Subject: forwarding with full headers

From: Eran Lachs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 16:12:13 +0300 (IDT)

Old-growth let's you view the message's full headers. Any way to forward
a message with it's full headers ?

Eran Lachs   ([email-masked])
System Group
Ben Gurion University Computation Center
Beer Sheva, Israel

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From: Adam Garrett <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 06:45:31 -0700 (PDT)

Eran,

I usually use the 'save to folder' command (not export) to save message as
a file in my home directory, then I just forward message as an attachment. 
This way the full headers will be included. 

Adam R. Garrett
University of Washington Libraries     INTERNET: [email-masked]
352 Suzzallo Library, FM-25            PHONE:    (206) 543-8843
Seattle, WA  98195                     FAX:      (206) 685-8049

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From: Laurence Lundblade <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 10:06:03 -0700 (PDT)

There's a really neat way to do this!  If you put Pine in old-growth 
mode, that is set feature-level=old-growth in your .pinerc, then when you 
forward mail you will be asked if you want to forward in MIME format.  If 
you say yes then the message will be forwarded as a MIME attachment with 
full headers. 

What's really nice is that when the message is received it is displayed 
without the full headers showing, but you can give the "h" command (also 
activated in old-growth mode) and see the full header of the included 
message. 

In the future we expect that you'll be able to reply to, forward and save 
in a folder the *forward* message itself.

LL

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From: [email-masked] (Elmar Kurgpold)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 93 13:09:54 PDT

Original question:
>      	Is there a way I can set my keyboard to make the
>      	delete key work like the delete key.  Right now it
>      	works like the backspace!

Response:
> 
> One way might be:
> "stty erase ^Vdelete"   i.e. type control-V and then the delete key.
> If that works then put that in her ".login" (for csh) or in her
> .profile (for sh or ksh)
>      	
>      I'd like to do that too!  She is using PC-NFS 4.0a and telnetting into a S
>     un4.
>      Can someone tell me how to map the ^D function to the delete key?
> 
> Do you know that control-D already has a purpose in Unix ? If you don't
> mind losing that usage that then try
> "stty erase ^V^D"   i.e. type control-V and then control-D.
> 
> -Mike Corrigan
> 

Thanks for the suggestion Mike, but I was already aware of those settings.  I
have the habit of not being explicit in my first post of a question!  The
control-D function I was speaking of is specifically how it works in the
default compose mode in Pine.  The stty settings don't seem to affect this.
Anyway, the control-D erases characters to the right of the cursor, as opposed
to both the backspace and delete keys, which erase to the left.  So what we
would like to do is use the delete key in the compose mode to erase characters
to the the right instead of the left.  Hows that?

	Elmar

In the technical notes there is some information about remapping keys within Pine

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From: "Michael J. Corrigan" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 15:56:09 -0700

Oh. Hmm. What I read in the technical notes is that pine/pico does not
provide the kind of key binding reconfigurability required to do what
you are asking.

The only way it can be done is within "the terminal" i.e. by causing
the key you want to use to actually emit the character that pine/pico
expects.  You have to bind the delete key so it emits a control-D.
Only in some terminal situations is this possible. Two common situations
where I think it is possible are when using an X-terminal (keymodmap? or
something) and with MS-Kermit. Possibly NCSA telnet can rebind your
keyboard also.

If you are using PC-NFS as a telnet client then it would be up to PC-NFS
to give this ability - about which I know nothing. Telnet itself
does not normally give this ability - although it could conceivably.
Possibly somewhere in DOS.

-Mike

     Thanks for the suggestion Mike, but I was already aware of those settings.
      I
     have the habit of not being explicit in my first post of a question!  The
     control-D function I was speaking of is specifically how it works in the
     default compose mode in Pine.  The stty settings don't seem to affect this
    .
     Anyway, the control-D erases characters to the right of the cursor, as opp
    osed
     to both the backspace and delete keys, which erase to the left.  So what w
    e
     would like to do is use the delete key in the compose mode to erase charac
    ters
     to the the right instead of the left.  Hows that?
     
     	Elmar

     In the technical notes there is some information about remapping keys with
    in Pine

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From: Laurence Lundblade <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 17:09:22 -0700 (PDT)

Here's something send to me as a possible solution for PC's some time ago:

LL

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Date: 11 Jun 1993 16:00:16 0400
From: Barbara Vaughan <[email-masked]>
To: Laurence Lundblade <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard and Richer Header Wanted (Return-Receipt-To:)

There is a solution on the PC side that may work.  A tsr program called
newkey, I think, will remap any DOS key to any other key sequence.  It's
shareware and can be found on the Simtel archive.  If you want these keys
to function in Pico and have no other Unix applications where you want
them to function, you can run a .bat file that remaps the keys to their
Pico equivalent, establishes the Unix connection, and when the connection
ends, resets the keys to their DOS settings.  I got this program and had
it working fine with telnet connections, but the asking price of (I think)
$25 per PC was too steep for our budget, so we dropped the idea. 
Basically, you made a little file containing English-like commands telling
newkey that you wanted "home" remapped to "cntrla", which meant that when
you were in pico, home went to the beginning of the line.  Unlike other
remapping programs, it's independent of your comm program.  As far as your
comm program knows, you really just hit cntrl-a, not home.  With regard to
cntrl-arrow keys, these functions don't exist in pine, so there's nothing
to remap them to.