Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ?

From: Ben Parker <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:25:18 -0700

I have experienced this same problem with PCPine 3.91 on my PPP machine
and BSD Pine 3.91 on my unix shell account.  Both have been properly set
for reply-to (or is it necessary to re-specify ALL headers for this to
work?) I see the Reply-To when I do a Ctrl-R (expand headers) during
message-compose but I never see the 'Reply-To' line in the actual
email/news posting.  (check this msg/news post to see!)

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   Ben Parker (IL) [email-masked]  [email-masked]
 
---------- Forwarded message ----------
>On 6 Jun 1995, Stefan Hougardy wrote:
...
>> I set customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: [email-masked]
...
>The customized-hdrs option was not implemented until Pine 3.90, please ask
>your system administrator to upgrade to the current Pine 3.91 release...

>|\ |  |\/|  David L. Miller    [email-masked]  (206) 685-6240
>|/ |_ |  |  Software Engineer, Pine Development Team   (206) 685-4045 (FAX)

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 22:24:16 -0700 (PDT)

What exactly are you setting the Reply-To: header to?  That is, what is
the *complete* Reply-To: entry you have entered?

-teg

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From: Ben Parker <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:02:39 -0700 (CDT)

> the *complete* Reply-To: entry you have entered?
 
(clipped from the Setup|Config screen:)

customized-hdrs          = Reply-to: [email-masked]

Do I maybe need to put the address in < > brackets?  I have sent the 
entire msg header and copy of my pinerc file to DLM.

Let me know what else I can do/check for you. Thanks.

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT)

Ben,
Take a look at your sent-mail folder.  I'm betting you'll see the correct
Reply-To: in those messages.  This suggests that some software outside of
Pine is stripping the Reply-To off the messages before they escape from
interaccess.com.

-teg

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From: Ben Parker <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:19:30 -0700 (CDT)

> Pine is stripping the Reply-To off the messages before they escape from

I'm willing to try anything but, below is the full header from the fcc 
folder.  As you can see, the 'Reply-to' is not there.  That suggests 
the problem is indeed in Pine, not in external software.  Note this is 
true of both my PCPine and the BSD Unix Pine in my unix shell account.  
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>From [email-masked]  Mon Jun 19 11:51:31 1995
Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:25:18 -0700 (CDT)
From: Ben Parker <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? 
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I suspect the problem is somehow in the way I have entered the 
'Reply-To' data, but I'm not sure and it looks OK if you manually 
check the pinerc file(s) on both systems (I sent copies of those to 
DLM, I can send to you to if you want...)  

I have not tried a whole new FTP and install of PCPine.  Maybe that is
necessary (but then why would the BSD pine be similarly affected with
this problem...?)

 Thanks!
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From: Ben Parker <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:21:13 -0700 (CDT)

Below is the Fcc header from my Unix Pine version.  There is no Reply-To:
from fcc BSD Unix pine:
>From [email-masked] Mon Jun 19 18:48:30 1995
 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 18:46:12 -0500 (CDT)
 From: Ben Parker <[email-masked]>
 To: [email-masked]
 cc: [email-masked]
 Subject: reply-to test #3
 Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

 This is a test of mail from BSD unix pine to test the 'Reply-To" function.

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This is a message sent via Free Agent using same smtp.interaccess.com 
mail server.  Note there IS a reply-to

 (sent to aol Rc'd OK)
 Forwarded message:
 From:	[email-masked] (Ben Parker)
 Reply-to:	[email-masked]
 To:	[email-masked]
 CC:	[email-masked]
 Date: 95-06-19 19:35:07 EDT

 This is short test message to test the present function of the Reply-To
 from Free Agent...

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Any further ideas?  DLM seems to think the problem is with 
smtp.interaccess.com, but didn't say exactly what.  If that's true, why 
does Free Agent manage to send a reply-to header while Pine doesn't.  
And the reply-to in Pine still doesn't show up in the (internal to 
Pine) File Copy from either PC-Pine or Unix Pine.  Hmmmm...

Any further help appreciated!

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From: [email-masked] (Tapio Johtimo)
Date: 21 Jun 1995 11:31:03 GMT

Hello,

about the problems concerning Reply-To: -field in customized headers...

This might not be the case discussed in here, but I found out that if
I try to set the Reply-To -address to the same from where I am
actually sending my message, Pine leaves it out.

Just for reference, I am using the following setup in my .pinerc:

  # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages
  default-composer-hdrs=To:,
          Cc:,
          Subject:,
 
  # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing
  customized-hdrs=Reply-To: Tapio Johtimo <[email-masked]>

	Happy Juhannus (Mid Summer Day)!

	Tapio
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[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Daniel Barton)
Date: 21 Jun 1995 15:56:08 GMT

The "default-composer-hdrs" doesn't work either.  I added "Reply-To:" to this
parameter in the setup menu, PINE correctly added it to the header list when I
compose a message, but the "Reply-To:" address is not included in the message
that is sent, or in the message that is stored in the "mail.sent" folder.

This seems to be a common complaint, anybody have any other ideas?

Daniel

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From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT)

Pine strips out the Reply-To header if it is the same address as the From
header.

Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle