Subject: PINE or POP for VMS??

From: [email-masked] (Lorraine L. Goff)
Date: 11 Jul 1995 21:58:32 GMT

Does anyone know of a PINE or POP mailer for OpenVMS (not alpha)??

Thanks
Lorraine L. Goff, CDRP   VMS System Manager   [email-masked]
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From: [email-masked] (Alan J Flavell)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:27:08 GMT

>Does anyone know of a PINE or POP mailer for OpenVMS (not alpha)??
 
I don't know about that specific combination, but there is a
commercial port of PINE included in the PMDF package, or there
is a free port of PINE by Yehavi Bourvine in Israel, and you can
read my experiences with it and pointers to the package itself
and further information :
 
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html
 
I've no reason to suppose it wouldn't build with your
particular platform.  You don't say which TCP/IP you are
using: if it isn't Multinet then you'll also need a free
network library package called NETLIB.

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From: [email-masked] (Tom Guptill)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 22:25:27 GMT

>network library package called NETLIB.

Has support for VMSMail transport been removed from the latest (free)
version of Pine?  I'm still running v3.89 (if it ain't broke...), and I
didn't even bother with Netlib--you can tell Pine to call VMS Mail to send
outbound messages.  There are a few drawbacks -- you can't use IMAP or POP
servers, you can't read news, and you can't speak properly to LISTPROC due
to a problem with headers, but it lets me read and send mail without any
trouble at all.  I've heard that it's a bit slower this way, but I haven't
noticed any problems.  If all you need is inbound-outbound mail, just set it
up to run with VMS mail and avoid the headaches.

For reference, I'm running Pine VMS Pine 3.89beta under VMS 5.5 on a 7-node
cluster with UCX on 6 nodes and a third-party TCPIP package on the seventh. 
We're also running PMDF, but the PMDF version of Pine is not installed.

	Tom
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From: [email-masked] (Alan J Flavell)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 20:51:43 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>
[email-masked] (Tom Guptill) writes:
 
>version of Pine?
 
It's still there.  I composed that reply "on the hoof" and had
forgotten this possibility - sorry.  As a matter of fact, I got all
kinds of strange results when I tried it, but as Yehavi recommended
the other method, I built the software with the Multinet option and
made no attempt to find the cause of the problems with VMSMail
"foreign protocol" method of operation.
 
>I'm still running v3.89 (if it ain't broke...), and I
>trouble at all.
 
...(other platform details omitted).
 
Thanks for pointing out my oversight (which would, I suppose, have
become clear if the questioner had read my html page and started to
install the package.  Fortunately, fetching an unwanted copy of
some free software isn't _too_ harmful  ;-)
And for posting your experiences.  I do recommend running the current
version, there are some nice enhancements, but I should mention that
if and when you decide to make the transition yourself, you will need
to make some manual adjustments in your configuration.  Again this is
mentioned in my web file.

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From: [email-masked] (Tim Buckner)
Date: 14 Jul 1995 15:04 CST

Has anyone else tried the version Yehavi has out there now? 
I got pine_3_91_beta_5.zip but Alan's web pages discusses beta_3...

So far have been unable to get it to work. It works through the 
pico compile fine but chokes on vms_mail.c

VAX 6000-420, VAX/VMS V6.1, MultiNet V3.4A, DECC$COMPILER C V4.0-000

Basically, what I did was copy 

    [.pine3_91.c-client]ctype.h to sys$library:ctype.h
and
    [.contrib.vms]vmsbuild.com to [.pine3_91]vmsbuild.com
then 
    @vmsbuild.com multinet

It dies with this as the last message

    %VCG-I-SUMMARY, Completed with 1 error(s), 19 warning(s), and
                    26 informational messages.
                    At line number 2392 in [.PINE3_91.C-CLIENT]VMS_

And this error.

              if(strcmp(stream->mailbox, "INBOX") == NULL)
            .....^
    %CC-E-NOEQUALITY, In this statement, "strcmp(...)" and "((void ...)0)" 
    may not be compared for equality or inequality.
        At line number 1406 in [.PINE3_91.C-CLIENT]VMS_MAIL.C;1.

Any ideas here?

Did I overlook discussion on this or is this a new error? 

>[email-masked] (Alan J Flavell) writes...
>>....(other platform details omitted).
>> 

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