Subject: Mac Pine client

From: John Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 16:20:45 -0700 (PDT)

I'd like to underscore the need for a Mac IMAP client.  Pleae comment on:

What do the folks at UW use?  Must be unix pine via telnet??

Can we get any better status information on Mailstrom 2.0 and/or Pine 3.8x?

I've seen Mailstrom 2.0 and it had a nice look & feel, but crashed.
Mark Crispin should be encouraged by the fact that many would be pleased
as punch to just have a key-stroke driven mac version.. i.e no need to do
massive re-design (seriously).

What about using a cross-platform environment with the motif version to
elicit a mac version??

Mail_Drop crashes on launch on my Mac II running System 6.0.8.  :^(

Help!  People here are testing Pegasus!  :^)

Using unix pine from Mac is crazy man!   (I use unix pine in IMAP mode)

John Miller						503-768-7225
(@ Lewis & Clark College, no relation to David Miller)

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 19:19:13 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 2 May 1994, John Miller wrote:

> I'd like to underscore the need for a Mac IMAP client.  

Macs are certainly the biggest hole in the IMAP tapestry...

> Pleae comment on:

A mixture of things.  Some do indeed use NCSA Telnet to connect to a Unix
host and run Pine.  Others have had fair success with Mailstrom on certain
platforms. 
 
> Can we get any better status information on Mailstrom 2.0 and/or Pine 3.8x?

I have heard nothing from Adam Treister, Mailstrom's author, in quite a 
few months, but I am not on the mailstrom email lists.

While not relevant to the Mac problem, the next release of Pine will be 
version 3.90 and we are still hoping for Beta "by late Spring".
 
> massive re-design (seriously).

Just for clarification for those who don't know: Mark has nothing to do
with Mailstrom, other than providing imap technical assistance to Adam... 
However Mark did express interest in porting Pine to his Mac in his spare
time, but I don't think he's had a chance to pursue this lately. 
 
> What about using a cross-platform environment with the motif version to

I'm sure there is merit in this approach, but there are some 
alligators to watch out for as well.
 
> Mail_Drop crashes on launch on my Mac II running System 6.0.8.  :^(

Sigh...
 
> Help!  People here are testing Pegasus!  :^)

And that on a Mac!?
 
> Using unix pine from Mac is crazy man!   (I use unix pine in IMAP mode)

What can I say?  We can't do everything...

Know any Mac gurus looking for a project?  

-teg