Subject: some comments about pine

From: [email-masked] (Karl Glazebrook)
Date: 28 May 1994 19:02:01 GMT

Why is pine so bad in handling mail messages without the From: or Date:
headers?

Normal ucb mail seems to work fine with these - can't pine do a similar
job of extracting the date/sender from what's left?

I guess someone is going to say this is symptomatic of mixing ucbmail and
pine - well I like to use ucbmail occasionally over slow remote links. I 
think pine should peacefully coexist with other mailers...

And another thing - why does it append a full ip name (in my case
@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk) if the mail message is never leaving the local
system?

Karl [sick of xxx -1 :-) ]

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Karl Glazebrook,           email:  [email-masked] 
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Cambridge, U.K.              WWW:  http://cast0.ast.cam.ac.uk/~kgb/

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From: John Lamp <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 09:39:30 +1000 (EST)

> @mail.ast.cam.ac.uk) if the mail message is never leaving the local

I can put in 2c on that one. On another site, I run a listserv and people
subscribing to the listserv from the local machine (calvados) did not have
the fqdn added to their address. The listserv happily passed all the mail
upstream, including the stuff for the local people. The mail software at
the next site (bushwire) then added its fqdn to the mail from address, so
mail from calvados was getting a from address of bushwire. 

I got lots of bounces, the local people never got mail from the listserv.
After my ears stopped ringing, I fixed it in no time flat. Moral of the
story: for a quiet, effective life always use <user>@<fqdn> as an address.

Cheers
John

(BTW Karl, like the Trojan Room Coffee Pot on the World Wide Web (-: )

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From: Roman Czyborra <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 03:56:43 +0200

> Why is pine so bad in handling mail messages without the From: or
> Date: headers?  Normal ucb mail seems to work fine with these -
> can't pine do a similar job of extracting the date/sender from
> what's left?

I second this.

> @mail.ast.cam.ac.uk) if the mail message is never leaving the local

It's called explicit lyrics.  After all, you never know if your
message won't be forwarded or filed some place outside.