Subject: Editing

From: Richard Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 10:52:12 -0700 (PDT)

Prompted by the auto response to the B cmd, I'm initiating these 
questions/comments on Pine.
	How do you edit a previously sent e-mail if:
a)  the address needs a change   or
b)  the text needs mods?

	Is there a description of what all the options in configure
 accomplish?
***I just noticed that the above sentence didnot wrap and display 
properly until I inserted a CR after "configure".***

Specifically, I wondered if I could prevent repetition of the notice that 
i'm at the beginning (or end) of a list, after I've depressed a key for 
long enough to seem like many strokes.  After all, Pine seems to 
recognize the futility of my action.

	I've also had difficulties removing characters in the middle of
 previously typed paragraphs.  Is there a clear explanation of the 
correct process?  In a related matter, why does "Delete" act like 
"Backspace"? rather than removing the character under the cursor.  The 
cleanest way I've found to date is to backspace (and remove) over 
characters, thus forcing a need to retype them, rather than "left arrow" 
and delete.

	Hope this is coherent and has answers, and I pray that not tooo 
many replies result. 

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From: David Dumaresq <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT)

> a)  the address needs a change   or

Bounce asks what address to redirect the message to.

> b)  the text needs mods?

It sounds like what you really want to do is Forward a message. 
Forwarding lets you add text to the message before forwarding in on.

David.
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From: [email-masked] (Trey Harris)
Date: 30 May 1995 20:41:10 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
>characters, thus forcing a need to retype them, rather than "left arrow" 

The delete (ascii character DEL, octal 0177, syn control-question mark 
^?) character and the backspace (ascii character BS, octal 010, syn 
control-H ^H) are synonymous in Pico and both do the same things.

The reason that these characters both do the same thing in Pico/Pine is 
that there is no general agreement on keyboard placement, on whether the 
key in the upper-right corner of the keybord should be a backspace key or 
a delete key.  PCs have a backspace key there.  Macs have a delete key 
there.  Unix workstations gallop off in every direction depending on 
vendor, and even (like Hewlett-Packard) by keyboard model.

Usually redefining one's keyboard is a hairy matter, so since backing up 
is a much more common thing to do than deleting forward, the prudent 
course of action is to make both keys do the same thing.  In Pico, you 
can press control-D to delete forward.

For my users, I have just unilaterally decided to set them up initially 
to use DEL (mainly because that's what Emacs wants).  For some other 
sites, the opposite may be true.  I think if you have a heterogeneous 
environment, the decision must be made one way or the other, because 
otherwise you're going to have lots of strange differences between 
different platforms.  In a homogeneous environment, you can just go 
whichever way your vendor went.

(It's unfortunate that both the first and second obvious choices for 
getting help -- control-H and control-? -- are the backspace and delete 
keys.  Programs like Emacs just assume you're going to use control-? for 
backspacing and control-H for help.  Nothing's ever easy these days...)
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Trey Harris                              http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris
  System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology
                       The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill