Subject: Re: E-mail client dos and don'ts

From: Nancy McGough <[email-masked]>
Date: 2 Jul 1995 22:37:28 GMT

[email-masked] (John M. Wobus) writes:
 >I've decided to try building a little matrix showing which of the
 >well-known e-mail packages support which Internet protocols.  I think
 >posting such a matrix around the net every once and a while would be
 >fun.  Any info would be appreciated.

This is a great idea.  I agree with the poster who suggested that you
include other protocols such as IMSP, X.500, Kerberos, and NNTP.  Here's
some info about PC Pine for DOS, Windows, and Unix.  I'm also sending
this to comp.mail.pine so folks over there can add other Pine info.
It would be great if you put this on the net somewhere (http or ftp)
so I can add it to my Web pages.

 >-----------------------------------------------------------------
 >Matrix of Popular Mail Systems w/ Internet-oriented features
 >
 >
 >                   POP2        POP3       IMAP2     IMAP4     MIME
 >------------------------------------------------------------------
  PC Pine for DOS      no         no          yes   not yet      yes
  PC Pine for Windows  no         no          yes   not yet      yes
  Unix Pine            no         no          yes   not yet      yes

Does anyone know if Pine has plans to support POP in the future?

Thanks,
Nancy

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From: Selcuk Ozturk <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 1995 21:26:29 EDT

#  >                   POP2        POP3       IMAP2     IMAP4     MIME
#  >------------------------------------------------------------------
#   PC Pine for DOS      no         no          yes   not yet      yes
#   PC Pine for Windows  no         no          yes   not yet      yes
#   Unix Pine            no         no          yes   not yet      yes
# 
# Does anyone know if Pine has plans to support POP in the future?
# 
I don't know the DOS/Windows versions, but, Unix version of pine
already supports POP3 although 3.91 distribution has a bug there
which renders it useless. I think, you have to take the last IMAP
distribution from pine.cac.washington.edu and replace the one that
comes with the pine distribution with it. 

Selcuk

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Selcuk Ozturk
Economics Department               e-mail: [email-masked]
University Of Pittsburgh           http://ftp.econ.pitt.edu/selcuk

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From: Mark Crispin <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 15:24:56 -0700

> Does anyone know if Pine has plans to support POP in the future?

POP3 support (using it as if it was IMAP) is in 3.91, but has known bugs
which make it less than completely useful.  This bug is fixed in the IMAP
3.6 toolkit which is used in 3.92.  This POP3 support is not turned on for
DOS.

For 3.92 (not yet released), and for 3.91 if you substitute the IMAP 3.6
toolkit, the matrix is:

                   POP2        POP3       IMAP2     IMAP4     MIME
------------------------------------------------------------------
PC Pine for DOS      no         not yet     yes   not yet      yes
PC Pine for Windows  no         not yet     yes   not yet      yes
Unix Pine            no         yes         yes   not yet      yes

Versions after 3.92 are expected to use the IMAP 4.0 toolkit, which has
POP3 code that works on DOS.  For these versions, the matrix will be:

                   POP2        POP3       IMAP2     IMAP4     MIME
------------------------------------------------------------------
PC Pine for DOS      no         yes         yes       yes      yes
PC Pine for Windows  no         yes         yes       yes      yes
Unix Pine            no         yes         yes       yes      yes

I can not speculate at the present time when we will have "native" POP3
support (that is, using POP3 as an offline client rather than as a
dysfunctional IMAP), but this is expected to be sooner rather than later.

It would be fairly simple to add POP2 support, but nobody has asked for it
and the concensus in the POP community is that POP2 is dead.

-- Mark --

DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045  ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39"
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.

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From: Aladdin Khamis <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 10:07:46 +0000 (GMT)

I have this mysterious problem with PINE 3.91, I am the system
administrator at my company, and some times when I am checking the system
processes I find some running with no NAME, I go to the owner of the
process to check it up I find out he is running PINE !! 
What should I do about that ?

					Thanks
					Al Khamis
					Galtronics LTD.
					Israel

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From: Aladdin Khamis <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:30:58 +0000 (GMT)

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