Subject: PC-Pine and TIA on Netcom

From: [email-masked] (Steve Sohn)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 03:19:32 GMT

On Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:53:03 GMT, [email-masked] (Steve Sohn) wrote:

Still does not fly. I get messages that the inbox is not available, or whatever;
the problem is configuring the inbox, addresss book and folders. Has anyone used
PC Pine 3.91 with TIA on Netcom?

I Hate those Windoze things, like Eudora, etc., and, while I can use the Unix
Pine on Netcom, having it set up and running on my own machine makes it easier
for old wussies like me to cut and paste without screwing with uploads, etc.

So, if anyone has had success with PC-Pine and TIA, can you please email me 
and lemme know whatcha done.

Here are the "Essential" lines from the PC Pine pinerc that I have had no luck
with:

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# Updated by Pine(tm) 3.91, copyright 1989-1993 University of Washington.
#
# Pine configuration file -- customize as needed.
#
# This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine.  If you
# are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration
# file which sets the defaults for these variables.  There are comments in
# this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about
# specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine
# notes.  On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set.
# For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated
# by commas.  A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a
# continuation of the previous line.  For a variable to be unset its value
# must be blank.  To set a variable to the empty string its value should
# be "".  You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the
# empty string.  Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and
# default to "no".
# Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine.

########################### Essential Parameters ###########################

# Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine.
personal-name=Steve Sohn

# Your login/e-mail user name
  user-id=sasohn
# Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail.
  user-domain=netcom.com

# List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
  smtp-server=netcom.netcom.com

# NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading.
  nntp-server=192.0.2.3

# Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox
# Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER).
inbox-path=netcom.netcom.com inbox

###################### Collections, Folders, and Files #####################

Thanks for any help getting this to go.

	Steve
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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT)

Steve,
The syntax of your inbox-path variable is incorrect.

Instead of:

It should be something like:

 inbox-path={netcom.netcom.com}inbox

-teg

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From: Steve Sohn <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 14:16:42 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Terry Gray wrote:

> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
> To: Steve Sohn <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: PC-Pine and TIA on Netcom
> 
> Steve,
TEG - 
	Been there, done that, tried that ... Turns out it cannot run on 
Netcom cause of some technicality. Well that is too bad, but I do have 
the Unix one, and QVTNet to emulate a window ... Still I wish the damned 
thing would run (PC Pine) on Netcom - Pegasus and Eudora do - must be 
some programming stuff that is WAY over this ole pilot's head.

			Thanks much,

				Steve

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:53:32 -0700 (PDT)

Steve,
The "technicality" appears to be that Netcom has chosen not to run an IMAP
daemon.  (Pegaus and Eudora use POP, Pine uses IMAP).  If Netcom claims
there is a *technical* reason for not running an imapd alongside their
popd, I'd be interested in hearing it.

-teg

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Sohn)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 04:13:20 GMT

On Mon, 17 Jul 1995 03:19:32 GMT, [email-masked] (Steve Sohn) wrote:

=> On Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:53:03 GMT, [email-masked] (Steve Sohn) wrote:

=> Still does not fly. I get messages that the inbox is not available, or whatever;
=> the problem is configuring the inbox, addresss book and folders. Has anyone used
=> PC Pine 3.91 with TIA on Netcom?

Nope, nobody has cause PC Pine needs IMAP daemon and Netcom has only the POP
daemon. Now I know as much about what daemon is as I know how many angels can
dance on the head of a pin (half the number of daemons that can - arf arf!), but
for whatever reason, Netcom chooses not to have the IMAP. 

Hey, who says they can't? Must be a reason for it, and I kind of believe that
the service here is pretty good, so I will do Unix and QVTNet.

C'est ca;

	Cogito, ergo caca ... 

			-- [not] Descartes

					Steve (John - Thanks! |Less is More |)
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