Subject: Re: Ascii printing in Pine

From: Joel Ness <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 16:12:47 -0600

>   NCSA Telnet v2.5x for the Macintosh DOES understand the
>   ASCII printing escape sequences. When you select Print
>   ('Y') from pine, you should get the normal print dialog
>   box. If you Cancel the print dialog, you should get the
>   option to spool the job for later printing.
>   
>     /  Andrew B. Sweger
>   [email-masked]  //  Manager, Computer Support
>   Group
>    \\  Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30  (206)
>   543-2461
>    //  UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
>    /   Seattle, WA 98195                     (206)
>   685-0610 (FAX)

Hmm, that would be great. I've got the latest NCSA Telnet and it still doesn't
seem to work (LaserWriter driver 8.0 and a LaserWriter). The printer config
screen in Pine says the following:

1. Printer attached to IBM PC or compatible, MacIntosh
   This may not work with all attached printers, and will depend on the
   terminal emulation/communications software in use. It is known to work
   with Versaterm Pro on Macs, and WRQ Reflections on PC's and with the
   latest UW version of NCSA telnet for either, and probably Kermit too.
          Command: attached-to-ansi

Does UW have some further modified versions of Telnet for the Mac? I know that
Telnet 2.6 is in the works from NCSA, but I don't believe it's 
released yet.

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Joel Ness
UMD Information Services
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(218) 726-8841

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From: "Andrew Sweger" <[email-masked]>
Date: 27 Oct 1993 12:30:39 -0800

NCSA Telnet v2.5x for the Macintosh DOES understand the ASCII printing escape
sequences. When you select Print ('Y') from pine, you should get the normal
print dialog box. If you Cancel the print dialog, you should get the option to
spool the job for later printing.

  /  Andrew B. Sweger                      [email-masked]
 //  Manager, Computer Support Group
 \\  Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30  (206) 543-2461
 //  UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
 /   Seattle, WA 98195                     (206) 685-0610 (FAX)
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To: [email-masked]
From: Joel Ness on Wed, Oct 27, 1993 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Ascii printing in Pine

Local printing requires that your communication program be able to handle the
excape sequences that Pine sends and then route the text to a printer. The Pine
docs say that this is possible on the Mac with some comm programs (I think they
mention VersaTerm, and it looks like Microphone works, too). I know that Telnet
won't work.

Telnet does allow you to select text on the screen and then print the
selection.
Unfortunately, Pine does it's scrolling in a way that doesn't let Telnet
capture
text that has "scrolled past". Thus you can't scroll back through your Telnet
window and select more than one screenful of your message (for printing or
copying). This is one of the few advantages of elm and the reason some of our
users haven't switched to Pine. 

I don't think this lack of scrollback capture is a Pine "bug", I think it's
just
related to how tightly integrated the interface is.

>   I dial in occasionally from my Mac at home using
>   Microphone and print to a laserwriter with no probs. I
>   think it is your software.
>   
>   Brian Williams			Automation Manager
>   Multnomah County Library  	801 SW 10th  Portland, OR
>   97205
>   (503)248-5227 (v) (503)248-5226 (f)
>   [email-masked]
>   
>   
>   
>   On Wed, 27 Oct 1993, Mahbuba Ferdousi wrote:
>   
>   > 
>   > Hi!
>   > 
>   > I have a question on Pine. we are trying to print from
>   a Mac using Telnet
>   > 2.5 and an Imagewriter attached to it directly to the
>   Phone line. I used
>   > the option in Pine "attached to ansii" and tried to
>   print, it tells me it
>   > is printing, but nothing comes out. Print selection
>   works. Do you have any
>   > suggestions for me?? Are other people able to print??
>   >