Subject: Re: export whole folder?

From: "Ben T. Feese" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:23:48 -0400 (EDT)

If I may, I would tag onto this query with a slightly different problem--

I run PC Pine on my home machine mainly for the purpose of being able to 
read OFFLINE my (Unix) Pine mail (which I get on a dialup acct at the school 
where I teach).  I ftp the Unix Pine folders to my home machine.  Problem 
is, while the PC Pine will read these Unix Pine folders OK, the folders 
are READ-ONLY.  I can copy individual articles to PC Pine folders, but I 
cannot then delete the thus-transferred articles from the Unix Pine folders.

Can anyone tell me if there is a way I can carry out a "MASS" copy of the 
entire Unix pine folder to a PC pine folder, so I won't have to fool with 
dozens or hundreds of individual article copyings?

Also, is there anyway of tagging articles (using the ";" key or whatever 
as in Unix pine) and then applying a command en masse?  I have PC Pine 
3.91 for Windows/Winsock and cannot figure out how to access this feature 
which I so love on the Unix pine.

TIA
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Ben T. Feese  
Professor of Biology    Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program
Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA)            http://www.centre.edu
Internet: [email-masked]   Phone: (606) 238-5318    FAX: (606) 236-7925
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On 31 May 1995, Don Sugarman wrote:

> On Wed, 31 May 1995, R Russell Neuswanger wrote:
> 
> > 	I can back up a folder by exporting each message to a file in my 
> > home directory, appending each to the previous, and then ftp'ing that 
> > from here (my pine account's on a machine in the bowels of the building 
> > somewhere) onto a diskette -- but the process is tedious, and the result 
> > messy. Is there a good way to transfer a whole folder intact onto a 
> > diskette, off that other machine, onto a diskette stuffed into the 
> > workstation I sit at? LaMail, which comes bundled with the OS/2 package 
> > (at least the one we have here), is pretty flaky, but it does transfer 
> > whole folders onto diskette without supervision, in the background, while 
> > I get something else done; surely pine can do better??
> > 
> The folder is just an ascii text file, usually stored in the subdirectory 
> 'mail' under your home directory.  Just transfer that file to diskette in 
> the same way you were transfering the file you were exporting to.
> 
>   e.g., copy mail/<foldername> a:     if attached to your file server.
> 
> This has nothing to do with Pine.
> 
> Don Sugarman
> [email-masked]
> 
>

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From: [email-masked] (Chris Clayton )
Date: 3 Jun 1995 11:50:41 GMT

"Ben T. Feese" <[email-masked]> writes:

[lots more snipping]

>Second: regarding getting an error statement like
>> 	[Can't connect to uxa.cso.uiuc.edu,143: Refused (10061)]

>I have also gotten such an error statement from my PC pine back when I 
>was still trying to use it to access my mail server via a dialup 
>connection.  Because I never could get anyone to tell me what the error 
>message meant (do the numbers "143" and "10061" have some significance to 
>the pine "insiders"???), I finally gave up and now use my PC pine only to 
>read pine folders that I have transferred by ftp from my dialup Unix pine 
>operation to my PC pine (for Windows/winsock) on my home computer.  

	Well, gurus of the 'net, how 'bout it?  Can anyone tell me what might
be wrong?  Is it something fixable?

>You 
>didn't mention ftp; does that mean thatyou were somehow able to use your 
>home PC pine to transfer pine folders from your mail directory on the 
>remote unix machine?

	Yup, I would read mail in whatever folder on my remote Unix machine,
and then "s"ave it to a folder on my local PC.  It meant that I had to have
it configured to recognize my INBOX, remote folder collections, AND local
folder collections, but it worked rather nicely for my purposes until...
(see above problem)

	Note: I had taken this to email, but since it ended back up here
I figured I'd keep it here hoping someone might find a solution to my little
problem.  

Chris
-- 
--
"I am more than the sum of my email!"

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From: "Ben T. Feese" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 20:44:36 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Chris Clayton wrote:

> [snip snip snip snip snip snip]
 
> 	I used a setup just like you...reading my mail at home and storing most
> of it by Saving it from the Unix folder to my PC folder.  It worked great,
> until one day my server started refusing my PC-Pine's attempt to connect to
> it.  I get the message:
> 
> 	I don't suppose you've ever seen anything like this before, have you?
> I'd really like to get PC-Pine back up and running, but I've posted this
> problem twice to the newsgroup without getting so much as a GUESS from anyone.
> It's like no one even read my article!
> 
> 	Well, if neither you nor anyone within earshot knows what this could
> be, that's okay.  I just thought I'd mention it...
> 
> Thanks, and you're welcome.
> Chris
> 
> 
Chris:

First: thanks re. the aggregate command enable option in the setup/config 
menu -- I "remembered" spotting it in the Unix pine option list just 
after my posting.

operation to my PC pine (for Windows/winsock) on my home computer.  You 

Frankly, if it weren't for keeping my home phone lines tied up, I would 
much prefer using the dialup Unix pine setup --it is MUCH faster than the 
PC pine, and I love the way it blends mail and newsgroup browsing almost 
seamlessly.

But I risk losing a perfectly wonderful wife if I don't relinquish these 
phone lines more frequently!

Any suggestions from all the pine priests and priestesses out there?

Ben

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:01:59 -0700 (PDT)

Chris, Ben, et al:
Errors of the form "Can't connect to [port] 143: Refused" almost always
mean the mail server is not running an IMAP daemon.

-teg