Subject: HELP

From: Amy Kimmel <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:25:29 -0500 (EST)

I have been sending messages to get help but nobody will help me.  When I 
get into my e-mail account I get the message on the bottom saying "Trying 
mailbox lock from process 19443" and then I also get "mailbox is open by 
another process".  I can't delete anything and I don't understand why.  I 
never locked my keyboard and nobody seems to know why it is doing this.  
Please help me.  I already have over 100 messages in a few short hours.

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:00:01 +0100 (MET)

I'm not sure which unix you use, but try from a unix shell
ps -ef|grep 19443

if you get an error message try

ps aux|grep 19443

you should get two lines, look at the end, one is your command (grep), the other one is the command
which locks your mail folder. If you get only one line with your command, than there is an old
lock from (perhaps) a crashed PINE.

If you haven't done already quit PINE.

You should remove the process 19443 an restart PINE. Now all should be OK.

If you only got one line with your grep command, then there is an old lockfile, perhaps from a
crashed PINE. You must find out where the lockfile is and delete it (Mine is usually /tmp/.18.xxx)

But my guess is that you once suspended PINE and instead of coming back started a new PINE. Then you
should quit your PINE and come back to the old one.

Perhaps this solves your problem.

Ciao fro cold Hamburg,
 Michael

> Please help me.  I already have over 100 messages in a few short hours.

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From: Amy Kimmel <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:21:05 -0500 (EST)

I typed in ps -ef|grep 19443 and I got this:

akimmel 19443   1 80       0:03 <defunct>
akimmel 28166  27963    4   16:15:06 pts/77   0:00 grep 19443

what do I do from here?

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From: "Brian P. Hampson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:30:32 -0800 (PST)

> Please help me.  I already have over 100 messages in a few short hours.

see if you have any other PINE processes running - 

i.e. try: ps -ef | grep pine

This should show you any other terminals at which you have sessions 
running or runaway pines.

you might alsow try:

ps -fu akimmel 

to see what you have running on the system.

B.

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From: [email-masked] (Andrew Toppan)
Date: 15 Nov 1995 22:22:55 GMT

Amy Kimmel ([email-masked]) reshaped the electrons to say:
: I typed in ps -ef|grep 19443 and I got this:

: akimmel 19443   1 80       0:03 <defunct>
: akimmel 28166  27963    4   16:15:06 pts/77   0:00 grep 19443

: what do I do from here? 

>kill 19443

If it doesn't go away, try 
>kill -9 19443

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan and DearOldDad)
Date: 16 Nov 1995 07:07:19 GMT

Amy Kimmel ([email-masked]) wrote:

Uhmmmmm ... subscribe to an ISP ... Only a thought !

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From: Chip Old <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:20:54 -0500 (EST)

> Uhmmmmm ... subscribe to an ISP ... Only a thought !
 
Not much of a thought, since we _are_ an ISP.  Amy would have gotten more
useful advice a lot closer to home had she contacted our Help Desk before
asking for help here.  We would have killed the offending Pine process, or
would have explained how she could do it her self.  We would _not_ have
told her to use the reboot command like someone on this list did.  I 
finally had to lock her account to stop her from trying. 
 
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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan and DearOldDad)
Date: 20 Nov 1995 04:54:51 GMT

Chip Old ([email-masked]) wrote:
: On 16 Nov 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote:
: > Amy Kimmel ([email-masked]) wrote:  ... in part ...
: > : what do I do from here? 
       ... then DearOldDad wrote ...
: > Uhmmmmm ... subscribe to an ISP ... Only a thought !
       ... then Chip wrote ... in part ...
: Not much of a thought, since we _are_ an ISP.  Amy would have gotten more
: useful advice a lot closer to home had she contacted our Help Desk before

Yessiree Chipper I could see that, and it was a tounge-in-cheek remark
attempt at a stupid joke ... Sorry if you didn't get it (nor apparently
did any of the others who tried to help her as if she were directly
connected).  G'Day.
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