Subject: PINE screws up my vt100 (?)

From: [email-masked] (John McGing)
Date: 16 Feb 1995 23:01:22 -0500

Use pine on my shell account and everything is fine.  

When I telnet to my shell account from my (new) ppp account, telnet works 
as it should (vt100 mode, keys and such work right) until I get into 
pine.  IN pine, the screen seems to "drop" a line.  That is, I'll be in 
the inbox with 7 messages.  If I move the cursor to message 5, I see 2 
Lines for #5.

And when I quit pine, all data now scrolls off the last line of the 
screen; in other words, the screen no longer scrolls but rather all data 
spins by on line 24 of the screen.

This only happens when I telnet in.  And only after using pine.  ftp, nn, 
gopher, lynx etc all work as they should.  If I don't use pine things 
work, but using pine means I have to log out and relog back in.

Does this make sense to anyone and is there something I can do to resolve 
this?

John
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From: L_Man <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 21:55:09 -0800

funny I've had a strange problem too that i attribute to Pine and
a vt100 messup... if i page through newsrgroups using + after about
four pages i see this  "OK" on the screen and i'm locked up from my
account. I've tried rehashing the vt100 screen but nothing works so
I punt the whole thing and dissconnect.  What's going on here? This
has happened to me on a consistent basis on various newsgroups (including
this one).

lawrence

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 22:49:36 -0800 (PST)

You have Mr. Hayes (of modem fame) to thank for this... and it's why the 
keymenu now advertises the SpaceBar as the way to page forward, instead 
of the "+" symbols.

Here's the deal: most "Hayes compatible" modems interpret three 
consecutive "+" characters as a request to interrupt the modem 
connection.  The "OK" you are seeing is coming from your modem.

Solution: use the space bar instead, or leave more time before 
consecutive + characters.

-teg

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From: "Brian E. Sherman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 23:20:14 -0800 (PST)

> four pages i see this  "OK" on the screen and i'm locked up from my

Depending on how fast you "page" through the newsgroups you could be
sending the "+++" command to your modem and causing the modem to go from
data mode to command mode.  The "OK" is the modem waiting for a command.
Next time this happens, try keying in "ATO" <cr> and the modem should go
back online and you should still be in pine.  To stop this from happening,
use the space bar to page. 

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From: Shane DeRidder <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 17:16:32 -0600

> account. I've tried rehashing the vt100 screen but nothing works so

For the slim possibility that you're serious, hitting the + key three 
times in a row tells most modems to enter command mode.  To get back to 
the connection you would type "ATO" on a hayes compatible modem.

Shane-

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