Subject: How to post news through pine or elm?

From: [email-masked] (Izumi Sakai)
Date: 2 Nov 1994 05:46:12 GMT

Hello all netters,
Just wanna know how to post news through elm and pine? I can only read news
through pine, but not elm, and can't post news through both programs.
Thanx for any help.
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From: [email-masked] (Liam Crilly)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 09:21:38 GMT

Izumi Sakai wrote:
»Hello all netters,
»Just wanna know how to post news through elm and pine? I can only read news
»through pine, but not elm, and can't post news through both programs.
»Thanx for any help.
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Pine became a full newsreader including posting
ability with v3.90.  Elm has never had any
newsreading capabilities.

	Liam.

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From: Sven Guckes <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 20:54:48 GMT

[email-masked] (Izumi Sakai) writes:

>Just wanna know how to post news through elm and pine?

FAQ!

Please read the FAQ,
question "2.19 Can I use elm for posting and replying to news?"

>I can only read news through pine, but not elm, and can't post news
>through both programs.

Well, ELM is an mail transport agent - not a newsreader.

Sven

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From: [email-masked] (a very mysterious person)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 06:29:56 GMT

Sven Guckes ([email-masked]) wrote:
:[email-masked] (Izumi Sakai) writes:

:>Just wanna know how to post news through elm and pine?

:FAQ!

:Please read the FAQ,
:question "2.19 Can I use elm for posting and replying to news?"

:>I can only read news through pine, but not elm, and can't post news
:>through both programs.

:Well, ELM is an mail transport agent - not a newsreader.

:Sven

I hope you're wearing asbestos attire.  Elm and pine are "mail user agents".  Sendmail, smail, et. al. are mta's

Kelly

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From: [email-masked] (Acme Prez.)
Date: 17 Nov 1994 21:57:16 GMT

in response to what [email-masked] (S. Rennacker) wrote:
&One response said that you could use PINE to do this, another indicated 
&neither PINE nor ELM could be thus used - which is correct?

the *newest* version of pine allows you to read netnews...

personally, I feel that the two are different enough that it's
worth it to keep a distinction between mail and netnews.

&Isn't there some standard internet addressing format that enables one to 
&send a post to a conference and, if so, what is it? Isn't there such a 
&convention to use to post to mailing lists to which one is not a regular 
&subscriber ("[email-masked]" for example)?

								Patrick
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From: Sven Guckes <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 03:14:19 GMT

[email-masked] (S. Rennacker) writes:
[Posting via email]
>One response said that you could use PINE to do this, another indicated 
>neither PINE nor ELM could be thus used - which is correct?

Neither is correct.
You can post via email by sending it via a mail->news gateway.
This should not depend on the mailer you use.

>Isn't there some standard internet addressing format that enables one to 
>send a post to a conference and, if so, what is it?

It's a FAQ.  :-)
See the ELM FAQ:
2.19    Can I use elm for posting and replying to news?

Sven

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From: Sven Guckes <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 03:21:43 GMT

>Sendmail, smail, et. al. are mta's

Indeed!  ELM is a "Mail _User_ Agent" - not a "Mail Transport Agent".
Thanks for the correction!

Sven  [on fire]

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From: [email-masked] (S. Rennacker)
Date: 17 Nov 1994 11:30:37 -0800

Isn't there some standard internet addressing format that enables one to 
send a post to a conference and, if so, what is it? Isn't there such a 
convention to use to post to mailing lists to which one is not a regular 
subscriber ("[email-masked]" for example)?

"There is no such thing as a dumb question - only a dumb answer."
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From: [email-masked] (Sami-Jaakko Tikka)
Date: 21 Nov 1994 01:40:14 +0200

> worth it to keep a distinction between mail and netnews.

Whereas I would like to be able to handle my email, news and www *and*
saved messages (with intelligent searches like in mh's pick command)
with one single unified and consistent interface (which does not mean
one single process, unless it was a multithreaded process).  I think the
makers of Pine have the right idea and Pine is currently my mail
software of choice.

I know this probably will make me look like a computer-illiterate, but
I'd like to think myself as a hacker who just wants to get his
communication needs satisfied with the minimum of fuss.

Sami "tried rn, gnus, nn, tin, tass, nuntius, newswatcher, macsoup,
rmail, vm, elm, mh, eudora and pine, did I miss any" Tikka :)
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From: [email-masked] (S. Rennacker)
Date: 20 Nov 1994 20:11:40 -0800

Sami-Jaakko Tikka ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
: (Acme Prez.) wrote:

: > personally, I feel that the two are different enough that it's
: > worth it to keep a distinction between mail and netnews.
(snip)

Whereas the separation might usually be useful, special circumstances 
sometimes make it helpful or necessary to mail to a newsgroup. Just 
having the address should be all that it takes. I am told that the form: 
[email-masked] would do it, so I ask:

1. Is that correct?
2. How can one ascertain the "internet.address" portion of the above from 
a newsgroup heading? For example, to what address would one send a 
message via mail to news.newusers.questions 
([email-masked])?

Steve

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From: [email-masked] (Jon Bell)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 12:12:53 GMT

>[email-masked] would do it, so I ask:

Yes.

>([email-masked])?

There are several sites that provide this service for most (if not all) 
of the "worldwide" newsgroups.  You can probably find a list in Scott 
Yanoff's "Internet Services Guide" in news.answers.

-- 
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Dept. of Physics and Computer Science        Clinton, South Carolina USA

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From: [email-masked]
Date: 22 Nov 1994 21:11:38 -0800

S. Rennacker ([email-masked]) wrote:

: I am told that the form: 
: [email-masked] would do it, so I ask:

: 1. Is that correct?

Yes...

: 2. How can one ascertain the "internet.address" portion of the above from 
: [email-masked]

Try mailing to : [email-masked]

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