Subject: goblins in Pine?

From: [email-masked] (Judith Winter)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 94 01:47:33 PST

Has anyone other than me been having dificulties with Pine lately?   Pine
3.91, last week or so, when I am reading mail, it will "randomly" act as if
I have given it a command, e.g., it will:
        ask me if I want to do 'x', or
        start/stop a reply,or
        open another e-mail, or
        ask me which e-mail I want to jump to, etc.

As far as I can tell, it does this independently of anything I may or may
not do.

FYI:
Mac Duo 230, 4 meg ram, system 7.1, 
Global Village Teleport Gold II mmodem, 
Kensington Turbo Mouse, lotsa extensions, 
and yes, I use Eudora for mail [when I'm in slip account (Mac TCP)], 
but I use Pine when in shell account [Z Term 0.9].  

Please reply by e-mail.  TIA.

In connection,

Judith Winter
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Michael Parson)
Date: 22 Dec 1994 14:32:51 GMT

In article <9412220947.AB19018@islander>,
>Global Village Teleport Gold II mmodem, 

This guy is probably the source of a few of your problems.  The GV modems 
do not come with any form of error correction out of the box.  I know 
because my girlfriend just got a PPC Performa, and this modem was 
included in the package.  When I read through the documentation, it said 
that error correction and data compression were available at an extra 
cost (on a 14.4k modem!).

Anyways, the wrong kind of line noise could be interpreted by PINE as a 
command as though you typed it in from the keyboard.  You might want to 
check with GV to see how much their error correction and data compression 
software is for their modem (software upgradeable hardware.....).

>and yes, I use Eudora for mail [when I'm in slip account (Mac TCP)], 

Do you experience other problems when using SLIP?  Maybe not mail going 
off on its own, but do you ever have problems with bad downloads (ftp's)?

>but I use Pine when in shell account [Z Term 0.9].  

Great program!  It is what I use to login when I use Macs at work.

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From: Mary Aplin <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 11:36:02 +0100 (MET)

> Please reply by e-mail.  TIA.
I'm having the same problem!!
Setup:
Mac IIsi, 6 meg ram, system 7.1
Hayes Accura Fax/Modem
Not too many extensions.  
I'm calling into a Gandalf Starmaster, which telnets out to our Alpha 3300.

It's very bizarre!!!!

Mary Aplin
Loyola University, New Orleans

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From: Chip Old <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 01:02:55 -0500 (EST)

> cost (on a 14.4k modem!).
 
Depends on exactly which Global Village modem it is.  The Teleport Gold 
Judith mentioned is a V.34bis modem with error correction and data 
compression.  Many of the Performas come with less capable GV modems 
which, IMNSHO, should be trashed.  Apple never has been able to get its 
corporate act together when it comes to modems.
  
> Great program!  It is what I use to login when I use Macs at work.
 
Except that ZTerm doesnt know what to do with vt100/102 print commands, so
Pine's attached-to-ansi print command (y) doesn't work as expected.  Aside
from that, ZTerm is easily the best bang for the buck ($40 shareware) in
Mac telecomm software. 
 
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Chip Old   <[email-masked]>