Subject: Receipt for sent mail

From: [email-masked] (Suzan Zagar)
Date: 26 May 1994 20:37:48 GMT

Is there a way in Pine to request a return receipt for a sent message?? I 
know some mail programs have this feature--it is pretty neat to know that 
your intended recipient has actually read your message instead of being 
left in the dark wondering if the message has been read.

Suzan Zagar
Woodward Biomedical Library
University of British Columbia
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Jim Davis)
Date: 26 May 1994 14:06:24 -0700

In article <[email-masked]>,
Suzan Zagar <[email-masked]> wrote:
:Is there a way in Pine to request a return receipt for a sent message??

I believe it's been mentioned as a feature of Pine 3.90.

: I 
:know some mail programs have this feature--it is pretty neat to know that 
:your intended recipient has actually read your message instead of being 
:left in the dark wondering if the message has been read.

Actually it tells you no such thing.  At best it suggests that the
message was locally delivered.

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From: [email-masked] (Suzan Zagar)
Date: 27 May 1994 06:51:17 GMT

Jim Davis ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]>,
: Suzan Zagar <[email-masked]> wrote:
: :Is there a way in Pine to request a return receipt for a sent message??

: I believe it's been mentioned as a feature of Pine 3.90.

: : I 
: :know some mail programs have this feature--it is pretty neat to know that 
: :your intended recipient has actually read your message instead of being 
: :left in the dark wondering if the message has been read.

: Actually it tells you no such thing.  At best it suggests that the
: message was locally delivered.

I don't think so. I sometimes use NUPOP. If you request a return receipt, 
you actually receive two receipts. The first one tells you that it was 
delivered (this receipt comes back instantly). Then after the recipient 
has actually viewed the mail, you get a second receipt telling you the 
time that the message was read. I was looking for this feature in PINE.

Suzan Zagar

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 09:02:59 -0700 (PDT)

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> time that the message was read. I was looking for this feature in PINE.

The problem is that there is no way to tell a priori what (if anything) you
will get back when the mail is delivered or read.  Some MTAs will send a
delivery reciept.  Some MUAs will send a read reciept.  But in many cases you
will get _nothing_, no matter what you request :(

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From: Ed Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 11:15:32 +0800 (TPE)

> will get _nothing_, no matter what you request :(

	Not to mention the fact that there is *no* standard for requesting
a "read receipt".  Therefore, even if your MUA supports such a feature
it is very doubtful that a different MUA will recognize the request and
respond.  (BTW, there is no standard for requesting a delivery receipt
either.)

					Ed

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From: [email-masked] (Paul Robinson)
Date: 29 May 1994 09:48:39 GMT

: : I 

Lest we forget, there are two headers: one is 'Return-Recipt-To:' and
the other is 'Delivery-Notification-To:' (or whatever the header is) and
as such, the two do two different things, and one or both can be present.

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From: Ed Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 20:24:17 +0800 (TPE)

> as such, the two do two different things, and one or both can be present.

	Lest we further forget that there are no "standards" for either
the 'Return-Receipt-To:' or anything remotely resembling 'Delivery-Notification-To:'