Subject: Pine and Mac don't mix?

From: [email-masked] (Asteroid #1824)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 01:51:40 GMT

OK, this is more a question about Pico:

I have a Mac LC, with a standard keyboard.  When i try to use the 
"control ^" feature, to mark text for cutting, i end up typing "6".  I can 
use "^K", "^Y", "^X", and many others; however, i still haven't figured out 
why this "^^" does not work.

Anyone has experienced the same?

Thanks

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From: [email-masked] (Howard A. Gillman)
Date: 7 Aug 1994 20:16:03 -0700

>Anyone has experienced the same?

Exact same problem from both my IIsi and my old SE.  I posted the
problems a few months back and got some suggestions for workarounds (I
think involving <esc> <esc> or something--I'd have to check my notes)
but it didn't work.  Very frustrating.

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:56:53 +0000

It sounds like you are using NCSA Telnet 2.6.  Versions 2.5 doesn't have 
this problem.

Telnet 2.5 used to fiddle with the KCHR resource which maps the keyboard 
into the characters that actually get sent down the line to the host.  
This apparently caused various problems, so in version 2.6 they always 
honour the KCHR selected in the System.

Unfortunately this means that Ctrl/^ now appears as "6".  Sigh.

One workaround is to type Ctrl/Shift/6 (which if you look at the keyboard 
really IS Ctrl/^ ... Ctrl/6 without Shift could be argued to be just 
that: Ctrl/6!).  This works fine.

Alternatively you can try using one of the alternative KCHR files that 
are shipped with Telnet 2.6.  One of these is called "U.S. - Fixed 
Controls".  Drag this onto your System Folder icon (it will be placed in 
the System file).  Then use the Keyboard control panel to select it.  
With luck things should now work.

As an aside, I found that doing this helps me with my British keyboard.  
The keystroke Shift/3 used to generate the hash (tic-tac-toe) sign in 
Telnet 2.5, but in 2.6 generates the (curly-L) pound sign actually 
printed on the key top.  Unfortunately UNIX doesn't like this!  Using the 
US KCHR resource fixes this too.

A useful thing to know is that Command-Option-Space cycles around the 
KCHRs you have installed in your System (ie, those visible in the list in 
the Keyboard control panel).

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