Subject: Re: more on PC-PINE ...

From: [email-masked] (Alex M. Chan)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 93 22:07:48 -0700

We are also looking for a version of pine that would allow people
to compose and read message off-line and use the "uucp" program
to have the mail transfered to other hosts. Of course using SLIP
PPP or other method is nice, but it is not necesssary.

I am wondering if there would be a version of PC PINE in the future
that would support this in the future. (A version for the MAC would
be nice too.)

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 08:40:05 -0700 (PDT)

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> PPP or other method is nice, but it is not necesssary.
We have someone looking into this...

> that would support this in the future. (A version for the MAC would
PC PINE does run on a MAC!!!  Crank up SoftPC, connect the MAC modem to 
COM1, start packet drivers (EtherSLIP), and you are ready to roll with 
PC-pine!  A MAC/SoftPC ethernet version would be nice, but we can't find 
any packet drivers for this ...

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From: Jason Hough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT)

If you will notice in my message, as well as the one attached, the signature is
inserted before the text of the included message. Is there a switch or something in Pine
that will append the signature at the end of the included message?

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On Mon, 19 Jul 1993, David L Miller wrote:

>  On Sun, ....

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From: Laurence Lundblade <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 10:23:43 -0700 (PDT)

Yes, you can add "old-style-reply=yes" to your .pinerc and the signature 
will come at the end.  The idea is that having the "reply" or new text 
at the top with the past references at the bottom is more readable than 
the old conventional way of doing it. 

LL

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From: Adam J Weitzman <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 13:27:25 -0400 (EDT)

> the old conventional way of doing it. 

By the way, who decided this? I think the old-style reply is at least 100x
more readable than the "new" way, maily because (a) you can get the
context of the message being replied to much easier than having to flip
between the bottom and top of the message all the time, (b) it
encourages people to edit the quoted text to only leave what's important
as opposed to just leaving the whole thing at the bottom, which saves
bandwidth, and (c) if you have a message with many points you want to
respond to, it facilitates going into the middle of the message and
putting your points there, rather than collecting them all in one place
where it's sometimes hard to figure out what's being responded to.

Thank goodness they have a setting for it, or I don't think I'd be using
Pine at all.

                                        - Adam J Weitzman
                                          INDIVIDUAL, Inc.
                                          [email-masked]

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From: Jim Davis <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 13:13:06 -0700 (MST)

On Mon, 19 Jul 1993, Adam J Weitzman wrote:

> (b) it
> bandwidth

Absolutely. Also, how do you know some new text doesn't follow the old
quoted text at the bottom?  I end up scanning the old message (bloated sig
and all) again anyway. 

> Thank goodness they have a setting for it, or I don't think I'd be using

I'll second that.  As much as I like pine, if the old-style-reply option
goes away, I'm freeing up some disk space. 
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Jim Davis               | "He gave me so many flowers I thought it was an
[email-masked]   |   allergy test." -- Clarissa Darling

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From: "Jason R. Thorpe" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 20:34:23 -0700 (PDT)

> that will append the signature at the end of the included message?

Yeah...Set the OLD-STYLE-REPLY (sp?) flag to YES in .pinerc...

Later...

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