Subject: Re: Changing "From" Header in pine

From: Sven Guckes <[email-masked]>
Date: 13 Oct 95 14:54:14 GMT

[email-masked] (Harry Jensen) writes:
>Is it possible to change the "From" header in pine so that when I send a mail
>to somebody it appears that the mail is coming from a different address?

Even if it was possible - it is not a good idea to send mail from address A
and make it look like it came from address B.

>I would be getting a second e-mail address soon, and although I would like to
>send e-mails from both accounts, I would prefer that I receive replies to one
>account only.

In that case you should add a "Reply-To: address" header to your mail
which tells MUAs to send replies to the address stored within.

>If it cannot be done in pine, can it be done by any other mail program such
>as elm?

Yes, it can be done with ELM.
You can have the "Reply-To:" added to each outbound mail by adding it to the
"elmheaders" file.  Take a look at this page for more info:
	http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.forwarding.html

Sven

Cc: [email-masked] (Harry Jensen)

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From: Carla Golden <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:39:25 -0500 (CDT)

Is there a way to configure pine so that when I send something to the 
printer it can say "printed by carla" or "submitted by carla" at the top 
of the page?

Thanks

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From: [email-masked] (Robert Rolf)
Date: 12 Oct 1995 19:28:16 GMT

Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]> writes:
;>On 4 Oct 1995, Harry Jensen wrote:
;>>       Is it possible to change the "From" header in pine so that when I
;>> send a mail to somebody it appears that the mail is coming from a
;>> different address?  [...]

;>    One thing you can do easily enough in Pine is to go into the 
;>Configuration screens and define an optional header

;>        Reply-To: whatever-address-you-want

Don't count on that working. Our site appends the generic domain name to
 even Reply-To:, which REALLY screws things up.
 EG: Reply-To: [email-masked] becomes [email-masked]
which won't work since only UAlberta.ca knows how to handle the
First.Last@ form. 

;>If someone makes a reply to you and his/her mailer is well behaved, it 
;>will automatically or by selection send back to the Reply-To: address 
;>rather than to the From: address.

Unfortunately, a lot of listserves (at least the ones I've been on)
don't handle that properly. They insist on using the  From: line
to create the outgoing address (and for verification of incoming posts).

Since my outgoing From: is different than the one I use coming in (mailbus),
I'm having a devil of a time posting to lists that have my old address form,
or I end up with two copies of mail when I resubscribe. I can't delete
the old address, which is still valid, since I don't look like that address
anymore. Being able to change my From: line would help, but I can see
where it would also open up opportunity for forgeries.

Any suggestions (aside from getting to a human managing the listserv)
would be helpful.

Lets see if the .sig, and the From: bear any resemblance this week.

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From: Mark Crispin <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:46:34 -0700

Adding headers that can be changed is done with default-composer-hdrs and
adding fixed headers is with customized-hdrs, both in the .pinerc file.

> and make it look like it came from address B.

There are reasons that you may legitimately want to change the From.  For
example, if you are temporarily borrowing some other user's task, or if
you have multiple persona and need to have the email be from one even if
you're temporarily logged in as the other.  [For example, I regularly send
responses as my UW persona from my commercial account.]

Whether or not Pine permits it is governed by a build-time option in 3.91
that determines whether or not From is on a list of "forbidden to change"
headers.

If you change your From in Pine, Pine will automatically include a Sender
(or X-Sender, depending upon if configuration is worried about LISTSERV
brain damage) that gives your actual credentials.  So it isn't "forged
mail" or rather its "forged but here's who it really is".

You can also change your Reply-To in any recent version of Pine.

To summarize:
	From		who I claim it is From
	Sender		who the program says it is really From
	X-Sender	alternate to Sender for sites worried about LISTSERV
	Reply-To	where I want replies to go
	Return-Path	where error reports about undelivery of the
			 message should go (may be null, meaning "just
			 toss it")

-- Mark --

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