Subject: Extract Messages and keep ALL Headers

From: Sherry Lake <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:08:01 -0500 (EST)

I was wondering if there was a way in pine to extract a message and keep
all headers (that is if you have "full header" display on and extract a
message, I would like all headers saved in the file)?  I would also like
it if there was an option to turn on "keep all headers" in an included
forwarded message.  

Thanks.

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Sherry H. Lake			[email-masked]
Electronic Mail Consultant
George Mason University

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From: Laurence Lundblade <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:53:53 -0500 (EST)

That's actually what save message does.  You can give any file name to 
the save command and Pine will write the message with full headers to 
it.  Save defaults to the ~/mail directory, where export defaults to the 
home directory.  There's a few other differences too, for example save 
locks the target file first. 

Laurence Lundblade                             
  [email-masked]        703-552-2537
     Virginia Tech -- Blacksburg, Virginia 

On Thu, 27 Jan 1994, Sherry Lake wrote:

> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:08:01 -0500 (EST)
> From: Sherry Lake <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Extract Messages and keep ALL Headers
>

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From: David Wall <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 08:02:21 -0800 (PST)

Sherry,
  If you use "S"ave, all the headers are preserved.  So when I need full 
headers I "S"ave to whatever file is appropriate.  To include all those 
headers in a forwarded message you could '^R"ead in the file.
  Pine does have an option to include headers in reply, but you only get 
four lines of headers, as shown in your message below.

--David Wall    Computing & Communications...Client Services  3-8491
                Univ. of Washington  HG-45   [email-masked]

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From: Philip Hazel <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 16:22:28 +0000 (GMT)

> it if there was an option to turn on "keep all headers" in an included

This has proved troublesome to us too. We have suffered some incidents of 
mail spoofing, and the person investigating always says "please send me the 
offending message, including all the headers". The trouble is that it is 
usually inexperienced users who suffer these incidents, and they are just 
the ones who can't even display the headers, let alone forward them...

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Philip Hazel                   University Computing Service,
[email-masked]             New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG,
[email-masked]          England.  Phone: +44 223 334714

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From: Laurence Lundblade <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 11:48:32 -0500 (EST)

I'm not sure this will solve the problem but it's an idea. It's not
currently the default, but if you set enable-forward-as-MIME and have the
user answer "y" to the "forward as MIME" question the message is forwarded
with all it's headers.  The recipient only sees the full headers of the
message if they turn on full headers so it would even be a reasonable
default behavior in an all Pine or all MIME environment.  Hopefully
someday we'll have the ability to reply-to/save/forward messages that are
forwarded in MIME format (the message forward message is like an
attachment). 

Laurence Lundblade