Subject: PC-Pine via PPP

From: Ian Lumb <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 00:51:52 -0400 (EDT)

Greetings:-

Although my efforts to get PC-Pine running via SLIP have been unsuccessful
to date, I have been using PC-Pine via PPP for a few days now. I think
it's pretty incredible that my very modest 286 equipped with a high-speed
modem, allows me to run the Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) packet driver,
and thus become and Internet node and run PC-Pine! 

My only problem seems to be that I keep running out of memory on my 286! 
I assume that PC-Pine runs in conventional memory, and is thus limited by
the famous 640K MS-DOS barrier. I've killed all unecessary TSRs, but there
are still problems. In prticular, I've found that I can reply to a first
message, but that replying to a second one usually results in not enough 
memory errors. 

I would like to know how much memory PC-Pine requires, and if there are 
any other suggestions for reducing memory demands when PC-Pine is 
operating ...

Thx,

Ian.

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Ian Lumb     Internet: <[email-masked]>
Earth & Atmospheric Science, York University
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From: John Lamp <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 14:47:51 +1000 (EST)

Ian,

I run a waffle site, and memory errors can be a problem with that too.
There is a utility called shroom (SHROOM2D.ZIP I think) which writes out
the conventional memory to disk before spawning a new process, and reloads
it on the way back in. This may assist you, if PC-PINE does the same sort
of spawning - many such mailers do. Using shroom, you can get waffle to
run on an XT!

Cheers
John

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT)

Ian,

The minimum free memory for PC-Pine is about 500k.  Below that and you 
are pretty much out of luck.  More will be used if available (within the 
infamous 640k boundaries).  There are also memory fragmentation problems 
that will gradually eat away at the useable memory, so you may need to 
restart Pine periodically.  It should be able to handle more than one 
reply before running out though ;)

Thanks for the request!

--DLM

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