Subject: Re: Pine error message and: Trouble with Bcc and Addressbook

From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:53:02 -0400

It looks like there's nothing like a CERT advisory to get System 
Administrators to upgrade their versions of sendmail.  Unfortunately, not 
as many of them seem to follow up to bug-fix upgrades.
    This problem occurs when you are using Pine with BSD Sendmail 
v8.6.10, which was released to correct a security hole as mentioned in a 
CERT advisory.  However, there are a couple bugs in this sendmail, which 
were corrected and new versions of sendmail were released soon after 
(v8.6.11 and 8.6.12).
    Chances are, while your site was quick to upgrade upon release of the 
CERT advisory, they have not bothered to upgrade to fix the minor bugs 
that were introduced.  Ask them to get the latest release of BSD sendmail 
(v8.6.12) from the same site they got 8.6.10.
    If this does not fix the problem, then report this bug to 
comp.mail.sendmail.

    An an unrelated tangent, given that people seem to upgrade based on 
security advisories but don't bother to follow up by upgrading to bug-fix 
releases or added-feature releases, and given that BSD sendmail v8.7 will 
introduce 8BITMIME handling to permit guaranteed passing of 8 bit mail 
messages over ESMTP, it's my hope that there will be another security 
hole found shortly after a stable release of 8.7 which affects 8.6 
versions.  This way, sites which would not upgrade to 8.7 to support 
8BITMIME mail would go ahead and upgrade to plug a hole, with the side 
benefit of adding 8BITMIME support.  My feeling is that non-US sites 
would upgrade pretty quickly to support their needs for 8-bit data in 
mail, but it will take some crisis to give 8BITMIME the widespread use 
that it needs to be really useful.
    Pine3.92 will take advantage of ESMTP servers with support for 
8BITMIME by sending unaltered 8-bit data to them, meaning it would be 
possible for a message to be sent from Pine to another site without being 
converted to MIME quoted-printable encoding.

Barry Bouwsma
<[email-masked]>

On 8 Apr 1995, Tim Delaune wrote:

> I've had difficulty sending bcc messages to members of a relatively large 
> distribution list (now 60 -- I was originally trying 240

> screen saying either "Memory #" or "Bus #".  [...]  Is this a pine 
> problem?  A system problem?

On 10 Apr 1995, Monee C. Kidd wrote:

> I've been trying to send a rather large file to a rather long distribution
> list and I keep getting different sh ##### : Bus Errors.

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From: Right Said Fred <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:40:13 -0400

Hi, All! My PINE seems to be erasing the messages from the newsgroups 
one	 week after they are posted. Does anybody know how I can change
it?

Thanks

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From: [email-masked] (Monee C. Kidd)
Date: 10 Apr 1995 16:00:34 GMT

I've been trying to send a rather large file to a rather long distribution
list and I keep getting different sh ##### : Bus Errors. The number I've
gotten so far are 16000, 13434 and most recently 12760. I tried cutting my
distribution list down from 75 to 60, as someone suggested pine couldn't
handle that many addresses at once, but I just get different error numbers.
Can someone tell me what these numbers mean and how I might be able to fix
this problem? Thanks.

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:02:39 -0700 (PDT)

Pine does not automatically erase (expire) newsgroup messages, your News
server does that... 

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On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Right Said Fred wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:40:13 -0400
> From: Right Said Fred <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: One more question
>

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:50:22 -0700 (PDT)

It is a problem with the sendmail program on your system, not with Pine
itself.  A possible work-around is to set the smtp-server variable in the
Setup/Config screen... 

On 10 Apr 1995, Monee C. Kidd wrote:

> Date: 10 Apr 1995 16:00:34 GMT
> From: Monee C. Kidd <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Pine error message
>