From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 21:23:51 -0500
From: "David L. Aldridge" <dlac@aldridge.com>
Organization: The Aldridge Company
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Fax Cover
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello... Anyone home?

Please forgive my posting this question for a second time.  The only response I
received from the first posting was from another guy with the same question.

With reference to
Q36: How do I create a fax cover page template?
of the FAQ
http://www.vix.com/hylafax/FAQ/Q36.html

The answer "(From Randy Davis)" beginning with the 5th paragraph is clear and
works as advertised.

It does not address the /comments issue however.

I cannot seem to get the comments macro to work and nothing on this page or the
rest of the FAQ addresses it.

If Randy Davis is out there, perhaps I could impose on him to add the special
case of comments to his otherwise concise instructions.

In Randy's absence, I would appreciate help from anyone who has done it.
Regards
Dave 
--
David L. Aldridge
The Aldridge Company 281.368.0166 (fax: 281.368.0381)
http://www.aldridge.com/
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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 11:32:42 +1000
From: Damian Ivereigh <damian@cisco.com>
Organization: Cisco Systems Inc
To: "David L. Aldridge" <dlac@aldridge.com>
CC: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Fax Cover
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi David,

What seems to be the problem? Do you just get blank or garbage? I can
send you my cover page which works, however I don't use the postscript
routine to chop up the lines, since it doesn't handle '\n' properly
(however it does work otherwise). Instead I use the comments1, comments2
fields and have fixed the code so that it works with '\n'. I did post
the patch to the list, but I am not sure that the maintainer picked it
up.

Does the standard CGI cover page work? I think we should replace the
standard cover page with a more generic one, so that people who are not
postscript savvy at least get something useful.

I'll post the patch again if you want.

Damian
  
David L. Aldridge wrote:
> 
> Hello... Anyone home?
> 
> Please forgive my posting this question for a second time.  The only response I
> received from the first posting was from another guy with the same question.
> 
> With reference to
> Q36: How do I create a fax cover page template?
> of the FAQ
> http://www.vix.com/hylafax/FAQ/Q36.html
> 
> The answer "(From Randy Davis)" beginning with the 5th paragraph is clear and
> works as advertised.
> 
> It does not address the /comments issue however.
> 
> I cannot seem to get the comments macro to work and nothing on this page or the
> rest of the FAQ addresses it.
> 
> If Randy Davis is out there, perhaps I could impose on him to add the special
> case of comments to his otherwise concise instructions.
> 
> In Randy's absence, I would appreciate help from anyone who has done it.
> Regards
> Dave
> --
> David L. Aldridge
> The Aldridge Company 281.368.0166 (fax: 281.368.0381)
> http://www.aldridge.com/
> Powered by Pentium/FreeBSD/Apache - Because it works.

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 21:55:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: Bob Worthy <bworthy@worthy.com>
To: Damian Ivereigh <damian@cisco.com>
cc: "David L. Aldridge" <dlac@aldridge.com>, flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Fax Cover
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Damian Ivereigh wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
> What seems to be the problem? Do you just get blank or garbage? I can

	I had same or similar problem.  Got blanks, no garbage.  I've 
been hoping for a solution as well.  Thanks.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:15:19 +1000
From: Damian Ivereigh <damian@cisco.com>
Organization: Cisco Systems Inc
To: Bob Worthy <bworthy@worthy.com>
CC: "David L. Aldridge" <dlac@aldridge.com>, flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Fax Cover - no comments
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

What options are you giving to sendfax? Don't forget that

sendfax -c "some comments" -d <number>

is not the same as

sendfax -d <number> -c "some comments"

Once sendfax gets the '-d' it uses all the options up until that point,
then continues on. This allows you to give different stuff to different
faxes.

Damian

Bob Worthy wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Damian Ivereigh wrote:
> 
> > Hi David,
> >
> > What seems to be the problem? Do you just get blank or garbage? I can
> 
>         I had same or similar problem.  Got blanks, no garbage.  I've
> been hoping for a solution as well.  Thanks.

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Subject: flexfax: Problems putting fax spool on mounted disk
To: flexfax@sgi.com (Hylafax Mailing List)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 13:27:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

	I need to find more room for the fax spool. I am runing on HP-UX 9.10
	and I originally installed Hylafax on the root disk in /usr/spool/fax.

	I tried changing /usr/spool/fax/docq to a symbolic link to a place with
	more space. This failed, and in retrospect it mad sense that it would
	given that Hylafax runs in a chroot'ed environment.

	So next I mounted a disk at /usr/spool/fax, and restred all the files
	that had been there. All permisions and all look corect, but when I try
	to fax something, I get an error message about not being able to create
	a file in client/* . 

	Any ide what I am doing wrong here?


-- 
Stan Brown     stanb@netcom.com                                    770-996-6955
Factory Automation Systems
Atlanta Ga.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
	minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a
	16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit
	microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit
	of competition.
-
(c) 1998 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Subject: flexfax: Troubles with fax spool directory on mounted drive
To: flexfax@sgi.com (Hylafax Mailing List)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:58:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

	I am trying to make Hylafax work with the fax spool directory
	(/usr/spool/fax in my case) on a mounted drive. I am having trouble
	with this.

	Is anyne else doing this? If anyone has it working, I would like to
	hear from you. Just knowing thet it *can* work will be a help.

	Thanks.

-- 
Stan Brown     stanb@netcom.com                                    770-996-6955
Factory Automation Systems
Atlanta Ga.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
	minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a
	16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit
	microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit
	of competition.
-
(c) 1998 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:50:38 +1200
From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
To: Stan Brown <stanb@awod.com>
cc: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Troubles with fax spool directory on mounted drive
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Stan Brown wrote:

> 	I am trying to make Hylafax work with the fax spool directory
> 	(/usr/spool/fax in my case) on a mounted drive. I am having trouble
> 	with this.

Some UNIXes have a bug with mounted file-systems. Umount the drive and
make sure that the permissions on the umounted directory is 777. Then
mount the drive and set the mounted directory permissions to whatever
you want them to be.
--
Jonathan Chen            |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
                         |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 15:26:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Stan Brown <stanb@awod.com>
Cc: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Troubles with fax spool directory on mounted drive
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Stan Brown wrote:

> 	I am trying to make Hylafax work with the fax spool directory
> 	(/usr/spool/fax in my case) on a mounted drive. I am having trouble
> 	with this.
> 
> 	Is anyne else doing this? If anyone has it working, I would like to
> 	hear from you. Just knowing thet it *can* work will be a help.

The $SPOOLDIR/etc directory has several devices installed. These
cannot be NFS mounted, but must be on the local disk.  There are also
several FIFO's in $SPOOLDIR for the faxq and modems, that must be on
local disk.

It is possible, I think, to pick and choose directories to mount from 
an NFS server. $SPOOLDIR/recvq and other document holding directories,
for example, could be NFS imported.

			Nico Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:21:49 -0800 (AKDT)
From: Arthur Corliss <corliss@sinbad.net>
To: FlexFax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Rules by telephone number. . .
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Greetings:

I've been using Hylafax for awhile, now, in my workplace up in Anchorage, Alaska.  :-)  Running off of a Slackware Linux box, and running like a champ.  Recently, however, we've run into a small problem.

One of our in house programs is a rather brain dead little app that decides to ignore specified page ranges.  Because these faxes are going to our competitor (we're in the telecommunications business, among other things), we can't allow those multiple pag
es to print.  Debugging that piece of crap Windows program isn't an option, since we're working full bore towards replacing it, anyway, with a Remedy system.

Temporarily, I've modified the ps2fax script to use the psselect tool (part of a postcript tools tarball I found on sunsite.unc.edu) to extract only the first page, and render that.  The downside of this is that we can no longer fax anything longer than o
ne page, should we have some other place to send it.

Has anyone been able to produce a by telephone number rules kit that allows some sort of selective processing?   I noticed that ps2fax does have what looked to be an unimplemented -m option that allows one to select the number of pages to print.  Using ps
select, it would be easy enough to enable that, but I would still need to able to pass some of those arguments to ps2fax conditionally, depending upon the number.

If anyone has had to perform any hacks like this, I'd love to hear about it.  Thanks.  :-)

	--Arthur Corliss
	  "Live Free or Die--the Only Way to Live" (NH State Motto)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:32:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Arthur Corliss <corliss@sinbad.net>
Cc: FlexFax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Rules by telephone number. . .
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Arthur Corliss wrote:

> I've been using Hylafax for awhile, now, in my workplace up in Anchorage, Alaska.  :-)  Running off of a Slackware Linux box, and running like a champ.  Recently, however, we've run into a small problem.
> 
> One of our in house programs is a rather brain dead little app that decides to ignore specified page ranges.  Because these faxes are going to our competitor (we're in the telecommunications business, among other things), we can't allow those multiple p
ag
> es to print.  Debugging that piece of crap Windows program isn't an option, since we're working full bore towards replacing it, anyway, with a Remedy system.


Wait: The Windows program's print handling ignores the selection of which
pages to handle? Gack.

> Temporarily, I've modified the ps2fax script to use the psselect tool (part of a postcript tools tarball I found on sunsite.unc.edu) to extract only the first page, and render that.  The downside of this is that we can no longer fax anything longer than
 o
> ne page, should we have some other place to send it.

Hmm. Why not translate the file to TIFF, then use the "tiffcp" tool on
it to split up the file and select the desired pages? Or is the file
wastefully large to handle this way? Or can you get into the ghostscript
options and pull the pages that way (since ps2fax uses ghostscript?)

It's an interesting problem...

			Nico Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 21:15:38 -0800 (AKDT)
From: Arthur Corliss <corliss@sinbad.net>
To: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
cc: FlexFax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Rules by telephone number. . .
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:32:56 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
> To: Arthur Corliss <corliss@sinbad.net>
> Cc: FlexFax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
> Subject: Re: flexfax: Rules by telephone number. . .
> 
> Wait: The Windows program's print handling ignores the selection of which
> pages to handle? Gack.

I'm not taking any responsibility for that atrocity, but I believe the original culprits did it in VB 3.0.  Need I say more? ;-)

> > Temporarily, I've modified the ps2fax script to use the psselect tool (part of a postcript tools tarball I found on sunsite.unc.edu) to extract only the first page, and render that.  The downside of this is that we can no longer fax anything longer th
an
>  o
> > ne page, should we have some other place to send it.
> 
> Hmm. Why not translate the file to TIFF, then use the "tiffcp" tool on
> it to split up the file and select the desired pages? Or is the file
> wastefully large to handle this way? Or can you get into the ghostscript
> options and pull the pages that way (since ps2fax uses ghostscript?)

Regardless of whether I select the page in tiff or ps format, I need to be able to do this according to the number it is being sent to, since there is only one number that has the one page restriction.  Any ideas?

> It's an interesting problem...

<G> That doesn't bode well, eh? ;-)

	--Arthur Corliss
	  "Live Free or Die--the Only Way to Live" (NH State Motto)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:55:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Arthur Corliss <corliss@sinbad.net>
Cc: FlexFax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Rules by telephone number. . .
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Arthur Corliss wrote:

> Regardless of whether I select the page in tiff or ps format, I need to be able to do this according to the number it is being sent to, since there is only one number that has the one page restriction.  Any ideas?

Yes. Set up a different fax print spool or pre-processing script to
run all jobs for that or other destinations with this limit
through. You need to do this at the pre-sendfax level, so I'd suggest
putting a "sendfax" script in your path before the normal sendfax
command. This script could run the phone number through dialtest, get
the canonical phone number, check it against a list of page-limited
destinations, then take a battle-ax to the generated TIFF (since it's
easier in this case to work with the final files, just in case someone
submits TIFF jobs) and send the right thing.

Alternatively, set up a print spool for that program that
automatically strips all but the first page, and print all the outputs
from that brain-dead program through that print spool before
submission to HylaFAX.

Note that this is a problem for *ANY* fax software: HylaFAX merely
makes the source available so we can work around it ourselves....

> > It's an interesting problem...
> 
> <G> That doesn't bode well, eh? ;-)

Let me know: if you'd like, I'm also available as a tele-consultant
for minor projects.

Now, if I can work out the routing on my new Linux box at home to see
my Ethernet card and the modem....

			Nico Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:05:11 -0800 (AKDT)
From: Arthur Corliss <corliss@sinbad.net>
To: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
cc: FlexFax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Rules by telephone number. . .
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:55:28 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
> To: Arthur Corliss <corliss@sinbad.net>
> Cc: FlexFax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
> Subject: Re: flexfax: Rules by telephone number. . .
> 
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> 
> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Arthur Corliss wrote:
> 
> > Regardless of whether I select the page in tiff or ps format, I need to be able to do this according to the number it is being sent to, since there is only one number that has the one page restriction.  Any ideas?
> 
> Yes. Set up a different fax print spool or pre-processing script to
> run all jobs for that or other destinations with this limit
> through. You need to do this at the pre-sendfax level, so I'd suggest
> putting a "sendfax" script in your path before the normal sendfax
> command. This script could run the phone number through dialtest, get
> the canonical phone number, check it against a list of page-limited
> destinations, then take a battle-ax to the generated TIFF (since it's
> easier in this case to work with the final files, just in case someone
> submits TIFF jobs) and send the right thing.

I'm using whfc on the Windows boxes, so I'm not sure how I'll accomplish this.

> Alternatively, set up a print spool for that program that
> automatically strips all but the first page, and print all the outputs
> from that brain-dead program through that print spool before
> submission to HylaFAX.

I've thought about setting up a what appears to be a dedicated printer for this fax number through Samba, but this appears to be a tricky thing to pull off.  I'll have to do some research.

> > <G> That doesn't bode well, eh? ;-)
> 
> Let me know: if you'd like, I'm also available as a tele-consultant
> for minor projects.
> 
> Now, if I can work out the routing on my new Linux box at home to see
> my Ethernet card and the modem....
> 
> 			Nico Garcia
> 			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
> 			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
> 			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

<G>  That's something I *do* have worked out at home, one box IP masquerading for all the other computers on the lan, sharing the ppp link setup on the modem.  Let me know if there's any tips I can share.

	--Arthur Corliss
	  "Live Free or Die--the Only Way to Live" (NH State Motto)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Subject: flexfax: What timeout do I need to adjust ?
To: flexfax@sgi.com (Hylafax Mailing List)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:08:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

	I suppose I will eventually get all the ramifications of this going :-(

	I have increased the size of my fax spool que, in order to handle more
	and biger jobs.

	Now I am geting this error message:

	Your facsimile job to 17709967186 could not be completed before the
	appointed deadline.

	What configuration value do I need to increase?

	Thanks.

-- 
Stan Brown     stanb@netcom.com                                    770-996-6955
Factory Automation Systems
Atlanta Ga.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
	minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a
	16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit
	microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit
	of competition.
-
(c) 1998 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com (Hylafax Mailing List)
Subject: Re: flexfax: What timeout do I need to adjust ? 
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 11:24:20 +0100
From: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


>>>>> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, "SB" == Stan Brown wrote:

  SB> I suppose I will eventually get all the ramifications of this going :-(

  SB> I have increased the size of my fax spool que, in order to handle more
  SB> and biger jobs.

  SB> Now I am geting this error message:

  SB> Your facsimile job to 17709967186 could not be completed before the
  SB> appointed deadline.

  SB> What configuration value do I need to increase?

>From the sendfax man page:

       -k time     Kill the job if it does not  complete  in  the
                   indicated  time.   As  for  the -a option, the
                   time is  specifed  using  notation  compatible
                   with at(1).  Note that the time is relative to
                   the time of the initial transmission  attempt.
                   The  default  kill time is ``now +1 day'' (one
                   day from the time the job is first processed).

make it something like a few days ;-)

-DPN

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 02:50:35 +0200
Subject: flexfax: How to limit compressoion to 1-D ?
Reply-to: mhaneke@t-online.de
From: mhaneke@t-online.de (Martin U. Haneke)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi there,

is there any opportunity to limit the compression of (received) faxes to 1-D 
compression or to convert them immediatedly after receiveing them ?

Reason is that we have no viewer for our Windows 95 clients which is capable 
of showing 2-D decoded faxes. A hint for a Windows-based viewer which could 
be used for these faxes is apreciated as well.

Configuration:
first machine
Elsa MicroLink 33,6 TQV
Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
Hylafax 4.0pl2

second machine
ZyXEL 1496 E (FW 6.11)
Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
Hylafax 4.0pl2

Martin U. Haneke
Haneke Systemtechnik
E-Mail: mhaneke@t-online.de
Tel:+49 30 7570 2990
Fax.: +49 30 7570 2991

PgP Fingerprint: 
3A84 79EA 7378 6931 A772  C9AB 51DC 0736 98EB 5FC9

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Andrew Radke" <radke@iig.com.au>
To: <flexfax@celestial.com>
Subject: RE: flexfax: How to limit compressoion to 1-D ?
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:27:18 +1000
Importance: Normal
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

If you are using Win95 OSR2 or later (NT4 or 98 also) then install 'Imaging'
in Windows Setup.

This does a good job except that it can't seem to shink the image to fit on
a page, which is very annoying with a fax since it will be the width of a
page and once you take the printers margins into account it misses quite a
bit. For the moment (ie until I get some more time to look at it) I save any
fax I do want printed then use Paint Shop Pro to print it. Annoying but it
works for the moment.

Regards,
  Andrew Radke.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-flexfax@celestial.com [mailto:owner-flexfax@celestial.com]On
> Behalf Of Martin U. Haneke
> Sent: Monday, 3 August 1998 10:51am
> To: flexfax@sgi.com
> Subject: flexfax: How to limit compressoion to 1-D ?
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> is there any opportunity to limit the compression of (received)
> faxes to 1-D
> compression or to convert them immediatedly after receiveing them ?
>
> Reason is that we have no viewer for our Windows 95 clients which
> is capable
> of showing 2-D decoded faxes. A hint for a Windows-based viewer
> which could
> be used for these faxes is apreciated as well.
>
> Configuration:
> first machine
> Elsa MicroLink 33,6 TQV
> Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
> Hylafax 4.0pl2
>
> second machine
> ZyXEL 1496 E (FW 6.11)
> Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
> Hylafax 4.0pl2
>
> Martin U. Haneke
> Haneke Systemtechnik
> E-Mail: mhaneke@t-online.de
> Tel:+49 30 7570 2990
> Fax.: +49 30 7570 2991
>
> PgP Fingerprint:
> 3A84 79EA 7378 6931 A772  C9AB 51DC 0736 98EB 5FC9
>

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: "Andrew Radke" <radke@iig.com.au>, flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:18:41 +0200
Subject: RE: flexfax: How to limit compressoion to 1-D ?
Reply-to: mhaneke@t-online.de
From: mhaneke@t-online.de (Martin U. Haneke)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

From radke@iig.com.au  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From:           	"Andrew Radke" <radke@iig.com.au>
To:             	<flexfax@celestial.com>
Subject:        	RE: flexfax: How to limit compressoion to 1-D ?

Date sent:      	Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:27:18 +1000


Thank You for Your response !

Which could not help the problem. I tried PsP 4.10, Wang Imaging from 
Windows (which You mentioned as Imaging) and Adobe Photoshop. On the 
Linux side gimp is not capable of those facsimilies as well( shows only black 
pages). The only programm I found working is from KDE package it is named 
kfax.

> bit. For the moment (ie until I get some more time to look at it) I save any
> fax I do want printed then use Paint Shop Pro to print it. Annoying but it
> works for the moment.
> 

> > is there any opportunity to limit the compression of (received)
> > faxes to 1-D
> > compression or to convert them immediatedly after receiveing them ?
> >
> > Reason is that we have no viewer for our Windows 95 clients which
> > is capable
> > of showing 2-D decoded faxes. A hint for a Windows-based viewer
> > which could
> > be used for these faxes is apreciated as well.
> >
> > Configuration:
> > first machine
> > Elsa MicroLink 33,6 TQV
> > Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
> > Hylafax 4.0pl2
> >
> > second machine
> > ZyXEL 1496 E (FW 6.11)
> > Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
> > Hylafax 4.0pl2
> >
> > Martin U. Haneke
> > Haneke Systemtechnik
> > E-Mail: mhaneke@t-online.de
> > Tel:+49 30 7570 2990
> > Fax.: +49 30 7570 2991
> >
> > PgP Fingerprint:
> > 3A84 79EA 7378 6931 A772  C9AB 51DC 0736 98EB 5FC9
> >
> 


Martin U. Haneke
Haneke Systemtechnik
E-Mail: mhaneke@t-online.de
Tel:+49 30 7570 2990
Fax.: +49 30 7570 2991

PgP Fingerprint: 
3A84 79EA 7378 6931 A772  C9AB 51DC 0736 98EB 5FC9

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Andrew Radke" <radke@iig.com.au>
To: <flexfax@celestial.com>
Subject: RE: flexfax: How to limit compressoion to 1-D ?
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:08:22 +1000
Importance: Normal
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

As of Win98 it is Kodak Imaging as opposed to Wang Imaging which is why I
called it only 'Imaging'. I have so far found it to be able to read any fax
that is sent without any hassles.

As for PSP I use v5 and it doesn't get the vertical resolution right at all
and is therefore useless so I wouldn't expect an earlier version to work
(but you never know, considering it is windows software). Do you have access
to Corel PhotoPaint. I have v7 and it has been able to read everything I
throw at it but only the first page.

Last but not least. If you use tiff2ps on the Linux box is it then viewable
in Ghostview? This is a last resort that has _never_ failed me. In fact I
have just about had enough of tiff files and when I have time will modify
the faxrcvd script to convert the tiffs to ps and dump the original tiff.

Hope this helps in some way. Let me know how it goes.

Andrew Radke.


> Thank You for Your response !
>
> Which could not help the problem. I tried PsP 4.10, Wang Imaging from
> Windows (which You mentioned as Imaging) and Adobe Photoshop. On the
> Linux side gimp is not capable of those facsimilies as
l( 
> shows only black 
> pages). The only programm I found working is from KDE package it is named 
> kfax.
> 
> > bit. For the moment (ie until I get some more time to look at 
> it) I save any
> > fax I do want printed then use Paint Shop Pro to print it. 
> Annoying but it
> > works for the moment.
> > 
> 
> > > is there any opportunity to limit the compression of (received)
> > > faxes to 1-D
> > > compression or to convert them immediatedly after receiveing them ?
> > >
> > > Reason is that we have no viewer for our Windows 95 clients which
> > > is capable
> > > of showing 2-D decoded faxes. A hint for a Windows-based viewer
> > > which could
> > > be used for these faxes is apreciated as well.
> > >
> > > Configuration:
> > > first machine
> > > Elsa MicroLink 33,6 TQV
> > > Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
> > > Hylafax 4.0pl2
> > >
> > > second machine
> > > ZyXEL 1496 E (FW 6.11)
> > > Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
> > > Hylafax 4.0pl2
> > >
> > > Martin U. Haneke
> > > Haneke Systemtechnik
> > > E-Mail: mhaneke@t-online.de
> > > Tel:+49 30 7570 2990
> > > Fax.: +49 30 7570 2991
> > >
> > > PgP Fingerprint:
> > > 3A84 79EA 7378 6931 A772  C9AB 51DC 0736 98EB 5FC9
> > >
> > 
> 
> 
> Martin U. Haneke
> Haneke Systemtechnik
> E-Mail: mhaneke@t-online.de
> Tel:+49 30 7570 2990
> Fax.: +49 30 7570 2991
> 
> PgP Fingerprint: 
> 3A84 79EA 7378 6931 A772  C9AB 51DC 0736 98EB 5FC9
> 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: "Andrew Radke" <radke@iig.com.au>, flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:46:08 +0200
Subject: RE: flexfax: How to limit compressoion to 1-D ?
Reply-to: mhaneke@t-online.de
From: mhaneke@t-online.de (Martin U. Haneke)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by derrick.elgro.co.uk id HAA13350

From radke@iig.com.au  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From:           	"Andrew Radke" <radke@iig.com.au>
To:             	<flexfax@celestial.com>
Subject:        	RE: flexfax: How to limit compressoion to 1-D ?

Date sent:      	Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:08:22 +1000

Andrew,
Thank You for Your immediate response on my question. Because I have no 
Win 98 or Corel and PsP does not work (this special case V. 4.12) I think I 
have a real problem. Postscript will not solve the problem as well, bacause we 
have no programm to read EPS (or else) on these Windows machines.

May be there is a way to configure the ELSA-modem or hylafax to receive only 
1-D compressed faxes or to negotiate only these ?

Please excuse the long quotes here, I would lke to post the messages again.

> As of Win98 it is Kodak Imaging as opposed to Wang Imaging which is why I
> called it only 'Imaging'. I have so far found it to be able to read any fax
> that is sent without any hassles.
> 
> As for PSP I use v5 and it doesn't get the vertical resolution right at all
> and is therefore useless so I wouldn't expect an earlier version to work
> (but you never know, considering it is windows software). Do you have access
> to Corel PhotoPaint. I have v7 and it has been able to read everything I
> throw at it but only the first page.
> 
> Last but not least. If you use tiff2ps on the Linux box is it then viewable
> in Ghostview? This is a last resort that has _never_ failed me. In fact I

> >
> > Which could not help the problem. I tried PsP 4.10, Wang Imaging from
> > Windows (which You mentioned as Imaging) and Adobe Photoshop. On the
> > Linux side gimp is not capable of those facsimilies as
> l( 
> > shows only black 
> > pages). The only programm I found working is from KDE package it is named 
> > kfax.
> > 
> > > bit. For the moment (ie until I get some more time to look at 
> > it) I save any
> > > fax I do want printed then use Paint Shop Pro to print it. 
> > Annoying but it
> > > works for the moment.
> > > 
> > 
> > > > is there any opportunity to limit the compression of (received)
> > > > faxes to 1-D
> > > > compression or to convert them immediatedly after receiveing them ?
> > > >
> > > > Reason is that we have no viewer for our Windows 95 clients which
> > > > is capable
> > > > of showing 2-D decoded faxes. A hint for a Windows-based viewer
> > > > which could
> > > > be used for these faxes is apreciated as well.
> > > >
> > > > Configuration:
> > > > first machine
> > > > Elsa MicroLink 33,6 TQV
> > > > Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
> > > > Hylafax 4.0pl2
> > > >
> > > > second machine
> > > > ZyXEL 1496 E (FW 6.11)
> > > > Linux kernel 2.0.33 (S.u.S.E)
> > > > Hylafax 4.0pl2
> > > >
> > > > Martin U. Haneke
> > > > Haneke Systemtechnik
> > > > E-Mail: mhaneke@t-online.de
> > > > Tel:+49 30 7570 2990
> > > > Fax.: +49 30 7570 2991
> > > >
> > > > PgP Fingerprint:
> > > > 3A84 79EA 7378 6931 A772  C9AB 51DC 0736 98EB 5FC9
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Martin U. Haneke
> > Haneke Systemtechnik
> > E-Mail: mhaneke@t-online.de
> > Tel:+49 30 7570 2990
> > Fax.: +49 30 7570 2991
> > 
> > PgP Fingerprint: 
> > 3A84 79EA 7378 6931 A772  C9AB 51DC 0736 98EB 5FC9
> > 
> 


Martin U. Haneke
Haneke Systemtechnik
E-Mail: mhaneke@t-online.de
Tel:+49 30 7570 2990
Fax.: +49 30 7570 2991

PgP Fingerprint: 
3A84 79EA 7378 6931 A772  C9AB 51DC 0736 98EB 5FC9

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 22:22:42 +0200
From: Reiner Mayers <reiner.mayers@main-rheiner.de>
To: flexfax@sgi.com, reiner.mayers@main-rheiner.de
Subject: flexfax: Can I set up Hylafax to serve Fax polling requests
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello,

a friend asked me to set up a PC to serve Fax polling requests for their
privat Car Ralley Club.
Can I store Documents in the Hylafax tree and poll them with a normal
Fax machine ? If yes, how ?

kind regards

Reiner

<reiner.mayers@main-rheiner.de>

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 15:40:42 +0800 (HKT)
From: Hong Kong Observatory <d1swdev@asiaonline.net>
To: Reiner Mayers <reiner.mayers@main-rheiner.de>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Can I set up Hylafax to serve Fax polling requests
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

   Sorry NO !!!

On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Reiner Mayers wrote:

> Hello,
>
> a friend asked me to set up a PC to serve Fax polling requests for their
> privat Car Ralley Club.
> Can I store Documents in the Hylafax tree and poll them with a normal
> Fax machine ? If yes, how ?
>
> kind regards
>
> Reiner
>
> <reiner.mayers@main-rheiner.de>
>
>
>
K.S.Wat SSA(D)12
Computer Division,
Hong Kong Observatory.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 03:14:46 +1000
To: FlexFax mailing list <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Geoff Roberts <gjr01@uow.edu.au>
Subject: flexfax: Rockwell Modem and data probs.
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

   I wish to have my hylfax (version 4.0pl2) handle both data and fax.
Data connections should start mgetty.

   I have a modem with a Rockwell chip in it - class two fax/modem.   I
wish to have it handle both data and fax.   At present it is handling fax
beautifully.   However it seems to negotiate data connections OK and then
the modem just hangs there.

   I assume therefore that Hylafax is not responding to a data connection.
The following are setup in the config file for the modem:

ModemSetupAACmd:       AT+FAA=1
ModemType:              Class2

   I also have the GettyArgs parameter set for mgetty as follows:

"-r -x 9 -D -b -s %s %l"

   Do I need to set the AdaptiveAnswer variable?   I also notice looking
around that the ModemWaitForConnect can be useful for some Rockwell chips.
I have noticed in fax messages that the CONNECT comes a long way after the
+FCON.   Is there an AT command to give me the chip type?

   Thanks

   Geoff


   The modem type returned by HylaFax is MODEM ROCKWELL
AC/V34/V1.450-V34_DS, and the error in the log file is:

Aug 02 21:53:47.04: [  182]: SESSION BEGIN 00000013 61242261209
Aug 02 21:53:47.04: [  182]: <-- [4:ATA\r]
Aug 02 21:54:34.55: [  182]: --> [8:+FHNG: 1]
Aug 02 21:54:34.55: [  182]: REMOTE HANGUP: Ring detect without successful
hands
hake (code 1)
Aug 02 21:54:34.55: [  182]: ANSWER: Ring detected without successful handshake
Aug 02 21:54:34.55: [  182]: SESSION END

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:38:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Geoff Roberts <gjr01@uow.edu.au>
Cc: FlexFax mailing list <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Rockwell Modem and data probs.
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Geoff Roberts wrote:

>    I assume therefore that Hylafax is not responding to a data connection.
> The following are setup in the config file for the modem:
> 
> ModemSetupAACmd:       AT+FAA=1
> ModemType:              Class2

Try this:
	ModemSetupAACmd:       AT+FCLASS=0+FAA=1

There is a known bug with the 14.4 Rockwell modems that auto-adaptive
only works in certain modes.

			Nico Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Can't figure out destctrls ?
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 11:24:19 +1000
From: David Weiss <dweiss@vic.design.telstra.com.au>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello,

I'm having some difficulty with the per-destination controls
of HylaFAX. Specifically, I want to restrict the transmission 
speed for certain fax numbers, but I can't get any of the controls
to work, except the "RejectNotice" parameter.

My etc/config file looks like this:

LogFacility:            local6
CountryCode:            61
AreaCode:               3
LongDistancePrefix:     0
InternationalPrefix:    0011
DialStringRules:        etc/dialrules.europe
ServerTracing:          0x02001
MaxDials:               3
MaxTries:               3
ModemClass:             fax:.*[01]
ModemClass:             pager:.*[01]
DestControls:           etc/destcontrols

and my etc/destcontrols file looks like this:

*911$  RejectNotice="Calls to emergency numbers are not permitted"
.*      DesiredBR=2400

which is almost exactly the same as the example in the destctrls
man page. However, I can't manage to cause the actual fax speed
to change from the default of 9600. I have tried various permutations
such as:

*      desiredspeed=2400
.*      desiredspeed=0

and so on, but nothing has any effect. I have also played
with the MaxDials parameter, and similarly nothing I do has
any effect on the fax transmission.

Please does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?

thanks
David

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: 05 Aug 98 11:32:32 +1030
From: Michael Firkins <michael@sa.lyppard.com.au>
Subject: flexfax: Pb: Hylafax -rockwell Phase D error
To: flexfax list <flexfax@sgi.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

                      Subject:                              Time:  10:04 
AM
  OFFICE MEMO         Pb: Hylafax -rockwell Phase D error   Date:  
5/8/98
Hi.
I'm experiencing the odd failure with certain faxes, can anyone point me 
to where I can find out why?
What happens with this one, is hylafax sends the fax ok, but for some 
reason doesn't recognise that it is received at the other end, and 
sends another copy until the other end hangs up or it reaches the max 
retries. I've appended an abbreviated session log, please let me know 
if this is unacceptable protocol...

hylafax-v4.0pl1, Linux (Redhat 4.2) 2.0.34 on intel Pentium. Simplemodem 
144f (MODEM ROCKWELL RC32ACL/V1.410-AS29).
Aug 04 14:22:09.46: [17809]: --> [1:^Q]
Aug 04 14:22:09.46: [17809]: SEND begin page
Aug 04 14:22:22.37: [17809]: SENT 20154 bytes of data
Aug 04 14:22:22.37: [17809]: SEND end page
Aug 04 14:22:30.04: [17809]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 04 14:22:30.04: [17809]: SEND send EOP (no more pages or documents)
Aug 04 14:22:30.04: [17809]: <-- [9:AT+FET=2\r]
Aug 04 14:22:33.01: [17809]: --> [8:+FPTS: 2]
Aug 04 14:22:33.12: [17809]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 04 14:22:33.12: [17809]: SEND recv RTN (retrain negative)
Aug 04 14:22:33.12: [17809]: <-- [7:AT+FDT\r]
Aug 04 14:22:40.98: [17809]: --> [22:+FDCS: 0,5,0,2,1,0,0,3]
Aug 04 14:22:41.18: [17809]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Aug 04 14:22:41.18: [17809]: SEND wait for XON
Aug 04 14:22:41.18: [17809]: --> [1:^Q]
Aug 04 14:22:41.18: [17809]: SEND begin page
Aug 04 14:22:54.09: [17809]: SENT 20154 bytes of data
Aug 04 14:22:54.09: [17809]: SEND end page
Aug 04 14:23:01.75: [17809]: --> [2:OK]
...
Aug 04 14:23:33.49: [17809]: <-- [9:AT+FET=2\r]
Aug 04 14:23:36.49: [17809]: --> [8:+FPTS: 2]
Aug 04 14:23:36.60: [17809]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 04 14:23:36.60: [17809]: SEND recv RTN (retrain negative)
Aug 04 14:23:36.60: [17809]: <-- [6:AT+FK\r]
Aug 04 14:23:42.23: [17809]: --> [9:+FHNG: 50]
Aug 04 14:23:42.23: [17809]: REMOTE HANGUP: Unspecified Transmit Phase D 
error, 
including +FPHCTO timeout between data and +FET command (code 50)
Aug 04 14:23:43.22: [17809]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 04 14:23:43.22: [17809]: SEND: Unable to transmit page (giving up 
after 3 
attempts); Giving up after 3 attempts to send same page 
"docq/doc1032.ps;40", 
dirnum 0
Aug 04 14:23:43.22: [17809]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Aug 04 14:23:43.46: [17809]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 04 14:23:43.46: [17809]: SESSION END

Thanks,
Michael

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 15:50:05 +1000
To: Michael Firkins <michael@sa.lyppard.com.au>,
        flexfax list <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Pb: Hylafax -rockwell Phase D error
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi Michael,

The fax machine at the other end has replied to the page with a negative
retrain - it wants hylafax to retransmit the current page again because it
thinks there is an error in it.  There are two types of error an encoding
error and a tranmission error.  Some fax machines can tell the difference
between the two and send a retrain positive for a transmission error and a
retrain negative for an encoding error back to the sender.

When hylafax receives a retrain negative it should renegotiate down the
session parameters for the connection and try again. ie not continue to try
to send a 2D encoded fax and perhaps lower other parameters like the fax
resolution and connection speed.

Unfortunately it doesn't do this - it typically negotiates the same session
parameters again and resends the page, perhaps many times :-(

As a workaround try:
 Use2D: No
in your config file, to force hylafax to only use 1D encoding

ie You've got:
>Aug 04 14:22:40.98: [17809]: --> [22:+FDCS: 0,5,0,2,1,0,0,3]

You want:
>Aug 04 14:22:40.98: [17809]: --> [22:+FDCS: 0,5,0,2,0,0,0,3]

I have looked at fixing this in the code so that hylafax handles this
situation properly, but it is quite difficult to do - if i could find some
free time i might be able to do it ;-)

good luck - Robert

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:26:54 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Catalin Condurache <catalin@dntis.ro>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Can't send documents
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I'm using hylafax v4.0-6 under RH Linux 5.1 and a USR Courier v.everything

When I'm trying to send a fax, the fax server make the connection with the
faxmachine but instead to send the document it hangs up. The log looks
like:

--------------------------------------
Aug 05 12:27:20.08: [ 3225]: SESSION BEGIN 00000010 4032252933
Aug 05 12:27:20.08: [ 3225]: SEND FAX: JOB 8 DEST 252933 COMMID 00000010
Aug 05 12:27:20.08: [ 3225]: DELAY 2600 ms
Aug 05 12:27:22.68: [ 3225]: <-- [17:ATE0V1Q0X4S0=0H0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:22.85: [ 3225]: --> [16:ATE0V1Q0X4S0=0H0]
Aug 05 12:27:22.85: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:22.85: [ 3225]: <-- [32:ATS8=2S7=60&H1&I0&R2S13=1&D2&C1\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.02: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.02: [ 3225]: <-- [14:AT+FCLASS=2.0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.06: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.06: [ 3225]: <-- [9:AT+FLO=2\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.10: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.10: [ 3225]: <-- [9:AT+FPP=0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.14: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.14: [ 3225]: <-- [9:AT+FBO=0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.18: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.18: [ 3225]: <-- [10:AT+FCT=30\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.22: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.22: [ 3225]: <-- [15:AT+FNR=1,1,1,1\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.26: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.26: [ 3225]: <-- [9:AT+FIE=0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.30: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.30: [ 3225]: <-- [23:AT+FCC=1,5,2,2,0,0,0,0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.35: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.35: [ 3225]: <-- [5:ATM0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.52: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.52: [ 3225]: <-- [14:AT+FCLASS=2.0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.66: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.66: [ 3225]: <-- [9:AT+FLO=2\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.80: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.80: [ 3225]: <-- [9:AT+FPP=0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:23.94: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:23.94: [ 3225]: <-- [9:AT+FBO=0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:24.08: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:24.08: [ 3225]: <-- [10:AT+FCT=30\r]
Aug 05 12:27:24.22: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:24.22: [ 3225]: <-- [15:AT+FNR=1,1,1,1\r]
Aug 05 12:27:24.36: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:24.36: [ 3225]: <-- [9:AT+FIE=0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:24.50: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:24.50: [ 3225]: <-- [23:AT+FCC=1,5,2,2,0,0,0,0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:24.65: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:24.65: [ 3225]: <-- [22:AT+FLI="NothingSetup"\r]
Aug 05 12:27:24.80: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:24.84: [ 3225]: DIAL 252933
Aug 05 12:27:24.84: [ 3225]: <-- [11:ATDT252933\r]
Aug 05 12:27:39.36: [ 3225]: --> [4:+FCO]
Aug 05 12:27:41.53: [ 3225]: -->
   [79:+FNF:000079000000820F09130010050295C85801490244594E414D4943204E4554574F524B2003]
Aug 05 12:27:41.53: [ 3225]: REMOTE NSF
   "000079000000820F09130010050295C85801490244594E414D4943204E4554574F524B2003"
Aug 05 12:27:42.22: [ 3225]: --> [27:+FCI:"       40 32 252 933"]
Aug 05 12:27:42.22: [ 3225]: REMOTE CSI "40 32 252 933"
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: --> [20:+FIS:1,3,0,2,1,0,0,4]
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: REMOTE best rate 9600 bit/s
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: REMOTE max page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: REMOTE max unlimited page length
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: REMOTE best vres 7.7 line/mm
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: REMOTE best format 2-D MR
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: REMOTE best 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: USE 9600 bit/s
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: USE 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Aug 05 12:27:42.62: [ 3225]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Aug 05 12:27:43.02: [ 3225]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 05 12:27:43.02: [ 3225]: SESSION END

------------------------------------------------------

Any help?

thank you,
catalin

==============================================================================
     Catalin CONDURACHE         |        Dynamic Network Technologies
    C.Condurache@dntis.ro       |           Moara de Foc 35, et. 7
     http://www.dntis.ro        |             IASI-6600, ROMANIA
==============================================================================

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:31:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int>
Cc: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Arlington Hewes' RPM for Linux under RedHat 5.1
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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Downloaded from:
	ftp://ftp.tpc.int/pub/hylafax/hylafax-4.0pl2-1rh5.i386.rpm

So, I tried it out last weekend. And after some battle, I've come to
some conclusions about the very nice RPM created by Arlington Hewes
(known informally as Doug, if I remember right!).

1. Overall construction is good. It seems to do a complete job of
installation, and works well for my Sportster modem under RedHat 5.1, with
appropriate start-up scripts and warnings about HylaFAX specific needs
(Thanks, Doug: you did say to call you Doug, right?)

2. The dependencies are bad. The demand for ghostscript 5.10 fonts
forces one to either over-ride the dependencies or grab contributed
fonts. Unfortunately, the contributed fonts at the RedHat site and
mirrors demand ghostscript 5.02 or better. Unfortunately, the ghostscript
5.10 at those sites demands the "std" fonts. Unfortunately, this is
a mistaken RPM dependency for fonts other than those on the contrib
site, which has the 5.10 and 5.10 "other" fonts, not the "std" fonts.
And the fonts are almost all the same since many versions back.

Does anyone detect a theme here? RPM distributions should use the
*MINIMUM* necessary dependencies Requiring unnecessarily high versions
or extra tools just makes life harder for people trying to save disk
space or reduce their machine's complexity. The ghostscript 3.33 in
the distribution is *sufficient* for HylaFAX. Forcing the users to
grab several Meg more of software, when they are first setting up
their modems is pushy at best and will discourage them from using the
software.

If we have to use later ghostscript fonts, one of us should put up a
ghostscript font RPM that itself uses consistent dependencies.

3. There is an unnecessary dependency in the HylaFAX rpm on the "mawk"
rpm, when "gawk" is more than sufficient for HylaFAX.  That was
awkward, since I didn't have my CD's in hand and downloading spare
tools from over-loaded FTP sites can be a real pain in the
butt. Understandable, but somewhat irritating. Was this in the source?

4. I'll take a look later at the "faxsurvey" security hole, and the
"manpage" problem in the HTML and see if that's present in the RPM:
those are not Linux problems but HylaFAX problems with different
operating systems which may exist in this distribution.

5. RedHat 5.0 did not include /usr/local/bin in the standard $PATH,
RedHat 5.1 does. Therefore under 5.0 HylaFAX users need to add
this element if they use the RPM, which does use this.

My overall conclusion is that it's a good RPM, but it takes some
extra work to be perfect. I don't recommend it for the unwary, but for
people who don't want to compile and configure on their own yet.

See my next note for some other issues on "faxsurvey:...

			Nico Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:16:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Catalin Condurache <catalin@dntis.ro>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Can't send documents
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Catalin Condurache wrote:

> I'm using hylafax v4.0-6 under RH Linux 5.1 and a USR Courier v.everything
> 
> When I'm trying to send a fax, the fax server make the connection with the
> faxmachine but instead to send the document it hangs up. The log looks
> like:

4.0-6? You mean the binaries for RedHat 4.2? Don't. There are a lot of
issues with that.

Try the RPM at ftp://ftp.tpc.int/, or compile from source using my notes
at http://cirl.meei.harvard.edu/hylafax/

			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 17:35:19 -0400
From: WalterFeddern<wfeddern@home.net>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: textfmt ascii conversion problem (formfeed ignored)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I am running HylaFax 4.0pl0 on an RS/6000 model 43P, AIX 4.2.1; using a
Multitech ZDX2834 modem.

I am using the following command in a pipe to translate an ascii data
stream into postscript pages suitable for piping into sendfax. 

cat /temp/test.txt |textfmt -B -c -s NA-LET -p 8 

The source text is formatted for 132 columns wide (thus the -p 8 to
change to an appropriate font size), and contains a number of formfeeds
(hex 0c). The text comes out looking great, but it seems to ignore the
form feeds. These pages are of varying lengths, and each starts with a
header (listing page number and some other info). When faxed, all pages
come out one after the other (not even a blank line in between), even
where the formfeed occours.

I have tried various options in the -s parameter (default, let), but no
change. I have tested both by piping the above result directly to a
printer and to sendfax, and both show the same results.

Any suggestions?

Walter Feddern.
wfeddern@home.net

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Pb: Hylafax -rockwell Phase D error
To: michael@sa.lyppard.com.au (Michael Firkins)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 08:44:01 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Reply-To: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> Aug 04 14:22:33.12: [17809]: SEND recv RTN (retrain negative)

Either:

- the line quality is so bad, or the signal is being corrupted by something
  like data overruns; or

- the sender is violating the fax coding rules; or

- the receiver is incorrectly rejecting validly coded data.

As a result, the receiver is inferring that the line quality has changed 
since the initial calibration (training) of the modems for that session and
has rejected (negative) the page and requested a recalibration (retrain).

There was a lot of discussion on this earlier in the year
(...multiple errors..., or might have been multiple transmissions).

Merging on and off list contributions, it would appear that the standards
require that RTN be treated differently from RTP (the page was acceptable,
but the line seems to be degrading), but that, pragmatically, the need
for a retrain is not usually detected by monitoring the analogue quality
of the signal and systematic errors, like coding errors are so common,
that, in the view of one developer of commercial fax software, the only
safe approach was to treat RTP and RTN alike.  Hylafax does honour the
N in RTN.

You should check that your flow control is sound (probably hardware), the
modem to computer rate is fast enough (needs to be somewhat more than 125%
of the modem to modem rate, and that you are using an RIP that doesn't 
generate invalid fax encodings in the compression modes that you are 
allowing.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Maged Hassan" <Maged.Hassan.meehassa@nt.com>
To: "'flexfax@sgi.com'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: USR courier / Caller ID Feature
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 17:17:33 -0400
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

   I am running HylaFax-v4.0pl1 on a Sparc (sunOS 5.5). ok, I have a CID
rejection 
problem. This is one of the files in the log/

Aug 05 17:12:20.30: [29490]: SESSION BEGIN 00000369 11234567890
Aug 05 17:12:20.30: [29490]: ANSWER: CID REJECTED
Aug 05 17:12:20.30: [29490]: SESSION END

I changed my config.cua_b file to support caller ID feature and I enabled
the modem
to do so:
The modem returns this output after the first ring:
    DATE = 1234
    TIME = 1234
    NAME = "blah"
    NMBR = 11234567890

I added these lines to my config.cua_b :

QualifyCID:             /var/spool/fax/etc/cid
CIDNumber:              "NMBR ="
CIDName:                "NAME ="

Any help would be really appreciated...  Thanks

  Maged

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 11:29:23 +0200
From: Michael Agbaglo <byteshifter@cadac.de>
Organization: CADAC GmbH
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: pagermap: substitution problem
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

pin is dropped - why ?


root@avocado [.../spool/fax/etc] # cat pagermap
Sky(.*)         1800SkyTel/\1
.*              reject

root@avocado [.../spool/fax/etc] # sendpage -p Sky1234567 "foo bar"
destination pin Sky1234567: request id is 31 for host localhost

root@avocado [.../spool/fax/log] # cat c00000096
Aug 06 12:22:44.75: [ 4770]: SESSION BEGIN 00000096 49301800759835
Aug 06 12:22:44.75: [ 4770]: SEND PAGE: JOB 31 DEST 1800SkyTel COMMID
00000096
Aug 06 12:22:44.75: [ 4770]: DELAY 2600 ms
Aug 06 12:22:47.35: [ 4770]: <--
[36:AT&B1&N0&S0S18=4S38.3=1E0V1Q0S0=0H0\r]
Aug 06 12:22:47.52: [ 4770]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 06 12:22:47.52: [ 4770]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&H3&D2&C1\r]
Aug 06 12:22:47.54: [ 4770]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 06 12:22:47.54: [ 4770]: <-- [5:ATM0\r]
Aug 06 12:22:47.55: [ 4770]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 06 12:22:47.55: [ 4770]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=0\r]
Aug 06 12:22:47.66: [ 4770]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 06 12:22:47.66: [ 4770]: <-- [10:AT&K0&N15\r]
Aug 06 12:22:47.77: [ 4770]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 06 12:22:47.77: [ 4770]: DIAL 1800759835
"1234567" is missing !!!
Aug 06 12:22:47.77: [ 4770]: <-- [17:ATDT0W1800759835\r]
Aug 06 12:23:49.38: [ 4770]: --> [10:NO CARRIER]
Aug 06 12:23:49.38: [ 4770]: PAGE FAILED: No carrier detected
Aug 06 12:23:49.38: [ 4770]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Aug 06 12:23:49.64: [ 4770]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 06 12:23:49.64: [ 4770]: SESSION END
r

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 13:29:55 +0200
From: Jens Rehaag <jens.rehaag@tu-clausthal.de>
To: Ronald Greenberg <rig@math.luc.edu>
CC: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Sending to a line shared between voice and fax
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

you might have the same problem I have: While dialling, the modem sends
its beep-tones to tell the other side it wishes to send a fax, but once
someone
picks up the phone and says something, the beeps stop...
Has anyone a solution to this problem?

Greetings
  Jens

Ronald Greenberg wrote:

> Is it supposed to be possible with my FlexFAX (circa 1994) or a more up
> to date HylaFAX to send faxes to a line that is shared between voice and
> fax?
> The line has an answering machine on it that says to leave a message at
> the tone or to proceed with a fax now.  Presumably, when it hears my fax
> machine,
> it is supposed to switch the call to the receiving fax machine.
> Presumably, if a person answers instead of the answering machine, they
> also have
> a way to switch the call to the receiving fax.  I've succesfully sent to
> this line before by putting paper into an ordinary fax machine, but when
> I send something via sendfax, I get a response of "No carrier
> detected".  Can I change the outcome by altering the line in
> /usr/spool/fax/etc/config.cua0
> that says
>
> ModemDialCmd:                DT%s@           # T for tone dialing, @ for
> silence
>
> or by adding some codes to the phone number used in the sendfax
> command?  Please CC me on any responses to the mailing list, because I
> don't ordinarily
> read it (but I've searched diligently in the FAQ on the web).
> --
>
> Ronald I. Greenberg     (Ron)           rig@math.luc.edu
>
>

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:09:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Recent faxsurvey cracking attemptsy
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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Over the last week, I've had several attempts to exploit the faxsurvey
security hole on my machines from various places: Chicago, France, etc.
Has anyone else experienced this lately?

Matthias? When is the next release scheduled, or is there an updated and
secure "faxsurvey" script to use?

			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: Sascha Ottolski <alzhimer@cs.tu-berlin.de>
To: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int>,
        Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Arlington Hewes' RPM for Linux under RedHat 5.1
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 16:58:23 +0200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi!

raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu said:
> 1. Overall construction is good. It seems to do a complete job of
> installation, and works well for my Sportster modem under RedHat 5.1,
> with appropriate start-up scripts and warnings about HylaFAX specific
> needs (Thanks, Doug: you did say to call you Doug, right?) 

Thats what I think. I did install the RPM last week and it worked out of the 
box. However, a littel tweaking was necessary to get some of the statistic 
scripts running.

The problem (and the fix) was simple: In the scripts, the logfile was called 
etc/xferstats and not etc/xferfaxstats.


raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu said:
> 2. The dependencies are bad. The demand for ghostscript 5.10 fonts
> forces one to either over-ride the dependencies or grab contributed
> fonts.

Did install with --nodeps and could not find a problem here (receive-only 
environment at the moment).


raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu said:
> 3. There is an unnecessary dependency in the HylaFAX rpm on the "mawk"
> rpm, when "gawk" is more than sufficient for HylaFAX.

Hey, thanks for pointing this one out. On my stock RedHat-5.1 xferfaxstats 
produced wrong statistics (didn't make snseful things when using -since). 
After about an hour of testing I changed $AWK in setup.cache and voila, now 
the output makes sense.

Another small note: There seems to be a typo in the .spec-file. The output of 
rpm -qi hylafax looks like this:

Name        : hylafax                     Distribution: (none)
Version     : 4.0pl2                            Vendor: (none)
Release     : 1rh5                          Build Date: Fri May 29 02:22:13 
1998
Install date: (none)                        Build Host: roam
Group       : Applications/Communications   Source RPM: 
hylafax-4.0pl2-1rh5.src.rpm
Size        : 4774865
Summary     : HylaFAX(tm) is a sophisticated enterprise strength fax package
Description :
HylaFAX(tm) is a sophisticated enterprise-strength fax package for
class 1 and 2 fax modems on unix systems. It provides spooling
services and numerous supporting fax management tools.
The fax clients may reside on machines different from the server
and client implementations exist for a number of platforms including
windows.

#%package man
#Summary:       man pages for %{name}
#Group:         %{group}

#%description man
#This package includes the [uncompressed] man pages for %{name}.
#
#%package man-gz
#Summary:       man pages for %{name}
#Group:         %{group}
#Provides:      %{name}-man

#%description man-gz
#This package includes the compressed man pages for %{name}.
#
#Note:  helptool obviously cannot search in compressed man pages [but
#       curiously enough, it can search in compressed info pages !?].
#       Use the uncompressed ones, if this is not what you want.
#       The glimpse-rman-tkman combo e.g. can search compressed man pages.
#
#%package htmldoc
#Summary:       html documentation for %{name}
#Group:         %{group}
#
#%description htmldoc
#This package includes the html documentation for %{name}.

But anyway, its a great package, thanks for the effort to build it!

Greetings, Sascha

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:54:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Blaustein <mblauste@CapAccess.org>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Two questions about receive handling
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


I have received several faxes and note the following unexpected behavior:

1. Without my asking, these files get sent to the print queue.  They 
print just fine.  Can I control this -- e.g., turn off printing, declare 
when to print, etc.?

2.  faxcron reports to FAXMASTER that no faxes have been received since 
  <whatever date I say>; but they have!  How can I teach faxcron where to 
look, or whatever it needs to do?

Replies (with appropriate teasing) that merely say which manpage or other 
document covers these questions will be cheerfully accepted.

Thanks.

     Michael Blaustein
     mblauste@CapAccess.org 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:22:58 +1200
From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
To: Michael Blaustein <mblauste@CapAccess.org>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Two questions about receive handling
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Michael Blaustein wrote:

> 
> I have received several faxes and note the following unexpected behavior:
> 
> 1. Without my asking, these files get sent to the print queue.  They 
> print just fine.  Can I control this -- e.g., turn off printing, declare 
> when to print, etc.?

Sounds like someone has tweaked your /var/spool/fax/bin/faxrcvd
script. This file determines what to do with received faxes.

> 2.  faxcron reports to FAXMASTER that no faxes have been received since 
>   <whatever date I say>; but they have!  How can I teach faxcron where to 
> look, or whatever it needs to do?

Faxcron uses /usr/local/sbin/recvstats which in turn inspects xferlog
to determine received faxes. Make sure xferlog exists in
/var/spool/fax/etc and has usable data in it.
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                             |      in adversity we know our friends."
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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com (Hylafax Mailing List)
Subject: Re: flexfax: Timeout problems (still no answer) 
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 00:05:10 +0100
From: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

In message <199808061111.EAA00121@sgi.sgi.com>, "Stan Brown" writes:
>
>	I am submiting jbs from another machine as:
>
>	/opt/hylafax/bin/sendfax  -D -c "\"$COMMENTS\"" \
>	-r "\"$REGARDING\"" \
>	-x "\"$TO_COMPANY\"" -y
>	"\"$TO_COMPANYLOCATION\"" -d \
>	"\"$RECIPIENT"\"@$PHONE_NUMBER
>	/tmp/scan$$/*
>
>	Thes jobs time out in a few hours *less than 12). I don;t understand
>	why, or how to fix it.
>
>	Can anyone give me some advice here?

As I believe I recommended in private e-mail, I would suggest making use of sendfax's -k (killtime) option.

Try adding  

	-k "now +48 hours" 

somewhere near the beginning of your sendfax invocation.

-DPN

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:57:27 +0200
From: Matthias Apitz <Matthias.Apitz@Sisis.de>
To: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
Cc: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Recent faxsurvey cracking attemptsy
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 11:09:54AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> 
> Over the last week, I've had several attempts to exploit the faxsurvey
> security hole on my machines from various places: Chicago, France, etc.
> Has anyone else experienced this lately?
> 
> Matthias? When is the next release scheduled, or is there an updated and
> secure "faxsurvey" script to use?

I've no deadline for a next patch level. Regarding the faxsurvey
script I'ld like to remove it from all distributions until someone
else writes a secure one.

	matthias

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: flexfax: Rockwell Modem Returns no Phase C Data (was: problems hylafax - received tiff file corrupted)
To: cgraf@cabletron.com
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:35:37 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

>      Aug 05 08:18:12.66: [ 
>       163]: --> [7:CONNECT]
> 
>      Aug 05 08:18:12.66: [  163]: RECV: begin page
> 
>      Aug 05 08:18:12.70: [  163]: MODEM set XON/XOFF/FLUSH: input ignored, 
>      output generated
> 
>      Aug 05 08:18:12.70: [  163]: RECV: send trigger 021
>  
>      Aug 05 08:18:12.70: [  163]: <-- data [1]

This is your real problem.  The modem only returned 1 byte of fax data, 
which might even have been a bogus echo of the control-Q used to start
transmission.  I think you need to get the modem documentation (fuller
documentation is on the Rockwell Japanese site; ignore the corporate
site, its only of use to the stock market; this documentation describes
a superset of any one product).
> 
>      Aug 05 08:18:25.10: [  163]: RECV: 0 total lines, 0 bad lines, 0 
>      consecutive bad lines
> 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:59:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
Cc: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Recent faxsurvey cracking attemptsy
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Fri, 7 Aug 1998, Matthias Apitz wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 11:09:54AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > 
> > Over the last week, I've had several attempts to exploit the faxsurvey
> > security hole on my machines from various places: Chicago, France, etc.
> > Has anyone else experienced this lately?
> > 
> > Matthias? When is the next release scheduled, or is there an updated and
> > secure "faxsurvey" script to use?
> 
> I've no deadline for a next patch level. Regarding the faxsurvey
> script I'ld like to remove it from all distributions until someone
> else writes a secure one.

Fair enough. Perhaps a security patch to remove this, placed with the
HylaFAX source code?


			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Timeout problems (still no answer)
To: stanb@awod.com (Stan Brown)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:48:51 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
>  	I posted esterday about problems I am having with jobs being timed out
> 	too soon. I did noe recieve any answers. I would appreciate it if
> 	someone could give me some advice on this problem.

I've seen at least one answer, and one day is not a long time for lists
or usenet.

> 
> 	KillTimeMap:    " 1440 1440 1440 1440 1440 1440 1440 1440 1440 1440
> 	1440 1440"

This is a parameter to control SNPP timeouts, i.e. paging, not faxing.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Subject: flexfax: Connection Time in Notify
To: flexfax@sgi.com
date: Mon, 10 Aug 98 12:03:10 MDT
From: "Dean S. Mah" <dmah@ucalgary.ca>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

I'm wondering what's the easiest way to return the actual
connection time through e-mail to the FAX sender using the notify
scripts?

Thanks,
Dean

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Alan Sparks" <asparks@nss.harris.com>
To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries?
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:04:49 -0700
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I've a couple of FAX numbers we try to send to that seem to always come up
with the following log:

Aug 10 10:48:32.67: [29651]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 10 10:48:32.67: [29651]: SEND send MPS (more pages, same document)
Aug 10 10:48:32.67: [29651]: <-- [9:AT+FET=0\r]
Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: --> [7:+FPTS:2]
Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: SEND recv RTN (retrain negative)
Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: <-- [6:AT+FK\r]
Aug 10 10:48:37.17: [29651]: --> [8:+FHNG:02]
Aug 10 10:48:37.17: [29651]: REMOTE HANGUP: Call aborted,  from +FK or <CAN>
(code 2)
Aug 10 10:48:37.17: [29651]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 10 10:48:37.18: [29651]: SEND: Unable to transmit page (giving up after
3 attempts); Giving up after 3 attempts to send same page
"docq/doc766.cover;40", dirnum 0
Aug 10 10:48:37.18: [29651]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]

Never can get it to send.  Does anyone have any experiences with this, and
can give me a clue how to debug these problems?  (Unfortunately, no, don't
know what machine type I'm trying to hit.)

System is HylaFAX 4.0pl1, running a ZyXEL 1496E modem with the stock
configuration file.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
-Alan

=============
Alan Sparks, IS Engineering Support
<asparks@nss.harris.com>
Harris Network Support Systems, Camarillo CA     (805) 389-2430

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:03:10 +1000
To: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
From: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Pb: Hylafax -rockwell Phase D error
Cc: michael@sa.lyppard.com.au, flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi David,

The change i was going to make was to the way hylafax handled a RTN only
letting it try successively reduced parameters on each retrain.  If the fax
was subsequently successful i would update the clients info file.
Obviously you might still end up multiple copies of the first page but it
should work after that.

There are two ways of doing this:
1) On receiving RTN hangup the call.  Update the client info file with
session params slighly below what you unsuccessfully tried.  Provided there
is enough retrys eventually the fax should get through.

2) Do the above on the run, in the same call.  This is much harder to
program.  To reduce speed on each try is relatively easy.  The main problem
is if the original attempt was 2D, hylafax would have a 2D mmaped file is
in memory which would need translating to 1D as it is transmitted.

I have not had much time lately, and both these changes affect the core of
the fax transmission in hylafax so i wanted to tread carefully if i did
anything.

Oh, and the biggest thing stopping the above getting done is that i do
_not_ have a test fax machine which exhibits this behaviour......it only
seems to occur on customer machines  :-(

- Robert

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:31:22 +0200
From: Rainer Krienke <krienke@uni-koblenz.de>
Organization: Uni-Koblenz
To: Alan Sparks <asparks@nss.harris.com>
CC: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Alan Sparks wrote:
> 
> I've a couple of FAX numbers we try to send to that seem to always come up
> with the following log:
> 
> Aug 10 10:48:32.67: [29651]: --> [2:OK]
> Aug 10 10:48:32.67: [29651]: SEND send MPS (more pages, same document)
> Aug 10 10:48:32.67: [29651]: <-- [9:AT+FET=0\r]
> Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: --> [7:+FPTS:2]
> Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: --> [2:OK]
> Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: SEND recv RTN (retrain negative)
> Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: <-- [6:AT+FK\r]
> Aug 10 10:48:37.17: [29651]: --> [8:+FHNG:02]
> Aug 10 10:48:37.17: [29651]: REMOTE HANGUP: Call aborted,  from +FK or <CAN>
> (code 2)
> Aug 10 10:48:37.17: [29651]: --> [2:OK]
> Aug 10 10:48:37.18: [29651]: SEND: Unable to transmit page (giving up after
> 3 attempts); Giving up after 3 attempts to send same page
> "docq/doc766.cover;40", dirnum 0
> Aug 10 10:48:37.18: [29651]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
> 
> Never can get it to send.  Does anyone have any experiences with this, and
> can give me a clue how to debug these problems?  (Unfortunately, no, don't
> know what machine type I'm trying to hit.)
> 
> System is HylaFAX 4.0pl1, running a ZyXEL 1496E modem with the stock
> configuration file.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any advice.
> -Alan
> 
> =============
> Alan Sparks, IS Engineering Support
> <asparks@nss.harris.com>
> Harris Network Support Systems, Camarillo CA     (805) 389-2430


Had the same problem some years ago. I think this subject has as well
been discussed in this list several times. What I found out, was that
the ZYXEL Model (and only this brand) had problems with sending fax to
some machines. The error was exactly  as described above. It looks like
a bug in the firmware. I even reprted it to zyxel but no reply. What I
did then was to use another modem. The result is that now we do not have
any problems sending fax to exacly those fax machines the zyxel was
unable to send to. 


Regards
Rainer Krienke
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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: "Alan Sparks" <asparks@nss.harris.com>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries? 
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:10:13 +1000
From: David Weiss <dweiss@vic.design.telstra.com.au>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> Message-ID: <009e01bdc489$5df6c920$30027297@asparks.nss.harris.com>
> From: "Alan Sparks" <asparks@nss.harris.com>
> To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
> Subject: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries?
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:04:49 -0700
> 
[...]
> Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: --> [7:+FPTS:2]
> Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: --> [2:OK]
> Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: SEND recv RTN (retrain negative)
> Aug 10 10:48:35.67: [29651]: <-- [6:AT+FK\r]
> Aug 10 10:48:37.17: [29651]: --> [8:+FHNG:02]
> Aug 10 10:48:37.17: [29651]: REMOTE HANGUP: Call aborted,  from +FK or <CAN>
> (code 2)
> Aug 10 10:48:37.17: [29651]: --> [2:OK]
> Aug 10 10:48:37.18: [29651]: SEND: Unable to transmit page (giving up after
> 3 attempts); Giving up after 3 attempts to send same page
> "docq/doc766.cover;40", dirnum 0
> Aug 10 10:48:37.18: [29651]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
> 
> Never can get it to send.  Does anyone have any experiences with this, and
> can give me a clue how to debug these problems?  (Unfortunately, no, don't
> know what machine type I'm trying to hit.)

Alan,

I too, am experiencing the "retrain negative" problem, and in the few
weeks since I first subscribed to the mailing list, there have been
several postings concerning this issue (although very little in the
archives). It seems therefore, that this is a common HylaFAX problem.

Here is what I know about it:

1. HylaFAX incorrectly encodes fax pages for transmission at 9600. In
particular, scan line 19 does not conform to the protocol specification:
it has a zero length run of white picture elements, followed by 187
fill bits and an end-of-line (measured by a protocol analyser). Scan
line 19 is the place where the tag line (ie., the string of text at
the top of every fax page) is spliced to the main page body, so
perhaps the spice routine is failing (I blame Geri Haliwell for that!).

2. Since scan line 19 is blank, many receiving devices accept this
protocol error without complaint. The more pedantic implementations
however, do not. Instead, a "retrain negative" is returned. From the
ITU T.30 (Blue book 1988) page 112:

		Post-message responses

		Retrain negative (RTN) - To indicate that the previous message 
		has not been satisfactorily received. However, further
		receptions may be possible, provided training and/or phasing
		are retransmitted.

You may be interested in comparing this with the definition of the
"retrain positive" primitive, also page 112:

		Retrain positive (RTP) - To indicate that a complete message
		has been received and that additional messages may follow
		after retransmission of training and/or phasing and CFR.

3. There has been some discussion concerning the "correct" response to 
an RTN, and whether HylaFAX is doing it or not. I'm not sure about
that. I do know however, that HylaFAX actually responds to the RTN by
retransmitting the badly encoded page. The receiving device replies with 
another RTN, and so on, until some error limit is reached. In my case
that limit is reached after 9 transmissions of the first page, all of
which I might add, are actually printed by the receiving device and
appear as successful transmissions.

4. Regarding the HylaFAX report; "REMOTE HANGUP". I have noticed that
in a slightly different context HylaFAX claimed that the remote
device had hung up, when in fact it was the transmitting device that
had disconnected the call (as detected by a protocol analyser).
Therefore, the veracity of this report is suspect.
Furthermore, even when HylaFAX transmits to a less-critical receiving
device and no RTN is returned, the transmission if eventually
concluded by the transmitting device disconnecting the call, in the
middle of the sign-off sequence. This usually results in the receiving 
device displaying some sort of error message on its console, but since 
the page(s) got through, the error is frequently not noticed or simply
ignored. 

5. If HylaFAX can be persuaded to transmit at 2400 b/s, rather than
9600, the encoding error sometimes disappears, and so too, do the RTNs.
The difficulty here is in persuading HylaFAX to use 2400 for certain
targets. This is a non-trivial exercise. None of the techniques
described in the documentation (sendfax -B, destctrls) actually
functioned (for me) as advertised. Of course, this could be due to my
ignorance, lack of experience etc, and so I welcome correction.
However I tried everything I could think of for several days with
limited success. The _only_ approach that worked, required hacking of
FaxMachineInfo.c++ to ignore the "info" files, so that the -B option
to sendfax, actually had an effect. 

This last paragraph is not really relevant to your question, but I've
included it in case you are interested in how I resolved my problem.
In turn, I would be interested in your experience, in particular any
light you could shed on configuring HylaFAX (using destctrls etc) 
would be most useful.

thanks
David

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:29:34 +1000
To: David Weiss <dweiss@vic.design.telstra.com.au>,
        "Alan Sparks" <asparks@nss.harris.com>
From: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries? 
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

At 11:10 AM 8/11/98 +1000, David Weiss wrote:
>Here is what I know about it:
>
>1. HylaFAX incorrectly encodes fax pages for transmission at 9600. In
>particular, scan line 19 does not conform to the protocol specification:
>it has a zero length run of white picture elements, followed by 187
>fill bits and an end-of-line (measured by a protocol analyser). Scan
>line 19 is the place where the tag line (ie., the string of text at
>the top of every fax page) is spliced to the main page body, so
>perhaps the spice routine is failing (I blame Geri Haliwell for that!).

Ouch!!! - Looks like a encoding error after all, looks like my previous
advice was wrong.  I had thought the some receiving faxes were not
interpretting data correctly. It's hylafaxes fault after all....

>3. There has been some discussion concerning the "correct" response to 
>an RTN, and whether HylaFAX is doing it or not. I'm not sure about
>that. I do know however, that HylaFAX actually responds to the RTN by
>retransmitting the badly encoded page. The receiving device replies with 
>another RTN, and so on, until some error limit is reached. In my case
>that limit is reached after 9 transmissions of the first page, all of
>which I might add, are actually printed by the receiving device and
>appear as successful transmissions.

I might still do what i had previously outlined forcing hylafax to reduce
its requirements on each retrain.

>5. If HylaFAX can be persuaded to transmit at 2400 b/s, rather than
>9600, the encoding error sometimes disappears, and so too, do the RTNs.
>The difficulty here is in persuading HylaFAX to use 2400 for certain
>targets. This is a non-trivial exercise. None of the techniques
>described in the documentation (sendfax -B, destctrls) actually
>functioned (for me) as advertised. Of course, this could be due to my
>ignorance, lack of experience etc, and so I welcome correction.
>However I tried everything I could think of for several days with
>limited success. The _only_ approach that worked, required hacking of
>FaxMachineInfo.c++ to ignore the "info" files, so that the -B option
>to sendfax, actually had an effect. 

You could hand edit the info file to force 2400.  A reducing requirement on
each retrain would presumably do the same thing.


Very much thanks David!! - the protocol analyzer really helped to sort out
the problem.   i might even go buy some Telstra shares ;-)

Now i guess the main problem is to find tag line bug.

PS Hi again Alan!

- Robert

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries? 
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:21:01 +1000
From: David Weiss <dweiss@vic.design.telstra.com.au>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi Robert,

> You could hand edit the info file to force 2400.  A reducing requirement on
> each retrain would presumably do the same thing.

Yup, tried that. Even locked it down (with an &). This did cause the
transmission to occur at 2400, however the RTNs and retransmissions
were still there. It seems therefore that the encoding error is
introduced into the data stream regardless of the info file setting. I 
am still puzzled why the "sendfax -B 2400" should not also cause the
encoding error. If anyone knows how all the multiple levels of
configuration (info files, command line parms, destctrls,
user-specific configs etc) all work together and what takes precedence 
over what and when, I would be very grateful for a detailed
explanation. Wading through the source is very un-enlightening.

Also fiddled around with Class2Modem::sendPhaseB() to make HylaFAX
actually train down, on receipt of an RTN (something like how it
currently handles RTP -- why they are handled differently is beyond me).
Specifically lowering the speed with info.setMaxSignallingRate( BR_2400 )
had no affect. Perhaps HylaFAX can't alter the speed once a connection 
is established?

> Very much thanks David!! - the protocol analyzer really helped to sort out
> the problem.   i might even go buy some Telstra shares ;-)
> 
> Now i guess the main problem is to find tag line bug.

It would be great if you could fix that bug -- good luck.

David

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:56:36 +1000
To: David Weiss <dweiss@vic.design.telstra.com.au>
From: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries? 
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi David,

Been looking at faxd/TagLine.c++ around lines 270-299 in imageTagLine()
function.  There's some suspicious looking stuff particularly a rather
obvious comment around line 290 that might be the source.

I am still trying to figure out what is going on.  Talk to you soon.

- Robert

At 14:21 11/08/98 +1000, David Weiss wrote:
>Hi Robert,
>
>> You could hand edit the info file to force 2400.  A reducing requirement on
>> each retrain would presumably do the same thing.
>
>Yup, tried that. Even locked it down (with an &). This did cause the
>transmission to occur at 2400, however the RTNs and retransmissions
>were still there. It seems therefore that the encoding error is
>introduced into the data stream regardless of the info file setting. I 
>am still puzzled why the "sendfax -B 2400" should not also cause the
>encoding error. If anyone knows how all the multiple levels of
>configuration (info files, command line parms, destctrls,
>user-specific configs etc) all work together and what takes precedence 
>over what and when, I would be very grateful for a detailed
>explanation. Wading through the source is very un-enlightening.
>
>Also fiddled around with Class2Modem::sendPhaseB() to make HylaFAX
>actually train down, on receipt of an RTN (something like how it
>currently handles RTP -- why they are handled differently is beyond me).
>Specifically lowering the speed with info.setMaxSignallingRate( BR_2400 )
>had no affect. Perhaps HylaFAX can't alter the speed once a connection 
>is established?
>
>> Very much thanks David!! - the protocol analyzer really helped to sort out
>> the problem.   i might even go buy some Telstra shares ;-)
>> 
>> Now i guess the main problem is to find tag line bug.
>
>It would be great if you could fix that bug -- good luck.
>
>David
> 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:43:29 +0200
From: Matthias Apitz <Matthias.Apitz@Sisis.de>
To: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
Cc: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Faxsurvey security hole: How to patch?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Mon, Aug 10, 1998 at 04:39:08PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> 
> So I've been thinking about the faxsurvey security hole, and while
> thinking somebody took *ANOTHER* shot at my password file through my
> web server and that script (which failed, fortunately!)
> 
> Should I write a patch for the source code to delete faxsurvey and all
> references to it? Or should I write an after-installation patch to
> replace it with a "disabled for security" message?

No need for a patch. I'll delete the script from the source
distribution in pl3 (until someone writes a better one).

	matthias

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:37:52 +0200
From: Thomas Stinner <thomas@pop-siegen.de>
Organization: Internet PoP Siegen
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Unable to compile Hylafax 4.0pl2 under Redhat 5.1/AXP
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

I try to use Hylafax 4.0pl2 under Redhat Linux 5.1 / AXP (alpha).
faxgetty, faxq and most other tools are already running.

However, i am unable to get hfaxd to compile. (btw, compiler is egcs
1.0.2).

When compiling FileSytem.c++ i get lots of warnings similar to these:

FileSystem.c++:200: warning: assuming & on
HylaFAXServer::listStatus(_IO_FILE *
, const SpoolDir &, __dirstream *)'

When compiling HylaFAXServer.c++ i get the following errors:

HylaFAXServer.c++:668: generic thunk code fails for method `void
HylaFAXServer::
configError(const char * ...)' which uses `...'
HylaFAXServer.c++:668: generic thunk code fails for method `void
HylaFAXServer::
configTrace(const char * ...)' which uses `...'

Im not an C++ - Guru and haven't seen this error before. Can someone
explain me what's going wrong here? The line number is the last line in
the file, but the methods are in line 634 resp. 643.

Thanks in advance for any help.

-- 
Till soon
     Thomas
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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:11:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Maged Hassan <Maged.Hassan.meehassa@nt.com>
Cc: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: RE: HylaFax Help!!
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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Maged, I'm taking a minor liberty and forwarding your question to the list,
because this is a new one on me.

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Maged Hassan wrote:

> Thanks a lor your fast reply. ok, I did that and It worked, thanks,
> now, I am having another problem . I hope you can help with this one.. I
> don't know which patch to use..

You're welcome. Let's see....

> maged[120]% make
> = port
> = zlib
> = regex
> = util
> = faxalter
> = faxcover
> = faxd
> /usr/local/bin/gcc        -D__ANSI_CPP__ -I. -I.. -I.././faxd  -I.././util
> -I/op
> t/local/tiff/include -I.././regex -g -O -o faxq DestControl.o  DestInfo.o
> Job.o
>   HylaClient.o  Modem.o  QLink.o  Trigger.o  TriggerRef.o   faxQueueApp.o
> libfax
> server.a   -L/usr/local/lib  ../util/libfaxutil.a ../port/libport.a
> -L/opt/local
> /tiff/lib -ltiff -L../zlib -lz -L../regex -lregex -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> -lmalloc

??? Where did this /tiff/lib definition come from? Or did it break a
"-L/opt/local/tiff/lib" for some reason?



> Undefined                       first referenced
>  symbol                             in file
> __10FaxRequestRC5fxStri             faxQueueApp.o
> readQFile__10FaxRequestRUc          faxQueueApp.o
> _._10FaxRequest                     faxQueueApp.o
> findRequest__C10FaxRequestUsUi      Job.o
> mkbasedoc__10FaxRequestRC5fxStr     faxQueueApp.o
> renameSaved__10FaxRequestUi         faxQueueApp.o
> writeQFile__10FaxRequest            faxQueueApp.o
> insertFax__10FaxRequestUiRC5fxStr   faxQueueApp.o
> ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to faxq
> *** Error code 1
> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `faxq'

I suspect the tiff library, but can't be sure.

			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries?
To: dweiss@vic.design.telstra.com.au (David Weiss)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:02:06 +0100 (BST)
Cc: asparks@nss.harris.com, flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> 4. Regarding the HylaFAX report; "REMOTE HANGUP". I have noticed that
> in a slightly different context HylaFAX claimed that the remote
> device had hung up, when in fact it was the transmitting device that

I think it means that the local modem dropped DCD before the computer
dropped DTR.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries?
To: rjc@trump.net.au (Robert Colquhoun)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:51:20 +0100 (BST)
Cc: dweiss@vic.design.telstra.com.au, asparks@nss.harris.com, flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> You could hand edit the info file to force 2400.  A reducing requirement on
> each retrain would presumably do the same thing.

Reducing speed on a failure is a legitimate thing to do for poor line
quality, but for a pure coding error it is useless, and for a coding
error introduced at source by a data underrun or race condition, any 
speed reduction should be permanent and independent of destination;
the fact that the problem is destination dependent would just indicate
a variation in the tolerance of the receiver to coding errors.  

Given the apparent modem dependence, it is possible that any underrun
or race condition may be in the modem.  In the case of an underrun,
particularly, it may be that some modems have less buffering than others.
In those cases there may be no reasonable work around, especially for
a multi-user platform, except for replacing the modem.

In particular, I'm concerned here that people are attacking the RTN symptom
when:

- they should be attacking the cause;

- RTN is being generated in error because the receiver can't distinguish
  between poor line quality and coding errors.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: mr@fto.de
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Mail-to-Fax gateway
From: Sascha Ziemann <szi@khs-ag.de>
Date: 12 Aug 1998 13:36:42 +0200
Lines: 6
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

"Michael Riedel" <mr@fto.de> writes:

| i want to restrict this gateway to certain numbers, any hints ?

that depends on your mailer. with qmail you have to reject special
numbers in your ~alias/.qmail-fax-default

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Michael Riedel" <mr@fto.de>
To: Sascha Ziemann <szi@khs-ag.de>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:05:30 +0200
Subject: Re: flexfax: Mail-to-Fax gateway
Reply-to: mr@fto.de
CC: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



To:             	mr@fto.de
Copies to:      	flexfax@sgi.com
Subject:        	Re: flexfax: Mail-to-Fax gateway
From:           	Sascha Ziemann <szi@khs-ag.de>
Date sent:      	12 Aug 1998 13:36:42 +0200

> "Michael Riedel" <mr@fto.de> writes:
> 
> | i want to restrict this gateway to certain numbers, any hints ?
> 
> that depends on your mailer. with qmail you have to reject special
> numbers in your ~alias/.qmail-fax-default

I'm using sendmail. 



Bye
   |\/|ichael Riedel

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Hylafax send allways with 98 dpi
From: Sascha Ziemann <szi@khs-ag.de>
Date: 12 Aug 1998 21:31:52 +0200
Lines: 6
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

how can I change the the dpi rate to 196? I tied to define the ps2fax
command and even changed the source of the ps2fax program, but Hylafax
sends allways 98 dpi? Is Hylafax not able to send with a higher
resolution?

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: Sascha Ottolski <alzhimer@cs.tu-berlin.de>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax send allways with 98 dpi
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:01:54 +0200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by derrick.elgro.co.uk id HAA01888

On 12 Aug 1998 21:31:52 +0200 Sascha Ziemann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> how can I change the the dpi rate to 196? I tied to define the ps2fax
> command and even changed the source of the ps2fax program, but Hylafax
> sends allways 98 dpi? Is Hylafax not able to send with a higher
> resolution?
> 
man sendfax:

commandline:
-m          Transmit  the  facsimile  at a vertical resolution of 196 
lines/inch; otherwise known as medium resolution or fine mode.

/usr/lib/fax/hylarc:
VRes             float      98.          vertical resolution


You can also define the default resolution at compile time (don't know exactly 
if this will be hardcoded or just put into a config-file).

Greetings, Sascha

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:19:21 +0900
To: flexfax@sgi.com
From: Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com>
Subject: flexfax: Hlyafax 4.0pl2 for RH Linux 5.0 and 5.1
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

I have created^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hhacked a SPEC file and a set of patches for
Hylafax 4.0pl2 for RH Linux 5.0 and 5.1.

For 5.1, to get things to compile with egcs, I had to patch a few C++ files
to fix up things that were acepted by gcc but not by egcs. 

While everything now builds under RH Linux 5.0 and 5.1, I have not yet
tested the lot, which I won't be able to do until Saturday (Sunday, US time).

However, if anyone is interested, I can forward the SPEC file and the patch
file to the list.  Those who know how to build RPMs from source and a SPEC
file may be interested.

In any event, here are the patches for Hylafax 4.0pl2 to allow it to
compile under egcs:

-------------------------------------8<-------------------
--- hylafax-v4.0pl2/util/SendFaxClient.c++	Sat Feb 14 21:17:24 1998
+++ hylafax-v4.0pl2-new/util/SendFaxClient.c++	Wed Aug 12 22:08:57 1998
@@ -457,11 +457,11 @@
 	if (info.rule->getResult() == TypeRule::TIFF) {
 	    fileSent = setFormat(FORM_TIFF)
 		    && setType(TYPE_I)
-		    && sendData(fd, FaxClient::storeTemp, info.doc, emsg);
+		    && sendData(fd, &FaxClient::storeTemp, info.doc, emsg);
 	} else {
 	    fileSent = setFormat(FORM_PS)
 	    	    && setType(TYPE_I)		// XXX TYPE_A???
-		    && sendZData(fd, FaxClient::storeTemp, info.doc, emsg);
+		    && sendZData(fd, &FaxClient::storeTemp, info.doc, emsg);
 	}
 	Sys::close(fd);
 	if (!fileSent) {
--- hylafax-v4.0pl2/util/SendFaxJob.c++	Sat Feb 14 21:17:24 1998

+++ hylafax-v4.0pl2-new/util/SendFaxJob.c++	Wed Aug 12 22:07:02 1998
@@ -496,7 +496,7 @@
 	fxBool fileSent = 
 	       client.setFormat(FaxClient::FORM_PS)
 	    && client.setType(FaxClient::TYPE_I)	// XXX??? TYPE_A
-	    && client.sendZData(fd, FaxClient::storeTemp, coverDoc, emsg);
+	    && client.sendZData(fd, &FaxClient::storeTemp, coverDoc, emsg);
 	Sys::close(fd);
 	if (!fileSent) {
 	    if (emsg == "")
--- hylafax-v4.0pl2/hfaxd/OldProtocol.c++	Sat Feb 14 21:20:07 1998
+++ hylafax-v4.0pl2-new/hfaxd/OldProtocol.c++	Wed Aug 12 22:47:09 1998
@@ -604,9 +604,9 @@
 
#define	DEFINE_Alter(param)						\
 void OldProtocolServer::alterJob##param(const char* tag)		\
-    { applyToJob(tag, "alter", OldProtocolServer::reallyAlterJob##param); }\
+    { applyToJob(tag, "alter", &OldProtocolServer::reallyAlterJob##param); }\
 void OldProtocolServer::alterJobGroup##param(const char* tag)		\
-    { applyToJobGroup(tag, "alter",
OldProtocolServer::reallyAlterJob##param); }
+    { applyToJobGroup(tag, "alter",
&OldProtocolServer::reallyAlterJob##param); }
 
 fxBool
 OldProtocolServer::alterSuspend(Job& job)
@@ -752,9 +752,9 @@
 
#define	DEFINE_Op(op)						\
 void OldProtocolServer::##op##Job(const char* tag)		\
-    { applyToJob(tag, fxQUOTE(op), OldProtocolServer::do##op); }\
+    { applyToJob(tag, fxQUOTE(op), &OldProtocolServer::do##op); }\
 void OldProtocolServer::##op##JobGroup(const char* tag)		\
-    { applyToJobGroup(tag, fxQUOTE(op), OldProtocolServer::do##op); }
+    { applyToJobGroup(tag, fxQUOTE(op), &OldProtocolServer::do##op); }
 void
 OldProtocolServer::doremove(Job& job, const char*)
 {
---------------------------------8<---------------------------------

There are still a bunch of warnings that I don't like, but this will do for
now.



Regards
-------
Richard Sharpe, sharpe@ns.aus.com, NIC-Handle:RJS96
NS Computer Software and Services P/L, 
Ph: +61-8-8281-0063, FAX: +61-8-8250-2080, 
Samba, Linux, Apache, Digital UNIX, AIX, Netscape, Stronghold, C, ...

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:44:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hlyafax 4.0pl2 for RH Linux 5.0 and 5.1
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Richard Sharpe wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have created^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hhacked a SPEC file and a set of patches for
> Hylafax 4.0pl2 for RH Linux 5.0 and 5.1.
> 
> For 5.1, to get things to compile with egcs, I had to patch a few C++ files
> to fix up things that were acepted by gcc but not by egcs. 

*SIGH*. I think there is a published patch for the gcc-2.8.x
difficulties, and a copy is stashed at
http://cirl.meei.harvard.edu/hylafax/patches. There are other patches
there as well.  May I suggest that you look at these patches?

And look at the RPM written by Darren at ftp://ftp.tpc.int/,
referenced on my http://cirl.meei.harvard.edu/hylafax installation
notes for Linux? I would be happy to include your RPM in those notes.

			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: Sascha Ottolski <alzhimer@cs.tu-berlin.de>
cc: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Arlington Hewes' RPM for Linux under RedHat 5.1 
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:08:16 +0100
From: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

In message <"mail2.zrz..990:06.08.98.15.00.47"@TU-Berlin.DE>, Sascha Ottolski w
rites:
>
>Thats what I think. I did install the RPM last week and it worked out of the 
>box. However, a littel tweaking was necessary to get some of the statistic 
>scripts running.

Great!

>The problem (and the fix) was simple: In the scripts, the logfile was called 
>etc/xferstats and not etc/xferfaxstats.

Known problem, thought I had fixed all of those ;-) Will be fixed in the next 
version.

>raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu said:
>> 3. There is an unnecessary dependency in the HylaFAX rpm on the "mawk"
>> rpm, when "gawk" is more than sufficient for HylaFAX.
>
>Hey, thanks for pointing this one out. On my stock RedHat-5.1 xferfaxstats 
>produced wrong statistics (didn't make snseful things when using -since). 
>After about an hour of testing I changed $AWK in setup.cache and voila, now 
>the output makes sense.

I'll look into this. Thanks.

>Another small note: There seems to be a typo in the .spec-file. The output of 
>rpm -qi hylafax looks like this:
>
>Name        : hylafax                     Distribution: (none)
>Version     : 4.0pl2                            Vendor: (none)
>Release     : 1rh5                          Build Date: Fri May 29 02:22:13 
>1998
>Install date: (none)                        Build Host: roam
>Group       : Applications/Communications   Source RPM: 
>hylafax-4.0pl2-1rh5.src.rpm
>Size        : 4774865
>Summary     : HylaFAX(tm) is a sophisticated enterprise strength fax package
>Description :
>HylaFAX(tm) is a sophisticated enterprise-strength fax package for
>class 1 and 2 fax modems on unix systems. It provides spooling
>services and numerous supporting fax management tools.
>The fax clients may reside on machines different from the server
>and client implementations exist for a number of platforms including
>windows.
>
>#%package man
>#Summary:       man pages for %{name}
>#Group:         %{group}
>
>#%description man
>#This package includes the [uncompressed] man pages for %{name}.
>#
>#%package man-gz
>#Summary:       man pages for %{name}
>#Group:         %{group}
>#Provides:      %{name}-man
>
>#%description man-gz
>#This package includes the compressed man pages for %{name}.
>#
>#Note:  helptool obviously cannot search in compressed man pages [but
>#       curiously enough, it can search in compressed info pages !?].
>#       Use the uncompressed ones, if this is not what you want.
>#       The glimpse-rman-tkman combo e.g. can search compressed man pages.
>#
>#%package htmldoc
>#Summary:       html documentation for %{name}
>#Group:         %{group}
>#
>#%description htmldoc
>#This package includes the html documentation for %{name}.


Yes, that's because I've left all that crud in until I finalise the RPM. Which 
I hope to do tomorrow during a 6-hour flight! :-)


>But anyway, its a great package, thanks for the effort to build it!

Lots of names in the RPM change log, I'm just the most recent idiot ;-)

-DPN

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:55:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Sascha Ziemann <szi@khs-ag.de>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax send allways with 98 dpi
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On 12 Aug 1998, Sascha Ziemann wrote:

> how can I change the the dpi rate to 196? I tied to define the ps2fax
> command and even changed the source of the ps2fax program, but Hylafax
> sends allways 98 dpi? Is Hylafax not able to send with a higher
> resolution?

It certainly can: examine the options in "config.site" at compilation
time, and the options for the sendfax command. Of course, not all
fax machines *ACCEPT* 196 dpi.


			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: Sascha Ottolski <alzhimer@cs.tu-berlin.de>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax send allways with 98 dpi
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:01:54 +0200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by derrick.elgro.co.uk id HAA01922

On 12 Aug 1998 21:31:52 +0200 Sascha Ziemann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> how can I change the the dpi rate to 196? I tied to define the ps2fax
> command and even changed the source of the ps2fax program, but Hylafax
> sends allways 98 dpi? Is Hylafax not able to send with a higher
> resolution?
> 
man sendfax:

commandline:
-m          Transmit  the  facsimile  at a vertical resolution of 196 
lines/inch; otherwise known as medium resolution or fine mode.

/usr/lib/fax/hylarc:
VRes             float      98.          vertical resolution


You can also define the default resolution at compile time (don't know exactly 
if this will be hardcoded or just put into a config-file).

Greetings, Sascha

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Subject: flexfax: still getting job timeouts
To: flexfax@sgi.com (Hylafax Mailing List)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:11:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

	Sight, I am *still* getting job timeouts! I have added the -k option to
	snedfax. As in:



			/opt/hylafax/bin/sendfax  \
			-D -c "\"$COMMENTS\"" \
			-r "\"$REGARDING\"" \
			-x "\"$TO_COMPANY\"" -y "\"$TO_COMPANYLOCATION\"" \
			-d "\"$RECIPIENT"\"@$PHONE_NUMBER \
			-k "\"now +48 hours\"" \
			/tmp/scan$$/*
>

	How can I troubleshoot/solve this problem? I know have all the peices
	in place to be ablt to use my Hylafax system for large qunatity (for
	me) fax. This will be a couple of hundred pages per day, all submited
	by scaning in documnets. Each job will b 20 pages or so. I have whough
	spool disks space now, but ca't seem to get ast this timeout issue.


>Your facsimile job to 17709967186 could not be completed before the appointed deadline.
>
>    ---- Unsent job status ----
>
>   Destination: 17709967186
>         JobID: 287
>       GroupID: 287
>        Sender: Stan Brown
>      Mailaddr: stan@kodiak
>Submitted From: kodiak.fas.com
>    Page Width: 215 (mm)
>   Page Length: 279 (mm)
>    Resolution: 98 (lpi)
>        Status: Blocked by concurrent jobs
>       Dialogs: 0 (exchanges with remote device)
>         Dials: 0 (consecutive failed calls to destination)
>         Calls: 0 (total phone calls placed)
>         Pages: 0 (pages transmitted)
>      TotPages: 0 (total pages to transmit)
>      Attempts: 0 (attempts to send current page)
>        Dirnum: 0 (directory of next page to send)
>
>    ---- Documents submitted for transmission ----
>
>The following documents were submitted for transmission and are
>available on the server for reuse until they are automatically
>purged when this job is removed.  Documents may also be manually
>removed using the faxrm command; consult faxrm(1) for information.
>
>Filename                 Size Type
>docq/doc287.cover      103876 PostScript cover page
>docq/doc1661.ps.287   1074041 PostScript
>docq/doc1662.ps.287   1487906 PostScript
>docq/doc1663.ps.287   1444715 PostScript
>docq/doc1664.ps.287   1413799 PostScript
>docq/doc1665.ps.287   1336544 PostScript
>docq/doc1666.ps.287     32241 PostScript
>docq/doc1667.ps.287   2550021 PostScript
>docq/doc1668.ps.287   2548084 PostScript
>docq/doc1669.ps.287   1660389 PostScript
>docq/doc1670.ps.287   1651159 PostScript
>docq/doc1671.ps.287   1537879 PostScript
>docq/doc1672.ps.287   1702060 PostScript
>docq/doc1673.ps.287   1593306 PostScript
>docq/doc1674.ps.287   1200604 PostScript
>docq/doc1675.ps.287    650306 PostScript
>docq/doc1676.ps.287   2676312 PostScript
>


-- 
Stan Brown     stanb@netcom.com                                    770-996-6955
Factory Automation Systems
Atlanta Ga.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
	minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a
	16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit
	microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit
	of competition.
-
(c) 1998 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 21:04:54 +0900
To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com>
Subject: flexfax: TrueType Fonts to AFM?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

I am looking for a way to convert true type font files to AFM font files so
I can experiment with some fonts that I have in true type for Win 95 but
want to use with ghostscript.

Does anyone know of a way to do it?



Regards
-------
Richard Sharpe, sharpe@ns.aus.com, NIC-Handle:RJS96
NS Computer Software and Services P/L, 
Ph: +61-8-8281-0063, FAX: +61-8-8250-2080, 
Samba, Linux, Apache, Digital UNIX, AIX, Netscape, Stronghold, C, ...

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Subject: Re: flexfax: Multitechs getting stuck
To: Mark@Misty.com (Mark G. Thomas)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Larry Lipstone" <lrl@StoneWare.COM>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Organization: StoneWare Consulting, Inc.
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Mark G. Thomas wrote...
> 
> I'm still having this problem where Multitech MT2835BR and MT2834ZDX modems
> get slighly stuck after a no-answer call.  Usually this goes unnoticed
> since faxgetty unwedges things, however sometimes it causes premature
> send fax rejections, if a send attempt hits the modem immediately following
> one of these no-answer fax-send attempts.
> 
> Note the timeout below.  I would be most interested in info from
> any Multitech users with 2834 modems who are not getting these timeouts
> after no-answer calls.

Sorry not to have an answer for this, but I have exactly the same
timeout behavior with my 2834ZDX and never noticed it until I went to
try on mine to see if I could reproduce your problem.  I switched to the
2834 a couple months ago after my trusty old WorldBlazer died.

Please do post if you find a solution.

Larry Lipstone
StoneWare Consulting, Inc.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:25:07 +0100
To: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: TrueType Fonts to AFM?
Cc: Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

At 21:04 13/08/98 +0900, Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am looking for a way to convert true type font files to AFM font files so
>I can experiment with some fonts that I have in true type for Win 95 but
>want to use with ghostscript.
>

Hi, Richard. 

There is a program which will convert truetype fonts into postscript fonts.
Details can be found (a few months ago, now) at :

	http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsaw/fonts/

which is a ftp-like directory listing with a readme underneath.

It is a simple program, which produces Type 3 .pfa and .afm font files, the
afm fonts being the ones that faxmail/textfmt are interested in.

I tried it with the Garamond truetype fonts, popped the resulting .afm files
in the HylaFAX afm font directory, changed the hyla.conf 'TextFont' tag and
off we went. The output looks certainly better, IMO, than the usual Courier
or Helvetica text. Never did get round to try Wingdings...  :)

Cheers,
Phil Watkinson,
Boston, UK.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Subject: flexfax: sendfax invokation question
To: flexfax@sgi.com (Hylafax Mailing List)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 23:25:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi, it's me. remeber the one who is trying to get a slow machine to handle
farily large faxes?

Well heres my latest frustration. I have thnaks to some kind help finaly
fiugred out that I need to use the -k option to sendfax to prevent them
from being deleted before they are sent:-(. I have also been corected on
the order of options. Now here is what my script is sending, and  the error
message:

/opt/hylafax/bin/sendfax -k "now +48 hours" -D -c "  " -r "" -x "" -y ""
-d "Stan Brown"@7453195 /tmp/scan6754/fax_page_no_00001.ps
sendfax: No destination specified.
usage: sendfax [options] [files]
(Read the manual page; it's too complicated).

Taking out the -k option corects this error message. The ""'s are options
not passed on this test.

My frustration level is getting a bit high here, and I could use some help.
Please.


-- 
Stan Brown     stanb@netcom.com                                    770-996-6955
Factory Automation Systems
Atlanta Ga.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
	minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a
	16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit
	microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit
	of competition.
-
(c) 1998 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
From: darren.nickerson@balliol.ox.ac.uk
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: still getting job timeouts   
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 04:56:45 +0200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


You wrote:

>        Sight, I am *still* getting job timeouts! I have added the -k option to
>        snedfax. As in:
>
>
>
>                        /opt/hylafax/bin/sendfax  \
>                        -D -c "\"$COMMENTS\"" \
>                        -r "\"$REGARDING\"" \
>                        -x "\"$TO_COMPANY\"" -y "\"$TO_COMPANYLOCATION\"" \
>                        -d "\"$RECIPIENT"\"@$PHONE_NUMBER \
>                        -k "\"now +48 hours\"" \
>                        /tmp/scan$$/*


You have placed the -k after the -d, and it will never get used. Ordering is 
important in sendfax args.

Move the -k to before the -d parameter, which should be last, and it should 
work.

-Darren

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Maged Hassan" <Maged.Hassan.meehassa@nt.com>
To: "'flexfax@sgi.com'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: CID problem!!
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:17:49 -0400
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hi,
>    ok, I have another question for you. I downloaded a compiled version
> and I installed the server and client package.
> everything is working fine. now, I want to get the CID feature working...
> so I am not going to use for filtering.
> anyhow, I am getting CID REJECTED... 
> 
>    I am running HylaFax-v4.0pl1 on a Sparc (sunOS 5.5). ok, I have a CID
> rejection 
> problem. This is one of the files in the log/
> 
> Aug 05 17:12:20.30: [29490]: SESSION BEGIN 00000369 11234567890
> Aug 05 17:12:20.30: [29490]: ANSWER: CID REJECTED
> Aug 05 17:12:20.30: [29490]: SESSION END
> 
This happens for every incoming fax..

> I changed my config.cua_b file to support caller ID feature and I enabled
> the modem
> to do so:
> The modem returns this output after the first ring:
>     DATE = 1234
>     TIME = 1234
>     NAME = "blah"
>     NMBR = 11234567890
> 
> I added these lines to my config.cua_b :
> 
> QualifyCID:             /var/spool/fax/etc/cid
> CIDNumber:              "NMBR ="
> CIDName:                "NAME ="
> 
> my cid file look like
> 
> ^.*$
> 
> Any help would be really appreciated...  Thanks
> 
>   Maged
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Nico Kadel-Garcia [SMTP:raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu]
> Sent:	Tuesday, August 11, 1998 4:58 PM
> To:	Hassan, Maged [FITZ:8M83:EXCH]
> Subject:	RE: HylaFax Help!!
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Maged Hassan wrote:
> 
> > oh sorry, but I actually set it to /opt/local/tiff/lib
> > so while I was playing around. I decided to redo a ./configure...
> > and I got this error, I think this explains it (note that I didn't
> encounter
> > this error before)
> > 
> > ./util/xferfaxstats.sh.in is missing; this should be part of the
> > distribution.
> > 
> > Unrecoverable error!  Once you've corrected the problem rerun this
> script.
> 
> It looks like you ran my patch for the xferstats stuff as a "patch" rather
> than as a script, which I thought I clearly described in the FTP directory
> and
> at the head of the script. Some versions of patch cannot cope with a patch
> file that does not yet exist, so the shell script creates it, *THEN*
> does the patch.
> 
> 			Nico Kadel-Garcia
> 			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
> 			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
> 			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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> 
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> lnytJvcGso86SD/S1V8U6GURxzjXTZrWv9JKIboqZUI3GsROopMAe8EeH71mC7XV
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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:27:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Birnbaum <davidb@chelsea.net>
To: "Henrik Genssen, media factory gmbh" <mail@mediafactory.de>
cc: "'flexfax@sgi.com'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: network problems
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Henrik,

FTP is a two-piece protocol.  There is a control connection, which is
opened FROM you TO the machine you FTP on.  Then, there is a data
connection, which (transiently) is opened FROM the machine you ftp to TO
your machine on every data transfer comment.

Since STAT, USER, and PASS are working, but LIST (and presumably GET as
well) are failing, chances are the remote machine can't open a data
connection back to you.  I wouuld suspect your address translation is not
working in both directions, so when the remote machine attempts to open
the data connection back to you, it fails.  Check to make sure the IP
address you appear to be coming really maps back to your machine.  Your
NAT software ought to know how to do this, but may be configured
improperly.

Good luck.

David.

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Henrik Genssen, media factory gmbh wrote:

> Hi out there,
> I have a network problem with Hylafax.
> 
> After installing in on a linux 5.2 box it worked fine.
> I used whfc 8.8 (great tool! :-@) and had no problems...
> 
> Then I changed the IP Adress of the Linux box (from a 192 segment to an
> internet segment)  did some Network - Adress - Translation in between
> those two segments and I had no chance of working on. 
> 
> what I tried is:
> ftp to the Linux - Box works
> Telnet on Port 4559 works as well...
> I can login, do a STAT command
> but if I do a LIST command I get:
> 425 Cannot build data connection: Connection refused.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Henrik
> 
> 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Joe Phillips" <jaiger@acm.org>
To: "flexfax@sgi.com." <flexfax@sgi.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 98 22:57:58 
Reply-To: "Joe Phillips" <jaiger@acm.org>
Subject: flexfax: Comtrol RocketModem?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

hey all,

Anyone use the Comtrol RocketModem boards with HylaFAX?  Are there any
configuration gotcha's (problems with the modems)?

thanks,
Joe Phillips
jaiger@acm.org
  
-- 
Brought to you by the letters O and S and the number 2

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Mail-to-Fax gateway
To: mr@fto.de
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:46:48 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Reply-To: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> i want to restrict this gateway to certain numbers, any hints ?

If you mean certain destination numbers, it is very easy.  Simply create
program aliases for them and DO NOT implement a .fax pseudo-domain.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:11:28 +1000
To: Alan Sparks <asparks@nss.harris.com>
From: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Q: Retrain Negative -- Giving up after 3 tries? 
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi Alan,

I have found the bug in the tagline - there was a calculation mistake, the
author took away a quantity in bits when in should have been in bytes.
This put around 6-12 bytes of junk on the page at the end of every tagline.

This does not totally fix the problem when hylafax is asked to retrain it
should start again at a lower speed, it does not and you still sometimes
get these endless loops.

When i get the above figured out i will post the resulting patch to the
list, meanwhile the tagline patch is included below.

PS How's udjava going? - Ardent are taking an interest :-)

- Robert

-----------------------
diff -cr hylafax-v4.0pl2.orig/faxd/TagLine.c++
hylafax-v4.0pl2/faxd/TagLine.c++
*** hylafax-v4.0pl2.orig/faxd/TagLine.c++       Sat Feb 14 21:49:37 1998
--- hylafax-v4.0pl2/faxd/TagLine.c++    Thu Aug 13 08:53:22 1998
***************
*** 236,242 ****
       * adjusted by the look ahead, a factor of the number of
       * bits pending in the G3 decoder's bit accumulator.
       */
!     u_int decoded = dec.current() - roundup(dec.getPendingBits(),8) - buf;

      if (params.vr == VR_NORMAL) {
        /*
--- 236,243 ----
       * adjusted by the look ahead, a factor of the number of
       * bits pending in the G3 decoder's bit accumulator.
       */
!     u_int look_ahead = roundup(dec.getPendingBits(),8) / 8;
!     u_int decoded = dec.current() - look_ahead - buf;

      if (params.vr == VR_NORMAL) {
        /*
diff -cr hylafax-v4.0pl2.orig/faxd/tagtest.c++
hylafax-v4.0pl2/faxd/tagtest.c++
*** hylafax-v4.0pl2.orig/faxd/tagtest.c++       Sat Feb 14 21:49:46 1998
--- hylafax-v4.0pl2/faxd/tagtest.c++    Thu Aug 13 08:53:14 1998
***************
*** 269,275 ****
       * adjusted by the look ahead, a factor of the number of
       * bits pending in the G3 decoder's bit accumulator.
       */
!     u_int decoded = dec.current() - roundup(dec.getPendingBits(),8) - buf;
      if (params.vr == VR_NORMAL) {
        /*
         * Scale text vertically before encoding.  Note the
--- 269,276 ----
       * adjusted by the look ahead, a factor of the number of
       * bits pending in the G3 decoder's bit accumulator.
       */
!     u_int look_ahead = roundup(dec.getPendingBits(),8) / 8;
!     u_int decoded = dec.current() - look_ahead - buf;
      if (params.vr == VR_NORMAL) {
        /*
         * Scale text vertically before encoding.  Note the  


From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:37:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ronald Greenberg <rig@cs.luc.edu>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: followup/summary on faxing to line shared between voice and fax
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I'm following up on my question about faxing to a line that is first
picked up by an answering machine and then has a fax machine pickup
during the message and is supposed to respond according to whether or
not a fax is coming in.

I got three responses, of which the latter two apparently went to the
list.

The second response seems to be the one that has hit upon the right
issue, but it has led me to a new question.  Here's the second response:

  in theory yes, imho. Using modem settings it should be very possible to
  tweak the code to do almost anything... eg you may want to enable blind
  dialing and also set the modem to assume carrier is always on. AT<something>,
  have a look at your modem manual. Of course this eliminates your chance
  to identify a call to a real phone.
  
  Perhaps you just have a way to increase the time you wait for carrier
  for some 20 seconds to get past the initial voice message played by the
  remote fax machine, but I didn't find that in the documentation.

I didn't know how to pursue the first two suggestions, and I didn't
think the carrier wait time was the problem; after all, the modem
manual says the default waiting time is 45 seconds.  But when I set
ModemDialCmd in the config file to "*O\nDT%s@" so that the email
response after a sendfax shows all the modem settings, I found that S7
(carrier wait time) was 30 seconds.

I tried to set S7 to 45 and write that into the nonvolatile memory of
the modem by using the ModemDialCmd "S7=45&W\nDT%s@".  I got the right
waiting time for that particular invocation of sendfax (and my fax
went through).  But then when I set ModemDialCmd back to the normal
"DT%s@" and used sendfax again, the waiting time had reverted to 30.
I then tried using the "tip" command to send instructions straight to
the modem rather than via sendfax.  When I do ats7=45&w, I get the
right thing from at*o at that point.  In fact, I get S07=45 even after
doing "~^D", retyping "tip scout", and then doing "at*o".  But if I
wait a little while, and then use tip to recheck S7, it's back to 30.
How can I get it to stay at 45, without needing to encode that in the
config file?

******

In case you need more information regarding my system, here it is:

First, I'm using flexfax with binaries dated April 1994.  I can't find the
exact version, because I don't know where the source has gone.  (I know
this is old software, but I don't think this should matter.)

Second, the system it's running on shows the following with uname:
   machine hardware name: sun4c
   operating system release: 4.1.2
   system name: SunOS
   operating system version: 5
 Again old, but I don't think that should matter, either.

The modem is a DSI (Digicom Systems, Inc.) ScoutPlus.  I don't know
the firmware revision, but the manual is copyrighted 1992.  Also,
there is an old file of stuff about modems that has a page about bugs
on which the entry for Digicom Scout+ 2A19/2931 has been highlighted.
(I don't know where the modem is physically located, but I should be
able to track it down, if that will help.)

******

For completeness, here were the other two responses:

   You might want to drop that '@'. It is a good idea in theory - it waits
   for a 5 second silence before listening for a carrier, however it has
   caused me lots of trouble with not connecting.

I had originally asked about the "@", but dropping it didn't solve me
problem, and changing the waiting time did.

   you might have the same problem I have: While dialling, the modem sends
   its beep-tones to tell the other side it wishes to send a fax, but once
   someone
   picks up the phone and says something, the beeps stop...
   Has anyone a solution to this problem?

No, that's not my problem.  The beep tones keep going until there is a
timeout.  Sometimes, there's an FCERROR first; I'm not sure why.

R.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:16:57 +0200
Subject: flexfax: Com. problem with Hayes Optima 28800.
From: "Patrick Buseine" <buseine@rever.fr>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi all,

I'm running HylaFAX v4.0pl0 on AIX 4.1.5 with a Hayes Optima 28800 modem. I
use the oubound service only and I'm unable to send a fax, I'm getting the
following error during the communication with the Fax machine :

[...]
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: REMOTE best rate 14400 bit/s
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: REMOTE max page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: REMOTE max unlimited page length
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: REMOTE best vres 7.7 line/mm
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: REMOTE best format 1-D MR
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: REMOTE supports T.30 Annex A, ECM
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: REMOTE best 10 ms/scanline
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: USE 14400 bit/s
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: USE 10 ms/scanline
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: SEND file "docq/doc61.ps;00"
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: USE page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: USE unlimited page length
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: USE 3.85 line/mm
Aug 14 10:08:10.58: [38756]: USE 1-D MR
Aug 14 10:08:10.59: [38756]: SEND training at v.17 14400 bit/s
Aug 14 10:08:10.59: [38756]: <-- [9:AT+FTH=3\r]
Aug 14 10:08:10.88: [38756]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Aug 14 10:08:10.88: [38756]: <-- data [23]
Aug 14 10:08:10.88: [38756]: <-- data [2]
Aug 14 10:08:12.65: [38756]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Aug 14 10:08:12.65: [38756]: <-- data [6]
Aug 14 10:08:12.65: [38756]: <-- data [2]
Aug 14 10:08:13.13: [38756]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 14 10:08:13.13: [38756]: DELAY 75 ms
Aug 14 10:08:13.20: [38756]: <-- [11:AT+FTM=145\r]
Aug 14 10:08:13.41: [38756]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Aug 14 10:08:13.41: [38756]: <-- data [1024]
Aug 14 10:08:13.41: [38756]: <-- data [1024]
Aug 14 10:08:13.41: [38756]: <-- data [652]
Aug 14 10:08:13.41: [38756]: <-- data [2]
Aug 14 10:08:43.71: [38756]: MODEM <Timeout>
Aug 14 10:08:43.71: [38756]: Problem sending TCF data
Aug 14 10:08:43.71: [38756]: <-- [9:AT+FRH=3\r]
Aug 14 10:08:43.88: [38756]: --> [5:ERROR]
Aug 14 10:08:43.88: [38756]: MODEM Command error
Aug 14 10:08:43.88: [38756]: DELAY 1500 ms
[...]

It continues that way at 12000,9600,7200,4800, 2400 and finally : 

Aug 14 10:13:28.79: [38756]: SEND FAILED: Failure to train remote modem at
2400 bps or minimum speed; too many attempts to dial

Any ideas ? By the way, what is "TCF data" ?

Thanks much.

Patrick Buseine
buseine@rever.fr

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
From: darren.nickerson@balliol.ox.ac.uk
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: sendfax invokation question   
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:57:28 +0200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


You wrote:

> /opt/hylafax/bin/sendfax -k "now +48 hours" -D -c "  " -r "" -x "" -y ""
> -d "Stan Brown"@7453195 /tmp/scan6754/fax_page_no_00001.ps
> sendfax: No destination specified.
> usage: sendfax [options] [files]
> (Read the manual page; it's too complicated).

-d "Stan Brown"@7453195  is bogus, use -d "Stan Brown@7453195"

-Darren

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Mark G. Thomas" <Mark@Misty.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Multitechs getting stuck
To: lrl@StoneWare.COM (Larry Lipstone)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:01:06 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello,

> Mark G. Thomas wrote...
> > 
> > I'm still having this problem where Multitech MT2835BR and MT2834ZDX modems
> > get slighly stuck after a no-answer call.  Usually this goes unnoticed
> > since faxgetty unwedges things, however sometimes it causes premature
> > send fax rejections, if a send attempt hits the modem immediately following
> > one of these no-answer fax-send attempts.
> > 
> > Note the timeout below.  I would be most interested in info from
> > any Multitech users with 2834 modems who are not getting these timeouts
> > after no-answer calls.
> 
> Sorry not to have an answer for this, but I have exactly the same
> timeout behavior with my 2834ZDX and never noticed it until I went to
> try on mine to see if I could reproduce your problem.  I switched to the
> 2834 a couple months ago after my trusty old WorldBlazer died.

It is possible not to notice it for quite some time.  I noticed it
because I found that if the timing was right, a new job would fail 
completely because of the problem, during the period between a BUSY/NO ANSWER
send attempt and when faxgetty would next talk to the modem (several 
second window).

> Please do post if you find a solution.

I found someone else who did not have the problem, using firmware 
0316D, while I have the problem using the exact same config file and
modem settings, with firmware version 0313A.  This is not 100% conclusive 
yet, because other things about our hardware and software are probably 
different.

Since I'm also having the problem on a 2834BLR modem as well
as a 2834ZDX, I'm going to try flash upgrading the 2834BLR.

-Mark

> Larry Lipstone
> StoneWare Consulting, Inc.


-- 
Mark G. Thomas (Mark@Misty.com -- http://www.misty.com/)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax send allways with 98 dpi
From: Sascha Ziemann <szi@khs-ag.de>
Date: 14 Aug 1998 19:23:06 +0200
Lines: 5
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu> writes:

| Of course, not all fax machines *ACCEPT* 196 dpi.

What happens when a site does not accept 196 dpi?

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:02:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Birnbaum <davidb@chelsea.net>
To: darren.nickerson@balliol.ox.ac.uk
cc: Stan Brown <stanb@awod.com>, flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: sendfax invokation question   
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 darren.nickerson@balliol.ox.ac.uk wrote:

> > /opt/hylafax/bin/sendfax -k "now +48 hours" -D -c "  " -r "" -x "" -y ""
> > -d "Stan Brown"@7453195 /tmp/scan6754/fax_page_no_00001.ps
> > sendfax: No destination specified.
> > usage: sendfax [options] [files]
> > (Read the manual page; it's too complicated).
> 
> -d "Stan Brown"@7453195  is bogus, use -d "Stan Brown@7453195"

Most shells (ksh, csh, sh) will parse it properly either way.  You could
also say:  -d Stan\ Brown@7453195.  All the " does is tell ksh how to
build ARGV for passage to exec().

I was able to verify that the above works for sendfax; assuming you are
running the right sendfax command, it should work unless something you are
typing does not match what you printed above.

David.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 15:46:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax send allways with 98 dpi
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On 14 Aug 1998, Sascha Ziemann wrote:

> Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu> writes:
> 
> | Of course, not all fax machines *ACCEPT* 196 dpi.
> 
> What happens when a site does not accept 196 dpi?

Good question. I haven't tried it with a fax machine that old, so couldn't
swear to it, but I think they will negotiate the connection to 98 dpi.


			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:10:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim Rice <tim@trr.metro.NET>
To: Stan Brown <stanb@awod.com>
cc: Hylafax Mailing List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: sendfax invokation question
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Stan Brown wrote:

[snip]
> the order of options. Now here is what my script is sending, and  the error
> message:
> 
> /opt/hylafax/bin/sendfax -k "now +48 hours" -D -c "  " -r "" -x "" -y ""
> -d "Stan Brown"@7453195 /tmp/scan6754/fax_page_no_00001.ps
> sendfax: No destination specified.
> usage: sendfax [options] [files]
> (Read the manual page; it's too complicated).

Try taking out the -r ,-x, and -y options until you have something in them.

> 
> Taking out the -k option corects this error message. The ""'s are options
> not passed on this test.
> 
> My frustration level is getting a bit high here, and I could use some help.
> Please.
> 

-- 
Tim Rice			Multitalents	(707) 887-1469 (voice)
tim@trr.metro.net

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:12:05 +0200
From: Matthias Apitz <Matthias.Apitz@Sisis.de>
To: darren.nickerson@balliol.ox.ac.uk
Cc: Stan Brown <stanb@awod.com>, flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: sendfax invokation question
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 12:57:28PM +0200, darren.nickerson@balliol.ox.ac.uk wrote:
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> > /opt/hylafax/bin/sendfax -k "now +48 hours" -D -c "  " -r "" -x "" -y ""
> > -d "Stan Brown"@7453195 /tmp/scan6754/fax_page_no_00001.ps
> > sendfax: No destination specified.
> > usage: sendfax [options] [files]
> > (Read the manual page; it's too complicated).
> 
> -d "Stan Brown"@7453195  is bogus, use -d "Stan Brown@7453195"
> 
> -Darren

I think "Stan Brown"@7453195 is the same as "Stan Brown@7453195":

$ echo "Stan Brown"@7453195 > 1
$ echo "Stan Brown@7453195" > 2
$ diff 1 2
$ 

	matthias

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: Matthias Apitz <Matthias.Apitz@Sisis.de>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: sendfax invokation question 
From: darren.nickerson@balliol.ox.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 03:39:38 +0200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

In message <19980815101205.43359@sisis.de>, Matthias Apitz writes:
>On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 12:57:28PM +0200, darren.nickerson@balliol.ox.ac.uk wr
>ote:
>> 
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> > /opt/hylafax/bin/sendfax -k "now +48 hours" -D -c "  " -r "" -x "" -y ""
>> > -d "Stan Brown"@7453195 /tmp/scan6754/fax_page_no_00001.ps
>> > sendfax: No destination specified.
>> > usage: sendfax [options] [files]
>> > (Read the manual page; it's too complicated).
>> 
>> -d "Stan Brown"@7453195  is bogus, use -d "Stan Brown@7453195"
>> 
>> -Darren
>
>I think "Stan Brown"@7453195 is the same as "Stan Brown@7453195":
>
>$ echo "Stan Brown"@7453195 > 1
>$ echo "Stan Brown@7453195" > 2
>$ diff 1 2
>$ 

Yes, thank-you to all of you who so helpfully pointed out to me how brain-dead 
I was being. I will endeavour to engage my brain before letting my fingers 
loose again.

I am not reading the list mail as I'm on vacation and only a few messages are
filtered to me on such occasions, so I don't know if anyone actually addressed
the problem I was trying to help Stan out with. I hope your desires to educate 
me on shell expansion did not detract from the original plea for help!

-Darren

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 23:58:44 +0200
To: flexfaq@Sisis.de
Subject: flexfax: Cannot set privileges
From: Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@t-online.de (Tim Mueller-Seydlitz)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hi there,

I have been working just fine with HylaFax and experienced no problems
until I installed some software and modified the configuration for a
serial line modem.
Since I get the message :
Login failed: 550 Cannot set privileges.
when I call faxstat or faxsend...

Any clue?
Tim
Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@t-online.de

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:25:17 +0100
To: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Cannot set privileges
Cc: Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@t-online.de (Tim Mueller-Seydlitz)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

At 23:58 15/08/98 +0200, Tim Mueller-Seydlitz wrote:
>
>I have been working just fine with HylaFax and experienced no problems
>until I installed some software and modified the configuration for a
>serial line modem.
>Since I get the message :
>Login failed: 550 Cannot set privileges.
>when I call faxstat or faxsend...
>

The last couple of times this has come up on the list, it has been 
people using the SuSE Linux distribution with a hfaxd line in their
/etc/inetd.conf; something like :

hylafax stream  tcp     nowait  fax     /usr/lib/fax/hfaxd    hfaxd -I

The advice from Carsten Hoeger at SuSE is to remove it. 

If this fails, then techically, (and I hesitate to mention this) then
there is a serious problem with the chroot or chdir system call. 
Matthias can explain it better than I can :

>The reason for this reply in Login.c++ is a failing chroot(2)
>or chdir(2) call at line ~150 in Login.c++. Check why the hfaxd(1M)
>is unable to perform these calls. Maybe it's not started by root
>or installed without setuid bit turned on (e.g. mode 4755) or the
>root of the spooling area is a symlink to some other place.
>

Obviously I know nothing about the changes your new software has made; 
but I would be very surprised that any change to the hylafax config
files would have produced this error message.

mfG,
Phil Watkinson,
Boston, UK.	

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: 17 Aug 98 14:51:15 +1030
From: Michael Firkins <michael@sa.lyppard.com.au>
Subject: flexfax: (.au) Recomend modems please
To: Hylafax List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

                      Subject:                              Time:  1:31 
PM
  OFFICE MEMO         (.au) Recomend modems please          Date:  
17/8/98
Hi.
Australian Hylafax users: can you recomend modems available in Australia 
for reliable use with Hylafax? I am putting together a couple of 
servers and I've run out of previously reliable Simplemodem 144f's
If someone has put together a faq on this please refer me to it. 
Please note that US modems are not always available here, and may 
perform differently here due to the vagaries of our local phone 
network, which is both better and worse than the stateside one.

please and thanks,

Michael

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:32:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: "J. Carlos Cristobal" <carloscd@sistec.com.mx>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: HylaFAX on RedHat  5.0
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello:

   I'm having? some troubles while trying to make work Hylafax on a RH5.0
server, I got hylafax from the rpm for RH5.x release 7.

I have a US Robotics modem which supports Class 1 and 2.0, I have tried to
config it as class 1 and also as class 2.0, the problem is that I believe
it cannot initialitate
 because its always qith this message:

HylaFAX scheduler on server: Running
Modem modem (+391-5132): Waiting for modem to come ready

and the  logs say nothing about it, this what I get:

Aug 17 14:17:58 server FaxQueuer[407]: HylaFAX (tm) Version 4.0pl2
Aug 17 14:17:58 server FaxQueuer[407]: Copyright (c) 1990-1996 Sam Leffler
Aug 17 14:17:58 server FaxQueuer[407]: Copyright (c) 1991-1996 Silicon
Graphics

etc. but nothing saying that the modem is bein used or something like
that.
Do you know where can I see whats happenning?
Can you help me?

Thanks in advance :-)


-----------------------------------------------------------
J. Carlos Cristobal
carloscd@sistec.com.mx
ICQ:5942553

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Todd Chaney" <toddc@fastparts.com>
To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Multi-Tech Modem problems
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:52:23 -0500
Importance: Normal
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I have read the posts regarding problems with receiving faxes for the
Multi-Tech 2834 ZDX models.  I, however, am having problems even getting the
modem configured.  We are running HylaFAX ver 4.0pl2 on a FreeBSD (rel.
2.2.7) box, the MultiTech Modem is an MT2834ZDX with firmware ver. 3.16D.
The modem responds to kermit/cu/minicom etc.  At the end of the faxaddmodem
script the modem says that it appears hung, but then proceeds to correctly
identify the modem and make configs for it.  After running faxmodem, the
faxstate script insists that it is not configured.  Does anyone have any
advice?  I would surely appreciate it thanks.

Todd Chaney
FastParts Inc.
http://www.fastparts.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:42:54 -0400
From: WalterFeddern<wfeddern@home.net>
To: "flexfax@sgi.com" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Faxing PCL files
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I am running HylaFax 4.0pl0 on an RS/6000 model 43P, AIX 4.2.1; using a
Multitech ZDX2834 modem.

Are there any methods/utilities that will allow me to send a PCL file
using sendfax?

I need to be able to send out a fax page that contains a graphical
background with ascii text overlayed on it. I have code written that
performs the overlay and outputs PCL data describing the page. I need a
way to get the PCL data into a format that I can fax, or an alternative
way to do this in Postscript.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Walter.
wfeddern@home.net

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
X-Envelope-To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:24:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Josh Duncan <duncan@msmd.com>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: cover pages fail.
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello all...

I am trying to make a fax cover page template.  I edited the ps file as
per the instructions inthe faq, I have not had luck though in sending a
fax with the cover page.  I have included the error message from the
daemon below, and the ps file I am using as my cover page can be found at
www.msmd.com./~duncan/copy.ps.txt.

I think I have made the right macros(M, S, and IS) and the right
substitutions(/to, /sender, etc) but it gives me the errors shown below.
does anyone have any ideas?

Josh

----
Josh Duncan
duncan@msmd.org

God's like Comet(TM), nothing cleans better.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:14:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Duncan <jduncan@rand.com>
To: duncan@msmd.com
Subject: facsimile job 37 to 3036471 failed (fwd)



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:12:52 -0500
From: Facsimile Agent <fax@bedrock>
To: jduncan@rand.com
Subject: facsimile job 37 to 3036471 failed

Your facsimile job to 3036471 was not sent because
the document conversion script was not found.

    ---- Unsent job status ----

   Destination: 3036471
         JobID: 37
       GroupID: 37
        Sender: Josh Duncan
      Mailaddr: jduncan@rand.com
Submitted From: norton
    Page Width: 200 (mm)
   Page Length: 264 (mm)
    Resolution: 98 (lpi)
        Status: Unrecoverable error: undefined in s

Unexpected interpreter error -21.
Error object: s(d84)name(0x123e84#77)
Execution stack at 0x122b70:
0x12b9a0: 0x0f oper --F---e-- 0x0000 0x0004fd5c = %interp_exit
0x12b9a8: 0x12 str  --F-rxe-- 0x0000 0x00000000 = 
0x12b9b0: 0x03 file --L-rxe-- 0x0001 0x00133220
0x12b9b8: 0x0e null --F---e-- 0x0000 0x0005c94c
0x12b9c0: 0x03 file --S-rxe-- 0x0001 0x00125f30
0x12b9c8: 0x0f oper --F---e-- 0x0000 0x0005c8f0 = %runexec_finish
0x12b9d0: 0x03 file --S-rxe-- 0x0001 0x00125f30
0x12b9d8: 0x05 mpry --G-rxe-- 0x0039 0x0016295a
Dictionary stack at 0x1225b0:
0x12c1d0: 0x02 dict --Gwrx--- 0x0000 0x0012c338
0x12c1d8: 0x02 dict --Gwrx--- 0x0000 0x00176efc
0x12c1e0: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x0000 0x00131244
0x12c1e8: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x0000 0x001334c0
0x12c1f0: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x0000 0x00133d80
cat: write error: Broken pipe

       Dialogs: 0 (exchanges with remote device)
         Dials: 0 (consecutive failed calls to destination)
         Calls: 0 (total phone calls placed)
         Pages: 0 (pages transmitted)
      TotPages: 0 (total pages to transmit)
      Attempts: 0 (attempts to send current page)
        Dirnum: 0 (directory of next page to send)

    ---- Documents submitted for transmission ----

The following documents were submitted for transmission and are
available on the server for reuse until they are automatically
purged when this job is removed.  Documents may also be manually
removed using the faxrm command; consult faxrm(1) for information.

Filename                 Size Type
docq/doc37.cover        34866 PostScript cover page
docq/doc57.ps.37         6197 PostScript

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:12:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: "J. Carlos Cristobal" <carloscd@sistec.com.mx>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: modem init?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hello:

   I think I've advanced, I was  disabling faxgetty because I thought it
gave troubles to my internet connection, now what I,m getting is this:

Aug 18 15:41:10 server FaxGetty[478]: /dev/modem: Can not initialize
modem.

I've tried to make work as class2.0 and as class 1, the modem says its
supports both, but I still getting this, I've edited the config.modem by
hand  and  checked that all instructions are valid to my modem, but still
getting the same.

Any hint???


Thanks!!!

-----------------------------------------------------------
J. Carlos Cristobal
carloscd@sistec.com.mx
ICQ:5942553

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:57:08 +0800
From: Damian Ivereigh <damian@cisco.com>
Organization: Cisco Systems Inc
To: Michael Firkins <michael@sa.lyppard.com.au>
CC: Hylafax List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: (.au) Recomend modems please
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I have been using the Hayes Optima 336 (oz version) with no problems.
Mind you I have been using it in the city, rather than the bush!

Damian

Michael Firkins wrote:
> 
>                       Subject:                              Time:  1:31
> PM
>   OFFICE MEMO         (.au) Recomend modems please          Date:
> 17/8/98
> Hi.
> Australian Hylafax users: can you recomend modems available in Australia
> for reliable use with Hylafax? I am putting together a couple of
> servers and I've run out of previously reliable Simplemodem 144f's
> If someone has put together a faq on this please refer me to it.
> Please note that US modems are not always available here, and may
> perform differently here due to the vagaries of our local phone
> network, which is both better and worse than the stateside one.
> 
> please and thanks,
> 
> Michael

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:04:20 +1000
From: David Ford <ddf@comdyn.com.au>
Organization: Commercial Dynamics
To: Michael Firkins <michael@sa.lyppard.com.au>
CC: Hylafax List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: (.au) Recomend modems please
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Michael Firkins wrote:

>                       Subject:                              Time:  1:31
> PM
>   OFFICE MEMO         (.au) Recomend modems please          Date:
> 17/8/98
> Hi.
> Australian Hylafax users: can you recomend modems available in Australia
> for reliable use with Hylafax? I am putting together a couple of
> servers and I've run out of previously reliable Simplemodem 144f's
> If someone has put together a faq on this please refer me to it.
> Please note that US modems are not always available here, and may
> perform differently here due to the vagaries of our local phone
> network, which is both better and worse than the stateside one.
>
> please and thanks,
>
> Michael

Unfortunately I can't recommend a Netcomm SmartModem M7F.  We tried and
failed.  We're casting about for a more compatible modem, so if you find
another class 2 that will send "fine" mode faxes please let me know.

Best regards

David
____________________________________________________
David Ford                     |     Project Manager
Commercial Dynamics            |     02 9954 8216
L5, 100 Mount St, North Sydney | fax 02 9954 8250
NSW 2065                       | Australia   +61
http://www.tradingpost.com.au  | ddf@comdyn.com.au
---------------------------------------------------
 In the future,                | History is bunk.
 history will be big.          | Henry Ford
 David Ford  - Jan 1998        | 1863-1947
---------------------------------------------------

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:48:53 +0900
To: David Ford <ddf@comdyn.com.au>
From: Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: (.au) Recomend modems please
Cc: Hylafax List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

At 03:04 PM 8/19/98 +1000, David Ford <ddf@comdyn.com.au> wrote:
>Michael Firkins wrote:
>
>>                       Subject:                              Time:  1:31
>> PM
>>   OFFICE MEMO         (.au) Recomend modems please          Date:
>> 17/8/98
>> Hi.
>> Australian Hylafax users: can you recomend modems available in Australia
>> for reliable use with Hylafax? I am putting together a couple of
>> servers and I've run out of previously reliable Simplemodem 144f's
>> If someone has put together a faq on this please refer me to it.
>> Please note that US modems are not always available here, and may
>> perform differently here due to the vagaries of our local phone
>> network, which is both better and worse than the stateside one.
>>
>> please and thanks,
>>
>> Michael
>
>Unfortunately I can't recommend a Netcomm SmartModem M7F.  We tried and
>failed.  We're casting about for a more compatible modem, so if you find
>another class 2 that will send "fine" mode faxes please let me know.

Hmmm, this is strange, because I have found Netcomm SmartModems usable with
HylaFAX...

>Best regards
>
>David
>____________________________________________________
>David Ford                     |     Project Manager
>Commercial Dynamics            |     02 9954 8216
>L5, 100 Mount St, North Sydney | fax 02 9954 8250
>NSW 2065                       | Australia   +61
>http://www.tradingpost.com.au  | ddf@comdyn.com.au
>---------------------------------------------------
> In the future,                | History is bunk.
> history will be big.          | Henry Ford
> David Ford  - Jan 1998        | 1863-1947
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>
>

Regards
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NS Computer Software and Services P/L, 
Ph: +61-8-8281-0063, FAX: +61-8-8250-2080, 
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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:32:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: "J. Carlos Cristobal" <carloscd@sistec.com.mx>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: modem init?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hello:

   I think I've advanced, I was  disabling faxgetty because I thought it
gave troubles to my internet connection, now what I,m getting is this:

Aug 18 15:41:10 server FaxGetty[478]: /dev/modem: Can not initialize
modem.

I've tried to make work as class2.0 and as class 1, the modem says its
supports both, but I still getting this, I've edited the config.modem by
hand  and  checked that all instructions are valid to my modem, but still
getting the same.

Any hint???


Thanks!!!

-----------------------------------------------------------
J. Carlos Cristobal
carloscd@sistec.com.mx
ICQ:5942553

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Michael Riedel" <mr@fto.de>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:10:01 +0200
Subject: flexfax: (Fwd) Returned mail: unknown mailer error 255
Reply-to: mr@fto.de
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Need help...
Hylafax runs several days, but now ...

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
wunder@07161949517.fax

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
faxmail: Login failed: 530 User micha access denied..
554 wunder@07161949517.fax... unknown mailer error 255



Bye
   |\/|ichael Riedel

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: Stephen Weiss <STEPHEN@ESC.IE.Lehigh.EDU>
To: "'flexfax@sgi.com'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: FW: OLE Server & WHFC for NT
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:57:57 -0400
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

>Weird problem:
>
>The whfc program works w/out a hitch (well, there are hitches, but they're
>cosmetic) when a user is a member of group administrator.  However, if a user
>is just a User (or a Power User, or a Replicator, or any other god forsaken
>group), it gives the error whfc-ole server not found.  Even if whfc is
>running, it still gives the error.  One can send a fax manually without
>difficulty, it's just using the printing mechanism.  It's not a permissions
>problem - the hard drive is fully accessable by everyone.  Any light to shed?
> Thanks.
>
>(NT 4.0, WHFC 0.8.9)
>
>--
>Steve
>

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:47:46 +1000
From: David Ford <ddf@comdyn.com.au>
Organization: Commercial Dynamics
To: Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com>, Hylafax List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: (.au) Recomend modems please
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



Richard Sharpe wrote:

> At 03:04 PM 8/19/98 +1000, David Ford <ddf@comdyn.com.au> wrote:
> >Michael Firkins wrote:
> >
> >>                       Subject:                              Time:  1:31
> >> PM
> >>   OFFICE MEMO         (.au) Recomend modems please          Date:
> >> 17/8/98
> >> Hi.
> >> Australian Hylafax users: can you recomend modems available in Australia
> >> for reliable use with Hylafax? I am putting together a couple of
> >> servers and I've run out of previously reliable Simplemodem 144f's
> >> If someone has put together a faq on this please refer me to it.
> >> Please note that US modems are not always available here, and may
> >> perform differently here due to the vagaries of our local phone
> >> network, which is both better and worse than the stateside one.
> >>
> >> please and thanks,
> >>
> >> Michael
> >
> >Unfortunately I can't recommend a Netcomm SmartModem M7F.  We tried and
> >failed.  We're casting about for a more compatible modem, so if you find
> >another class 2 that will send "fine" mode faxes please let me know.
>
> Hmmm, this is strange, because I have found Netcomm SmartModems usable with
> HylaFAX...

Yup, thought it odd at the time, however an AT&F'ed M7F gets an "Unspecified
Phase B error" where the receiving fax simply appears to hang up just before
beginning to send the fax image.  We plugged in a Class 1 modem (clone brand)
and all was well.  Rather than burn time on the M7F we declared it unusable.
I'd love to see your configuration settings to see if they'll work with us.  If
they do it'll save us buying a Zyzel or other recommended modem to get Class 2
support.
Best regards

David
____________________________________________________
David Ford                     |     Project Manager
Commercial Dynamics            |     02 9954 8216
L5, 100 Mount St, North Sydney | fax 02 9954 8250
NSW 2065                       | Australia   +61
http://www.tradingpost.com.au  | ddf@comdyn.com.au
---------------------------------------------------
 In the future,                | History is bunk.
 history will be big.          | Henry Ford
 David Ford  - Jan 1998        | 1863-1947
---------------------------------------------------

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:11:12 -0700
From: Thidarat Pornkarnchananun <pornkarn@fsl.noaa.gov>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Got disconnected before SEND FILE
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi all,
Has anyone seen this problem before?
I run Hylafax v.4.0pl2 on HPUX10.20 and Linux with MultiTech2834ZDXb
faxmodem. On both platforms, the problem was the modem dialed out and
got connected but immediately disconnected. Here is what I found in the
system log file:

Aug 20 16:25:24 sudo: pornkarn : TTY=ttyp3 ; PWD=/var/spool/fax ;
USER=root
 ; COMMAND=/usr/local/sbin/faxsend -m cua0 sendq/q7
Aug 20 16:25:32 FaxSend[824]: MODEM MULTI-TECH SYSTEMS MT2834ZDX/0316A
Aug 20 16:25:32 FaxSend[824]: SEND FAX: JOB 7 DEST 7259 COMMID 00000008
Aug 20 16:25:38 FaxQueuer[772]: FIFO RECV "*7:c"
Aug 20 16:25:55 FaxQueuer[772]: FIFO RECV "*7:C"

Then everything's gone.  And in the log files:

Aug 20 16:25:32.50: [  824]: SESSION BEGIN 00000008 13037259
Aug 20 16:25:32.50: [  824]: SEND FAX: JOB 7 DEST 7259 COMMID 00000008
Aug 20 16:25:32.50: [  824]: DELAY 2600 ms
Aug 20 16:25:35.11: [  824]: <-- [15:ATE0V1Q0S0=0H0\r]
Aug 20 16:25:35.30: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:35.30: [  824]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&E4&D3&C1\r]
Aug 20 16:25:35.49: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:35.49: [  824]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=2\r]
Aug 20 16:25:35.67: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:35.67: [  824]: <-- [10:AT+FTBC=0\r]
Aug 20 16:25:35.85: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:35.85: [  824]: <-- [10:AT+FBOR=0\r]
Aug 20 16:25:36.03: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:36.03: [  824]: <-- [13:AT+FPHCTO=30\r]
Aug 20 16:25:36.21: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:36.21: [  824]: <-- [24:AT+FDCC=1,5,2,2,2,0,0,0\r]
Aug 20 16:25:36.41: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:36.41: [  824]: <-- [7:ATL0M1\r]
Aug 20 16:25:36.59: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:36.59: [  824]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=2\r]
Aug 20 16:25:36.87: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:36.87: [  824]: <-- [10:AT+FTBC=0\r]
Aug 20 16:25:37.15: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:37.15: [  824]: <-- [10:AT+FBOR=0\r]
Aug 20 16:25:37.43: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:37.43: [  824]: <-- [13:AT+FPHCTO=30\r]
Aug 20 16:25:37.71: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:37.71: [  824]: <-- [24:AT+FDCC=1,5,2,2,2,0,0,0\r]
Aug 20 16:25:38.01: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:38.01: [  824]: <-- [15:AT+FLID="         "\r]
Aug 20 16:25:38.30: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:38.30: [  824]: DIAL 7259
Aug 20 16:25:38.30: [  824]: <-- [10:ATDT7259@\r]
Aug 20 16:25:55.20: [  824]: --> [5:+FCON]
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: --> [57:+FNSF:00 00 79 00 00 00 16 0F 09 13
00 10 0
5 06 8D C0 50 ]
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: REMOTE NSF "00 00 79 00 00 00 16 0F 09 13
00 10 05
06 8D C0 50"
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: --> [21:+FDIS:1,3,0,2,1,2,0,4]
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: REMOTE best rate 9600 bit/s
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: REMOTE max page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm

Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: REMOTE max unlimited page length
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: REMOTE best vres 7.7 line/mm
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: REMOTE best format 2-D MR
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: REMOTE supports T.30 Annex C, half duplex
ECM
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: REMOTE best 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: USE 9600 bit/s
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: USE 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Aug 20 16:25:58.86: [  824]: --> [7:+FHNG:2]
Aug 20 16:25:58.86: [  824]: REMOTE HANGUP: Call aborted,  from +FK or
<CAN> (co
de 2)
Aug 20 16:25:59.51: [  824]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 20 16:25:59.51: [  824]: SESSION END

It seems to me like the software always hangs up the transmission before
SEND FILE happens.
Could any of you give me some hints what might cause this and how to
fix?
Any help would be very appreciated.
Best regards,
Thidarat
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thidarat Pornkarnchananun
pornkarn@fsl.noaa.gov
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Alex Paprottka" <alex@paprottka.com>
To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Zyxel Elite 2864ID
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:35:11 +0200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

my system: Hylafax Version 4.0pl2, Linux Suse 5.2, modem Zyxel 2864ID
firmware 2.11

Sending faxes with a.m. modem is fine however i'am having  problems to
receive faxes correctly with my Zyxel Elite 2864ID. I'am only getting white
pages with black lines (sample attached). Is there anything special i have
to consider with this modem which is not yet added to my Hylafax version?

Thanks in adavnce for your help.
rgds
Alexander Paprottka
alex@paprottka.com

--------------------------------------------------
GEBR. PAPROTTKA GMBH
POB 770, 22587 Hamburg
Phone: +49 40 863916
Fax: +49 40 867409
http://www.paprottka.com
____________________________

Attachment Converted: "C:\PROGRAM FILES\EUDORA\Attach\FAX document (1).tif"

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:51:12 +0200
From: Ulrich Eckhardt <Ulrich.Eckhardt@transcom.de>
Organization: Transcom
To: "'flexfax@sgi.com'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: FW: OLE Server & WHFC for NT
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Stephen Weiss wrote:
> 
> >Weird problem:
> >
> >The whfc program works w/out a hitch (well, there are hitches, but they're
> >cosmetic) when a user is a member of group administrator.  However, if a user
> >is just a User (or a Power User, or a Replicator, or any other god forsaken
> >group), it gives the error whfc-ole server not found.  Even if whfc is
> >running, it still gives the error.  One can send a fax manually without
> >difficulty, it's just using the printing mechanism.  It's not a permissions
> >problem - the hard drive is fully accessable by everyone.  Any light to shed?
> > Thanks.
> >
> >(NT 4.0, WHFC 0.8.9)
> >
> >--
> >Steve
> >

Hi,

have you installed service pack 3 ? If not please install it, because
it fixes some problems with ole. 

Uli
-- 
Ulrich Eckhardt       
http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/uli

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 16:54:00 +0200
To: flexfax@sgi.com
From: Sbragion Denis <infotecn@tin.it>
Subject: flexfax: Overriding ModemAnswerCmd default behaviour
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello,

I have some problem with the various HylaFAX answer commands
(ModemAnswerCmd, ModemAnswerDataCmd, ModemAnswerFaxCmd etc.) This commands
always wait for a specified response from the modem. Depending on the
command, they expect CONNECT, FAX or DATA. I need to make them wait for a
specified string or even for nothing. I already tried using the
<waitfor:XXXXX> escape sequences but they are simply evaluated before of
the default ones i.e. the escape sequence doesn't override the default
behaviour.

Any hint ?

TIA!

	Dr. Sbragion Denis
	InfoTecna
	Tel, Fax: +39 39 2324054
	URL: http://space.tin.it/internet/dsbragio

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Got disconnected before SEND FILE
To: pornkarn@fsl.noaa.gov (Thidarat Pornkarnchananun)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:00:22 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Reply-To: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: USE 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
> Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
> Aug 20 16:25:58.86: [  824]: --> [7:+FHNG:2]
> Aug 20 16:25:58.86: [  824]: REMOTE HANGUP: Call aborted,  from +FK or
> <CAN> (co
> de 2)

Hylafax aborted the call during phase B (option negotiation).  The legitimate
reason for this would be that the last time it called the number the remote
machine was prepared to accept a more efficient fax coding (possibly because
it is a modem pool and you got a different modem), an Hylafax has code that
way be now needs to regenerate the fax data.  If this is the case
(and the fax will go eventually in that case), use & to lock down the lower
specification in the info file.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:36:09 +0200
From: Christoph Bugel <cbugel@netvision.net.il>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: only half page comes through
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I am trying to send a text file with sendfax,
the fist half of the page comes through, but then there
is a half-empty page.
from the typerules I learned that the textfmt program is 
used to convert the text to postscript.
I tried the same command manually, and viewed the result
with ghostscript: no problem there.
the receiving fax machine reports an error on 
page xxx (the half one)

any hints? 
thanks

-- 
Christoph Bugel         cbugel@netvision.net.il

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: Garmann Bernhard <bernhard.garmann@netkom.de>
To: "'HylaFAX mail liste'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: automatic processing of received facsimile
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:41:15 +0100
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Greetings,

the article 'Automatic Processing of Received Facsimile' recommends
using
the faxrecvd script.
For automatic printing it is recommended, to use the fax2ps utility.

The goal is, to generate ASCII Text from the FAX message, that should be
parsed by an awk, or perl script, to extract certain fields and feed it
into
a data base application.
Also the same problem should arise, when distributing incoming FAX by
email through looking at the FAX header page 'To:' line and the
subsequent
name.

FAX is a bit mapped format, so the above conversion must convert
graphics
to text, which involves some character recognition scheme. These schemes
usually work only up to a certain level of accuracy and may miss a
character
here and there.

Question: 
How accurate and reliable can this conversion be done with the above
mentioned
command chain: fax2ps | ps2ascii | myParseScript.awk | bigDataBaseApp .

I am new to these details of the FAX protocols and welcome any hint I
could get,
also about new developments in the FAX protocols.

Regards,



Bernhard Garmann
Diplom Informatiker (FH)
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"Wenden Sie sich an den Hersteller, falls das Problem weiterhin
besteht."

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:33:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Garmann Bernhard <bernhard.garmann@netkom.de>
Cc: "'HylaFAX mail liste'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: automatic processing of received facsimile
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Garmann Bernhard wrote:

> the article 'Automatic Processing of Received Facsimile' recommends
> using
> the faxrecvd script.
> For automatic printing it is recommended, to use the fax2ps utility.
> 
> The goal is, to generate ASCII Text from the FAX message, that should be
> parsed by an awk, or perl script, to extract certain fields and feed it
> into
> a data base application.
> Also the same problem should arise, when distributing incoming FAX by
> email through looking at the FAX header page 'To:' line and the
> subsequent
> name.
> 
> FAX is a bit mapped format, so the above conversion must convert
> graphics
> to text, which involves some character recognition scheme. These schemes
> usually work only up to a certain level of accuracy and may miss a
> character
> here and there.

With fax, they miss a *LOT*. Don't expect better than 80% on a typical form
or graphic or handwritten fax.

> Question: 
> How accurate and reliable can this conversion be done with the above
> mentioned
> command chain: fax2ps | ps2ascii | myParseScript.awk | bigDataBaseApp .

ps2ascii works *ONLY* with Postscript that contain text entries. It is
useless for a bitmapped image such as a received fax. There is
unfortunately no good freeware for doing on-line character
recognition: there are a number of useful commercial packages, but
they are mostly for Windows boxes.

Your desire is reasonable and shared by many people. But frankly, your
clients should be using email or CGI in order to send you data for
your database. Using a graphic format (faxes) in order to transmit
numbers and letters is like eating soup with a broom....

			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: Garmann Bernhard <bernhard.garmann@netkom.de>
Cc: "'HylaFAX mail liste'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: automatic processing of received facsimile
From: Kevin Cheek <kcheek@umich.edu>
Date: 24 Aug 1998 17:59:49 -0400
Lines: 27
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Garmann Bernhard <bernhard.garmann@netkom.de> writes:

[snip]
> Question: 
> How accurate and reliable can this conversion be done with the above
> mentioned
> command chain: fax2ps | ps2ascii | myParseScript.awk | bigDataBaseApp .
[snip]

I don't think that will work. AFAIK, ps2ascii is not an OCR program,
it just extracts ascii text that already exists as text in a ps file -
it doesn't convert bitmaps into text.

You need to find an OCR program and then your procedure will look like:

fax (tiff) --> [OCR program] | yourParseScript.awk | bigDataBaseApp

Even with the very best OCR technology, I'm guessing you'll get very
poor results doing OCR on most faxes.

-Kevin

-- 
 Kevin Cheek <kcheek@umich.edu>
 University of Michigan, Department of Internal Medicine
 Divisions of Rheumatology and Molecular Medicine & Genetics
 "Dawn - the time when men of reason go to sleep."

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: faxmail fails on mime message/rfc822 
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:54:11 +0900
From: "Andrew S. Howell" <andy@tibco.com>
X-Dispatcher: imput version 980522
Lines: 19
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hello,

	Faxmail gets itself into an infinite loop when processing a
MIME message of Content-type: message/rfc822. From what I've found so
far, the problem seems to lie in faxmail.c++. The two member
functions:

	formatMIME
	formatMessage

recursively call each other, with nothing to stop the recursion. Does
anyone know if there is a patch for this?

If not, I'll take a whack at it.

Thanks,

	Andy

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:32:26 +0800 (PHT)
From: "William A. Villanueva" <wav@pacific.wave.com.ph>
To: flexfax@celestial.com
Subject: flexfax: sending text file
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


I've just installed Hylafax v4.0pl2 and trying to test it out.  I'm using
an ascii text file for my test and I'm getting this error, using the
command:  sendfax -d 7654321 filename.txt

I get this result:

Error converting data; command was "/usr/local/sbin/textfmt -B -f
Courier-Bond -p 11 -s default > /tmp//faxsnda31016 < rates.txt

 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I'm guessing that its being caused by the redirected output having the
double / between /tmp   but I couldn't figure out where this directory
configuration can be changed.  


Another question is, I can't get the faxgetty to work properly.  I'm using
mgetty for the setup so I don't have just plain /sbin/getty.  The hylafax
config calls for getty so I tried making a soft link pointing getty to
mgetty instead.  The problem is the modems won't connect and so the
calling system  will hang up.  However, the modem is still waiting for the
session to finish.  Running faxstat says: 

 modem ttyS1:  Waiting for login session to terminate   

Anybody using mgetty for hylafax?

Appreciate any suggestions.  I've searched through the FAQs and archives
but can't seem to find any thing on this.   Thanks again.

 ==================================================================== 
  Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we
  we do not see.  - Hebrews 11:1
 ==================================================== ICQ# 8313012 == 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: sending text file
To: wav@pacific.wave.com.ph (William A. Villanueva)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:57:10 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@celestial.com
Reply-To: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> I'm guessing that its being caused by the redirected output having the
> double / between /tmp   but I couldn't figure out where this directory
> configuration can be changed.  

Very unlikely; only MS systems object to excess \s, all the Unixes I
know eat excess /s.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: Bertrand Renuart <brenuart@switch.be>
To: "'flexfax@sgi.com'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Everything goes fine except no document is sent
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:58:08 +0200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello,

I'm a pretty new Hylfax user, so please don't complain if my question is
stupid or inaccurate.
Here is my problem:

1. I'm using the hylafax windows client to send document to the fax
server using a postscrit driver.
Everything works fine at this point: documents are correctly sent and
scheduled. I can even re-display them from the /docq directory.

2. The scheduler triggers as expected and tries to deliver the document.
The SendFax utility is notified and start its processing.
>From SendFax's log, I can trace the session, no error occurs. It
finished without reporting any warning/error.

4.
BUT no document were actually transferred despite the connection with
the remote fax machine was succesfull (I have all the informations about
this machine available in the 'info' directory and in the log).

IN ADDITION, if I look at the records in the 'doneq' directory, the
statistics indicate the following:
==>	total document pages:	0
	transmitted pages:	0
	result:			successfull

So what ? I expect having a problem with the PostScript to Fax
conversion... So, I modified the 'ps2fax' script so that it touch a file
in the /tmp directory (to be sure it has been called). 

Result: 
THE PS2FAX SCRIPT IS NOT CALLED DURING SERVER OPERATION ALTHOUGH IT
WORKS FINE (no error reported) IF I CALL IT DIRECTLY BY HAND.

Does somebody have any clue ?

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:58:45 +0200
From: Ulrich Eckhardt <Ulrich.Eckhardt@transcom.de>
Organization: Transcom
To: Bertrand Renuart <brenuart@switch.be>
CC: "'flexfax@sgi.com'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Everything goes fine except no document is sent
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Bertrand Renuart wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm a pretty new Hylfax user, so please don't complain if my question is
> stupid or inaccurate.
> Here is my problem:
> 
> 1. I'm using the hylafax windows client to send document to the fax
> server using a postscrit driver.
> Everything works fine at this point: documents are correctly sent and
> scheduled. I can even re-display them from the /docq directory.

Hi,

have you send faxes successful with the sendfax command on the HylaFAX
server ?

If so,
have you enabled "remove printer control sequence" in the system
settings
of whfc, because some Windows Postscript drivers sends some stuff before 
the normal postscript code which confuses ghostscript.

If this does not help, choose another postscript driver (have a look
on the FAQ and installation instructions of WHFC).

Uli 
-- 
Ulrich Eckhardt       
http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/uli

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: mic@schlund.de
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: faxmail fails on mime message/rfc822
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:23:45 +0900
From: "Andrew S. Howell" <andy@tibco.com>
X-Dispatcher: imput version 980522
Lines: 19
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Salzmann <mic@schlund.de> writes:

Michael,

	Thanks for the patch. I have to admit that I'm somewhat
disappointed though, as I spent more time than I would like to admit
tracing thought the code. I was hoping that I would have figured it
out by now :( Actually, I got as far a figuring out that formatMessage
was not getting the Content-type correct, but not how to fix it.

I'll apply you patch and get on with life :)

Thanks a lot.

Andy

P.S.

	Is there a central location for such patches?

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:04:38 +0200
From: Michael Salzmann <mic@schlund.de>
To: "Andrew S. Howell" <andy@tibco.com>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: faxmail fails on mime message/rfc822
Mail-Followup-To: "Andrew S. Howell" <andy@tibco.com>, flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 01:54:11PM +0900, Andrew S. Howell wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 	Faxmail gets itself into an infinite loop when processing a
> MIME message of Content-type: message/rfc822. From what I've found so
> far, the problem seems to lie in faxmail.c++. The two member
> functions:
> 
> 	formatMIME
> 	formatMessage
> 
> recursively call each other, with nothing to stop the recursion. Does
> anyone know if there is a patch for this?
> 

Hi,

I sent a patch to this mailing list some time ago. Here it is again. 



- MIC


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Salzmann
Schlund + Partner AG
Erbprinzenstr. 1                                            Tel.0721/91374-50
76133 Karlsruhe                                             Fax.0721/91374-20
http://www.schlund.de                                     salzmann@schlund.de


--SNIP------------------------------------------------
--- faxmail/faxmail.c++ Sat Feb 14 11:49:50 1998
+++ faxmail.local/faxmail.c++   Thu Apr  9 10:31:08 1998
@@ -448,7 +448,9 @@
 faxMailApp::formatMessage(FILE* fd, MIMEState& mime, MsgFmt& msg)
 {
     if (mime.getSubType() == "rfc822") {       // discard anything else
-       msg.parseHeaders(fd, mime.lineno);      // collect headers
+                               // 980316 - mic: new MsgFmt 
+      MsgFmt bodyHdrs(msg);            
+      bodyHdrs.parseHeaders(fd, mime.lineno);
        /*
         * Calculate the amount of space required to format
         * the message headers and any required inter-message
@@ -462,11 +464,11 @@
             * XXX, hack.  Avoid inserting a digest divider when
             * the sub-part is a faxmail prologue or related part.
             */
-           const fxStr* s = msg.findHeader("Content-Type");
+           const fxStr* s = bodyHdrs.findHeader("Content-Type");
            if (!s || !strneq(*s, "application/x-faxmail", 21))
                divider = msgDivider;
        }
-       u_int nl = msg.headerCount()            // header lines
+       u_int nl = bodyHdrs.headerCount()               // header lines
            + (nl > 0)                          // blank line following
header
            + (divider != NULL)                 // digest divider
            + 1;                                // 1st text line of message
@@ -477,10 +479,10 @@
            endLine();
        }
        if (nl > 0)
-           msg.formatHeaders(*this);           // emit formatted headers
+         bodyHdrs.formatHeaders(*this); // emit formatted headers
 
        MIMEState subMime(mime);
-       formatMIME(fd, subMime, msg);           // format message body
+       formatMIME(fd, subMime, bodyHdrs);              // format message
body
     } else {
        discardPart(fd, mime);
        formatDiscarded(mime);

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: faxmail fails on mime message/rfc822
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 09:59:55 +0900
From: "Andrew S. Howell" <andy@tibco.com>
X-Dispatcher: imput version 980522
Lines: 59
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Salzmann <mic@schlund.de> writes:

    Michael> On Mon, Aug 31, 1998 at 07:23:45PM +0900, Andrew
    Michael> S. Howell wrote:
    >> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Salzmann <mic@schlund.de> writes:

Michael,

	I just confirmed, with you message in fact, that the patch
works great. 

    Michael> I found out, that is is very difficult to debug faxmail
    Michael> :(. 

Well, I tried to do it with the help of my son. Unfortunately at a
year and 3 months, although he many comments, they didn't help too
much. :)

    Michael> The author(s) tried to make it object-oriented, but
    Michael> he/they used to much of inheritance and
    Michael> polymorphism. Well, perhaps "to much" is not correct, but
    Michael> he/they used it in a way, that the output is very
    Michael> complicated. 

It took me a while to battle it out. I think what it really lacks is
some notes on the architecture. More specifically, how the classes
relate to one another and the purpose of each. At a low level, the
code seems fairly well commented.

    Michael> data structures while debugging (DDD segfaulted several
    Michael> times :( ).

I didn't have any problems with that. I'm using version 3.0 with gdb
4.17. The combination seems much more stable than 2.2.3 (?) and gdb
4.16. If you're not using DDD 3.0, its worth the upgrade. For one
thing, it remembers what you where looking at in the data window as
you move between functions.

The only problem that I had was fclose causing a segv. When I was
running faxmail under gdb, I did:

	faxmail -v < some_captured_mail.txt

Looks like an bug in libgcc or somewhere. This was on Linux at home,
while I at work I run it under SunOS 4.1.4. Under Linux:

	
	cat some_captured_mail.txt | faxmail -v 

works fine, but I could not figure out how to run it that way. 

The next step is to get it to work in Japanese, a project that has
been on the back-burner for about year or more. It means modifying
TextFmt, MsgFmt and faxmail, at least, to support the various
Japanese Kanji encodings. That should keep be busy for awhile :)

Thanks again,

	Andy

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 13:58:41 +1000
To: "Andrew S. Howell" <andy@tibco.com>, flexfax@sgi.com
From: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>
Subject: Re: flexfax: faxmail fails on mime message/rfc822
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi Andrew,

At 09:59 1/09/98 +0900, Andrew S. Howell wrote:
>The only problem that I had was fclose causing a segv. When I was
>running faxmail under gdb, I did:
>
>	faxmail -v < some_captured_mail.txt
>
>Looks like an bug in libgcc or somewhere. This was on Linux at home,
>while I at work I run it under SunOS 4.1.4. Under Linux:
>

Almost - the bug is in textfmt it fclose()'s twice.

Its because the other libc's have static array of FILE structs allocated
when the program starts that don't get deleted till its finished. glibc2
allocates FILE structs as needed.

Small sample prog:
	FILE* f1, f2;
	f1 = fopen("file1.txt", "r");
	fclose(f1);
	f2 = fopen("file2.txt", "r");
	fclose(f1);

Under glibc2 this segfaults, under the other libc's(ie Sun OS) you just
close f2!!!

There is a small patch for this at: http://www.trump.net.au/~rjc/hylafax/

- Robert

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: rjc@trump.net.au
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: faxmail fails on mime message/rfc822
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 14:46:52 +0900
From: "Andrew S. Howell" <andy@tibco.com>
X-Dispatcher: imput version 980522
Lines: 59
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


    Robert> Hi Andrew,

    Robert> At 09:59 1/09/98 +0900, Andrew S. Howell wrote: The only
    Robert> problem that I had was fclose causing a segv. When I was
    Robert> running faxmail under gdb, I did:
    Robert> 
    Robert> faxmail -v < some_captured_mail.txt
    Robert> 
    Robert> Looks like an bug in libgcc or somewhere. This was on
    Robert> Linux at home, while I at work I run it under SunOS
    Robert> 4.1.4. Under Linux:
    Robert> 

    Robert> Almost - the bug is in textfmt it fclose()'s twice.

Robert,

	Thanks. I have not actually used faxmail on my Linux box at
home, though I use sendfax a fair bit. After my post I was trying to
figure out what difference could be between:

	cat something | faxmail

and
	
	faxmail <  something 

There wasn't! I was doing it one way on linux and the other on
SunOS. Too late at night I guess :)

    Robert> Its because the other libc's have static array of FILE
    Robert> structs allocated when the program starts that don't get
    Robert> deleted till its finished. glibc2 allocates FILE structs
    Robert> as needed.

    Robert> There is a small patch for this at:
    Robert> http://www.trump.net.au/~rjc/hylafax/

Thanks, I'll apply that, and maybe the TextFmt patch to use
ghostscript Fontmap encoding. Does that mean that AFM files are not
used? 

For modifying TextFmt to handle Japanese, I need to figure out some
way to determine glyph sizes. I use a patch for Ghostscript that use a
library called vflib (Vector Font library) to access Japanese True
Type fonts. I could use that directly, but then my changes would be
tied to a vflib'd Ghostscript. I'm still in the early stages of
getting to grips with this.

If your interested, see:

http://www.cit.ics.saitama-u.ac.jp/~far/howto/gs-vflib.html

For information on how to set vflib with Ghostscript

Thanks again,

	Andy

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 16:39:25 +1000
To: "Andrew S. Howell" <andy@tibco.com>
From: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>
Subject: Re: flexfax: faxmail fails on mime message/rfc822
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

At 14:46 1/09/98 +0900, Andrew S. Howell wrote:
>
>    Robert> There is a small patch for this at:
>    Robert> http://www.trump.net.au/~rjc/hylafax/
>
>Thanks, I'll apply that, and maybe the TextFmt patch to use
>ghostscript Fontmap encoding. Does that mean that AFM files are not
>used? 

Sortof, the ghostscript fonts package contain afm files as well as the
fonts themselves.  These are both mapped by the Fontmap file.  The patch
allows textfmt to directly read the Fontmap file(s) to find the afm file(No
need to provide your own afm file or to manually symlink to the ghostscript
one - its all automatic).

>For modifying TextFmt to handle Japanese, I need to figure out some
>way to determine glyph sizes. I use a patch for Ghostscript that use a
>library called vflib (Vector Font library) to access Japanese True
>Type fonts. I could use that directly, but then my changes would be
>tied to a vflib'd Ghostscript. I'm still in the early stages of
>getting to grips with this.
>
>If your interested, see:
>
>http://www.cit.ics.saitama-u.ac.jp/~far/howto/gs-vflib.html
>
>For information on how to set vflib with Ghostscript
>

I had a quick look, and to be honest i would do it in two stages.

First i would try to get it working with Type 1 fonts(the Kanji fonts
package??) which should have associated afm files.  Hopefully that
shouldn't require many changes to TextFmt.

And then after that is all going try to figure out a way to do True Type.

Good Luck :-)

- Robert

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Tony Savarese" <tony@tonysavarese.com>
To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
Cc: <tony@tonysavarese.com>, "tony@metronet.com" <tony@mail.metronet.com>
Subject: flexfax: My faxes get queued but nothing happens
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:01:10 -0500
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I am using hylafax v4.0 pl 2 to work with TPC.INT
When a message is directed via email to my fax machine, the root of my
server gets the following message but nothing happens. Any suggestions


>From FaxMaster@ns1.tonysavarese.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
>Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:48:47 -0500 (CDT)
>From: FaxMaster@ns1.tonysavarese.com
>To: FaxMaster@ns1.tonysavarese.com
>Subject: fax queued for ID
>
><Chameleon.4.01.2.980825204936.Tony@fcn105-2.tmi.net> to +18174592975
>
>From tony@mail.metronet.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
>to:         +18174592975
>from:       tony@mail.metronet.com
>subject:    queue
>message-id: <Chameleon.4.01.2.980825204936.Tony@fcn105-2.tmi.net>
>
>request id is 26 (group id 26) for host localhost (2 files)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com
X-Lotus-FromDomain: POINTSNORTH
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:23:35 -0600
Subject: flexfax: Forward all incoming fax to an account
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Dear all,

I would like to forward all incoming faxes to a designated user account for
sorting.  Is there any way to do that in Hylafax?  I need to do that
because we don't really want to leave all faxes in a queue with common
access by everyone in the office.

I'm currently running Hylafax4.0pl1 on Solaris 2.6.

Thank you all for your attention!  Your comment is greatly appreciated.

Sandie

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Forward all incoming fax to an account
To: shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:05:19 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Reply-To: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> I would like to forward all incoming faxes to a designated user account for
> sorting.  Is there any way to do that in Hylafax?  I need to do that

Yes.  Its fairly obvious in the documentation.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:34:28 +0200
From: "Arsene Gschwind" <gschwind@bioz.unibas.ch>
Organization: Biozentrum
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Unknown Error 139
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi there,
 
 I' trying to setup Hylafax as an mail to fax gateway on a RedHat linux
 5.1 box.
 I always get the following error message:
 
 > The original message was received at Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:03 +0200
 > from IDENT:root@localhost [127.0.0.1]
 >
 >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
 > <root@72078.fax>
 >
 >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
 > 554 <root@72078.fax>... unknown mailer error 139
 >
 >  
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 > Reporting-MTA: dns; biow.biocomp.unibas.ch
 > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost
 > Arrival-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:03 +0200
 >
 > Final-Recipient: RFC822; <root@72078.fax>
 > Action: failed
 > Status: 5.0.0
 > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:04 +0200
 >
 >  
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >
 > Subject: test
 > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:02 +0200
 > From: root <root@biow.biocomp.unibas.ch>
 > Organization: Biozentrum
 > To: root@72078.fax
 >
 > Hallo
 >
 >      This is a test
 --
 
 I've setup sendmail like they said on the doc. , the fax goes thru but
 the error message comes everytime.
 
 Thanks for any Idea
         Arsene
 
 ***********************************************************
 Gschwind Arsene
 Biocomputing Department
 Biozentrum of Basel University
 Klingelbergstrasse 70
 CH-4056 Basel
 SWITZERLAND
 
 WWW:  <http://wwww.biozentrum.unibas.ch/~biocomp>
 Mail: <gschwind@bioz.unibas.ch>
 ************************************************************

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Hubert Schumacher" <hubert.schumacher@synapse.lu>
To: "Arsene Gschwind" <gschwind@bioz.unibas.ch>, <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Unknown Error 139
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:31:02 +0200
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sgi.sgi.com id XAA12828
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by derrick.elgro.co.uk id IAA15949

I get exactly the same error on RedHat 5.0.
But in my case the faxes are sent correctly.

As I still didn't manage to solve this problem, I'm also very interested!

 Hubert Schumacher


-----Original Message-----
From: Arsene Gschwind <gschwind@bioz.unibas.ch>
To: flexfax@sgi.com <flexfax@sgi.com>
Date: mercredi 26 aot 1998 00:44
Subject: flexfax: Unknown Error 139


>Hi there,
>
> I' trying to setup Hylafax as an mail to fax gateway on a RedHat linux
> 5.1 box.
> I always get the following error message:
>
> > The original message was received at Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:03 +0200
> > from IDENT:root@localhost [127.0.0.1]
> >
> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > <root@72078.fax>
> >
> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > 554 <root@72078.fax>... unknown mailer error 139
> >
> >
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Reporting-MTA: dns; biow.biocomp.unibas.ch
> > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost
> > Arrival-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:03 +0200
> >
> > Final-Recipient: RFC822; <root@72078.fax>
> > Action: failed
> > Status: 5.0.0
> > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:04 +0200
> >
> >
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: test
> > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:02 +0200
> > From: root <root@biow.biocomp.unibas.ch>
> > Organization: Biozentrum
> > To: root@72078.fax
> >
> > Hallo
> >
> >      This is a test
> --
>
> I've setup sendmail like they said on the doc. , the fax goes thru but
> the error message comes everytime.
>
> Thanks for any Idea
>         Arsene
>
> ***********************************************************
> Gschwind Arsene
> Biocomputing Department
> Biozentrum of Basel University
> Klingelbergstrasse 70
> CH-4056 Basel
> SWITZERLAND
>
> WWW:  <http://wwww.biozentrum.unibas.ch/~biocomp>
> Mail: <gschwind@bioz.unibas.ch>
> ************************************************************
>

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:40:25 -0700
From: Thidarat Pornkarnchananun <pornkarn@fsl.noaa.gov>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Got disconnected before SEND FILE
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi David,
At that time I sent you this mail, I installed the software from binary version
4.0pl2 and my faxq didn't work quite right. It didn't trig the transmission,
therefore I had to use 'faxsend' command right after 'sendfax' was done. The
result was what I attached to you. Your suggestion was close to what I doubted
before. I did what you said, but it remained the same.
Then I worked another way around trying to make faxq completely work. Later on I
was suggested to install the latest version (4.0pl2-2). The faxq now works OK.
Faxsend is automatically trigged right after sendfax submits the job, if I want
the transmission happen 'now'. (Anyhow, if I try using faxsend command alone to
send an incomplete job, the result still the same. But, what the heck, my faxq
and sendfax are now working  :)   ).
Just would like to let you know how the problem's going on and express my
appreciation about your help. I was stucked by this problem for weeks, and it's
good to get some help from people outside.
Again, thank you so much.
Best regards,
Thidarat
David Woolley wrote:

> > Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: USE 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
> > Aug 20 16:25:57.24: [  824]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
> > Aug 20 16:25:58.86: [  824]: --> [7:+FHNG:2]
> > Aug 20 16:25:58.86: [  824]: REMOTE HANGUP: Call aborted,  from +FK or
> > <CAN> (co
> > de 2)
>
> Hylafax aborted the call during phase B (option negotiation).  The legitimate
> reason for this would be that the last time it called the number the remote
> machine was prepared to accept a more efficient fax coding (possibly because
> it is a modem pool and you got a different modem), an Hylafax has code that
> way be now needs to regenerate the fax data.  If this is the case
> (and the fax will go eventually in that case), use & to lock down the lower
> specification in the info file.



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thidarat Pornkarnchananun
pornkarn@fsl.noaa.gov
voice:(303)497-7248 | fax:(303)497-7256
NOAA Forecast System Laboratory
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: facsimile not received phase B error
To: pjaouen@HOL.FR (Philippe JAOUEN)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:02:09 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> modem LCE-288P (Rockwell)
> 
> I got this kind of message for 30 of incoming calls
> 
> What is it due to ?

We can't tell as you haven't given enough detail.  Please turn up
the tracing level to that seen in most other postings and tell us
what version of HylaFax and what operating system (Linux distributions
are more significant than kernel versions, as the libraries and
directory structures cause more problems than the kernel).

In the meantime, phase B is when the two systems are talking at 300bps
to determine their capabilities and Rockwell chips tend to be used in
badge engineered modems and are customisable for the modem manufacturer,
so we don't even know whether this one is class 1 or class 2.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:36:05 +1000
To: flexfax@sgi.com
From: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Unknown Error 139
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by derrick.elgro.co.uk id HAA16804

Hi,

Ummm this _might_ be a problem with the textfmt excutable - the standard
one in 4.0pl2 tries to free some memory twice which will cause a
segmentation violation on most libc6 systems ie RedHat 5.X.

There is a patch for this at http://www.trump.net.au/~rjc/hylafax/

i think also the latest redhat 5 binary from ftp://ftp.tpc.int/pub/hylafax/
also has this patch.

good luck - Robert

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Arsene Gschwind <gschwind@bioz.unibas.ch>
>To: flexfax@sgi.com <flexfax@sgi.com>
>Date: mercredi 26 aot 1998 00:44
>Subject: flexfax: Unknown Error 139
>
>
>>Hi there,
>>
>> I' trying to setup Hylafax as an mail to fax gateway on a RedHat linux
>> 5.1 box.
>> I always get the following error message:
>>
>> > The original message was received at Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:03 +0200
>> > from IDENT:root@localhost [127.0.0.1]
>> >
>> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>> > <root@72078.fax>
>> >
>> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>> > 554 <root@72078.fax>... unknown mailer error 139
>> >
>> >
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Reporting-MTA: dns; biow.biocomp.unibas.ch
>> > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost
>> > Arrival-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:03 +0200
>> >
>> > Final-Recipient: RFC822; <root@72078.fax>
>> > Action: failed
>> > Status: 5.0.0
>> > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:04 +0200
>> >
>> >
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Subject: test
>> > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:02 +0200
>> > From: root <root@biow.biocomp.unibas.ch>
>> > Organization: Biozentrum
>> > To: root@72078.fax
>> >
>> > Hallo
>> >
>> >      This is a test
>> --
>>
>> I've setup sendmail like they said on the doc. , the fax goes thru but
>> the error message comes everytime.
>>
>> Thanks for any Idea
>>         Arsene
>>
>> ***********************************************************
>> Gschwind Arsene
>> Biocomputing Department
>> Biozentrum of Basel University
>> Klingelbergstrasse 70
>> CH-4056 Basel
>> SWITZERLAND
>>
>> WWW:  <http://wwww.biozentrum.unibas.ch/~biocomp>
>> Mail: <gschwind@bioz.unibas.ch>
>> ************************************************************
>>

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Subject: flexfax: From HylaFAX: modem on /dev/tty00 appears wedged
To: flexfax@sgi.com (hylafax), bsdi-users@mailinglists.org (BSDI Users)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:04:30 -0700 (MST)
From: Chris Knox <cknox@hypercom.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


I have been having a time keeping the modem ready -- every reboot it
seems to want to have the modem reconfigured -- the rc entries don't
work.  Running BSDI 3.0 (application requirements).  I'm thinking about 
moving this paging/fax server off to a BSDI 4.0 system anybody try that
yet?  In the meanwhile, what's with this modem?  I've swapped it out
with a different one, but it hasn't changed the symptoms so I suspect
the HylaFAX configuration.  

It's default BSDI 3.0.  Is the problem BSDI or the version of HylaFAX?

While we're talking about this, how come a cu doesn't work?


	#/usr/contrib/bin# cu -l tty00
	Connect failed


Chris


	#/var/spool/fax/log# faxstat
	HylaFAX scheduler on faxserv.hypercom.com: Running
	Modem tty00 (504.5262): Waiting [forever -cwk] for modem to come ready

According to The HylaFAX Receive Agent:
> From fax  Fri Aug 28 16:45:36 1998
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:45:35 -0700 (MST)
> Message-Id: <199808282345.QAA04448@citadel.hypercom.com>
> X-Authentication-Warning: citadel.hypercom.com: uucp set sender to fax using -f
> To: FaxMaster
> From: The HylaFAX Receive Agent <fax>
> Subject: modem on /dev/tty00 appears wedged
> 
> The HylaFAX software thinks that there is a problem with the modem
> on device /dev/tty00 that needs attention; repeated attempts to
> initialize the modem have failed.
> 
> Consult the server trace logs for more information on what is happening.
> 


Log says:

Aug 28 16:39:11.76: [ 4179]: SESSION BEGIN 00007092 160295045888
Aug 28 16:39:11.76: [ 4179]: SEND PAGE: JOB 7469 DEST 9=5045888 COMMID 00007092
Aug 28 16:39:11.76: [ 4179]: DELAY 2600 ms
Aug 28 16:39:14.36: [ 4179]: <-- [15:ATE0V1Q0S0=0H0\r]
Aug 28 16:39:14.38: [ 4179]: --> [2:OK]
Aug 28 16:39:14.38: [ 4179]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&K3&D3&C1\r]
Aug 28 16:39:19.38: [ 4179]: MODEM <Timeout>
Aug 28 16:39:19.38: [ 4179]: <-- [5:ATM0\r]
Aug 28 16:39:49.38: [ 4179]: MODEM <Timeout>
Aug 28 16:39:49.39: [ 4179]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=0\r]
Aug 28 16:40:19.39: [ 4179]: MODEM <Timeout>
Aug 28 16:40:19.39: [ 4179]: PAGE FAILED: Unable to configure modem for data use
Aug 28 16:40:19.41: [ 4179]: SESSION END

-- 
Chris Knox                                               cknox@hypercom.com
Hypercom, Inc.                                               (602) 504-5888
Unix Systems Support                              Speaking only for myself.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: debugging help needed
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:02:55 +0200
From: Bernd Rosauer <br@stiller.netland.inka.de>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

I have the problem that my modem appears 'wedged', although I can
talk to it using 'cu' or run PPP sessions over it.  With ServerTracing
set to 0x3f syslogd reports:

Aug 29 19:23:56 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: HylaFAX (tm) Version 4.0pl2
Aug 29 19:23:56 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: Copyright (c) 1990-1996 Sam Leffler
Aug 29 19:23:56 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: Copyright (c) 1991-1996 Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Aug 29 19:25:38 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: MODEM /dev/cuaa2 appears to be wedged
Aug 29 19:25:38 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: MODEM WEDGED: bin/wedged "cuaa2" "/dev/cuaa2"

There is no session trace showing up in the log subdirectory,
although I set SessionTracing to 0x94be.  (Why?)

My modem is a ELSA MicroLink 33.6MC which is Class-2.0-capable.

What might be wrong with my configuration?  Is there any tracing
bit which will reveal more information?  How should I track down
the problem?

Any hint would be greatly appreciated.  Please let me know if I
need to provide parts of my configuration files in detail.

Thanks!

-Bernd

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:44:57 +1200
From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
To: Bernd Rosauer <br@stiller.netland.inka.de>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: debugging help needed
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Bernd Rosauer wrote:

> Aug 29 19:23:56 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: HylaFAX (tm) Version 4.0pl2
> Aug 29 19:23:56 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: Copyright (c) 1990-1996 Sam Leffler
> Aug 29 19:23:56 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: Copyright (c) 1991-1996 Silicon Graphics, Inc.
> Aug 29 19:25:38 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: MODEM /dev/cuaa2 appears to be wedged
> Aug 29 19:25:38 faber FaxQueuer[2569]: MODEM WEDGED: bin/wedged "cuaa2" "/dev/cuaa2"
> 
> There is no session trace showing up in the log subdirectory,
> although I set SessionTracing to 0x94be.  (Why?)

The session log doesn't come up until a link to the remote fax is
established, if I recall correctly.

> My modem is a ELSA MicroLink 33.6MC which is Class-2.0-capable.
> 
> What might be wrong with my configuration?  Is there any tracing
> bit which will reveal more information?  How should I track down
> the problem?

You need to bump the ServerTracing up a bit and check out the chat
session (via syslog) between HylaFAX and your modem.

Jonathan Chen
-----
char *p="char *p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Joe Phillips" <jaiger@acm.org>
To: "flexfax@sgi.com" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 98 12:03:40 
Reply-To: "Joe Phillips" <jaiger@acm.org>
Subject: flexfax: qmail sendmail & HylaFAX
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


I recently installed qmail, replacing exim as my MTA.

I now receive many error emails from a cron job (hourly.)  The only hourly
job I have running is faxqclean.

The error is:

sendmail: illegal option -- q                                                   
sendmail: usage: sendmail [ -t ] [ -fsender ] [ -Fname ] [ -bp ] [ -bs ] [ arg .
.. ]                                                                            

according to the email, the command causing the error is:

Subject: Cron <root@chunnel>    /usr/lib/sendmail -q

Are there any tricks to using HylaFAX with qmail?

any suggestions?

thanks,

joe

-- 
Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. No is the answer.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: 3 Sep 98 00:00:02 +0100
Subject: flexfax: Support for GamaLink cards?
From: "Benoit Foucher" <bfoucher@pratique.fr>
To: "hylafax" <flexfax@sgi.com>
X-Fontfamily: Geneva
X-Fontsize: 12
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

<x-rich>Hello,


I'd like to know if there is a support of the Gamalink cards for use
with Hylafax. We plan to use hylafax for receiving about 300 fax per
day, so we need a card or modems wich support a wide variety of fax.
What do you think 

about this ? And wich modem do you recomand to buy, if there is no
support of the Gamalink card ?



Thanks, and sorry for my poor english...


Benoit Foucher

mailto:bfoucher@pratique.fr
</x-rich>

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:54:13 +0200
From: "Alexander Steins" <alexander.steins@octagon.de>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Postscript Conversion Problem 
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



Hi,

I have just installed flexfax 4.0pl2 and ghostscript 4.00 on a sparc
solaris 2.6 box.

Everything is working fine. But there is one problem when users send
faxes from windows using whfc 0.8.9:

Sometimes when there are documents from word containing grafics (gif,
tiff, jpg) are faxed ghostscript "hangs" It uses 100% cpu and does`nt
generate an errormessage.

When I print such a document to a file, transfer it to the sun where gs
resides, and try to render it manually it does not work although.
Printing of the file to a postscript compatible printer does work.

I see this is more a ghotscript related problem, but does anybody know
this behaviour, or does anybody know how to fix it?

alex

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:31:23 +0200
From: Alain Berger <bga@payserv.telekurs.com>
To: alexander.steins@octagon.de
CC: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Postscript Conversion Problem
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sgi.sgi.com id FAA18274
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by derrick.elgro.co.uk id PAA19884

alexander.steins@octagon.de wrote:
--snip--
> Sometimes when there are documents from word containing grafics (gif,
> tiff, jpg) are faxed ghostscript "hangs" It uses 100% cpu and does`nt
> generate an errormessage.
--snip--
> I see this is more a ghotscript related problem, but does anybody know
> this behaviour, or does anybody know how to fix it?

it _is_ a ghostscript related problem - we got the same.
after upgrading GS to V.5 the "endless-loop" never occurred again.
(there was no reason for loosing time with bug-hunting ...)

cheers,
alain

-- 
Alain Berger	                |         Tel: +41 1 279 33 29
Telekurs Payserv AG             |         Fax: +41 1 446 74 61
Hardturmstr.201, 8021 Zrich    |      E-Mail: bga@payserv.ch

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:58:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Alexander Steins <alexander.steins@octagon.de>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Postscript Conversion Problem 
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Alexander Steins wrote:

> I have just installed flexfax 4.0pl2 and ghostscript 4.00 on a sparc
> solaris 2.6 box.
> 
> Everything is working fine. But there is one problem when users send
> faxes from windows using whfc 0.8.9:

> Sometimes when there are documents from word containing grafics (gif,
> tiff, jpg) are faxed ghostscript "hangs" It uses 100% cpu and does`nt
> generate an errormessage.

Is thater any reason not to go to ghostscript 5.10?


			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 08:54:13 +0200
From: Nagy Szabolcs <nagy2@hungarocamion.hu>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Modem ZyXEL U-336E
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi ,

Can you tell me that Hylafax-4.0pl1-9 under Linux 5.0 (Hurricane) with
kernel 2.0.32 support ZyXEL U-336E modems without any problem ?

Nagy Szabolcs , nagy2@hungarocamion.hu

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:06:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Nagy Szabolcs <nagy2@hungarocamion.hu>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Modem ZyXEL U-336E
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Nagy Szabolcs wrote:

> Hi ,
> 
> Can you tell me that Hylafax-4.0pl1-9 under Linux 5.0 (Hurricane) with
> kernel 2.0.32 support ZyXEL U-336E modems without any problem ?
> 
> Nagy Szabolcs , nagy2@hungarocamion.hu

No. The older HylaFAX releases do not necessarily operate with RedHat
5.x releases due to library changes and overlapping binary names with
the wu-ftpd software.

Hop over to http://cirl.meei.harvard.edu/hylafax for RedHat Linux
installation notes and pointers to the latest source and RPM's. This
does not address your modem question, but it could prevent some
other heartache.

			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: Nagy Szabolcs <nagy2@hungarocamion.hu>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Modem ZyXEL U-336E 
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:39:41 +0100
From: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, "NS" == Nagy Szabolcs wrote:

  NS> Hi ,

  NS> Can you tell me that Hylafax-4.0pl1-9 under Linux 5.0 (Hurricane) with
  NS> kernel 2.0.32 support ZyXEL U-336E modems without any problem ?

I do not have a ZyXEL modem so I cannot answer your question with much 
confidence . . . HylaFAX does seem to work well with most XyXELs according to 
the members of this list however.

Please do not consider installing the Hylafax-4.0pl1-9 RPM, it's old. I am now 
maintaining the RPM and you can get the latest snapshot at:

	ftp://ftp.tpc.int/pub/hylafax/hylafax-4.0pl2-1rh5.i386.rpm

-DPN

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:31:14 +0800 (HKT)
From: Hong Kong Observatory <d1swdev@asiaonline.net>
To: Nagy Szabolcs <nagy2@hungarocamion.hu>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Modem ZyXEL U-336E
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi Nagy,

   I'm using ZyXEL rack mount U-336RE modem cards with HylaFAX-4.0pl1
under AIX 4.1. The system works find.B

On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Nagy Szabolcs wrote:

> Hi ,
>
> Can you tell me that Hylafax-4.0pl1-9 under Linux 5.0 (Hurricane) with
> kernel 2.0.32 support ZyXEL U-336E modems without any problem ?
>
> Nagy Szabolcs , nagy2@hungarocamion.hu
>
>

K.S.Wat SSA(D)12
Computer Division,
Hong Kong Observatory.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com
X-Lotus-FromDomain: POINTSNORTH
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:08:35 -0600
Subject: flexfax: Mail to fax gateway
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

I have installed hylafaxv4.0pl1 on a Sparc machine running Solaris 2.6.
On the Windows98 PC client, I have installed whfc.  Everything is
working fine.  I'm able to send fax from PC and receive fax on the
Hylafax server.

However, we need to integrate Hylafax with an application which can
only issue email request i.e. send fax to Hylafax via email from the
PC clients.  I read the documentation that comes with the hylafax
binary distrbution and it mentioned something called
faxmail/mailfax.sh-sendmail.  Where can I find it?

According to the documentation, after faxmail is correctly installed,
mail to user@dest.fax will get formatted and submitted as a fax job to
user at the specified destination "dest".  Is it true that this email
addressing only works if mail is sent from another Unix mail client?
If I am sending email using the above addressing style without specifying
the mail host, how can it tell where to send the fax to the fax server?
I'll expect the email address should be something like :
user@dest.fax.faxserver.com etc.

Please, any advise is more than welcome.

Thanks in advance.

Sandie

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com
X-Lotus-FromDomain: POINTSNORTH
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:32:47 -0600
Subject: Re: flexfax: Mail to fax gateway
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Wed Sept 2, Nico Kadel-Garcia replied:

On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com wrote:

> I have installed hylafaxv4.0pl1 on a Sparc machine running Solaris 2.6.
> On the Windows98 PC client, I have installed whfc.  Everything is
> working fine.  I'm able to send fax from PC and receive fax on the
> Hylafax server.
>
> However, we need to integrate Hylafax with an application which can
> only issue email request i.e. send fax to Hylafax via email from the
> PC clients.  I read the documentation that comes with the hylafax
> binary distrbution and it mentioned something called
> faxmail/mailfax.sh-sendmail.  Where can I find it?

>>> In the source code: it should be in your installation.

>>>Perhaps if you got more recent source, from
     ftp://ftp.sgi.com/sgi/fax/

Thanks.  I'll look at it.  Since I only have the binary, I guess faxmail
is not bundled with the binary distribution.

> According to the documentation, after faxmail is correctly installed,
> mail to user@dest.fax will get formatted and submitted as a fax job to
> user at the specified destination "dest".  Is it true that this email
> addressing only works if mail is sent from another Unix mail client?
> If I am sending email using the above addressing style without specifying
> the mail host, how can it tell where to send the fax to the fax server?
> I'll expect the email address should be something like :
> user@dest.fax.faxserver.com etc.

>>>The specified "dest" should include the telephone number. You *REALLY*
>>>should read the documentation on your system or in the source code on
>>>this.

Yes, I understand that "dest" really means fax number.  However, if I send
the fax from a Windows98 client via mail to the fax server, I need to
specify
the mail path in my email address.  user@dest.fax is only meaningful to the
fax server with mail-to-fax gateway installed such that the sendmail.cf can
interpret that it's actually a fax.  My question is: how to send that fax
to the fax server via email from a Windows 98 client and at the same time
preserve information "user@dest.fax"?

Thanks a lot!

Sandie

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:21:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Mail to fax gateway
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com wrote:

> I have installed hylafaxv4.0pl1 on a Sparc machine running Solaris 2.6.
> On the Windows98 PC client, I have installed whfc.  Everything is
> working fine.  I'm able to send fax from PC and receive fax on the
> Hylafax server.
> 
> However, we need to integrate Hylafax with an application which can
> only issue email request i.e. send fax to Hylafax via email from the
> PC clients.  I read the documentation that comes with the hylafax
> binary distrbution and it mentioned something called
> faxmail/mailfax.sh-sendmail.  Where can I find it?

In the source code: it should be in your installation.

Perhaps if you got more recent source, from
	ftp://ftp.sgi.com/sgi/fax/

> According to the documentation, after faxmail is correctly installed,
> mail to user@dest.fax will get formatted and submitted as a fax job to
> user at the specified destination "dest".  Is it true that this email
> addressing only works if mail is sent from another Unix mail client?
> If I am sending email using the above addressing style without specifying
> the mail host, how can it tell where to send the fax to the fax server?
> I'll expect the email address should be something like :
> user@dest.fax.faxserver.com etc.

The specified "dest" should include the telephone number. You *REALLY*
should read the documentation on your system or in the source code on
this.

			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
To: shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Mail to fax gateway 
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:40:43 -0400
From: "Thomas A. Szybist" <szybist@boxhill.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

In message <87256673.007AAC2A.00@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com>, shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com writes:
> On Wed Sept 2, Nico Kadel-Garcia replied:
> 
> On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 shui@yxepna01.pointsnorth.com wrote:
> 
> > I have installed hylafaxv4.0pl1 on a Sparc machine running Solaris 2.6.
> > On the Windows98 PC client, I have installed whfc.  Everything is
> > working fine.  I'm able to send fax from PC and receive fax on the
> > Hylafax server.
> >
> > However, we need to integrate Hylafax with an application which can
> > only issue email request i.e. send fax to Hylafax via email from the
> > PC clients.  I read the documentation that comes with the hylafax
> > binary distrbution and it mentioned something called
> > faxmail/mailfax.sh-sendmail.  Where can I find it?
> 
> >>> In the source code: it should be in your installation.
> 
> >>>Perhaps if you got more recent source, from
>      ftp://ftp.sgi.com/sgi/fax/
> 
> Thanks.  I'll look at it.  Since I only have the binary, I guess faxmail
> is not bundled with the binary distribution.

It should be in /opt/local/fax/lib/mailfax.  Thats the shell script
that invokes, /opt/local/fax/bin/faxmail.

Tom Szybist
szybist@boxhill.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: Hubert Schumacher <hubert.schumacher@synapse.lu>
To: "Hylafax mailing list (E-mail)" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Setting sender's user id when running faxmail
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:25:53 +0200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi, 
I set up a mail-to-fax gateway as suggested in the hylafax documentation.

My problem now is the following:

When sendmail (8.9.1) runs mailfax (or faxmail), the process is owned by root as sendmail runs as root (or daemon).
Now to get hylafax to verify user authorisation to sent a fax with the .../etc/hosts file, it needs to be invoked by the user, 
of which it should check, if he is allowed to use the service. But in my configuration this is (logically) always root. 
The result is that I am not able to restrict access to the service. 

Does anybody know how to set the user-id to the sending user?
Should it be done in sendmail? Or is it also possible to do this in faxmail?

Please help!

 Hubert Schumacher

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:01:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Birnbaum <davidb@chelsea.net>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Request for notes: Net::Hylafax
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Folks,

A few months ago, I posted a note about a Perl Hylafax module - well,
we've finally resumed serious development, and hope to have a version
released to the world shortly.

In our development, I wanted to describe our object model briefly and see
if anyone had any comments.  This is being written as a Net:: module, and
as a result, it inherits all of the methods of Net::FTP (see the docs for
info about that).

We've chosen to add on some additional object types that implement
higher-level Hylafax functionality, which will be available through the
connection.  One will be able to enter all of the raw Hylafax commands
via the normal FTP-like interface (except you don't have to use QUOT),
but with these extended objects, you can have a method interface to the 
whole thing.  I'm only using pseudocode at the moment, but here's our
thoughts so far:

Net::Hylafax::Job

  Representative of a schedule job, this will allow one to perform
  various job-related fuctions, such as:

  $job->status (get the status of the selected job)
  $job->cancel (cancel a job)
  $job->submit (submit a job)

  and so on.  the JPARM stuff is all accessable through this thing.

Net::Hylafax::JobGroup

  As with the Job, this is a utility to perform functions on a group of
  jobs.  It contains a number of Job objects, and (until the functionality
  is written into Hylafax) will do repetative stuff against a list of
  different Jobs that are part of a group.

Net::Hylafax::Document

  A convenience class for doing Gets and Puts of documents that are stored
  on the server, as well as attaching a document to a job that was
  created.  ie, something like this:

    $job = $hylafax->NewJob
    $doc = $hylafax->PutNewDocument( "/tmp/mypsfile" );
    print "Doc saved as ", $doc->ServerName, "\n";
    $job->Document( $doc );
    $job->Dial( "555-1212" );
    $job->Submit;

Net::Hylafax::Q

  A representation of the Q, this may be subclassed into SendQ, RecvQ,
  PollQ, etc.  It will allow one to set the format, list the Q, etc:

    $q = $hylafax->SendQ;
    $q->Format( $format );
    $q->List;

Net::Hylafax::Modem

  The modem object - will allow modems to be reset, enabled, as well as
  view the status of them:

    @modems = $hylfax->ListModems;
    foreach ( @modems ) {
        print "Modem status is: ", $_->Name, $_->Status, "\n";
    }

Any comments, suggestions, etc. would be appreciated as we get started on
this.

Pure OO people will probably point out that the Modem class really doesn't
inherit from the Net::Hylafax class; so, there may be another class
heirarchy that lives on this, implementing the HASA relationship instead
of the ISA relationship.

Thanks,

David.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: "Allen Strain" <abody@bellsouth.net>
To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: MIME converter source?
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:00:15 -0400
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Is there a good source for MIME converters for AIX 4.2? Any help would be
appreicated

Allen Strain
Olan Mills

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:59:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Allen Strain <abody@bellsouth.net>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: MIME converter source?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Allen Strain wrote:

> Is there a good source for MIME converters for AIX 4.2? Any help would be
> appreicated

If it's not built into your email clients, try 
	ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/



			Nico Kadel-Garcia
			Senior Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Subject: flexfax: Postscript conversion quality (outbound)
To: flexfax@sgi.com (Hylafax Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:27:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Stan Brown" <stanb@awod.com>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

	I have been using Hylafax for a couple of years now and am very happy
	wiht it. However I just scaned in a picture, rang The Imagmagik
	converter on it to et a postscript file, and faxed it. The quality was
	pretty bad, so I tried sending the PostScript file to my HP LJ5. The
	quality there was excelent.

	Is there anything I can do to improve the quality of the PostScript
	outbound conversion?


-- 
Stan Brown     stanb@netcom.com                                    770-996-6955
Factory Automation Systems
Atlanta Ga.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
	minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a
	16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit
	microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit
	of competition.
-
(c) 1998 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:05:08 -0700
From: Jim Gottlieb <jimmy@info.com>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Unix GUI clients
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I have been happily running hylafax as our fax receiver for some time
now, but I'm frustrated in trying to find a decent client program for
sending faxes from our desktops (all SPARC-Solaris).  

All I want is something that has an address book (a system-wide plus a
personal one would be nice) and will allow for easy faxing from
WordPerfect.

I looked at the FAQ yesterday for the first time in a year, hoping
there would be some new programs, but it seems nothing has changed
there in a long time.  I did give a try to Gfax, but its claimed
support for networked Hylafax sending was in reality vaporware.

Has all development in this area stopped?  Is there some new freeware
fax product I should be aware of, or must I go the commercial route (I
wouldn't mind, but I haven't been real impressed with what I've seen
there either)?

Thanks for any advise anyone can offer...

...Jimu

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Tue Feb 16 17:32:29 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Setting sender's user id when running faxmail
To: hubert.schumacher@synapse.lu (Hubert Schumacher)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:25:51 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

[ re wrapped ]
> When sendmail (8.9.1) runs mailfax (or faxmail), the process is owned
> by root as sendmail runs as root (or daemon).

Are you sure.  When sendmail 8.8.8 runs uux, it runs it as the actual
user, if the envelope address resolves to a user mailbox on the sendmail
machine, and daemon if it can't resolve the address.  Unless some option
is set to avoid this, or the facility has disappeared in 8.9.1, I would
expect the same for hylafax.

