Subject: Newsgroup

From: Henry Kuo <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 12:45:52 -0800 (PST)

Hi! Everyone:

How can I read newsgroup by pine?

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 13:16:08 -0800 (PST)

Henry,

You need to specify the news server in your .pinerc file.  Something like

news-collections=*{server/nntp}[*]

where "server" is the name of the NNTP server you want to use.  You will 
also need a .newsrc file as generated by another newsreader like rrn or 
nn.

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From: "Isaias Callejas Mancilla." <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 19:04:22 -0600 (CST)

> > ---------oOO----^---OOo-------

  That's O.K..
	In my ".pinerc" configuration file I have got it :

# news-collections specifies one or more collections of news groups.
# News collection syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[]
# Examples:
# news-collections=News *[]   <-- if your login host carries news
# news-collections=Subscribed-Groups *{news.u.washington.edu/nntp}[]
news-collections=News *{news.u.washington.edu/imapd}[]
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  I haven't nntp yet...then type "imapd"--------|

  When PINE show me the folder's screen, exist a line about remote 
conection :

      " [ Select Here to See Expanded List ]"

Then I press <return> on it and PINE connect to news.u.washington.edu, but
ask me for a "login" and "password"....
   I don't know what type!!!

 Pardon if is it obvious... but I don't know what type...or 
news.u.washington.edu is not a server for "news"???

Than's in advance... :(

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 23:26:21 -0800 (PST)

Isaias,
  "news.u.washington.edu" is only an example; it is not available to you
for news access.  You will need to find a news server (perhaps from
your Internet provider) that you can use.

Chances are you really do want to use nntp, since it is easier to find 
news servers that run nntp than those that run IMAPd and will let you 
have an account on them.  (Unlike nntp, IMAPd uses a newsrc file on 
the same machine as the news database.)

Remember that *for now* you must run another newsreader to initially
create a suitable newsrc file.  Once you have successfully read news via
some other program, presumably using nntp, it should be easy to get Pine
to do the same. 

-teg

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From: Richard Lee <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 21:45:50 -0500 (CDT)

When you consider whether to beef up the Composer editor in pine 
(I use 3.87) you might consider putting in cursor movements to the top 
and bottom of the file.  I find myself wanting to do that often and I 
don't think there are commands for doing that (as there are--as well as 
for everything else--in emacs).  Maybe this is your way of encouraging 
short, to-the-point, mail messages instead of ones hundreds of lines 
long.  ;-)
	To move to back to the top of a mail file I postpone and then 
select composer again to get back into it--I'm put right back into the 
first header.  To get to the end I could do a "where is" for my 
signature.  But these are work-arounds for commands I miss.  (No, I don't 
care to move back to vi, thanks.)
	Maybe there are strings that could be entered in reply to the ^W 
prompt (perhaps ^Y and ^V, respectively) to goto the top or bottom of the 
mail message?  That wouldn't take more command characters and would be 
easily avoided by those who don't want to learn any more complexities, 
yet put this feature (goto top and goto bottom) in a natural place.  
These choices could even appear on the bottom of the screen when ^W is 
pressed.  Just an idea.
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University of Arkansas                  phone: 501-575-5826
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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 21:52:38 -0800 (PST)

Richard,
Top and bottom cmds are definitely coming... We miss them, too!
(Notwithstanding the social engineering benefit of the status quo
that you point out :)

In fact, sub-cmds under ^W is a very probable solution.

-teg