Subject: Forward & .signature location?

From: [email-masked] (Joshua_Putnam)
Date: 3 Jul 1995 07:34:14 GMT

I'm a long-time news and email user recently forced to use pine
on one site instead of more traditional mailers like Mail and
elm.  Some of pine's idiosyncacracies are really getting on my
nerves.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

In every standard mail application I've ever used, forwarding a
piece of mail gives me the original mail as included text, with
my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs.  News readers
mostly work the same way, too.  With pine, I can't figure out how
to do this: it keeps wanting to put my .signature *before* the
forwarded text, which is obviously wrong and can occasionally
cause problems, e.g. when my sig-dashes trigger a long-.sig
filter and most of the message is cut off as being an
excessively-long .signature file.

Is it possible to configure pine to forward mail normally?

While I'm at it, is it possible to have pine insert my sig-dashes
so I don't have to have one .sig file for pine and another one
for the rest of the applications in the world?  (Other apps have
this as a configurable option, but the defualt is usually for the
mailer/newsreader to insert the dashes above the contents of the
.signature file.  Now I have to have a .signature for normal apps
and a .sig-with-dashes for pine.)

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From: [email-masked] (Joshua_Putnam)
Date: 3 Jul 1995 17:10:06 GMT

In <[email-masked]> Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]> writes:

>    My remarks apply to Pine 3.91.

>> my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs.  [...]
>> 

>    In this case, what is "normal" is a matter of interpretation, as Pine 
>allows you to do it both ways.  From the Main Menu, go into Setup and 
>then Config.  Scroll down some, and check the box "signature-at-bottom."

I'm using 3.91, and checking the signature-at-bottom option does
not put my .signature below forwarded mail.  The .signature still
appears before the forwarded mail.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?  

Does anyone know why pine defaults to this odd configuration in
the first place, instead of putting my .signature at the bottom
of my mail?

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From: [email-masked] (Joshua_Putnam)
Date: 3 Jul 1995 17:27:23 GMT

>appears before the forwarded mail.

An emailed response gives me one workaround: pine will format the
forwarded mail properly if I use Reply then change the To: header
after I'm done editing the message.  Not elegant, but at least it
works.

Still hoping this is a configurable option.....

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From: Paul O Bartlett <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:36:55 -0400

> for the rest of the applications in the world?   [...]

    This I doubt.  I, for one, would not want it.

    As a general remark, I doubt that Pine is all things to all people, 
or even intended to be.  It suits my needs just fine, particularly 
because it does have a fairly generous selection of "power user" features 
(such as using a different editor) which one may turn on or off at will.  
I've been using Pine 3.91 under Unix daily for about six months now, and 
every now and then I still discover a new capability.  When I first 
started using it, I thought it was kind of boneheaded, but I have found 
I can do a lot more with it than I originally thought, epsecially because 
there are some interfaces one can exploit, particularly under Unix.

Paul
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