Subject: PC IP Products

From: Don Sugarman <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:51:19 -0500 (EST)

Following is an updated post of a message I sent last week that did not
tell the whole story.  I got some useful feedback on Mac-related products. 

I'm hoping someone will have some PC-related information.

TIA,
Don Sugarman
[email-masked]

I figure that there are so many folks out there using Pine with so many 
different configurations that one of you will be able to answer a 
question about PC IP products.

We are currenlty experimenting with a dial-up connection using a Shiva
Remote connecting to a Shiva LanRover.  When we log in, the Shiva box
assigns an IP address for that session. 

We are using an MS TCP/IP product that runs under Windows for WorkGroups,
which requires that the user update the IP address each time we log in to
match the IP address assigned by the Shiva box. 

Does anyone know of an IP product that will recognize and use the 
Shiva-assigned address automagically?  We are using a product with that 
capability on the Macs that are part of the test.

TIA,
Don Sugarman
[email-masked]

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From: "Michael C. Newell" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:15:55 -0500 (EST)

> capability on the Macs that are part of the test.

What mechanism does the Shiva box use to inform the host of the assigned IP
address?  Most boxes use RARP or BOOTP, some use DHCP, others don't do
anything more than send a text message.  If the box works OK on Macs running
Versaterm SLIP or MacPPP then my guess would be the Shiva will respond
properly to BOOTP (this is what Annex terminal servers do for example.) In
that case, we've tested: 

  Chameleon
  Trumpet Winsock
  SuperTCP

All of which work.  Note that for SuperTCP you MUST either use the V4.x 
software or upgrade the V3.0 to V3.5 via a ton o' patches on Frontier 
Tech's FTP site.  For Chameleon you need to configure the host address as 
"1.1.1.1", which is kind of weird but at least that's what the manuals 
say.

Trumpet Winsodk and Chameleon also have an adequate scripting language to 
get the IP address from a text response issued by the server if the 
server doesn't support RARP, BOOTP, etc.

Hope this helps,

Mike

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