Subject: Problems with WYSE-50 terminals

From: "Brian P. Hampson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 08:46:23 -0700 (PDT)

Pine is NOT happy with our Wyse Terminals.  It won't use the cursor 
keys.  Is it the terminfo is wrong or the proogram?  

OS (DG/UX 5.4.2)

Help...those less technically inclined aren't overjoyed at using ^N etc 
to move around :(

suggestions??

B.

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 10:01:16 -0700 (PDT)

Brian,

Pine does not use terminfo to read the keyboard.  The problem is that Pine
already uses the control characters sent by Wyse 50 terminals for other
commands.  To read the Wyse 50 cursor keys we would have to disable other
functions, which we are not willing to do.  Sorry. 

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From: Richard Lee <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 14:29:49 -0500 (CDT)

> functions, which we are not willing to do.  Sorry. 

	Does pine use terminfo to write to the screen?  I can't get pine 
to run with my terminal (although pico runs) and I was thinking of 
beefing up the terminal information in the hopes of running it.  Is that 
a dead end?

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From: "Brian P. Hampson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:19:15 -0700 (PDT)

> functions, which we are not willing to do.  Sorry. 
This is unfortunate, does anyone know of an emulation mode that the WYSE 
will do (these are actually WYSE 160's) that will get along with pine 
better, or are there any plans afoot to make key/command a definable 
choice at compile time? 

B.

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 13:01:16 -0700 (PDT)

Yes, pine does use terminfo for output, but only a fairly limited set of
attributes.  Unfortunately pine and pico do not share the same screen
drivers, so differences do exist in some ports....

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From: Brian Williams <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 15:15:16 -0700 (PDT)

We use Wyse 150's set with vt100 emulation quite a bit here, in addition
to pc's. As far as I know there have been no problems with that emulation
and pine. 

Brian Williams			Automation Manager
Multnomah County Library  	801 SW 10th  Portland, OR 97205
(503)248-5227 (v) (503)248-5226 (f) [email-masked]

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From: "Brian P. Hampson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 16:40:54 -0700 (PDT)

> to pc's. As far as I know there have been no problems with that emulation

What do you do for function keys, since VT100 doesn't officially support 
function keys?

 B.