Subject: pine (pico) enhancement request

From: [email-masked] (Seppo Kallio)
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 10:42:57 +0200

1. The vt100 and vt200 terminals have select, insert, remove  keys. They
   are easy to use. pine (pico) should work with them. The C-k is  C-u
   not enough

2. There could be some Do-key and some extra commands with english words
   Compare to MAX/VMS eve (tpu) editor. It has some direct keys
   to do mos editing - but there is alo the do + english word command
   It is easy for people to learn. I do not mean the Do key on VT200.
   It could be any key in princible. 

3. In Address book the commands are a little complicated. There are

? Help       M Main Menu  T AddToList   - Prev Pg     A Add         D Delete
             S CreateList L Print   SPACE Next Pg     E Edit        W Where is

Why is there two types of lists? I see only one type actually:

nickname,comment,list of user address(es)

If there is more than one name in the "list" it is a list.

Maybe there is some programming (mail system) technical reason, but why
irritate users with it?

After this you need few simple commands:

1. create new nicname
2. add more addresses to the nicname (the line cursor is pointing)
3. edit (the field cursor is pointing, address, nicname, name)
4. print address book
5. delete (the field cursor is pointing, address,nicname,...)

I think in elm there is only one type of address book entry. Why have you
added one more? 
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From: "David L. Miller" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 10:19:00 -0700 (PDT)

>    are easy to use. pine (pico) should work with them. The C-k is  C-u
Not all terminals support these features.  One of the key objectives of
the pine design was to make it consistent for everyone.  I suppose that
the above functionality could be turned on with function-key support
though.  

>    It could be any key in princible. 
Another objective of Pine is to keep it as simple as possible.  If you
start adding a bunch of extended commands, you would be better off to just
use emacs...
 
> Maybe there is some programming (mail system) technical reason, but why
There are not two types of lists.  There are single entries and
distribution lists.  Although I suppose you could make single entries a
list of one, it makes more sense to me to distinguish between them.  Our
users, most of whom are novices, seem to have no trouble with the way
it is set up now...
 
> 5. delete (the field cursor is pointing, address,nicname,...)
Where does this differ from what is there now?