Subject: Automatic deletion

From: [email-masked] (Julie A. McCarthy)
Date: 10 May 1995 20:46:02 GMT

Has anyone else had a problem with PINE arbitrarily marking messages for
deletion?  

When leaving one folder and opening another I am asked if I want to delete
one or two messages from the last folder I was in.  I have not requested
that these messages be deleted, and in many instances it is not that I
have even so much as moved the cursor onto the message to look at it. 
This problem does not occur each time - maybe every 5 or 6 times I move
from one folder to another.  Pine will not delete the file if I say no to
the question and I can go back to the folder and remove the delete
indicator.  This has been happening for about three weeks and the only 
thing that I think I may have changed in that time is that I added 
another editor to my PINE (vi) which I am not using.  

I'm using Pine 3.91 and aix 3.2.5 on an RS6000.  I've asked the more
frequent users of our system and no one else has this problem. I have
about 52 folders.  I do not have a limited disk space, and there is no 
sweap going on on our machine getting rid of old mail (and as I said the 
messages seem to be chosen at random).

Any ideas?

--Julie
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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 21:47:40 -0700 (PDT)

Julie,
There is a mis-feature in Pine 3.91 that if a message is marked deleted 
in your inbox *before* you save it to another folder, the copy of the 
message will also be marked deleted.  (This will be fixed in 3.92)

Would this explain what you are seeing?

-teg

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From: Nancy McGough <[email-masked]>
Date: 11 May 1995 06:14:52 -0701

>message will also be marked deleted.  (This will be fixed in 3.92)

Hey Terry, I always thought you were the kind of guy who would call a
bug a bug!

Keep up the great work!
Nancy

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From: Dan Schlitt <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 09:25:42 -0400 (EDT)

I think that I have noticed this too.  My conclusion was that if I mark a 
message for deletion in the INBOX and then go back and decide that I 
really wanted to save it to a folder the saved message is still marked 
for deletion.  Could this be true?

/dan

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 07:56:01 -0700 (PDT)

> Hey Terry, I always thought you were the kind of guy who would call a

The difference is whether the behavior in question is an undesired 
side-effect of a *design* decision, or --in contrast-- a coding error.
In this case, we made a conscious decision to have Save preserve the 
existing message flags.  We were thinking about SEEN/UNSEEN, ANSWERED, etc...
Clearly this was the wrong thing to do in the case of the Deleted flag.
 
> Keep up the great work!

Thanks.

-teg

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From: [email-masked] (Julie A. McCarthy)
Date: 11 May 1995 13:00:41 GMT

Teg, I really don't think the mis-feature would explain it.  These are not
messages that have recently been saved to a folder; messages that were
saved weeks ago are being tagged for deletion. 

BTW, I'm not alone in this random deletion thing.  Apparently someone 
else in our department is having the same problem.

--Julie

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 22:01:16 -0700 (PDT)

Julie,
I'll send you by separate message a list of questions to try to narrow
down the possibilites.

-teg