Subject: Pine freezes while trying to write to hard disk

From: Norbert Koch <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 21:05:07 +0100

Hello everyone,

we use Pine 3.91 on a HP running HP/UX 9.0x. The user data is kept on a
hard disk of a DEC running Ultrix 4.2a which is also NIS and DNS server
for our domain. 

Whenever one tries to write to hard disk pine freezes and the classical
deadlock situation occurs. Pine is in sleep mode (therefore, we aren't
able to kill it) and locks (a) the terminal and (b) the open <folder> with
<folder>.lock. This situation is not very promising and some users get a
bit upset - don't know why ;-))

This effect doesn't occur on our Linux machines, so that I'm inclined to 
think it's got to do something with the connection HP - DEC, though we 
can use elm having not the same results

Any comments (flames *not* included - sorry ;-) are welcome. Send an 
email or post to this group.

Thanks in advance

Norbert

... I say - the future is a serious matter -
And so - for God's sake - hock and soda water!
				Lord Byron

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:01:51 -0800 (PST)

> bit upset - don't know why ;-))

Are you using NFS or IMAP to access the mail?  If you are using NFS,
you are probably experiencing a file locking failure.  The only
reliable way to solve this is to install IMAP service and use it
instead...

> can use elm having not the same results

Different systems deal with locking over NFS differently.  Some try to
make it work but fail while others don't even try but report success :(

--DLM

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From: [email-masked] (Vijay Gupta)
Date: 28 Jan 1996 01:21:43 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
>reliable way to solve this is to install IMAP service and use it

How do I find out whether I am using NFS or IMAP to access my mail.
I think I have the same problem at my site. 

We have a cluster of AIX3.2.5 and pine is in /usr/local on one machine 
and is nfs mounted over all the other machines on that cluster.

One one particular machine in the cluster, when trying to send the
composed message, it freezes with the message "Writing Fcc". It
happens on only this machine in the cluster. 

After reading the previous post on this subject, I realized that the
users who are complaining about this are the ones who have thier home 
directories nfs mounted from another machine. 

Thanks in advance
Bye
Vijay