Subject: MAC Printing - ANSI

From: "W. Brett McKenzie" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 11:16:29 -0500 (EST)

I am getting more faculty requests about printing from PINE while at home. 

How do I get UW modified Kermit for the MAC?

It seems that is the only 'certified' program. I doubt users will want to 
have to purchase VersaTerm Pro on top of what they are already using. 
Some use White Knight, some use Claris. 

Best, B.

W. Brett McKenzie
Info Tech Dept
Bryant College, Smithfield RI 02917

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 16:02:57 -0800

It is available at

	ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/kermit/mac/

|\ |  |\/|  David L. Miller    [email-masked]  (206) 685-6240
|/ |_ |  |  Software Engineer, Pine Development Team   (206) 685-4045 (FAX)
University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20
4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA

On 16 Feb 1995, W. Brett McKenzie wrote:

> Date: 16 Feb 1995 10:18:10 -0800
> From: W. Brett McKenzie <[email-masked]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: MAC Printing - ANSI
> 
> 
>

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From: Chip Old <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 16:26:23 -0500 (EST)

> Some use White Knight, some use Claris. 
 
Another Mac telecomm program that handles Pine's "y" print command 
correctly is the current version of Microphone (Microphone LT, Microphone 
II 5.x, or Microphone Pro 2.x, depending on what bells & whistles you 
want and how deep your pockets are).  VersaTerm Pro is said to print 
correctly, but I've never used it.
 
The most popular Mac telecomm program, Dave Alverson's shareware "Zterm",
doesn't handle printing from Pine correctly, but it's not a complete
waste. When you give the "y" print command, Zterm prints to your screen
rather than to your printer.  You can then scroll back to the beginning,
select the "printed" text, and use Zterm's "Print Selection"  command from
the File menu.  We have a large number of users who are satisfied to do it
that way, because the minor inconvenience is more than offset by the low
$30 shareware fee.  Look for version 1.0b3 (or newer), which now supports
Kermit as well as Xmodem and Zmodem.  It's downloadable from virtually any
BBS, commercial service, or FTP site where Mac is spoken. 
 
Then there is the Macintosh Communications Toolbox, Apple's latest curse
on the telecomm world (preceded by AppleTerm for the Apple II and a long
string of worthless Apple modems).  I've yet to find a Mac telecomm
program that depends on the Apple vt102 CTB tool that will print properly
from Pine, not even to the screen like Zterm at least does.  This means
you can't print from Claris Works, Microsoft Works, and the like, since
they use CTB routines instead of their own telecomm code. 
 
I haven't used White Knight since it was a shareware program called Red 
Ryder (a _long_ time ago), but I'm surprised to hear it doesn't print 
properly.  It's unlike Scott Watson (the creator of RR/WK) to let 
something like that slip by.
 
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