Subject: pcpine folder collections...

From: Jesse Aaron Safir <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:48:14 -0800 (PST)

Hey!

	I access mail folder collections on several different systems 
through pcpine for Windows such that my setup/config screen looks similar 
to this:

folder-collections       = host1mail {host1.somewhere.net}host1mail/[]
                           host2mail {host2.somewhere.net}host2mail/[]
                           oldmail {host1.somewhere.net}oldmail/[]
                           homemail c:/ppp16/pcpine/jasafir/oldmail/[]

I have been unable to get pine to read folder collections on my pc's VFAT
partition (local Drive C)....such as the last line.  I have tried different
syntax, forward slashes, double slashes, backslashes, quotes, relative paths,
etc...but can't get pcpine to recognize the local folder collections.  What
is the correct syntax for that? 

Also, Is it possible to use the .addressbook stored on the imap host?  I 
have tried:

address-book             = {host1.somewhere.net}.addressbook

...and several variations on that theme, but have been unable to get it 
to use that addressbook.

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From: Nico van der Horn <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:11:09 +0100 (CEST)

On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Jesse Aaron Safir wrote:

> I access mail folder collections on several different systems through
> pcpine for Windows such that my setup/config screen looks similar to this:
> 

I am afraid that access of a local folder is not possible. At my site and
at several sites we work with, we use the UUPC package of Kendra. This is
a UUCP implementation for the PC that includes a MUA (mail user agent AKA
MAIL.EXE). This works OK as we can read and write mail offline, but when
you once used PINE,... you want it for its user interface.

PC-PINE expects that your INBOX is on a mailserver with the IMAP daemon 
running, and the configuration should be: inbox-path={host.domain}inbox. 

For this reason it is not possible to use a local INBOX. I tried the same
as you described, tried to bake a new binary (difficult for someone who
knows his limitations are endless because of Unix whilest fighting MSDOS)
without succes. Even posted SEVERAL TIMES on this list,... but no one had
the guts to give me a response. Some told me about the same needs they
had, and asked for information if I found the clue, some names I remember: 

Charly Brady - Telstra
Shannon Adams
Jordan D. Luttrell

I even sent this request to "[email-masked]" ... a robot answered
that I should not expect an answer ... pfffft ... promise kept !

If anyone on this list knows how to use PC-PINE with a local INBOX, so it 
can be used with an other transport than IMAP, please wooden shoe help !?

Thanks !

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From: Mark Crispin <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:46:08 -0800

There is no reason why you can not set your inbox-path to point to a local
folder on PC-Pine.  I just tried it, and it works fine.  PC-Pine will,
however, require that there be an active TCP stack.

What may be tripping you up is if your local file folders are not in one
of the formats supported by PC-Pine.  PC Pine supports mtx (its native
format) and tenex (same as on Unix, mtx with LF newlines) readwrite, and
Unix mbox files readonly.

So, for it to be reasonable to have your INBOX be on the PC filesystem,
you need a mail delivery agent that will write in MTX format.  It also
helps if the extension on the files is ".MTX" (but you can get rid of that
on the setup screen).

> 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857

-- Mark --

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From: Jesse Aaron Safir <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:10:52 -0500 (EST)

Mark,

> folder on PC-Pine.  I just tried it, and it works fine.

could you please provide the format that should appear in my PINERC 
file?  As I indicated in my previous post, I have tried several different 
syntaxes in Setup/Config.  Thanks...

> of the formats supported by PC-Pine.

the files are in the format pine left them in on one of my unix 
accounts...which should be standard BSD mail format.

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From: Mark Crispin <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:25:48 -0800 (PST)

> syntaxes in Setup/Config.  Thanks...

A folder collection of the form
	C:\foo\bar\[]
will work fine.

> accounts...which should be standard BSD mail format.

You will have read-only, but not read-write, access to such folders when they
are local files on DOS.

Note that by default, only files with an extension of MBX will be recognized.