Subject: Request for directory look in passwd file?

From: James Dryfoos <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 16:40:59 -0500

Would/is it be possible to have pine capable of looking up users to send 
mail to in the passwd file?  I.e.  When in compose, I would like to be 
able to bring up a list of all users on the local system with their full 
names and be able to select one as the destination.  It should work in 
similar manner to the personal directory lookup.  It is better however, 
because you would not have to update your own list and you will always 
get an up to date list.  Perhaps you can have a selection to pick from 
personal directory or global directory (on unix it would use passwd).

  -- Jim

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From: Ken Weaverling <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:50:37 -0500 (EST)

The idea of being able to pick local users out of the passwd file is 
excellent, but for a lot of educational sites that use NIS (commercial 
sites would be nuts to use NIS for security reasons, but that is another 
story).

Anyway, yeah. Great idea. Just support NIS if it is done!

> personal directory or global directory (on unix it would use passwd).

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From: "John Ladwig" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 17:04:34 CST

>>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:50:37 -0500 (EST), Ken Weaverling <[email-masked]> said:

    Ken> The idea of being able to pick local users out of the passwd
    Ken> file is excellent, but for a lot of educational sites that
    Ken> use NIS (commercial sites would be nuts to use NIS for
    Ken> security reasons, but that is another story).

    Ken> Anyway, yeah. Great idea. Just support NIS if it is done!

    Ken> On Fri, 18 Feb 1994, James Dryfoos wrote:

    >> Would/is it be possible to have pine capable of looking up
    >> users to send mail to in the passwd file?  I.e.  When in
    >> compose, I would like to be able to bring up a list of all
    >> users on the local system with their full names and be able to
    >> select one as the destination.  

It should *really* be optional, as I can't imagine how it would be
useful for our University-wide systems, each of which has better than
60,000 local users.

Really.

I can just see users paging through 60,000/25 screens full of information.

    -jml

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From: Billy Barron <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 17:11:31 -0600

>Anyway, yeah. Great idea. Just support NIS if it is done!
I was thinking about this the other day.  I think PINE just needs
to make a programming interface.  Then each of us can write the
directory service to meet our own needs.  People with ones of
general interest like this passwd/NIS can submit it to the PINE
team.

I understand how this passwd idea would be good in some environments,
but in mine it is horrible as depending what machine someone was logged
into they would see different people in the addressbook....

-- 
Billy Barron,  Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas
[email-masked]

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:51:27 -0800 (PST)

Pine will be adding support for the IMSP protocol in the not-to-distant 
future.  A significant part of this protocol is devoted to an addressbook 
service.  The proposed c-client extensions for IMSP support include just 
the kind of API you are asking for.  Here is the latest draft announcement:

>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 16:22:34 -0500 (EST)
>From: Chris Newman <[email-masked]>
>To: [email-masked]
>Subject: IMSP API extensions to c-client
>
>I have an alpha release of the IMSP API extensions to c-client available on
>        export.acs.cmu.edu:/pub/cyrus-mail/imsp-api-v1.00a1.tar.gz
>
>This includes the API descriptions, and support for address books and 
>options.
>
>Please see the included README file for more details.
>
>I'd very much appreciate comments/bug-fixes/etc.
>
>                Thanks,
>                - Chris Newman

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--DLM

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From: Ken Weaverling <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 08:51:50 -0500 (EST)

> general interest like this passwd/NIS can submit it to the PINE

Actually, this would really be great. Just simple programming hooks
that would allow us who can program to tailor items into Pine 
without having to modify actual source code in the distribution.

Also, if address book could do expansions, with same user interface
as folders, is "personal addressbook" "system addressbook" etc...