Subject: Re: Saving sent mail

From: Shyela Aberman <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 17:48:32 -0500 (EST)

Hello Folks,
 Working on a SunOS 5.3 (Sol2) system, I want to keep a copy of all
mail I send out. This is easy to do with mail/mush: I add "set record= 
/home/labsha/mail/record" to my .mailrc. However, I have been having
some problems doing the same thing with pine 3.85. I have modified my 
.pinerc so that "default-fcc=/home/labsha/mail/record", and I have
come across some problems when I try to send mail from pine that
puzzle me. When I try to send mail I get the following message:

    Folder "/home/labsha/mail/record" doesn't exist.  Create? (y/n) [y]:

I get this whether or not ~/mail/record actually exists. If I say No:

    [Find of folder outside context: /home/labsha/mail/record]
    [Fcc of message rejected]

Pine doesn't send the message, and dumps me back in the compose screen. 
If I say Yes, and ~/mail/record exists, I get:

    [Can't create folder /home/labsha/mail/record: folder already exists]

Again, pine doesn't send the message, and dumps me back in the compose 
screen. If I say Yes and ~/mail/ record doesn't exist, I then get:

    [Find of folder outside context: /home/labsha/mail/record]
    [Message sent, and copied to "/home/labsha/mail/record".]

So, here are my problems:
1) Why can't pine seem to recognize ~/mail/record, even when it exists?
 a) Is it a problem with incompatible mail formats or something? I 
    wouldn't think so, cuz I can read the same mail file in mail, mush,
    and pine with no problem, but...?
 b) What does "out of context" mean within "Find of folder outside 
    context"? I get that when I try to get pine to recognize ~/mail/record 
    without creating a new file. This seems to be the real problem. Any 
    clues?
2) Why does rejecting the Fcc or inability to create ~/mail/record  mean 
   that pine cannot send the mail?

With the recent/ongoing thread about sent-mail as well as several recent 
system modifications, it occurred to me that this would be a perfect time
to ask Pine-Info and Answer-L. A couple of misc. related things:
1) I don't remember this happening before, so could it be related to the
   OS or the global pine setup (ie, related to whatever system changes
   have just happened)?
2) I would prefer that all my outgoing mail be in a single folder 
   (~/mail/record, if possible), but I suppose renaming it sent-mail
   should theoretically avoid all my current problems. Does anyone know
   a better way to approach my situation?

If someone could explain what pine is doing and why it is doing so, I 
would appreciate it. Also, if you know something better to do, please 
tell me.

thanx,
shy

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 20:17:10 -0800 (PST)

Try setting "default-fcc=record".  Some versions of pine prior to 3.89 had
problems with fully qualified paths for the default-fcc.  Your problems
should also pretty well go away if you upgrade to Pine 3.89... 

Thanks for the report!

--DLM

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