Subject: Re: pine on VAX/VMS, quota exceeded...HELP!!

From: "Steven C. King" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:45:29 -0400

On 12 Oct 1995, Jim Gerland wrote:

> 
> In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] writes:
> |> I use regular vms mail, and can do something called compress on my
> |> mail files which replaces the entire mail set up so that it is smaller, 
> |> reclaiming lots of disk space.  Is there a similar command in pine?
> 
> No, but just have him go into VMSMail and issue the COMPRESS command and then
> remember to exit MAIL adn DELETE MAIL.OLD;*  (However, the COMPRESS command
> within MAIL will probably abort because once you're over quota you don't have any
> disk space left to create the temporary mail file.
> Jim... 

He still should be able to compress his mail file because MAIL is 
installed with the EXQUOTA privilege.  Otherwise, he would really be in a 
rut.  I was over quota before, and I could still compress my mail.

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From: "Steven C. King" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:30:34 -0400

> rut.  I was over quota before, and I could still compress my mail.

And I was a little bit off the subject.  If you want to compress in Pine, 
you'll have to mark the messages you don't want as Deleted.  That's about 
all you can do to "compress" from Pine I do believe.

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From: [email-masked] (Alan J. Flavell)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:23:06 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] writes:

>I really need help from anyone who knows anything about pine 
>when it is operating on a VMS system.  A friend is in dire straits because
>his alloted quota on our system is exceeded.  He has deleted many 
>messages, but the amount of space he is using is still too great.
>I use regular vms mail, and can do something called compress on my
>mail files which replaces the entire mail set up so that it is smaller, 
>reclaiming lots of disk space.  Is there a similar command in pine?

On VMS MAIL, recovery of file space occurs automatically, in my experience:
on exit from VMS MAIL, it announces that it is recovering file space, there
is a delay, and then it exits.

When I use Yehavi's port of PINE to VMS, I feel sure that I have
seen the same message occasionally.  In any case, PINE uses exactly
the same folders as VMS MAIL, so if you were to go into MAIL instead
of PINE, you could do any tidying up that way.

Alternatively the problem could be with keeping too many "versions"
of old VAX/VMS files.  This has nothing to do with PINE as such.
If you do not require to keep old versions of VAX/VMS files, then
just issue "PURGE [...]" at the VMS command prompt.  Use DIR command
with /SIZE etc. options to review file space occupancy.  Again this
is all boring old VMS stuff that really has nothing to do with PINE.

Good luck

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