Subject: reading news in PC-pine

From: "W. Holemans" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:21:36 +0200 (MET DST)

How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix 
machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be
created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok.

Some examples would be welcome.

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From: "Richard C. Gaine" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:29:24 -0400 (EDT)

Hello,
	How do you set up news in general?  I realize that is a rather
broad question, but can someone give me a step by step instruction? 
Reading news through pine sure would be nice.

Thanks much,
Rick Gaine

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:47:09 -0700 (PDT)

Wim,

Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? 

--DLM

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From: "W. Holemans" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 18:12:40 +0200 (MET DST)

> Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? 
No, i didn't. I just did so after your message and now it seems to work. 
But isn't there a way to use the remote .newsrc file instead of the local 
on the PC and update this one just as is done with unix-pine ?

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:36:00 -0700 (PDT)

Sorry, remote .newsrc files are a couple releases away yet...

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:03:29 -0700 (PDT)

> Sorry, remote .newsrc files are a couple releases away yet...

However...

Wim may be thinking about access to new via IMAP.

(Ultra-brief tutorial for news-impoverished Pine enthusiasts follows.)

Two ways to access news via Pine:

 1. Via NNTP.  Your newsrc file must be on the machine where Pine is running.
    pinerc entry:   news-collections=News *{news.wherever.edu/nntp}[*]

 2. Via IMAP.  Your newsrc file must be on the machine where news is stored.
    pinerc entry:   news-collections=News *{news.wherever.edu}[*]

The advantage of option #2 is that the same .newsrc can be used for both
Unix Pine and PC-Pine.  The disadvantage is that you must have an account
on the machine that stores the news and runs the NNTP server.

Caveats:

  Pine 3.89 doesn't know how to Post news
  Pine 3.89 doesn't know how to subscribe/unsubscribe 
    (the newsrc must already exist.)

  3.90 will have both posting and subscription

As David notes, a version *after* 3.90 will support "location
independence" of support files such as .newsrc, so that you can use the
same .newsrc from multiple platforms, even if you don't have an account on
the news server. 

-teg

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From: Hussain Chinoy <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 15:26:15 -0500 (CDT)

Hi, everyone.

	We're still using 3.87 on a NeXTstep 3.0 (BSD) system (just in case you 
need to know) and I just discovered the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf 
(or .pinerc) read-message-folder option.

	My question is how can you be sure that the read messages are stored 
in the users home directory?
	When I tried it with this line:

	read-message-folder=~$USER/mail/read-messages       

	Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in [wholepath]' --- 
sometimes the whole path is TOO LARGE for the screen and I thought people 
might get confused if they just saw: 
	'save x messages in /Students/c/ghchinoy/mai ?'

	Alternately, I tried this pine-conf line:

	read-message-folder=mail/read-messages       

	Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in mail/read-messages ?'
	Does this mean that if you had changed your current working 
directory to something else, say /, before invoking pine you'd save all 
your messages to /mail/read-messages instead of the correct 
~user/mail/read-messages?

	I'm a bit confused about where this mail'd go.

	Thanks for any of your help,
	
	Hussain Chinoy
	
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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:22:01 -0700 (PDT)

Hussain,

Pine *never* looks at the "current" directory.  There will be an option 
in Pine 3.90 that will allow it for export and read operations, but not 
for folders.

Thanks for the request!

--DLM

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From: "Henry @(0-0)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 17:02:39 -0700 (PDT)

> same .newsrc from multiple platforms, even if you don't have an account on
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> the news server. 

If I can connect to difference news servers and they do not  have the 
same newsgroups, will I get bogus messages when checking new newsgroups 
for different server after 3.90?  Can I have different .newsrcs for 
different news servers?

=Henry=

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 17:59:09 -0700 (PDT)

> for different server after 3.90?  Can I have different .newsrcs for 

Henry,
The .newsrc file format uses article numbers that are tied to a specific 
server.  At the moment Pine assumes you only have one .newsrc file.

We'll add to the request list the need to be able to specify the path of
the newsrc file, so you could use the -p command line option to point to a
different .pinerc specifying a different .newsrc (as well as news host).

-teg

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From: Chris Unger <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 21:25:04 -0400 (EDT)

I have a suggestion for a new Pine feature. (If this is already 
taken care of, let me know! I can't find out how to do it) 
	I, like many of you, I'm sure, belong to many mailing lists. 3 to 
be exact, (2 active ones and 1 inactive one) What I would like to see is 
a sort the TO: field command line option. That way, I'll get the Emacs 
first, Pine second etc... I love the "+" for personal msgs.
	If anybody adds this feature, please send me a copy of the code 
to use. Thanks...

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