully so I can warn my users about the problem.

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From: Ed Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:35:58 +0800 (GMT)

> please document this more fully so I can warn my users about the problem.

	If memory serves me correctly I don't think it is a pine issue
but is sendmailism.  If you construct an email message with only a bcc
the receipients will get a message with an "Apparently-To:" header that
"reveals" all the receipients.  Not all versions of sendmail cause this
behaviour....if memory serves me correctly.

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Ferguson)
Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:15:31 GMT

> behaviour....if memory serves me correctly.

You're right, it's a sendmail-ism.  If you construct a message that isn't
actually *to* anybody (with no To: line), some versions of sendmail will
tack on the 'Apparently To:' bit from your bcc:.  Of course, I question the
sanity of anyone sending out totally blind messages with no To: (at least a
group name or some such would seem in order). :-)

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From: [email-masked] (Jurist Inc.)
Date: 5 Jan 1996 05:45:23 GMT

I don't think it would be sendmail at our site, because we use MMDF.  
Anyways, the regular mail command works fine.  So does SCOMail.  It is 
just pine that includes the BCC: header on the To: mail receipents message. 
: > 
: > >Has anyone noticed that if you BCC someone, it tells the main receipient 
: > >of the message that you have done so?  This doesn't sound like correct 
: > >behavior.
: > >email [email-masked]
: 
: 	If memory serves me correctly I don't think it is a pine issue
: but is sendmailism.  If you construct an email message with only a bcc
: the receipients will get a message with an "Apparently-To:" header that
: "reveals" all the receipients.  Not all versions of sendmail cause this
: behaviour....if memory serves me correctly.

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From: Dave Hansen <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:25:19 -0800 (PST)

I've seen this on our SCO system running MMDF.  Typically when you don't 
include a To: address.

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