Subject: Enhancement request

From: [email-masked] (Neil J Long)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 13:00:12 +0000 (GMT)

Hi

One thought I had whilst ploughing through old saved mail looking for an 
address was - why is there no easy way to extract the from: address to a 
sort of address book (keeping the subject: line might also prove useful).

I could then trash lots of old email and just keep a list of people I 
have rec'd mail from (possibly even sent to?).

OK, so I could grep through mail folders looking for the headers but pine 
is all about ease-of-use.

Thanks
Neil

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 14:00:56 +0000 (GMT)

Ummm... if you're asking for what I think you're asking, try looking at 
the "T" command (TakeAddr -- you can see it if you use the "O" (Other 
Commands) command) ... this takes the sender's details and adds them to 
your address book (prompting you to confirm the various parts).

						Mike B-)

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From: Mike Roch <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 14:19:14 +0000 (GMT)

> address was - why is there no easy way to extract the from: address to a
If you hit T(ake address) when reading a message, Pine will do this. You 
could put a comment into the "real name" field if it helps (I put 
phone/fax numbers here).

Mike

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From: "Amos A. Gouaux" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 08:41:41 -0600 (CST)

If I'm not mistaken, it almost sounds like you're asking for the ability 
to edit your mail folders from within pine.  Is that about right?

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From: [email-masked] (Neil J Long)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 15:02:47 +0000 (GMT)

Well, partly - I have received a number of emails pointing out the 'T' 
option but while this creates a new address book entry, 3 months later I 
will have no recollection of why that address/nickname was saved.

Even a 'snapshot' of the index list for a given folder would be useful 
since this contains dates and subjects so that the context of the mail is 
retained. It just seems crazy to hang on to mail content without any good 
reason.

I would like to see an address and 'subject' line or something grabbed 
out of the message. Clearly I have not thought this through but I am 
trying to see this from a new-growth viewpoint. I don't want to trigger 
the usual grep vs awk vs perl type script wars that so often happen with 
email lists.

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From: Mike Ramey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 08:03:06 -0800 (PST)

I have previously mentioned to the pine development team that:
  - "Y" while viewing the Addressbook prints the addressbook
  - "Y" while viewing a message prints the message
and
  - "Y" while viewing the folder index -SHOULD- print the folder index
    (reflecting any sorting options that have been selected!)

Also:
  - it should be possible to 'print' to a -FILE-.
    This would allow you to save the folder-index listing, 
    edit & sort it, and even file it as a message in a pine folder.
    (I tried setting my print command to both '> z.pine-prt' and
    '>> zz.pine-prt'; both of them created zero-length files 
    in -MY CURRENT WORKING DIRECTORY- (not in my home directory)!

This brings up a related point (which I have mentioned before):
  - I would like the "E"xtract command to create files
    in -MY CURRENT WORKING DIRECTORY- (not my home directory).
    Is this possible?
-mr

On Mon, 6 Dec 1993, Neil J Long wrote:
> out of the message.

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 08:26:05 -0800 (PST)

We plan to add at least a comment field to the addressbook.  Alternatively,
we are just starting to discuss a common addressbook format to be shared
between Pine and a few other applications (e.g.  XLview). 

|\ |  |\/|  David L. Miller    [email-masked]  (206) 685-6240
|/ |_ |  |  Software Engineer, Pine Development Team   (206) 685-4045 (FAX)
University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing
4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 08:32:34 -0800 (PST)

Mike,

We recognize the need for a capability to print the folder index.  The issue
of how to accomplish this is still open... 

To print to a file, try 'cat > printfile'.  

Thanks for the suggestions!

--DLM

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 10:13:09 -0800 (PST)

Mike,

I claim that a "Y" while viewing the folder index SHOULD NOT print the
entire folder index, any more than save, export, forward, or reply should
pertain to the entire index.  These commands (and print) apply to the
*current* --highlighted-- message, rather than all messages. 

This observation leaves two questions:
  -How does one print the entire index?  (I'm not sure how to solve this,
   but we'll give it some more thought.)
  -Is the fact that "Y" in the addressbook prints all entries rather
   than the *current/highlighted* entry a U.I. design bug that should
   be fixed?  (Probably not... I'm just acknowledging the inconsistency.)
   Same issue with printing the Folder List...

David has answered the question on printing.

Re saving/exporting to Current, rather than Home, directory: expect to
see an option to enable this in an upcoming release.

-teg

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From: Mike Ramey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 10:15:50 -0800 (PST)

> *current* --highlighted-- message, rather than all messages. 

I think "Y" to print the index makes perfect sense.  See below.
It -does- require the user to view the message before printing it.  OK.

>    Same issue with printing the Folder List...

I think "Y" to print the [entire] Addressbook also makes perfect sense.
I think if I needed hardcopy of just one entry, I would use my pencil.

> David has answered the question on printing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to.  An earlier [now deleted] message 
said something about 'cat ...' which didn't make sense to me.  I ignored 
it.  How do we use 'cat' in pine?

> see an option to enable this in an upcoming release.

Thank you for this.

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 10:57:00 -0800 (PST)

> It -does- require the user to view the message before printing it.  OK.

If we did this, we'd have to eliminate the save, export, forward, reply,
and delete commands from the Folder Index view, and require the user to be
in the Message Text view to perform any of these operations --in order to be
consistent with the Print behavior you are proposing.  I'm unwilling to do
this, but as I said, we *will* look for a way to print the Index at some 
point.

-teg

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From: Richard Lee <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 13:18:07 -0500 (CDT)

> >    but we'll give it some more thought.)

	Well, there's always the main menu.  Maybe if you press "P" in 
the main menu with the index highlighted, you'd get that printed.  I 
don't like that solution because other things don't work from the main 
menu that way.  But there could be a extra choice at the main menu that 
would let you print (or rename or save etc.) the index of any folder.

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Dr. Richard Lee                         [email-masked]
Department of Philosophy Old Main 318   [email-masked]
University of Arkansas                  phone: 501-575-5826
Fayetteville, AR 72701