Subject: Pine getting address wrong

From: The PenMaster <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 18:02:03 +0000 (GMT)

Greetings,
	I'm new to this maling list, but I have I problem that I thought 
that maybe someone could solve for me. Sorry if its been covered before.

	My e-mail address is [email-masked], but there 
are a quite a few places from which people have tried sending me mail, 
but have had it bounce due to `unknown domain', etc. I could live with 
that problem, because I have discovered that if I use my address as 
[email-masked], then it works from everywhere.

	I used to use Elm as my mailer, and this was fine because it got 
my return address, etc. correct, but I have now switched to Pine 3.89, 
and am experiencing problems. Pine uses the first form of my address.

	I have tried setting the user-domain=[email-masked], 
but Pine puts a `@' inbetween the username and the domain when I post 
something locally (eg I input `user' and Pine completes it to 
`user@[email-masked]'.

	Has anyone got any idea how I could solve this? I don't know what 
it is putting in any of the Reply-To: headers or anything. Would it help 
if I mailed someone so that they could look to see what it is doing? 
Perhaps the next version of pine could have a variable that we can set 
which specifies the complete e-mail address of the user, so that it can 
be sent up manually if neccessary.

	Anyway, I would be very grateful if someone could help.

		Charuuba!

			David Edwards
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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:04:51 -0800 (PST)

David,

The next version of Pine will support the Reply-To: header and possibly a 
mechanism to modify the From: header.  Thanks for the request!

--DLM

|\ |  |\/|  David L. Miller    [email-masked]  (206) 685-6240
|/ |_ |  |  Software Engineer, Pine Development Team   (206) 685-4045 (FAX)
University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing
4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA

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From: Barry Landy <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 23:26:17 +0000 (GMT)

Without checking, I suspect you are hitting a UK problem here. I suspect 
that teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk is not registered in the NRS as a mail 
domain, but is  registered in the DNS. This will have the effect that 
anyone that mails to you directly using smtp will get the mail through; 
any mail that goes through "official gateways" will not.
The Reply-To: feature that is promised for later versions will "cure" the
 problem; alternatively, registering the teaching. etc in the NRS for 
mail (though oxford might have other objections to this).

On the assumption  that physics.ox is properly registered (and that you 
have a suitable mailbox there) you could get PINE to specify your mail 
address as [email-masked] (and indeed you could leave your 
INBOX there as well).

>  Anyway, I would be very grateful if someone could help.

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Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development,
University of Cambridge Computing Service
[email-masked]      0223-334713   +44-223-334713

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From: Neil J Long <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 09:18:53 +0000 (GMT)

HI
It is a major headache for us all - the only way around it is to edit the 
sendmail.cf to force it to use [email-masked] when it generates a 
from: address 

AND
^^^
modify the pine send.c (?) to prevent pine generating a from: line.
(There are 2 sections of code which have to be def'd out).

The sendmail.cf mods are needed for all mailers unless the machine is 
registered outside the .ox.ac.uk domain. The pine mods are to prevent 
pine generating a valid from: line which passes straight through sendmail 
rules.

I have done this for SGI's and HP's here in materials and can offer 
limited advice.

Many people have switched back to using elm and PC/Mac Eudora until Pine 
comes up with a Reply-To: option.

Come on guys, hurry, hurry with the next release - just joking!!

__________________________________________________
Dr Neil J Long			phone: +44 (0) 865 273656
University of Oxford		FAX:   +44 (0) 865 273789
Department of Materials
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From: Barry Landy <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 09:48:35 GMT

We have checked and found a number of problems with mail registration at 
Oxford (ox.ac.uk) which we are communicating directly with postmaster and 
hostmaster at Oxford.

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Barry Landy                        Computer Laboratory:+44 223 334600
Head of Systems and Development    Direct line:        +44 223 334713
University of Cambridge Computing Service
New Museums Site                   Email:[email-masked]
Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG

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From: Philip Hazel <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 11:33:09 +0000 (GMT)

> sendmail.cf to force it to use [email-masked] when it generates a 

Pity, since the % form of source routing is deprecated in the Internet.

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Philip Hazel                   University Computing Service,
[email-masked]             New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG,
[email-masked]          England.  Phone: +44 223 334714