Subject: Folder Config

From: [email-masked] (Rob Bidleman)
Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:23:39 -0700

I have seen this thread before without an answer. I belong to a very busy
list and receive close to 100 posts a day from it. I attempted to have it
filtered to a folder but -- no go. Someone said earlier that it was not 
possible but I have seen it done by others without scripts or additional
software. Huh?

Robbee

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From: "Steven D. Majewski" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 11:01:01 -0400 (EDT)

> possible but I have seen it done by others without scripts or additional

It's possible, but just not possible with Pine alone, which is the
Mail User Agent, and has no control over delivery. 

There are several programs, filter (part of the elm distribution),
procmail, deliver, and others that can do delivery filtering for 
you. Some of them can be run, installed as root, as a partial replacement 
for sendmail, but most can be run unpriviledged by a single user
by using the .forward file to direct all mail to this filtering 
program. 

The feature that Pine has that makes it useful when used with a 
delivery filter, but which often confuses people into thinking 
that it can do that filtering, is the ability to be configured
to notify you of new mail delivered to a set of several folders
other than the default INBOX. So, if you have some mail redirected
to another folder, you will still get a new-mail from ... message. 

If you don't need *delivery* filtering, mush, and the latest version of 
Pine (also probably MH, and others I'm not familiar with) both let you 
apply a command to a whole series of messages. For example, in Pine
you can select all messages addressed To: a particular mailing list,
and then either Zoom in on them ( show only those messages in the
display ) or Apply a Save to another folder command to them. ) 

-- Steve Majewski       (804-982-0831)      <[email-masked]> --
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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 08:35:40 -0700 (PDT)

> to another folder, you will still get a new-mail from ... message. 

Steve et al:
This isn't quite correct.  Due to performance concerns, Pine only keeps 
the "current" and "inbox" folders open, so those are the only two you 
will get "immediate" (i.e. within 2.5 min)  new mail notification in.

In the future we will be investigating ways to improve this.

For now, I think the main virtue of Pine's "Incoming Msg folders" is that
you can press TAB at the end of the Index and Pine will see if there are
any Recent messages in each of the listed folders.  This *reduces* the "out
of sight, out of mind" problem that delivery to multiple folders sometimes
causes. 

-teg