Subject: Re: Message-of-the-Day

From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 07:00:37 -0800 (PST)

This is definitely on the list... we need it too!

-teg

On Thu, 4 Nov 1993, Barry Landy wrote:

> A feature that we are missing for our PC-PINE users is the ability to 
> tell them things about the current service. Examples might be:
> 
> Mail server crash - messages sent between a/b/c and d/e/f might be lost
> Relay broken: messages to EARN are currently being rejected
> 
> Users who logon to a system will get such things.
>  
> Can this be put onto a wishlist, please? 
> Obviously the text itself must be on the system which has the imap 
> daemon, so it is not totally trivial to implement!
> 
> =======================================================================
> Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development,
> University of Cambridge Computing Service
> [email-masked]      0223-334713   +44-223-334713
> 
> 
>

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 09:08:10 -0800 (PST)

As an interesting kludge, you might try setting

incoming-folders=Message-Of-The-Day	{imapserver}/etc/motd

This will give you an incoming folder, called Message-Of-The-Day and 
containing a single "message" which has /etc/motd as the body.  This 
does require an imapd with the phile driver installed.  Note that we 
do not have alot of practical experience with the phile driver yet...

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From: Barry Landy <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 17:41:13 +0000 (GMT)

> incoming-folders=Message-Of-The-Day	{imapserver}/etc/motd

Interesting thought, but not really a practical possibility.

We are in **production** which means that there are a large number of 
PINERC files out there on PCs, and we cannot go around changing them all, 
even in the cases where we can find them (such as those on our Novell net).
Of course, if we had a MotD, then we could put such a message on it :-) 

Still, we might experiment with that idea.

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 09:45:44 -0800 (PST)

The real plan is for IMAPd to notice the existence of some file (not 
necessarily /etc/motd, but maybe) and then send an unsolicited reply to 
the client which would show up on Pine's message line.

This has the advantage that it does not require client configuration; it
has the disadvantage that the message must be small and may be fleeting... 
Ultimately we may want to have a combination of both strategies, where
there might even be a future version of Pine that adds something to
existing pinerc files to allow easy access to a "system" folder...  These
are just random thoughts while I'm between sessions at IETF; we have not
yet experimented with any of these mechanisms in real life. 

-teg

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From: Alex Tang <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 00:13:38 -0500 (EST)

Hi.  I remember hearing about a bug in pine that would leave crashed imap
sessions up, running and increasing the load....well, i was wondering if
anyone knows why this is happening?  I noticed on the machine i use most
often, that there are two that have been running for a while (the shorter has
been running for about 24 hours, the other, i don't know how long...)....

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE   SIZE   RES STATE   TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
29500 melser    79    0  1200K  268K run   794:12 43.03% 42.97% pine.new
14652 tsobo     79    0  1192K  192K run  1008:10 41.85% 41.80% pine.new
			^^^^^^            ^^^^^^^
YOW!

...alex...

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From: Alex Tang <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 01:02:53 -0500 (EST)

Whoops, looks like i did a wrong reply...i hate it when I do that....

Sorry folks, the previous message was meant to be a direct post to the 
pine mailing list, with the subject "Hung IMAP processes"

...alex...

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 22:29:26 -0800 (PST)

Pine versions 3.85 through 3.87 have a bug that can cause runaway 
processes if a connection is lost when waiting at a prompt in the 
composer.  This bug will be fixed in Pine 3.88.