Subject: To the developers...

From: [email-masked] (J.M. Ivler)
Date: 21 Oct 1995 16:35:09 GMT

So, when is the next release?

and

Will it support PGP?

Thanks, and have a nice day.

jmi
[email-masked]

---

From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT)

> So, when is the next release?

Getting closer.

> Will it support PGP?

It will have hooks for generic external sending and display filters.
It has been observed that this mechanism can be used for seemless
integration of facilities such as PGP, but it is also useful for things
like display filters for Japanese character sets.

-teg

---

From: Finn Hybjerg Hansen <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 09:52:20 +0100

> Getting closer.

Come on, give us a hint!  Is it weeks, month(s) or years to the next 
release?  Is it this year or ........   :-)

Well, sorry for being unpatient, but 3.92 seems very promising, with lots
of new features, and we are looking forward to update our 3.91 version,
soo please give us a little hope, tell us which month(s) to expect the new
release....  :-)

/Finn

---

From: Davy Cheung <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:21:08 +0800

Hello,

> soo please give us a little hope, tell us which month(s) to expect the new

Haa... So do I.

I am now thinking how to dig out space out of my 3Mb disk quota to store 
my own copy of Pine 3.92 before a system-wide upgrade is employed. :>

Regards,
Davy

---

From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 23:15:06 -0700 (PDT)

> release?  Is it this year or ........   :-)

Past history has shown that if we estimate that we'll release by date X,
there is then zero chance that we'll make it by date X.  It doesn't matter
how pessimistic we are.  Really, this is true, ask anyone who has been
using Pine for a few years!  If we said, "surely by the end of the
year...," then you could count on it not being until January or February
at least.  So, you really don't want us to make an estimate, that would
just delay things.

> soo please give us a little hope, tell us which month(s) to expect the new

Disclaimer:  The "surely by the end of the year..." example was not meant
to be a secret estimate :-), but *certainly* you can count on it being out
in less than a year from now.  Oops...

Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

---

From: Ian Russell Ollmann <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 21:37:47 -0700

> at least.  So, you really don't want us to make an estimate, that would

Yes, but by that logic, giving is a finishing date of (none) means that 
pine 3.92 will be finished some time after that! (This would go a bit of 
a ways towards explaining the long delay. :-) Anyway, at least on a 
psychological basis, deadlines are a good way of bringing a project to 
some semblance of completion. 

Feature request: (It's a small thing really. :-)
	When replying to a news post, I'd like to both see the fellows
name (such as Finn Hybjerg Hansen) and his e-mail address in the quote
attribution line above. That way, if I wanted to CC: the fellow (or anyone
else does) I/they can find his e-mail address in the text of the post 
that I write. (Example below.) If this feature already exists, I'd like to 
hear about it! 

				Ian 

> On Mon, 23 Oct 1995, Finn Hybjerg Hansen <[email-masked]> wrote:
> (stuff)