Subject: Commas

From: Philip Hazel <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 09:23:10 +0000 (GMT)

Why won't pine accept commas in file names? They are relatively common in 
file names on Unix... Is there a quoting mechanism that I have overlooked?

Regards,
Philip

--
Philip Hazel                   University Computing Service,
[email-masked]             New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG,
[email-masked]          England.  Phone: +44 223 334714

---

From: Adam J Weitzman <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 10:16:05 -0500 (EST)

> file names on Unix... Is there a quoting mechanism that I have overlooked?

This is news to me. I have been around UNIX for almost 8 years and I have
maybe once or twice only ever seen a filename with a comma in it. But if
you really need to include it, you can always go "To files" after the
"Read File" part and bring it in that way.

I don't know why Pine won't let you tyoe it in, though.

                                        - Adam J Weitzman
                                          INDIVIDUAL, Inc.
                                          [email-masked]

---

From: Matt Simmons <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 12:34:49 -0600 (CST)

> maybe once or twice only ever seen a filename with a comma in it. But if
Have you/do you use RCS?

> I don't know why Pine won't let you tyoe it in, though.
Because pine uses the , as a delimeter between files to be included.  
Thus it thinks input.c,v (the RCS file for input.c) is really a request 
to include input.c and v.

Devoted    _n______________________________________________  _________________
Teri      /   \|[]|""  \    |[]|   |[]|   |[]|   |[]|    / || \    |[]|   |[]|
Polo    ,(_____|  |()_()\___|  |___|  |___|  |___|  |___/  ||  \___|  |___|  |
Fan    <_______|__|_(_)_____|__|___|__|___|__|___|__|______||______|__|___|__|
=========\   Walt Disney World Monorail System             ||
LCA  _____\________________________________________________||_________________
  __/ This highway's in perfect shape.  Quick!         Thank god I'm not a
_/ Break it so we can 'fix' it! -- IDOT Motto              F. I. P. =)

---

From: "John Ladwig" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 14:10:06 CST

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 1994 12:34:49 -0600 (CST), Matt Simmons <[email-masked]> said:

    Matt> On Fri, 11 Feb 1994, Adam J Weitzman wrote:
    >> > Why won't pine accept commas in file names? 

    Matt> Have you/do you use RCS?

*There's* the right question...
 
    >> I don't know why Pine won't let you type it in, though.

    Matt> Because pine uses the , as a delimeter between files to be included.  
    Matt> Thus it thinks input.c,v (the RCS file for input.c) is really a request 
    Matt> to include input.c and v.

Mmm...  Seems a reasonable choice for those *not* used to *NIX, since
it follows mailer recipient semantics, but shell semantics would
suggest whitespace as a delimiter.

What thinkest thou, O Pine developers?

    -jml

---

From: Chris Garrigues <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 15:14:08 -0600 (CST)

> What thinkest thou, O Pine developers?

I'm not a pine developer, but my vote is to require the comma be
quoted, probably with a backslash.  This way non-Unix geeks won't get
screwed by trying to use a comma in a place that is perfectly
reasonable, and Unix geeks will be able to figure out that a backslash
is a good idea.

Chris

--
Chris Garrigues                              (MIME capable) [email-masked]
Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation    +1 512 338 3328
3500 West Balcones Center Drive                     Fax +1 512 338 3838
Austin, TX  78759-6509
USA

---

From: Ed Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 22:56:13 +0800 (TPE)

> "Read File" part and bring it in that way.

	By now you know one of the reason's for a comma in a filename.

	The next question.  Do you try the "To files" suggestion you
made?  It doesn't work either.  

	I agee with an earlier post that the comma should be quoted
via backslash for us *NIX geeks.

Edward M. Greshko			Control Data Taiwan
Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287		6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3
FAX  : +886-2-712-9197			Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C

---

From: John Stumbles <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 14:17:41 GMT

> "Read File" part and bring it in that way.

Whilst we're on the subject (well, sort of...) why doesn't PC-PINE 
understand that # is legal in DOS filenames?

John Stumbles                                       [email-masked]
University of Reading                                              0734 318435
Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

---

From: Adam J Weitzman <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 09:57:49 -0500 (EST)

> 	By now you know one of the reason's for a comma in a filename.

And boy is my face red!

> made?  It doesn't work either.  

Funny, I tried it, and it did work. I used emacs to create a short test
file called hello,goodbye and was successfully able to include it into a
mailing using ^R^T and cursoring to that filename.

                                        - Adam J Weitzman
                                          INDIVIDUAL, Inc.
                                          [email-masked]