Subject: Session is READ-ONLY

From: [email-masked] (Jay Allen)
Date: 3 Aug 1994 13:48:08 GMT

Hi,

	I've seen it on this newsgroup, but, unfortunately, I ignored it.
When I start up Pine, it tells me that it is a read-only session.  Normally,
it is because there is another session of PINE running (I already know that)
whether suspended or on another UNIX session.  However,  this happened after
I logged out.  In other words, I have no open UNIX sessions on the 
network (I checked several times) and I have no current jobs running in the
background.  What's up with this??

	BTW, HELP, my mail is piling up, and I can't delete!! :)

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From: [email-masked] (Liam Crilly)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 11:37:40 GMT

Jay Allen wrote:
[...]
»When I start up Pine, it tells me that it is a read-only session.  Normally,
»it is because there is another session of PINE running (I already know that)
»whether suspended or on another UNIX session.  However,  this happened after
»I logged out.  In other words, I have no open UNIX sessions on the 
»network (I checked several times) and I have no current jobs running in the
»background.  What's up with this??

You may have no "jobs" running in background but there may well
be a pine process running in background.  I don't know what type
of unix you're on so either `ps -ux` or `ps -fu <user>` should
show _all_ of your processes including those not tied to a tty.

If there is a stray pine process then kill it with `kill -9 <pid>`
If not, then something's gone wrong somewhere and you'll have to
delete the lock file.

This should be called something like:	/tmp/.\var\mail\user
or:					/tmp/.\usr\spool\mail\user

Delete that file and your INBOX should become writeable again.

Hope that works/helps,

	Liam.

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From: [email-masked] (Jason Haar)
Date: 8 Aug 1994 09:18:01 GMT

Jay Allen ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hi,

: 	I've seen it on this newsgroup, but, unfortunately, I ignored it.
: When I start up Pine, it tells me that it is a read-only session.  Normally,
: it is because there is another session of PINE running (I already know that)
: whether suspended or on another UNIX session.  However,  this happened after
: I logged out.  In other words, I have no open UNIX sessions on the 
: network (I checked several times) and I have no current jobs running in the
: background.  What's up with this??

: 	BTW, HELP, my mail is piling up, and I can't delete!! :)

Once upon a time, you were reading mail with pine, and some form of crash 
occured, meaning that your system mail folder was left LOCKED. Next 
time(s) you invoked pine, it saw the file was locked - and therefore 
opened it read-only. The fact that this locked-file problem is ongoing 
implies to me that the files is physically locked via the .lock file 
extension.

Check for /usr/spool/mail/jsallen.lock or /usr/mail/jsallen.lock 
(assuming your usercode is jsallen). Ensure you're not using mail at that 
point in time, and then delete it (it will be a zero-length file).

You really should have just asked your System Admin/Postmaster - she could 
have probably helped you quicker than we have...

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Cheers,

Jason
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