Subject: Addressbook fcc-value ignored with reply

From: Nico van der Horn <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:32:18 +0100 (CEST)

I just discovered that when I reply to a user that is in my addressbook 
with appropriate fcc value, the copy will be done to a folder with the 
same name as the loginname of the receipient.

Can this be changed by configuration or is it not possible ?

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From: Andrej Borsenkow <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:11:32 +0300 (EET)

> Can this be changed by configuration or is it not possible ?

I would like to second this. It should be built in.  It is a narural wish
to keep all mail related to some person (or mailing list) in one place.
One can also choose to put mail to/from more than one person in ONE FCC
e.g. 

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan and DearOldDad)
Date: 30 Dec 1995 01:01:10 GMT

Nico van der Horn ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I just discovered that when I reply to a user that is in my addressbook 
: with appropriate fcc value, the copy will be done to a folder with the 
: same name as the loginname of the receipient.
: Can this be changed by configuration or is it not possible ?

Not sure what you mean by 'appropriate fcc value' but you can fcc to any 
folder name you wish, does NOT have to go to a folder with the 
recipient's login name, but apparently that's the way you set up your 
fcc's.  For example, I correspond with 6 or 7 people about golf related 
topics, and fcc all of that to a folder named saved-golf-stuff.  It 
sounds like what you did is change the fcc in Config Setup to recipient, 
rather than the default sent-mail folder.  Another way is to leave the 
default as sent-mail, then in your Addressbook Edit set the fcc for each 
correspondent to the folder you wish it to go to.  Hope that's clear, if 
not, post or feel free to email me for a clarification.  BYE

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From: Nico van der Horn <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 23:17:57 +0100 (CEST)

On 30 Dec 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote:

> : same name as the loginname of the recipient.
> rather than the default sent-mail folder.

No, I kept the default to sent-mail

> Another way is to leave the default as sent-mail, then in your Addressbook
> Edit set the fcc for each correspondent to the folder you wish it to go to.

That's exactly what I did !

In the addressbook I specified an Fcc for some entries. When I send mail
to one of these, the copy is placed in the specified folder instead of the
default Fcc, this is what I expected and like. 

When I however *reply* to a party that has an entry in my addressbook with
the Fcc field filled in, the copy is done to a folder with the username of
this recipient. This is not what I expected :-(

In your example of the Golf-related subject, it might be handy also if all
reply's are *automatically* copied in the Fcc corresponding to the entry
in your addressbook. Ofcourse this is only handy if all of these users are
related to this subject, otherwise you must specify the Fcc by hand or 
let it default to "sent-mail" and sort it out later.

While responding to this message, Pine wanted to put the Fcc in a (not 
yet existing) folder "jgvd" although the default-Fcc is still "sent-mail" 
and there is no entry for you in my addressbook. By hand I changed the 
Fcc to "pine.out", all other messages of this list are saved in "pineYYMM".

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From: Chip Old <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:10:18 -0500 (EST)

Nico van der Horn ([email-masked]) wrote:

> same name as the loginname of the recipient.
 
I think I missed part of this thread, so pardon me if this has already
been suggested.
 
It sounds like you have your "fcc-name-rule" set to "by-recipient". 
Change it to "default-fcc".  This will cause messages to people _without_
fcc values in your Address Book to be saved to the default fcc folder
(sent-mail or whatever), but messages to people _with_ fcc values will be
saved to the folders specified by those fcc values. 
 
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From: Nico van der Horn <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 06:10:07 +0100 (CEST)

> saved to the folders specified by those fcc values. 

You are right about the setting and its meaning Francis, but in both 
cases if the Fcc is set in the addressbook, it is ignored.

I used fcc-namerule=by-recipient, because mostly I want the Fcc to
correspond to the name of the other party.

The Fcc in the addressbook entry works for Compose, but not for Reply.

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From: Chip Old <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:25:44 -0500 (EST)

> The Fcc in the addressbook entry works for Compose, but not for Reply.
 
On my system it works for Reply too.  I just created "testfolder", put 
you in my Address Book with fcc set to "testfolder", brought up your 
message for viewing, and pressed "R" to reply.  The "fcc" line at the top 
of this reply says "testfolder", as expected.
 
I have "fcc-name-rule" set to "default-fcc".  After I send this off I'll 
change it to "by-recipient" and see if the fcc behavior is different.

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From: Chip Old <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:31:43 -0500 (EST)

> The Fcc in the addressbook entry works for Compose, but not for Reply.
 
This time my setup is as before (replying to your message, your address 
in my Address Book with fcc set to "testfolder") except that I now have 
fcc-name-rule set to "by-sender".  The "testfolder" fcc associated with 
your address still appeared on the "fcc" line in this reply.

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From: Nico van der Horn <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 20:04:40 +0100 (CEST)

> change it to "by-recipient" and see if the fcc behavior is different.

Thanks for your help so far Francis ! I hope next year wil give the 
solution, because I'm really puzzled, for the moment: cheers !

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From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 14:30:16 -0800 (PST)

> solution, because I'm really puzzled, for the moment: cheers !

Could it be that the address you are replying to doesn't match exactly the
address in your address book?

Or, if there is another entry in your address books with the same address,
and that entry comes earlier, and that entry doesn't have an fcc, that
would do it.

Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle