Subject: inboxes

From: Jack Churchill <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 17:24:12 +1000 (EST)

Some time ago there was a discussion on ideas to discourage users leaving
their read mail in the inbox.  Would you leave your real mail in your
letter box after reading it?  As a low priority, since I know the pine
team are busy with other more important things, is it possible to have the
option to force all read mail to be moved automatically to the
"saved-messages" folder? 

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 01:21:11 -0700 (PDT)

Pine 3.87 has an option to specify a read-messages-folder, to which mail 
is moved after it is read.

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From: "Michael A. Crowley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 18:00:53 -0400 (EDT)

>   Jack N. Churchill                         | [email-masked]

As an option that could be set either by the user or manager, that
would be like one Berkeley mail has had that saved messages to "mbox".
As a style, however, it can result in people reading mail, not deleting
that mail, and forgetting about it because it goes to another folder.  
Leaving it in the system inbox can encourage people to specifically
delete or save messages, and I believe that more messages are thus
appropriately deleted.

Mike

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From: Jack Churchill <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 09:04:38 +1000 (EST)

> delete or save messages, and I believe that more messages are thus

Yes, I had discussions which went along the same kind of reasoning about
the limitations of having read mail moved to another folder.  I suppose we
can't have everything but I still like to handle the inbox like real mail,
anyone who wants to read their real mail has to remove it from their mail
box at home or the office, read it and file it away (includes the rubbish
bin).  Unfortunately, a lot of people don't follow your (and my) nice
habbit of regularly cleaning up the inbox. What better way is there to
force people to clean out their mail than if they reach their disk quota
limit if their read mail is automatically moved to another folder?  The
same happens to me if I don't file away my real mail for more than a week
- my desk starts to look like a rubbish tip and I can't do any work. 
Also, I prefer just one person to suffer disk quota problems than all of
them suffer disk space problems as is the current situation if the
/var/spool/mail area gets filled with bloated inboxes. 

I have in mind to install a cron jobs that will check everyones
"read-messages" folder, their quotas and other things and send a reminder
message about cleaning out their folder(s) before a dangerous level is
reached.  If they want to leave any of their mail after the cleanup in the
"read-messages" folder instead of filing them into appropriate folders
then that's their decision.  That sought of duplicates the
"saved-messages" folder.