From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 16:26:03 +0200
From: Ulrich Eckhardt <uli@transcom.de>
Organization: Transcom
To: Alan Sparks <asparks@nss.harris.com>
CC: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: WHFC and NT - '': Command not understood - progress?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Alan Sparks wrote:
> 
>  I've been sitting here thinking about this for awhile... now, I'm a newbie
> and don't have a feel for the guts of this thing yet, but it doesn't
> completely feel like a client problem to me.
> 
> I have Hylafax running on a SunOS 4.1.4 system.  Hfaxd is running old and
> new protos on 4557 and 4559.  Also, coincidentally, Sendmail is running
> there too.  If I Windows telnet into port 25, I get Sendmail, and can talk
> via typed commands fine.  If I telnet into port 4557 or 4559, I get the
> Hylafax banner, but the "Syntax error" returned for anything I type (like
> QUIT).
> 
> Telnet sessions from another Sun or HP box work fine under these scenarios.
> 
> My big question at this point is whether there is some socket-based
> irregularity on the hfaxd side, some socket option or whatever, that is
> making hfaxd not read the input correctly.  I've been thinking that I need
> to compare the hfaxd socket-read code against another OK program (like
> sendmail).
> 
> Does this sound plausible?  Ulrich, you say you know approx. where in whfc
> the problem occurs (not necessarily why)... any thoughts you could share?

Hi,

i got some reports, that you can connect popperly to hfaxd from
Windows NT with telnet clients other than the microsoft one.

The problem occures in the file FaxClient.cpp in the function 
FaxClient::Send(CString *str). This function sends a string 
terminated with cr/lf to the hfaxd. :

BOOL FaxClient::Send(CString *str)
{
        static char eol[] = {13,10,0};

        TRACE("Send : %s\n",*str);
	// Send string
        if (send(Socket,*str,str->GetLength(),0) <= 0)
        {
                SockErr();
                return FALSE;
        }
	// Send CR/LF
        if (send(Socket,eol,2,0) <= 0)
        {
                SockErr();
                return FALSE;
        }
        return TRUE;
}

It looks to me that sun boxes get the cr/lf first and 
receive the string after cr/lf, but i realy don't know why.
This piece of code (the full code if available on our ftp server)
which sends the string is really easy.

Uli
-- 
Ulrich Eckhardt		                   mailto:uli@transcom.de
http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/uli
Truly great madness can not be achieved without significant
intelligence. (Henrik Tikkanen)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: "Alan Sparks" <asparks@nss.harris.com>
To: "Nico Garcia" <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>,
        "Nico Garcia" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: WHFC and NT - '': Command not understood - progress?
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 08:57:48 -0700
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Alan Sparks wrote:
>
[snip]
>> there too.  If I Windows telnet into port 25, I get Sendmail, and can
talk
>> via typed commands fine.  If I telnet into port 4557 or 4559, I get the
>> Hylafax banner, but the "Syntax error" returned for anything I type (like
>> QUIT).
>
>Hmm. This is wrong. Are you certain about the /etc/services entries
>and the way you are starting the HylaFAX daemons? You might take a
>look at my SunOS notes at
> http://cirl.harvard.edu/~raoul/INSTALL-sunos4.1.x-v4.0pl1.html

OK.  Seems to be set up pretty much as you write, and the thing works
apparently pretty good.  Services entry is fine, and daemons started using
the hylafax script.
(This *isn't* included in the 4.0pl1 binary dist for SunOS... had to get it
from source dist).

>
>What are you telnetting with in this case? The sun server, or a Windows
box,
>or what?

Running the standard Windows NT telnet client, connecting to the Sun server,
explicitly to port 4559 (and getting the banner from hfaxd, so definitely
the right port).

>
>> Telnet sessions from another Sun or HP box work fine under these
scenarios.
>>
>> My big question at this point is whether there is some socket-based
>> irregularity on the hfaxd side, some socket option or whatever, that is
>> making hfaxd not read the input correctly.
[snip]

>
>My suspicion is that the telnet client you are using stinks and that
>it a failure of the telnet, not the hfaxd, but that is merely a guess.
>

It *is* a Mickeysoft product, granted...;-) That ignores the fact that the
same client can connect and negotiate well with other command-protocol-based
servers like sendmail, and that the same message is displayed by WHFC (which
ain't MS).

> Nico Garcia
> Engineer, CIRL
> Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
> raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Alexandre Meissonnier <ameissonnier@dohle.com>
Reply-To: "ameissonnier@dohle.com" <ameissonnier@dohle.com>
To: "'flexfax@sgi.com'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Wrong destination
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:47:17 +0200
Organization: Dohle Handelsgruppe Systemberatung GmbH
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Have you ever seen this? My modem sends faxes to the wrong recipients and 
pretends to work correctly.
Look at this piece of log:


Oct 01 16:17:10.87: [26705]: SESSION BEGIN 00003642 01512xxxxxxx
Oct 01 16:17:10.87: [26705]: SEND FAX: JOB 1487 DEST 001512xxxxxxx COMMID 
00003642
[*** Modem initialization snipped ***]
Oct 01 16:17:14.92: [26705]: DIAL 0,001512xxxxxxx
Oct 01 16:17:14.92: [26705]: <-- [22:ATX3DT0,001512xxxxxxx\r]
[*** This is the correct dial string for the destination +1-512-xxx-xxxx. 
***]
Oct 01 16:17:50.79: [26705]: --> [5:+FCON]
Oct 01 16:17:50.79: [26705]: --> [18:+FNSF:00 00 00 00 ]
Oct 01 16:17:50.79: [26705]: REMOTE NSF "00 00 00 00"
Oct 01 16:17:50.79: [26705]: --> [27:+FCSI:     +49 2241 xxxxxx ]
Oct 01 16:17:50.79: [26705]: REMOTE CSI "+49 2241 xxxxxx"
[*** happily communicating with +49-2241-xxxxxx ***]
Oct 01 16:19:45.30: [26705]: SEND FAX (00003642): FROM xxxxxx@dohle.com TO 
001512xxxxxxx (page 2 of 2 sent in 0:56)
Oct 01 16:19:45.30: [26705]: SEND FAX (00003642): FROM xxxxxx@dohle.com TO 
001512xxxxxxx (docq/doc1489.ps;01 sent in 1:55)
Oct 01 16:19:45.31: [26705]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Oct 01 16:19:46.70: [26705]: --> [8:+FHNG:00]
Oct 01 16:19:46.70: [26705]: REMOTE HANGUP: Normal and proper end of 
connection (code 0)
Oct 01 16:19:46.70: [26705]: --> [2:OK]
Oct 01 16:19:47.07: [26705]: SESSION END

Short summary: I try to fax a document from Germany to the US. HylaFAX 
sends the correct number to the modem. First, the line is busy a few times 
but then a machine answers the call which is not located in the States but 
in our own company (reachable by a 3-digit number from the HylaFAX server). 
HylaFAX tells me everything is OK, but a few minutes later a secretary 
calls me saying that she got a fax from me which should go abroad.
The same thing happened with 2 faxes to different numbers in the US.

What might be the cause for this behavior?

My configuration is:
HylaFAX v4.0pl1 on SCO OpenServer 5.0.2
Modem: ZyXEL 1496E.

--
Alexandre Meissonnier
Dohle Handelsgruppe Systemberatung GmbH
53719 Siegburg (Germany)
ameissonnier@dohle.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
X-Authentication-Warning: tui.pinnacle.co.nz: jonc owned process doing -bs
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 15:52:19 +1200 (NZST)
From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
To: Alexandre Meissonnier <ameissonnier@dohle.com>
cc: Hylafax Mailing list <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Wrong destination
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Alexandre Meissonnier wrote:

> Short summary: I try to fax a document from Germany to the US. HylaFAX 
> sends the correct number to the modem. First, the line is busy a few times 
> but then a machine answers the call which is not located in the States but 
> in our own company (reachable by a 3-digit number from the HylaFAX server). 
> HylaFAX tells me everything is OK, but a few minutes later a secretary 
> calls me saying that she got a fax from me which should go abroad.
> The same thing happened with 2 faxes to different numbers in the US.
> 
> What might be the cause for this behavior?

I bet your PABX is routing the calls internally. Time to break out the
manuals to disable toll-bar and auto-reroute.
--
Jonathan Chen                          e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz
  Pinnacle Software Ltd                Voice  : +64.9.415.4460
  Auckland, New Zealand                Fax    : +64.9.415.4250

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 18:07:44 +0100
From: ferenc cserei <feri@hdsys.hu>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Flexfax problem
X-URL: http://www.vix.com/hylafax/mailing-lists.html
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Please help.

I'm uing Flexfax 4.0 pl1 on AIX 4.1.4. Sometimes modems lose connections 
with the server and I cant find a way to restart a modemconnection.
I've tried killing the faxgetty process, removing lock files etc. 
Faxstat always says : Initializing modem, and then Waiting for modem to 
come ready.
I've used rc.local to hack faxgetty into inittab, but it doesn't seems 
to work.

Thanks

Ferenc Cserei
NIS engineer

the telinit file:

# Hack to get faxgetty into inittab
num_faxgetty=`ps -ef | grep faxgetty | wc -l`
if [ $num_faxgetty -eq 1 ]; then
        /etc/chitab "tty0:2:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/faxgetty /dev/tty0"
        /etc/chitab "tty1:2:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/faxgetty /dev/tty1"
        sleep 2 ; telinit q
fi


the inittab file: 

tty0:2:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/faxgetty /dev/tty0
tty1:2:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/faxgetty /dev/tty1

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Steve Williams <steve@genie96.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Flexfax problem
To: feri@hdsys.hu (ferenc cserei)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:53:32 -0600 (MDT)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Read-Receipt-To: steve@genie96.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> Please help.
> 
> I'm uing Flexfax 4.0 pl1 on AIX 4.1.4. Sometimes modems lose connections 
> with the server and I cant find a way to restart a modemconnection.
> I've tried killing the faxgetty process, removing lock files etc. 
> Faxstat always says : Initializing modem, and then Waiting for modem to 
> come ready.
> I've used rc.local to hack faxgetty into inittab, but it doesn't seems 
> to work.
> 
About every 3 months one of our 7 modems becomes wedged, usually after
we run out of paging space or do something really stupid.  This is under
AIX 3.2.5, but there is nothing else short of a reboot that I have been
able to find that will get them going again.

I didn't throw this together, one of the guys I work with did, and there
is alot of redundant stuff in it, but our attitude around here is...., if
it doesn't hurt to hit it with a big hammer....

It appears the act of getting an AIX "getty" running on the port is what
does the trick.

Try this "HACK"

pdisable tty1 					# won't accomplish anything
chdev -l tty1 -a login=disable 			# Not necessary but done anyway
sleep 2
/etc/chitab "tty1:2:respawn:/etc/getty /dev/tty1"
penable tty1						# probably unnecessary
sleep 5
pdisable tty1
sleep 2
chdev -l tty1 -a login=disable ; sleep 2       
/etc/chitab "tty1:2:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/faxgetty /dev/tty1"

Good Luck,

> Thanks
> 
> Ferenc Cserei
> NIS engineer
> 
> the telinit file:
> 
> # Hack to get faxgetty into inittab
> num_faxgetty=`ps -ef | grep faxgetty | wc -l`
> if [ $num_faxgetty -eq 1 ]; then
>         /etc/chitab "tty0:2:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/faxgetty /dev/tty0"
>         /etc/chitab "tty1:2:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/faxgetty /dev/tty1"
>         sleep 2 ; telinit q
> fi
> 
> 
> the inittab file: 
> 
> tty0:2:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/faxgetty /dev/tty0
> tty1:2:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/faxgetty /dev/tty1
> 
> 


-- 
	Steve Williams, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
	Genie Computer Systems Inc.
	steve@genie96.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:15:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jeff Moe <jebba@verinet.com>
Reply-To: jeff@verinet.com
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Signal 13
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I've been using Hylafax pretty well on a Linux RH 4.0 kernal 2.0.29 box
for awhile. It is only running as an e-mail to fax gateway. It will run
fine for weeks, but then the mailq will get a bunch of failed faxes with
an error of "mailer prog died with signal 13". I think it happens when
there is a fax being sent out and we try to do a credit card transaction
or something like that on the same line, but I'm not sure. Anyway, to get
it to recover I reboot the machine and the new faxes go thru fine, but the
old ones never recover. The modem is just an internal Zoom which I could
replace easily enough, but I don't think it is the source of the problem. 
The volume of faxes has been very low, but if I can get everything
straightened out, I'd like to offer e-mail -> fax as a regular service. 

Thanks for any ideas,

-Jeff

---
   Verinet Communications, Inc.
   Net for Northern Colorado
   http://www.verinet.com
   (970) 416-9152

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:37:43 -0300
Subject: flexfax: re: trouble answering data calls
to: flexfax@sgi.com
from:  (Hume Smith)hume.smith@dess.tallships.istar.ca
organization: North End TTA Fans and Reed Organ Repairers
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

thank you, never mind;  it was a "QualifyCID" config line.  damn this "documentation"...

--
Hume dot Smith at Dess dot Tallships dot IStar dot CA
<URL:http://dess.tallships.istar.ca/%7Ehclsmith/>

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:22:53 -0300
Subject: flexfax: trouble answering data calls
to: flexfax@sgi.com
from:  (Hume Smith)hume.smith@dess.tallships.istar.ca
organization: North End TTA Fans and Reed Organ Repairers
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

hylafax 4.0p1; linux 2.0.28
i'm trying to configure our system to take data calls (for the occasional emergency, to do maintenance when the portmasters die).  i can't get the modem answered; it just rings.  faxgetty seems to notice a ring but something goes amiss; related to Caller ID perhaps (what's "ANSWER: CID REJECTED" mean?)?

here's a bit of the log (trace mask=265):
Oct  7 13:59:09 dess FaxGetty[12675]: MODEM MULTI-TECH SYSTEMS MT2834ZDX/0314C
Oct  7 13:59:09 dess FaxGetty[12675]: <-- [7:ATL0M1\r]
Oct  7 13:59:10 dess FaxGetty[12675]: --> [2:OK]
Oct  7 13:59:10 dess FaxGetty[12675]: <-- [9:AT+FCR=1\r]
Oct  7 13:59:10 dess FaxGetty[12675]: --> [2:OK]
Oct  7 13:59:10 dess FaxGetty[12675]: <-- [23:AT+FLID="tsistarfxsrv"\r]
Oct  7 13:59:10 dess FaxGetty[12675]: --> [2:OK]
Oct  7 13:59:10 dess FaxGetty[12675]: <-- [9:AT+FAA=1\r]
Oct  7 13:59:11 dess FaxGetty[12675]: --> [2:OK]
Oct  7 13:59:11 dess FaxGetty[12675]: STATE CHANGE: BASE -> RUNNING
Oct  7 14:01:51 dess FaxGetty[12675]: STATE CHANGE: RUNNING -> LISTENING
Oct  7 14:01:51 dess FaxGetty[12675]: --> [4:RING]
Oct  7 14:01:51 dess FaxGetty[12675]: STATE CHANGE: LISTENING -> ANSWERING
Oct  7 14:01:51 dess FaxGetty[12675]: ANSWER: CID REJECTED
Oct  7 14:01:51 dess FaxGetty[12675]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Oct  7 14:01:52 dess FaxGetty[12675]: --> [2:OK]
Oct  7 14:01:54 dess FaxGetty[12675]: <-- [30:AT&F&C1&D2X4S7=55E0V1Q0S0=0H0\r]
Oct  7 14:01:55 dess FaxGetty[12675]: --> [29:AT&F&C1&D2X4S7=55E0V1Q0S0=0H0]
Oct  7 14:01:55 dess FaxGetty[12675]: --> [2:OK]
Oct  7 14:01:55 dess FaxGetty[12675]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&E4&D3&C1\r]
Oct  7 14:01:55 dess FaxGetty[12675]: --> [2:OK]
Oct  7 14:01:55 dess FaxGetty[12675]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=?\r]
Oct  7 14:01:55 dess FaxGetty[12675]: /dev/modem: Can not initialize modem.
Oct  7 14:01:55 dess FaxGetty[12675]: STATE CHANGE: ANSWERING -> MODEMWAIT (timeout 30)

and part of spool/etc/config.modem:
RingsBeforeAnswer:      1
AdaptiveAnswer:         yes
AnswerRotary:           data
ModemAnswerCmd:         AT+FCLASS=0;A
#ModemAnswerDataCmd:    ATH+FCLASS=0;A
#
# Modem-related stuff: should reflect modem command interface
# and hardware connection/cabling (e.g. flow control).
#
ModemType:              Class2          # use class 2 interface
ModemRate:              19200           # lock rate for DCE-DTE communication
ModemFlowControl:       rtscts          # default
#
ModemHardFlowCmd:       AT&E4           # hardware flow control
ModemSoftFlowCmd:       AT&E5           # software flow control
ModemSetupDTRCmd:       AT&D3           # setup so DTR drop resets modem
ModemSetupDCDCmd:       AT&C1           # setup so DCD reflects carrier (or not)
ModemSetupAACmd:        AT+FAA=1        # enable adaptive-answer in class 2
#
# NB: some models get confused by the @
#
ModemDialCmd:           ATDT%s@         # T for tone dialing, @ for silence
#
Class2RecvDataTrigger:  "\022"          # character sent to modem to start recv
#
ModemResetCmds: "AT&F&C1&D2X4S7=55"


please be sure to address to me; i unsubscribed this list some time ago.

--
Hume dot Smith at Dess dot Tallships dot IStar dot CA
<URL:http://dess.tallships.istar.ca/%7Ehclsmith/>

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 13:22:57 -0300
From: Julio Cesar Hegedus <Spectroman@planethouse.com.br>
Reply-To: juliochegedus@planethouse.com.br
Organization: Planet House ISP
To: "flexfax@sgi.com" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Phase B Error
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi all.

When trying to connect with a FAX machine the following problem occurs.

-----------cuted----------------
Oct 01 22:41:15.03: [ 1115]: REMOTE HANGUP: Unspecified Transmit Phase B
error (code 20)
Oct 01 22:41:15.03: [ 1115]: SEND FAILED: Unspecified Transmit Phase B
error
Oct 01 22:41:15.03: [ 1115]: SEND FAILED: Unspecified Transmit Phase B
error; too many attempts to send
Oct 01 22:41:15.03: [ 1115]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Oct 01 22:41:15.28: [ 1115]: --> [2:OK]
Oct 01 22:41:15.28: [ 1115]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Oct 01 22:41:15.28: [ 1115]: SESSION END

    ---- Unsent job status ----

The Hylafax was using USR Sporster v.34+, operating in Class2.0 mode, I
think there's an error in GettyArgs (-h %l F_%s), or other thing that I
don't know! I have Linux Slackware here.

If anyone have knowledge about this problem, and already solve it,
please HELP ME!

[]'s
Spectroman.

ps.: sorry about my poor english :-)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Phase B Error
To: juliochegedus@planethouse.com.br
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:48:22 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> The Hylafax was using USR Sporster v.34+, operating in Class2.0 mode, I

You didn't include sufficient logging detail to be of much use, however
there were many reports a few months ago that certain firmware revisions
of the Sportster v.34+ send corrupt responses in anything except
Class 1 mode.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: "Manuel Francisco Mazariegos Navas" <mmaza@guate.net>
To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Phase B error
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:45:03 -0600
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi, I'm running Hylfax v4.0pl1 alpha022 on Red Hat Linux 4.2 ( Blitmore)
and using a USR v.34 Courier or Sporster modem configuration file, I have
already installed the software but when I try to use the sendfax command,
the modems dials but when it's doing the hadshake gives me the following
error on the log file:

		"Unspecified Transmit Phase B error"

And I don't know what to do

Thanks

Manuel  8-)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:37:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dave Wreski <dave@nic.com>
To: Manuel Francisco Mazariegos Navas <mmaza@guate.net>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Phase B error
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



> Hi, I'm running Hylfax v4.0pl1 alpha022 on Red Hat Linux 4.2 ( Blitmore)
> and using a USR v.34 Courier or Sporster modem configuration file, I have
> already installed the software but when I try to use the sendfax command,
> the modems dials but when it's doing the hadshake gives me the following
> error on the log file:
> 
> 		"Unspecified Transmit Phase B error"

Try this, and please let me know if it fixes it for you too:

Class2NRCmd:            AT+FNR=1,1,1,0  # setup status reporting command

Add this line to your /var/spoool/config.cua1 file in a logical place.

Dave

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:54:44 +0100
From: i9400062@lola.univ-lemans.fr (RINA RALISON)
Subject: flexfax: Communication between two HylaFAX
Apparently-To: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

How to make first HylaFAX to send data to second HylaFAX?   
The first HylaFAX is in Africa, it just receive data from WHFC, it does not 
send fax itself. It look like a spooler.

The second HylaFAX use the modem to send fax, it is located in Europ and
it receive data from the first HylaFAX (not from WHFC)

Thanks for helps

Rina
Ralison

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:34:54 +0200
From: Rina RALISON  (IUP Ch. Gide 94400062) <ralison@deesse.univ-lemans.fr>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Communication between two HylaFAX
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Helo,

How to make first HylaFAX to send data to another second HylaFAX?   
The first HylaFAX is in Africa, it just receive data from WHFC, it does not 
send fax itself. It look like a spooler.

The second HylaFAX use the modem to send fax, it is located in Europe and
it receive data from the first HylaFAX (not from WHFC)

Thanks for helps

Rina Ralison    

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
X-Authentication-Warning: tui.pinnacle.co.nz: jonc owned process doing -bs
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:09:14 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
To: Rina RALISON <ralison@deesse.univ-lemans.fr>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Communication between two HylaFAX
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Rina RALISON wrote:

> How to make first HylaFAX to send data to another second HylaFAX?   
> The first HylaFAX is in Africa, it just receive data from WHFC, it does not 
> send fax itself. It look like a spooler.
> 
> The second HylaFAX use the modem to send fax, it is located in Europe and
> it receive data from the first HylaFAX (not from WHFC)

There isn't any simple way to forward a fax from one host to another
to be transmitted. HylaFAX doesn't quite have the facilities for this
built in.

However. You could hack/replace faxsend(1) to invoke a transfer from
the 1st host to the 2nd host via {uucp|mail|ftp}, and have the 2nd
host submit the file to its local HylaFAX server when it receives it.

Cheers.
--
Jonathan Chen                          e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz
  Pinnacle Software Ltd                Voice  : +64.9.415.4460
  Auckland, New Zealand                Fax    : +64.9.415.4250

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Zdravko Balorda <zdravc@lie.fe.uni-lj.si>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Communication between two HylaFAX (fwd)
To: ralison@deesse.univ-lemans.fr (Rina RALISON)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:54:14 +0100 (MET)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
X-Organization: Faculty of Electrical Engineering, Ljubljana
X-Dept: Laboratory for Industrial Electronics
X-Dept: Laboratory for CIM
X-Postal: Trzaska 25, SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia
X-Comm: Phone +386 61 1768-203   Fax: +386 61 1264-630
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> > > How to make first HylaFAX to send data to another second HylaFAX?   
> > Why do you do that? Why not sending directly from WHFC?
> 
> Because the WHFC pass through an ISP. Connection between Africa and Europe is
> very slow : too much expensive. Do you understand what I mean?
> 

Well, hylafax is not designed to work this way. However, you may try using
host in Africa to queue faxes in ..../sendq directory, configure it to send
faxes only at say, midnight, and then send all files to .../docq directory
in Europe, either by ftp or perhaps by nfs mount. It sounds weird but it just
might work.

Zdravko.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: flexfax@sgi.com
From: thoth@purplefrog.com
Subject: flexfax: HylaFax bug in SNPPserver
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 16:32:15 -0400
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


  I have hylafax-v4.0pl1 on a RedHat 4.1 Linux box.  I'm trying to
sendpage from a remote machine.  The hfaxd SEGVs on me.  When using
sendpage from a local machine, it works just fine.

  Using my netpipes utilities and the wonderful GDB attach feature, I
managed to nail the segment of code that is misbehaving:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x806be56 in SNPPServer::loginCmd (this=0x80be6b8, loginID=0x80ba8f0 "thoth", 
    pass=0x0) at SNPPServer.c++:993
993                 if (pass[0] == '\0' || !streq(crypt(pass, passwd), passwd)) 

  As you can see from the GDB stack dump, pass == 0, so dereferencing it
will cause most OSs to SEGV (excepting the really wacky ones who map it
to a NUL character).  Add a check to ensure that pass is non-0 .

  This bug will not be exercised if the user is authorized to use the
service without a password.  Since I hadn't configured my etc/hosts
properly, I suffered this bug.

-- 
Bob Forsman                                   thoth@gainesville.fl.us
           http://www.gainesville.fl.us/~thoth/

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de
Subject: Re: flexfax: HylaFax bug in SNPPserver
To: thoth@purplefrog.com
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:07:20 +0200 (MSZ)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
>From: guru@sisis.de (Matthias Apitz)
Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de (Matthias Apitz)
X-FAX-cover: faxcover-sisis.ps
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

thoth@purplefrog.com wrote:
    
    
      I have hylafax-v4.0pl1 on a RedHat 4.1 Linux box.  I'm trying to
    sendpage from a remote machine.  The hfaxd SEGVs on me.  When using
    sendpage from a local machine, it works just fine.
    
      Using my netpipes utilities and the wonderful GDB attach feature, I
    managed to nail the segment of code that is misbehaving:
    
    Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
    0x806be56 in SNPPServer::loginCmd (this=0x80be6b8, loginID=0x80ba8f0 "thoth", 
        pass=0x0) at SNPPServer.c++:993
    993                 if (pass[0] == '\0' || !streq(crypt(pass, passwd), passwd)) 
    
      As you can see from the GDB stack dump, pass == 0, so dereferencing it
    will cause most OSs to SEGV (excepting the really wacky ones who map it
    to a NUL character).  Add a check to ensure that pass is non-0 .
    
      This bug will not be exercised if the user is authorized to use the
    service without a password.  Since I hadn't configured my etc/hosts
    properly, I suffered this bug.

Thanks for the bugfix; I think the simplest way is changing
in SNPPServer.h:

	void loginCmd(const char* loginID, const char* pwd = NULL);
to
	void loginCmd(const char* loginID, const char* pwd = "");


BTW: Do you have some information why some systems map a NULL pointer
to a 0x00 and others don't?

	matthias

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: thoth@purplefrog.com
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: HylaFax bug in SNPPserver 
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 13:00:40 -0400
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de ,in message <9710091807.AA07194@kant.SOFTCON.de>, wro
	te: 

> 
> BTW: Do you have some information why some systems map a NULL pointer
> to a 0x00 and others don't?

  Perhaps I should explain.  The null pointer is always comparable to zero in
an ANSI or C++ system.  I'm fairly certain they defined it that way.  The bit
battern in memory or register may be non-zero, but when you convert it or
compare it to an int, it must look like (int)0.

  But, I was talking about something else.  I have heard legends that if you
dereference a NULL pointer on some systems (I believe HPUX had this "feature")
it gives you a NUL character: '\0' .

  Consider the code

  char *a = 0;
  char c = *a;                /* SEGV on most systems */
  printf("%d", (int)c);       /* prints out 0 on the wacky systems */

  Yes, this can lead to sloppy coding by people weaned on such systems.  I
object to the very concept that you could dereference a NULL pointer and keep
running.

-- 
Bob Forsman                                   thoth@gainesville.fl.us
           http://www.gainesville.fl.us/~thoth/

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 19:56:19 -0400
To: HylaFAX Mailling List <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@magma.ca>
Subject: flexfax: HylaFAX, Areacodes, Exchanges
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi.  I'm wondering about hylafax's use of areacodes and exchanges.

I am running a fax server in Country +1, areacode 613.  This areacode
covers a LARGE region.  The thing is that there are many exchanges local,
and many exchanges which are long distance, and require dialling 1613xxxxxxx.

In order have HylaFAX dial the 1613 when needed when deciphering an number,
do I have to  put all the exchanges into the etc/dialrules, and right a
rule for each exchange? (Or have I missed a man page/config file somewhere
which covers this).]

Thanks.

Aidan.

Aidan Van Dyk                               aidan@magma.ca
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Magma Communications Ltd                 Phone: +1 613 228-3565
   Unit 201, 52 Antares Drive               Fax:   +1 613 228-8313
   Nepean, Ontario, K2E 7Z1                 WWW:   http://www.magma.ca/

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: HylaFAX, Areacodes, Exchanges
To: aidan@magma.ca (Aidan Van Dyk)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:30:08 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> In order have HylaFAX dial the 1613 when needed when deciphering an number,
> do I have to  put all the exchanges into the etc/dialrules, and right a
> rule for each exchange? (Or have I missed a man page/config file somewhere
> which covers this).]

How else would you expect it to be done?

Hylafax wants to convert the number you supply to a canonical form, in
particular so that it can record information about the remote machine.
It also needs to be able to work out a legal dial string for that number.
It doesn't have all the world dialcodes embedded in the code.

If you always dial a number in the same form and that is a legal code from
the location of the fax server, then you probably don't need any translation
at all.  Also, in the UK, one can always dial the national form of the 
number, so it is not necessary to strip excess codes from the number.  That
might be the case in Canada, or it might not, or it might be location 
dependent.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:27:14 -0400 (EDT)
Organization: The Creative Group
From: Patrick Gardella <patrick@cre8tivegroup.com>
To: flexfax@celestial.com,
 questions@freebsd.org
Subject: flexfax: Faxmail error? HELP!!!
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I am running Hylafax 4.0pl1 on FreeBSD 2.2.1 on a Pentium 200 with 128 Megs
RAM.  Sendmail is 8.8.5.  Modems are seven Multitech Multimodems 2834ZDX on a Cy
clades8Yo multiport serial card. I'm sending this to both the HylaFAX and 
FreeBSD lists to get input from both parties. 

I've got a high volume email to fax server set up that processes up to 2500 
faxes a day.  (1500 is typical.)  It takes a while, but works through them.  
No other major apps are running on the system besides sending faxes.

I got a number of the following messages today.

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
"|/usr/local/bin/faxmail -d -n joe@202-224-6079"
    (expanded from: <joe@dc.numbersusa.com>)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Cannot fork
554 "|/usr/local/bin/faxmail -d -n joe@202-224-6079"... unknown mailer
error 2

All of them had the error code 2 that says "Cannot fork"

I've included some stats on the system to provide some clues to what
might be happening.

/etc/sendmail.cf had MaxDaemonChild and ConnectionRateThrottle commented
out, so they are not limiting the number of fork children sendmail has.

The kernel is compiled with  "maxusers" as 40 giving me 656 processes.

SO.  What is happening?  Which is it that cannot fork?  faxmail?  or sendmail?
What you see here is the limit of my knowledge in this area!

Can anyone suggest a fix?

Patrick

#df
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/wd0a       63567    30929    27553    53%    /
/dev/wd0s2f   3984516   515008  3150747    14%    /usr
/dev/wd0s2e     29727     4483    22866    16%    /var
procfs              4        4        0   100%    /proc
#top
last pid: 22278;  load averages:  0.55,  0.74,  0.87                 08:45:55
42 processes:  2 running, 39 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU states: 40.1% user,  0.0% nice, 59.9% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0% idle
Mem: 64M Active, 5508K Inact, 23M Wired, 68K Cache, 3177K Buf, 32M Free
Swap: 264M Total, 64K Used, 264M Free

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
  156 root     57   0  2032K  2372K RUN    716:07 39.25% 39.25% faxq
  169 root      2   0   540K   728K select 183:03  0.23%  0.23% ppp
22276 root     28   0   304K   856K RUN      0:00  0.21%  0.15% top
22278 root      3   0   556K  1376K cydtr    0:00  0.63%  0.11% faxsend
20139 root     18   0   640K   960K pause    0:00  0.00%  0.00% tcsh
  142 root     18   0   500K   812K pause    3:59  0.00%  0.00% httpd
  102 root     18   0   332K   448K pause    0:16  0.00%  0.00% cron
   22 root     18   0   200K    80K pause    0:00  0.00%  0.00% adjkerntz
    1 root     10   0   456K   164K wait     0:05  0.00%  0.00% init
22254 root      3   0   600K  1456K ttyin    0:00  0.00%  0.00% faxsend
22200 root      3   0   576K  1420K ttyin    0:00  0.00%  0.00% faxsend
22277 root      3   0   576K  1420K ttyin    0:00  0.00%  0.00% faxsend
22258 root      3   0   576K  1420K ttyin    0:00  0.00%  0.00% faxsend
  214 root      3   0   164K   488K ttyin    0:00  0.00%  0.00% getty
  213 root      3   0   164K   488K ttyin    0:00  0.00%  0.00% getty
  974 root      3   0   164K   416K ttyin    0:00  0.00%  0.00% getty
  210 root      2   0   572K   984K select   0:38  0.00%  0.00% faxgetty

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:00:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Elliot Smorodinsky <elliots@epower.net>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Hylafax/tip problem
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

	System: Digital AlphaServer 400 running OSF/1 4.0, HylaFax4.0pl1, 
with a US Robotics Sportster V.34+ faxmodem attached.

	Situation: I need to trade control of the modem back and forth 
between HylaFax and tip. (I.e. I need to transfer a file via tip, and 
then send out a fax to confirm the transfer.) Does anyone have any ideas 
how I can manage this? Faxgetty keeps grqabbing control of the modem for 
itself in mid-call.

	Thanks in advance...

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:23:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Nico Garcia <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax/tip problem
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Elliot Smorodinsky wrote:

> 	System: Digital AlphaServer 400 running OSF/1 4.0, HylaFax4.0pl1, 
> with a US Robotics Sportster V.34+ faxmodem attached.

> 	Situation: I need to trade control of the modem back and forth 
> between HylaFax and tip. (I.e. I need to transfer a file via tip, and 
> then send out a fax to confirm the transfer.) Does anyone have any ideas 
> how I can manage this? Faxgetty keeps grqabbing control of the modem for 
> itself in mid-call.

Tip knows about lock files, so does HylaFAX. Do you have HylaFAX pointing
at the same location for lock files as tip uses under OSF/1.0?

			Nico Garcia
			Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: flexfax@sgi.com
cc: Geetanjali <geta@sdnhq.undp.org>
Reply-to: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
From: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
Subject: flexfax: Hylafax 4.0pl1 doesn't answer incoming calls
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:50:41 +0530
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Dear friends,

I'd posted this problem to the Hylafax mailing list two months ago, but
not received any answer. The same problem has now reappeared on another
machine. This time it is intermittent; the last time it was repeatable. I
am enclosing the original post, since the symptoms there are the same
in the new case too.

In the previous case, the problem mysteriously went away after we tried
changing serial cables, serial ports, and serial cards on the computer.
We don't know which of these took care of the problem. In the current
case, I find the same symptoms, but they sometimes come and go. I have
set Hylafax to answer after 2 rings. Sometimes it times out,
reinitialises, and goes to RUNNING state even while the phone keeps
ringing, just as described below. Sometimes, it registers two rings in
the log files, complains about timeouts, registers a few more rings, and
then answers the phone. Once it does answer the phone, it works fine.
I've received faxes from people yesterday. Some of them had to try ten
times to get through. Once they managed to get carrier from my side,
their faxes came in perfectly.

Like before, I am using a 486DX4 with 16MB RAM, IDE hard disks, and
Hylafax 4.0pl0 binary for Linux that I picked up from ftp.sgi.com. My
modem in both cases is a ZyXEL Omni O288S with firmware 1.18. In the
last case, I was using Slackware 3.1.0 with kernel 2.0.27. In this case,
I am using Slackware 3.2.0 with kernel 2.0.29. In both cases, the libg++
shared libraries on the system are more than recent enough to handle
Hylafax' requirements as mentioned in the FAQ w.r.t. older Linux.

Like before, the modem is fine, outgoing data connections are fine,
outgoing faxes are fine. I haven't tested the modem for incoming data
connections.

Will someone please comment on my problem? I really hope I will get some
responses this time.

Thanks and regards,

Shuvam

------- Forwarded Message

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Yngvi Sigurjonsson <yngvi@hagkaup.is>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax 4.0pl1 doesn't answer incoming calls
To: shuvam@spacenetindia.com
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 17:41:25 +0000 (GMT)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com, Geetanjali@celestial.com, geta@sdnhq.undp.org
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> Like before, I am using a 486DX4 with 16MB RAM, IDE hard disks, and
> Hylafax 4.0pl0 binary for Linux that I picked up from ftp.sgi.com. My
> modem in both cases is a ZyXEL Omni O288S with firmware 1.18. In the
> last case, I was using Slackware 3.1.0 with kernel 2.0.27. In this case,
> I am using Slackware 3.2.0 with kernel 2.0.29. In both cases, the libg++
> shared libraries on the system are more than recent enough to handle
> Hylafax' requirements as mentioned in the FAQ w.r.t. older Linux.
> 
> Like before, the modem is fine, outgoing data connections are fine,
> outgoing faxes are fine. I haven't tested the modem for incoming data
> connections.
> 
> Will someone please comment on my problem? I really hope I will get some
> responses this time.


I just had a similar problem although mine was persistent, I could
no get hylafax to answer a incoming call. My setup is Linux Redhat 4.1
and Hylafax 4.0 with some patches and ZyXel 2864I (I am not sure about 
the model number but it is ISDN Elite). then I tracked it down to using
setserial to bump the serial speed up to 115 Kbits, the problem
vanished when I did:

setserial /dev/cua3 spd_normal

I had been using Hylafax for a long time with a hayes accura modem without
this problems.

Hope this helps
 
yngvi@hagkaup.is

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: Yngvi Sigurjonsson <yngvi@hagkaup.is>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com, geta@sdnhq.undp.org,
        Kishan Parekh <kishan@spacenetindia.com>,
        Ketan Sanghvi <ketan@wanland.com>
Reply-to: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
From: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax 4.0pl1 doesn't answer incoming calls 
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 12:46:25 +0530
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

| I just had a similar problem although mine was persistent, I could
| no get hylafax to answer a incoming call. My setup is Linux Redhat 4.1
| and Hylafax 4.0 with some patches and ZyXel 2864I (I am not sure about 
| the model number but it is ISDN Elite). then I tracked it down to using
| setserial to bump the serial speed up to 115 Kbits, the problem
| vanished when I did:
| 
| setserial /dev/cua3 spd_normal
| 
| I had been using Hylafax for a long time with a hayes accura modem without
| this problems.

Wow! Thanks a lot. I'll certainly try this whenever I get this problem
again. Does setserial also show the speed settings of the port, in case
I don't know what the current settings are?

regards,
Shuvam

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:53:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>,
        Alessandro Coppelli <coppelli@sun3.dsea.unipi.it>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Problem with binary on Linux 2.0.30
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Phil Watkinson wrote:

> At 09:31 12/09/1997 --100, Alessandro Coppelli wrote:

> >   I don't have the file Courie-Bold. Where is it ?
 
> This is an addition to Q44 - No font metric information found - that is
> waiting for the next update of the FAQ; please read it in conjunction with
> the existing text.
 
>    It is worth emphasizing that textfmt doesn't use the ghostscript
>    Fontmap. It looks for a file, for instance, called 'Courier-Bold.afm'
>    and, if it cannot find that, a file called 'Courier-Bold' in the AFM
>    directory. If you want to use the ghostscript fonts, which use a 
>    dos-compatible 8.3 filename format, you will have to provide your 
>    own links.

Or, you can use a Perl script I wrote 'fontmap.pl'. I submitted it to
the incoming directory of the flexfax site, but it's no longer there...
*or* in the contrib area either.

The purpose of 'fontmap.pl' is to parse the Fontmap file and create the
appropriate symlinks between the afm files there and the names textfmt
expects.

>    Alternatively, there is a set of afm fonts included in the source 
>    package; or if you have a binary distribution, there is a seperate
>    file called afm-tar.gz at ftp.sgi.com/sgi/fax/binary.

The problem with this approach is that the afm files supplied in afm-tar
won't necessarily match your actual fonts. Linking the afm files you
already have -- matched to the fonts you have -- to proper names, is less
of a band-aid.

Does anyone involved with the FTP site where fontmap.pl is now that it's
gone from 'incoming'?

- Evan

PS: I also submitted a revision to Q44 of the FAQ in July.

From coppelli@sun3.dsea.unipi.it  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 08:17:23 --100
From: coppelli@sun3.dsea.unipi.it (Alessandro Coppelli)
To: pkw@elgro.co.uk
Subject: Re: flexfax: Problem with binary on Linux 2.0.30

> From pkw@elgro.co.uk Fri Sep 12 19:13:36 1997
> X-Sender: philw@elgro.co.uk
> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:37:22 +0100
> To: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
> From: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: flexfax: Problem with binary on Linux 2.0.30
> Cc: Alessandro Coppelli <coppelli@sun3.dsea.unipi.it>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> 
> At 09:31 12/09/1997 --100, Alessandro Coppelli wrote:
> >Hi to all.
> >[snip-snip]
> >   
> >2) When I used client WHFC I obtained alway : Login failure , but on the
> >   server (in my account ) with faxstat -v :
> >   Trying localhost at port 4559 ...
> >   Connect to localhost
> >   -> USER <my_account>
> >   230 User <my_account> logged in
> >   ecc. ecc. ecc.
> >   
> >   My etc/host is :
> >   
> >   127.0.0.1
> >   localhost
> >   ^my_account@on_server$
> >   
> >
> 
> You do mean the file /var/spool/fax/etc/hosts ?  The command 'man 5 hosts'
> will tell all about this file - and if you understand a word of it you're
> a better person than me. 
> 
> After a lot of trial and error, I found simply adding the username on a
> seperate line, and the fully qualified domain name on another line gave
> access : for example, my user name is philw, the fax server is called
> derrick and the domain is elgro.co.uk  - so the entries are :
> 
> 	philw
> 	philw@derrick.elgro.co.uk
> 
> Perhaps a regular expressions guru will provide the technically correct
> way of doing this - but in the meantime, I hope it helps.
> 
> Ciao,
> Phil Watkinson,
> Boston, UK.

  Thank you very much, all ok  ( I hope :-)  )
  
  Alessandro Coppelli

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: root@raider.raider.net (Mark J. Bailey [HOME])
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future
To: david@djwhome.demon.co.uk (David Woolley)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 06:46:17 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: rjc@trump.net.au, root@raider.jobsoft.com, flexfax@celestial.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> > 3)A port to NT - Recently cygnus have released some librarys to make NT
> 
> The Cygnus libraries are going commercial, so you won't get a free port
> this way.
> 
> > machine look like a unix machine, i imagine this would greatly speed up a
> > port of the code
> 
> Going to NT would significantly increase the support load.  One of the main
> reasons for going to NT seems to be that people have been convinced that
> they can get the power of Unix without the need to understand it (everything
> is GUI) - actually the problem with NT is that you can't do everything with
> the GUI and it is very difficult to find out how to go round it, and normally
> requires much more complex programming than simple shell scripts.
> 
> Hylafax, in particular, represents all that the NT lovers hate in Unix:
> lots of component programs with text files to configure them.  To really
> reach the NT market (rather than people forced into NT, from Unix, by
> management policy) you would have to create a complete GUI management and
> configuration suite; in a lot of cases, that is all that Microsoft do -
> e.g. Microsoft DNS appears to be a thin veneer of GUI, giving you
> restricted access to the zone files in the standard BIND code.
> 
> You are not going to get away with issuing source patches (already a problem
> with many Linux users++, but they do have the option and are more likely to
> be motivated), and even lists of registry key changes will probably not be
> taken well.
> 
> ++ I'm a Linux user, but without a plug and play background.
> 

I agree with what you say albiet I also feel a bit disenchanted that 
"computing for the rest of us" means a lower common denominator overall
and it also seems to lock in that lower common denominator such that 
emerging innovations are going to run into greater and greater deaf ears.  :-(
A classic case in point is where would Internet today be had it been 
left solely up to Bill Gates????  Well, probably where alot of us would
rather it had stayed!  :-)  With the appearance of Linux on the scene, I
feel that the computing hobbiest community finally has access to unix the
way it did for DOS and is embracing the opportunity to homebrew the beginnings
of what leads to a more GUI oriented management missing from unix (to any
real degree) to date.  This speculation is easily observed if you look at
the explosion of contributed software (character and X11/GUI) for unix/linux
on the past four years.  Used to be that contributed X11 software could be
counted in a few dozen (and what was on the contrib subdir of the X11 
distrutions) and now, well, the contrib directory at RedHat is considerable!
I firmly believe (IMHO!) that freely avaliable systems like Linux and FreeBSD
will end up being what saves unix and not good marketing!  SCO is 
experiencing (last financial report I looked at) record earnings.  Although
impossible to measure effectively, how much of that was influenced by someone
at a company getting Linux at home or at the office and playing with it and
learning that unix has tremendous computing power for what hardware it 
requires (computing power not one-to-one with horse power) and then further
influencing the decision process in favor of unix over NT - I know that in
a couple of cases with some large clients of ours, this in fact did happen!
But these are my thoughts and I am *NOT* interested in carrying debate on
this here in this forum.  :-)  There are PLENTY of other places for this.

Now, continuing my original thread, where is HYLAFAX going to go?  A couple
of people in the list that I would like to have heard from are Sam Leffler
(the creator of HylaFax) and Paul Vixie.  I single out Paul as he has 
graciously played host to the Hylafax web site for some time and (IMHO)
seems to usually have a good finger on the pulse of something he is involved
with.  Either of these two reading and would care to venture commentary?

And, parallel to this, what (if any) plans does SGI maybe have for Hylafax???
Ie, could there be some movement behind the scenes to take it commercial
as has happened in some other arenas (like NCSA web server of unix LISTPROC)???
I (for one) would certainly not like to see this happen as with the case of
LISTPROC, the moment CREN bought rights to it, the "free" version was 
frozen and heavy restructions placed on any further "free" development, etc., 
and essentially it is a dying/fading GEM!  So much so that the author has
announced he is leaving CREN to form a venture to bring back another similar
system as an alternative.  What can SGI do with Hylafax anyways?  Best I
can see they could do whatever they wanted (although working as I do I
certainly have not taken time to research such to any nth degree).

The reason for my interest in this is that over the years, Hylafax has come
to standout (IMHO) as one of the top 10 useful packages that I have run
across and I want to know more about where it is going (if only to satisfy
my own hope in a bright future for freely available quality systems - dream
or no).

FWIW,

Mark

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: garyng@ibm.net
cc: flexfax@celestial.com, "Davide Bolcioni" <davide.bolcioni@aster.it>
Reply-to: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
From: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future 
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 11:36:33 +0530
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

| Windows 95 driver is 16 bit one and almost identical to 3.1.
| NT is a completely different story which NEED some kind of
| printer monitor which I can tell you is really tough.

Why don't we, as a community, just move from printer driver writing, to
Samba? I'm sure the next version of MS's brilliant OS will redefine the
printer drivers again. Isn't it easier to move to one simple strategy
(Respond+printfax.pl) which works virtually unchanged in Win3.1, Win95,
and WinNT?

just my two bits worth,
Shuvam

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Leslie Mikesell <les@Mcs.Net>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (SAMBA)
To: ninja@hutch.com.au (Anthony Green (HTAL))
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:59:19 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: shuvam@spacenetindia.com, flexfax@celestial.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> Ive watched the discussion on the windows client / printing thing .. and
> am pretty much against using samba to achieve this ...

I think you are missing the big picture here.  Basically if you have unix
machines and Windows machines on the same network you should install
samba to integrate them (assuming you want to integrate them...).  You
get a lot more than the ability to send faxes as print jobs.

> Mainly becuase if you want to install HylaFAX its pretty much .. make sure
> you have gs installed plus the fonts and go for it .. pretty straight forward.
> 
> Now while the addition of a samba server seems straight forward, its like
> adding *another* full package to the system .. ie. not a helper package.
> Adding samba and the configuration that goes along with it is like setting
> up another hylafax server ... it has its own problems, compatibility or
> otherwise and more importantly .. Hylfax would rely heavily on Samba for
> this particular functionality ... If something changes in Samba .. and breaks
> HylaFAX then there not much you can do other than change HylaFAX ...

Samba transports the postscript to the unix box.  How can that break?   The
actual submission is then done by a script that invokes the unix version
of sendfax.

> While the other road of making the dll's or wotever talk to hylafax properly
> is the more difficult solution .. I think its the way to go with this type
> of problem if it is implemented with HylaFAX...

I certainly don't have anything against this approach, I just don't see anyone
doing it, mostly because you need to know the internals of windows printing
mechanism and I'd expect anything based on that to be much more fragile with
respect to future changes than a network print server.

Note that if installing samba as a separate step seems too complicated you
can always get a Linux distribution like RedHat that will have it running
out of the box.

Les Mikesell
  les@mcs.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Leslie Mikesell <les@Mcs.Net>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future
To: kenh@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (Ken Hornstein)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:03:36 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu, flexfax@celestial.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
> However, since HylaFAX uses many of the characteristics of Unix
> terminal devices, I doubt the server side would port to NT.  Client
> shouldn't be that hard, though.

Hmmm, I wonder if someone at cynus would be interested in helping
to make this work as a test case for serial port access through
posix emulation?  It should be possible if the functions are
mapped efficiently to the native equivalents.

Les Mikesell
  les@mcs.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Leslie Mikesell <les@Mcs.Net>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future
To: rjc@trump.net.au (Robert Colquhoun)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:23:45 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: les@Mcs.Net, garyn@winclient.com, flexfax@celestial.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> >The missing piece with either technique is a database-like phonebook
> >so you can easily send to selected groups.  This should have some
> >way of combining private and system-wide lists.  LDAP would work but
> >it is much more complicated than samba to install and maintain.
> >
> Yes - this makes it look more and more like a solution based on email.
> (i dont imagine you would see an available LDAP solution this millenium)

I wouldn't say that with both Netscape and Microsoft in the picture.
The free umich code is actually usable for this but it is a lot of
work to set it up and the LDAP specs still seem to be changing.
I think email would really work well for list expansion and routing
(i.e. let the email transport take it to the best of several fax
servers for final delivery) but I'm not sure how to handle security
in that context since it is pretty easy to forge email.  If you
already have an email gateway then it doesn't matter - you could
throw everything at it.   

> They use a  file format 'awd'(i think) that i've never seen anywhere else,
> apparently microsoft is working on new fax software for windows NT -
> personal fax for NT workstation(to begin with, expanding later to full
> faxserver for NT).
> Personal Fax apparently uses tiff files, they've thrown away the awd file
> format

Do you know if this will interoperate with the existing fax system or
will they (in typical Microsoft fashion) require that you replace
everything or use only NT to use it?

Les Mikesell
  les@mcs.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 11:49:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: flexfax@celestial.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future 
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Ken Hornstein wrote:

> >> Thought you might find this interesting.  They've ported X libraries over
> >> to NT, as well as a Kerberos 5 server and various X applications
> >> using this free package.  Maybe it will be of use to you or anyone else
> >> doing a port of HylaFax:
> >
> >Please note: the Kerberos implementation for Windows NT is not compatible
> >with the standard Kerberos release. Microsnot is once again taking someone
> >else's design, modifying it so it will not interoperate, and trying to
> >sell it as a major Microsnot product.
> 
> I'd just like to clarify something.
> 
> The Kerberos implementation _done by Microsoft_ is the broken version
> ("broken" being a relative term :-) ).  The one done by Cygnus _using
> the GNU-WIN32 package_ is a close-to-straight port of the MIT V5
> release (but there are still a few #ifdef's in the code).

Fair enough: I'm not familiar with the Cygnus NT product but am unsurprised
at vastly superior quality, since they've done quite good previous releases
of Kerberos.

> However, since HylaFAX uses many of the characteristics of Unix
> terminal devices, I doubt the server side would port to NT.  Client
> shouldn't be that hard, though.

Good question: since NT is actually VMS at its guts (check out the
lawsuits involving DEC and Microsoft and David Cutler, who wrote much
of NT after leaving DEC), it might *theoretically* not be that
difficult. But the secretive nature of Microsoft about its drivers,
protocols, etc. could make it completely infeasible.


			Nico Garcia
			Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: flexfax@celestial.com
Reply-to: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
From: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (SAMBA) 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 00:06:32 +0530
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

| Ive watched the discussion on the windows client / printing thing .. and
| am pretty much against using samba to achieve this ...

I expect some of you will feel this way, but I've been using both for
some time now (about three years for Hylafax, and two for Samba) and I
feel that Samba is very simple. There are only a few things to remember
and only one file to edit if you start with the binaries. And this file
has just about five to six lines to edit if you want to set up a network
printer. If you're using Linux, I really think Samba is a very simple
thing to set up. Others who've done it the first time also agree.

| Now while the addition of a samba server seems straight forward, its like
| adding *another* full package to the system .. ie. not a helper package.
| Adding samba and the configuration that goes along with it is like setting
| up another hylafax server ... it has its own problems, compatibility or
| otherwise and more importantly .. Hylfax would rely heavily on Samba for
| this particular functionality ... If something changes in Samba .. and breaks
| HylaFAX then there not much you can do other than change HylaFAX ...

I feel Samba is les trouble than GS alone. Did you know that many
Windows PS drivers generate PS output which needs patching gs_init.ps?

And in any case, once you install Samba, you don't need to upgrade or
tamper with it. Samba's functionality is quite basic, and as long as
nothing changes with your Windows desktop OS versions, nothing needs to
change with Samba, I'd think.

| While the other road of making the dll's or wotever talk to hylafax properly
| is the more difficult solution .. I think its the way to go with this type
| of problem if it is implemented with HylaFAX...

I'd like to see someone say so, after trying to develop robust systems
software on Windows. I'm just being practical, not elegant.

Shuvam

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
X-Authentication-Warning: tui.pinnacle.co.nz: jonc owned process doing -bs
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:30:34 +1200 (NZST)
From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
To: "Mark J. Bailey [HOME]" <root@raider.raider.net>
cc: Hylafax Mailing list <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Mark J. Bailey [HOME] wrote:

[snip]
> And, parallel to this, what (if any) plans does SGI maybe have for Hylafax???
> Ie, could there be some movement behind the scenes to take it commercial
> as has happened in some other arenas (like NCSA web server of unix LISTPROC)???

As I understand the current COPYRIGHT notice with 4.0pl1, you can take
the current source code, copy/modify/sell/distribute for any purpose.

So. I don't think that SGI has any plans to do anything with HylaFAX
aside from making it available - they're not maintaining it at all.
--
Jonathan Chen                          e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz
  Pinnacle Software Ltd                Voice  : +64.9.415.4460
  Auckland, New Zealand                Fax    : +64.9.415.4250

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:57:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
To: Leslie Mikesell <les@Mcs.Net>
cc: Robert Colquhoun <rjc@trump.net.au>, garyn@winclient.com, 
    flexfax@celestial.com
Subject: flexfax: Hylafax future (*not* on NT, please!)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Leslie Mikesell wrote:

> Do you know if this will interoperate with the existing fax system or
> will they (in typical Microsoft fashion) require that you replace
> everything or use only NT to use it?

It's sentiments like this, true as they are, that make me look upon
efforts to make HylaFAX work on NT with total revulsion.

Microsoft has historically used its applications arm as leverage to push
its own OS and OS upgrades. Want the new version of Office? Gotta buy the
new Windows.

Similar leverage has frequently been used by Microsoft to drive a wedge
into the Unix market. Why do people switch from Unix to NT? Not because
NT is faster or cheaper or more flexible, but because that's where the
applications are. If Microsoft is as Java-friendly as it claims, why is it
now forcing all Java applets to be taken off the Microsoft Network?

How nice that Microsoft and its users can exploit the benefits of free
software, while reciprocating by doing everything they can to destroy
any concepts of open standards, and along the way free OSs such as Linux
and BSD. Perhaps we should work a deal that has HylaFAX ported to NT on
the day that MS-Word, or Visual Basic, or Excel is available for any Unix.

HylaFAX operation is the antithesis of the NT way of doing things. 
Command-line administration, chains of compact tools rather than
monolythic programs, no fancy GUIs, documentation in FAQs and manpages --
all classic Unix methods. How much work would be required to make this
usable in the NT world?

Sorry. Call this the rantings of someone who's being a cranky old fart
tonight if you wish --- but the notion that scarce HylaFAX R&D hours may
be diverted to shoehorn it into NT's limitations makes me sick. While we
may not be able to stop the lemmings from falling for the NT hype, IMO we
ought not to encourage such action either.

- Evan

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:16:16 +0800 (WST)
From: Terry Dwyer 61 8 9491 5161 <tdwyer@io.telstra.com.au>
To: Anthony Green <ninja@hutch.com.au>
cc: shuvam@spacenetindia.com, flexfax@celestial.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (SAMBA)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I couldn't resist replying to this...

On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Anthony Green wrote:

> > 
> > | Fortunately, Samba is fairly easy. And it's considerably more secure
> > | than the standard Microsoft based servers, based on my discussions
> > | with network security consultants. I mean, keeping people's passwords
> > | on line in a readable format is not my idea of wise....

I thoroughly agree with this paragraph.

> > 
> > Fully seconded. Those who have never used Samba will probably have some
> > hesitation looking at yet another package for the first time. But it's
> > far more simple than setting up Hylafax, for example. And it seems to
> > work out of the box for almost all Unix flavours, and provides
> > unparalleled robustness at the client end.

This paragraph is accurate.  Samba _is_ easy to setup compared to hylafax 
and an uncooperative modem.   I am not knocking hylafax in any way, just 
my modem.


> > 
> > Shuvam
> > 
> hey all,
> 
> Ive watched the discussion on the windows client / printing thing .. and
> am pretty much against using samba to achieve this ...

Anyone using unix or a unix clone with Windows machines would probably
have samba installed anyway.  I don't know about Linux, but FreeBSD users
can't mount a FreeBSD filesystem on their Win[3.11|95|NT] machines without
samba. 

> 
> Mainly becuase if you want to install HylaFAX its pretty much .. make sure
> you have gs installed plus the fonts and go for it .. pretty straight forward.

As I said before, it's likely that a large percentage of unix users with 
Win95 machines would already have samba installed.  Those who don't 
probably don't know how easy it is to install and get running.

> 
> Now while the addition of a samba server seems straight forward, its like
> adding *another* full package to the system .. ie. not a helper package.
> Adding samba and the configuration that goes along with it is like setting
> up another hylafax server ... it has its own problems, compatibility or
> otherwise and more importantly .. Hylfax would rely heavily on Samba for
> this particular functionality ... If something changes in Samba .. and breaks
> HylaFAX then there not much you can do other than change HylaFAX ...

Then write to the samba mailing list and report it as a bug.  The guys 
who develop samba are not in the business of removing features - they 
keep adding them.  They _will_ respond to a legitimate bug report.

>From the above, I'd guess you haven't had a lot to do with samba.
I'd be more inclined to think that the next release of Windows would be 
more likely to break something than samba.  Where would you be then? No 
source code - no help diagnosing the problem from Microsoft and no 
alternative method of doing the job.

> 
> While the other road of making the dll's or wotever talk to hylafax properly
> is the more difficult solution .. I think its the way to go with this type
> of problem if it is implemented with HylaFAX...

Dont rely on Microsoft's API remaining static.  Just have a look at the
changes file for Speak Freely (for Win95).  The guy who wrote that has
very little that's good to say about MS being consistent with their C
library calls. 

While I don't see it as a waste of time writing a Windows app that will 
do the whole thing, why should that preclude the development of an 
alternative method using samba.

The old saying "don't put all your eggs in one basket" seems pretty 
appropriate. 8-)

> 
> Just some food for thought .. 
> 
> -- 
> ninja@hutch.com.au
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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:02:46 +0100
To: flexfax@celestial.com
From: Davide Bolcioni <davide.bolcioni@aster.it>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (*not* on NT, please!)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I second this, and some comments my o(1) worth:

>It's sentiments like this, true as they are, that make me look upon
>efforts to make HylaFAX work on NT with total revulsion.

I just want to add that while having HylaFAX run on NT server looks like
a waste of effort to me too, I think that having a NT (Workstation, but I
think it would not make a big difference except maybe for the limitation on
10 connections) client would be a good thing IMHO.

>Microsoft has historically used its applications arm as leverage to push
>its own OS and OS upgrades. Want the new version of Office? Gotta buy the
>new Windows.

Well, to counter this .
>Similar leverage has frequently been used by Microsoft to drive a wedge
>into the Unix market. Why do people switch from Unix to NT? Not because
>NT is faster or cheaper or more flexible, but because that's where the
>applications are. If Microsoft is as Java-friendly as it claims, why is it
>now forcing all Java applets to be taken off the Microsoft Network?

In case anyone doubts, a Java client for HylaFAX would also be welcome. Has
anybody tried the one from Germany, called susefax I believe ?

>HylaFAX operation is the antithesis of the NT way of doing things.
>Command-line administration, chains of compact tools rather than
>monolythic programs, no fancy GUIs, documentation in FAQs and manpages --
>all classic Unix methods. How much work would be required to make this
>usable in the NT world?

Has anybody considered layering a GUI *on top* of this ? Most efforts in the
Linux world do not remove traditional Unix strengths, just build on them a
two-way interface (read conf files to fill fields when GUI is brought up,
rewrite them when saving changes). I think this could become simpler if configuration file access were abstracted away in a library or C++ hierarchy, but there is no real code work behind this statement.

>Sorry. Call this the rantings of someone who's being a cranky old fart
>tonight if you wish --- but the notion that scarce HylaFAX R&D hours may
>be diverted to shoehorn it into NT's limitations makes me sick. While we
>may not be able to stop the lemmings from falling for the NT hype, IMO we
>ought not to encourage such action either.

I also think that the problem is scarce R&D hours; I set myself to the task of
writing a Windows 95 device driver + client application for HylaFAX in my spare time. That's what I am trying to contribute, in GPL to make sure the source will be around for others to improve.

Davide Bolcioni

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
X-Authentication-Warning: rafale.imag.fr: rkail owned process doing -bs
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:25:18 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Richard Kail <Richard.Kail@imag.fr>
To: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
cc: flexfax@celestial.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (*not* on NT, please!)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello !

On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Evan Leibovitch wrote:

> HylaFAX operation is the antithesis of the NT way of doing things. 
> Command-line administration, chains of compact tools rather than
> monolythic programs, no fancy GUIs, documentation in FAQs and manpages --
> all classic Unix methods. How much work would be required to make this
> usable in the NT world?

	Hm. There is something other... There are fax servers for Windows
NT, and they are not soooo bad. Why should we produce another one...

	The trick with Hylafax is, that it fits more or less perfectly in
Unix systems. This is the real value of Hylafax - not the pure
functionality of the package. If you are using a linux or unix box as a mail 
server, as a web server or whatever - you get also a fax server. With a
port to NT, Hylafax can only loose. The commercial packages are all
colorfull blinking beasts with dancing wizards and what ever. I think it
isn't worth to give them a competition...

	I think, the greatest point and problem of hylafax is the lack of
good client software for this. I made several attempts to create a windows 
client - I gave up every time. I also made a little bit reverse
engeneering of other fax packages for windows - they are hooking in the
windows printer driver system and do all other jobs by there own. Ok, WHFC
is a good work and the samba system is a good workaround - but both of
them have their specific problems.

Kind regards,
	Richard

-----
Richard Kail
c/o
Laboratoire TIMC IMAG
Universite Joseph Fourier
Grenoble

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 03:28:45 -0700
From: Domain Administrator <hostmaster@mhsc.com>
Organization: Morgan Hill Software Company
To: Terry Dwyer 61 8 9491 5161 <tdwyer@io.telstra.com.au>
CC: Anthony Green <ninja@hutch.com.au>, shuvam@spacenetindia.com,
        flexfax@celestial.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (SAMBA)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Nor could I <GRIN>

Terry Dwyer 61 8 9491 5161 wrote:
> 
> I couldn't resist replying to this...
> 
> On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Anthony Green wrote:

> > > | Fortunately, Samba is fairly easy. And it's considerably more secure
> > > | than the standard Microsoft based servers, based on my discussions
> > > | with network security consultants. I mean, keeping people's passwords
> > > | on line in a readable format is not my idea of wise....
> 
> I thoroughly agree with this paragraph.
> 
> > >
> > > Fully seconded. Those who have never used Samba will probably have some
> > > hesitation looking at yet another package for the first time. But it's
> > > far more simple than setting up Hylafax, for example. And it seems to
> > > work out of the box for almost all Unix flavours, and provides
> > > unparalleled robustness at the client end.
> 
> This paragraph is accurate.  Samba _is_ easy to setup compared to hylafax
> and an uncooperative modem.   I am not knocking hylafax in any way, just
> my modem.

With very little practice, and a gcc compiler, you can setup a Samba
server in less than 4 hours, including the download. You can either run
it behind tcp_wrappers (in inetd) or use the tcp_wrappers-like
host.allow/deny features, on a per share basis. My gateway has two Samba
shares available outside the domain, but only if you are in a domain
which is allowed. The other shares require you to be part of the
mhsc.com domain. Samba can also read hosts.equiv .

> > Ive watched the discussion on the windows client / printing thing .. and
> > am pretty much against using samba to achieve this ...
> 
> Anyone using unix or a unix clone with Windows machines would probably
> have samba installed anyway.  I don't know about Linux, but FreeBSD users
> can't mount a FreeBSD filesystem on their Win[3.11|95|NT] machines without
> samba.

Actually, with WinNTws, I use NT's LPR to connect directly with my LPRng
spools. I do not use Samba for that. However, this will not work for
Win95 because there is no LPR support for that OS, built-in.

> > Mainly becuase if you want to install HylaFAX its pretty much .. make sure
> > you have gs installed plus the fonts and go for it .. pretty straight forward.
> 
> As I said before, it's likely that a large percentage of unix users with
> Win95 machines would already have samba installed.  Those who don't
> probably don't know how easy it is to install and get running.

Or their orgs have a problem with not being able to write big checks to
some other corp. In that case, MHSC.COM will be more than happy to give
them a copy, and set it up, and cash the check <grin>.

> > Now while the addition of a samba server seems straight forward, its like
> > adding *another* full package to the system .. ie. not a helper package.
> > Adding samba and the configuration that goes along with it is like setting
> > up another hylafax server ... it has its own problems, compatibility or
> > otherwise and more importantly .. Hylfax would rely heavily on Samba for
> > this particular functionality ... If something changes in Samba .. and breaks
> > HylaFAX then there not much you can do other than change HylaFAX ...
> 
> Then write to the samba mailing list and report it as a bug.  The guys
> who develop samba are not in the business of removing features - they
> keep adding them.  They _will_ respond to a legitimate bug report.

Yep, absolutely!

> >From the above, I'd guess you haven't had a lot to do with samba.
> I'd be more inclined to think that the next release of Windows would be
> more likely to break something than samba.  Where would you be then? No
> source code - no help diagnosing the problem from Microsoft and no
> alternative method of doing the job.

Actually, we are already getting early reports that the Win98 beta is
breaking stuff all over the place. Once yet again they are changing the
Domain login sequence. I guess the Samba Team was getting too close to
figuring it out <grin>. Actually, MS makes some changes to CIFS
everytime they release a new major version of their OS. So far, with the
exception of the Domain login problem (unpublished, proprietary), the
Samba Team has been pretty successful in meeting the challenges.

> > While the other road of making the dll's or wotever talk to hylafax properly
> > is the more difficult solution .. I think its the way to go with this type
> > of problem if it is implemented with HylaFAX...
> 
> Dont rely on Microsoft's API remaining static.  Just have a look at the
> changes file for Speak Freely (for Win95).  The guy who wrote that has
> very little that's good to say about MS being consistent with their C
> library calls.

Since the C v3.4 compiler that MS originally bought from Lattice, every
new version compiler, as well as every new version OS, has required
source file change/recompile in order to keep working. This includes
every version of DOS, Windows, OS/2, WinNT, and Win95. MS keeps changing
things because it works for them. This has always been true. In a sense,
this is true for Unix also, albeit at a lower frequency. Unix changes
for technical reasons and MS changes for marketing whimsey.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:20:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
To: Terry Dwyer 61 8 9491 5161 <tdwyer@io.telstra.com.au>
cc: Anthony Green <ninja@hutch.com.au>, shuvam@spacenetindia.com, 
    flexfax@celestial.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (SAMBA)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Terry Dwyer 61 8 9491 5161 wrote:

> > > Those who have never used Samba will probably have some
> > > hesitation looking at yet another package for the first time. But it's
> > > far more simple than setting up Hylafax, for example. And it seems to
> > > work out of the box for almost all Unix flavours, and provides
> > > unparalleled robustness at the client end.

> This paragraph is accurate.  Samba _is_ easy to setup compared to hylafax 
> and an uncooperative modem.   I am not knocking hylafax in any way, just 
> my modem.

Also note that using SMB to submit HylaFAX jobs doesn't even necessarily
require samba.

SCO makes two commercial products which allow Unix systems to talk
SMB. One, called VisionFS, is bundled into every copy of OpenServer
shipping now. Another product of SCO's called Advanced File and Print
Services, contains MS-licensed code and thus includes support for NT
domains (something samba can't do).

Another SMB-on Unix product that I have worked with is FacetWin.
It's also pretty good, works like samba and has very clear docs.

It's not a stretch to suggest that SMB (through all its implementations)
is replacing NFS (if it hasn't already) as the most-used 
remote-filesystem-mounting protocol on Unix systems.

- Evan

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Leslie Mikesell <les@Mcs.Net>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (*not* on NT, please!)
To: Richard.Kail@imag.fr (Richard Kail)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:43:39 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: evan@telly.org, flexfax@celestial.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> 
> > HylaFAX operation is the antithesis of the NT way of doing things. 
> > Command-line administration, chains of compact tools rather than
> > monolythic programs, no fancy GUIs, documentation in FAQs and manpages --
> > all classic Unix methods. How much work would be required to make this
> > usable in the NT world?
> 
> 	Hm. There is something other... There are fax servers for Windows
> NT, and they are not soooo bad. Why should we produce another one...

How about so people who are used to setting up HylaFAX can continue to
do it the same way when there isn't a suitable unix driver for the
serial port card they want to use, or there are other reasons to be
running NT on the box?

> 	The trick with Hylafax is, that it fits more or less perfectly in
> Unix systems. This is the real value of Hylafax - not the pure
> functionality of the package. If you are using a linux or unix box as a mail 
> server, as a web server or whatever - you get also a fax server.

I'm not sure I understand how unix is unique in this respect.  The HylaFAX
client/server protocol is not exactly like anything else. 

> With a
> port to NT, Hylafax can only loose. The commercial packages are all
> colorfull blinking beasts with dancing wizards and what ever. I think it
> isn't worth to give them a competition...

Having choices is always worthwhile, assuming someone is willing and able
to do the port.  People who run servers understand that flashy interactive
interfaces have nothing to do with the underlying functionality and often
get in the way.

> 	I think, the greatest point and problem of hylafax is the lack of
> good client software for this. I made several attempts to create a windows 
> client - I gave up every time. I also made a little bit reverse
> engeneering of other fax packages for windows - they are hooking in the
> windows printer driver system and do all other jobs by there own. Ok, WHFC
> is a good work and the samba system is a good workaround - but both of
> them have their specific problems.

Your earlier point about 'fitting' into a system indicates that you should
make use of the best existing techniques to get the job done.  Samba does
a good job of delivering postscript from a windows printer driver to
the server.  The missing piece is an interactive dialog box that is
_controlled_by_the_server_.  This is something that could be used in many
more applications and would complete the circle for HylaFax.  Respond
does it well enough to work for HylaFax, but what we really need is
an HTML forms interpreter (or some reasonable subset) that could be
poped up on demand by the remote server.  This could be used by any
server-based application that needed fill-in-the-form response(s) from
a user.

Les Mikesell
  les@mcs.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
X-Authentication-Warning: rafale.imag.fr: rkail owned process doing -bs
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:11:52 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Richard Kail <Richard.Kail@imag.fr>
To: Leslie Mikesell <les@Mcs.Net>
cc: Richard Kail <Richard.Kail@imag.fr>, evan@telly.org, flexfax@celestial.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (*not* on NT, please!)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello !

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Leslie Mikesell wrote:

> Your earlier point about 'fitting' into a system indicates that you should
> make use of the best existing techniques to get the job done.  Samba does
> a good job of delivering postscript from a windows printer driver to
> the server.  The missing piece is an interactive dialog box that is
> _controlled_by_the_server_.  This is something that could be used in many
> more applications and would complete the circle for HylaFax.  Respond
> does it well enough to work for HylaFax, but what we really need is
> an HTML forms interpreter (or some reasonable subset) that could be
> poped up on demand by the remote server.  This could be used by any
> server-based application that needed fill-in-the-form response(s) from
> a user.

	I feel, that the solution with samba may be work, but its not a
very clean, nice solution. Why you may ask. I don't feel very comfortable
with ps documents travelling in the network with the intention to send
them as a fax without having an faxnumber attached to them. The risk to
produce a mess with them is waiting in the corner.

	This approach may work without any problem with one User sending
one or maybe ten faxes per day. If you have 50 Users a 10 Faxes per day
you may get problems.

	Hylafax is a complex technical system. Samba is also a complex
technical system. If you join two technical systems together in the way 
you do it with hylafax and samba the availability of the system drop 
rapidly.

Kind regards.
	Richard

-----
Richard Kail
c/o
Laboratoire TIMC IMAG
Universite Joseph Fourier
Grenoble

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: Richard Kail <Richard.Kail@imag.fr>
cc: flexfax@celestial.com
Reply-to: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
From: Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (*not* on NT, please!) 
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:36:40 +0530
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

| 	I feel, that the solution with samba may be work, but its not a
| very clean, nice solution. Why you may ask. I don't feel very comfortable
| with ps documents travelling in the network with the intention to send
| them as a fax without having an faxnumber attached to them. The risk to
| produce a mess with them is waiting in the corner.
| 
| 	This approach may work without any problem with one User sending
| one or maybe ten faxes per day. If you have 50 Users a 10 Faxes per day
| you may get problems.

I am somehow not sure this is really a serious matter. When we examine
the route taken by one fax message from a PC via Samba to Hylafax, we
find that a new process is fired on the Unix end to handle each new
connection. Therefore, there's really very little programming
complexity. Each printer handler process on the Samba server side just
handles one connection, connects to the Respond program on one PC, gets
the destination fax number, pushes the job out to Hylafax, and
terminates. There is absolutely no congestion or complexity till this
point.

There might be a hundred users on a hundred different PCs, but each user
will only send one fax out from his PC at a time. This is because the
PC software behaviour is essentially interactive. You don't have daemons
running on a Windows PC sending out faxes in parallel, in the background,
without the user's knowledge. Therefore, the user, who is essentially in
single-tasking mode, will send one fax, get one popup dialog box, enter
one fax number, and hit "OK". I don't see any cause for confusion at all.

The real parallelism and big-queue management is all happening within
Hylafax. And there are testimonials that Hylafax can handle thousands of
faxes going out per day. I don't think your figures of 50 users at 10
faxes will stress this system at all.

If you think this scenario of one Samba+Hylafax server handling hundreds
of incoming faxes is complex, then imagine how a proxy Webserver handles
thousands of outgoing requests from different PCs, to different Websites,
using different protocols, all in parallel. As long as one process is
handling just one connection, the Unix style of operation can take it.

Just my two bits.

Regards,
Shuvam

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Leslie Mikesell <les@Mcs.Net>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future (*not* on NT, please!)
To: Richard.Kail@imag.fr (Richard Kail)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:05:28 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: les@Mcs.Net, Richard.Kail@imag.fr, evan@telly.org, flexfax@celestial.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> > Your earlier point about 'fitting' into a system indicates that you should
> > make use of the best existing techniques to get the job done.  Samba does
> > a good job of delivering postscript from a windows printer driver to
> > the server.  The missing piece is an interactive dialog box that is
> > _controlled_by_the_server_.  This is something that could be used in many
> > more applications and would complete the circle for HylaFax.  Respond
> > does it well enough to work for HylaFax, but what we really need is
> > an HTML forms interpreter (or some reasonable subset) that could be
> > poped up on demand by the remote server.  This could be used by any
> > server-based application that needed fill-in-the-form response(s) from
> > a user.
> 
> 	I feel, that the solution with samba may be work, but its not a
> very clean, nice solution. Why you may ask. I don't feel very comfortable
> with ps documents travelling in the network with the intention to send
> them as a fax without having an faxnumber attached to them. The risk to
> produce a mess with them is waiting in the corner.

This might be the case with the existing 'respond' program because it
is a one-way transmission.  What I'd like to see is an interactive
forms interpreter on the PC side so there would be a way to return
error messages (or success confirmation/job ids) from the unix-side
submission back to the sender.  Once the submission is complete
any later errors should be handled by email anyway.

> 	This approach may work without any problem with one User sending
> one or maybe ten faxes per day. If you have 50 Users a 10 Faxes per day
> you may get problems.

I've handled about that level with the older winflex client (actually
a newer version of the old winflex client that used to be at
morningstar.com and now seems to be living at
ftp://ftp.progressive-systems.com/pub/unsupported/windows/.  But, it
is more trouble than samba and not good for anything else.

> 	Hylafax is a complex technical system. Samba is also a complex
> technical system. If you join two technical systems together in the way 
> you do it with hylafax and samba the availability of the system drop 
> rapidly.

I don't agree with this.  If samba and hylafax are properly configured
they are both extremely reliable and you should have no new mysterious
failures by combining them, especially if your user namespace is
integrated so the server can email error notifications correctly.
What's more, there is no reason to think that a windows-printer-driver
solution would be any less complex or more reliable.  The only
missing piece is a handy way for the server to initiate an interactive
session that can persist through actual job submission.

Les Mikesell
  les@mcs.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: "Christopher P. Lindsey" <lindsey@mallorn.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future
To: david@djwhome.demon.co.uk (David Woolley)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:27:14 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: webmaster@transcom.de, flexfax@celestial.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> > using this free package.  Maybe it will be of use to you or anyone else
>              ^^^^
> > doing a port of HylaFax:
> > 
> >      Porting Tool: GNU-WIN32 Version 18.1 Linux to Windows NT/95
> 
> It's going commercial.  The compilers and shells can't go commercial, but
> the supporting DLL can and will.

I've talked with Geoffrey Noer, the guy in charge of the current project.
He says that as far as he knows, Cygnus will continue to put it out under
GPL for the forseeable future.

> The writeup quoted was also misleading - it has nothing to do with Linux;
> it is a DLL replacing the Unix system call libraries, together with 
> a collection of pre-ported tools, including gcc and bash.

Yes, that's true.  I grabbed it from comp.os.linux.announce, so it was
Linux oriented.

Chris

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Hylafax future
To: lindsey@mallorn.com (Christopher P. Lindsey)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:52:40 +0100 (BST)
Cc: webmaster@transcom.de, flexfax@celestial.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> 
[ Cygnus Unix emulator DLL ]

> I've talked with Geoffrey Noer, the guy in charge of the current project.
> He says that as far as he knows, Cygnus will continue to put it out under
> GPL for the forseeable future.

That's interesting, because I've seen reports in two different places that
the DLL is going commercial.  Either the rumour mill has been at work, or
someone was testing whether they could get away with doing that.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de
Subject: flexfax: Re: modified WinFlex (Morningstar) location has changed
To: suwelack@self.de (Lutz Birkhahn)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:06:57 +0200 (MSZ)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com, guru@thias.muc.de
>From: guru@sisis.de (Matthias Apitz)
Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de (Matthias Apitz)
X-FAX-cover: faxcover-sisis.ps
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Lutz Birkhahn wrote:
    
    Hi!
    
    Perhaps it would be fine if you could include the new ftp locations
    of the modified WinFlex files (from Laine Stump, formerly Morningstar)
    in the next FAQ release (see Q132):
    
       ftp://ftp.Progressive-Systems.com/pub/tools/windows/winflex.zip
       ftp://ftp.Progressive-Systems.com/pub/tools/windows/winflexa4.zip
       ftp://ftp.Progressive-Systems.com/pub/tools/windows/winflex-src.zip
    
    Thanks,

Thanks for the hint. I've updated the online FAQ at www.vix.com
and will also change my RCS repository.

	matthias

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:29:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steven E. Frazier" <sfrazier@manatee.futurenet.net>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Help with send page
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I am getting
sendpage: Can not reach server at localhost port 444

Here is my services and inetd.conf file:

#services
hylafax	4559/tcp		# HylaFAX client-server protocol
snpp	444/tcp			# Simple Network Paging Protocol

# inetd.conf
hylafax	stream	tcp	nowait	fax	/usr/local/sbin/hfaxd	hfaxd -I -d


Here is my pagermap file:
#
steve	83,18007208398/\0861562/
stevenex	83,6166683/\5136160010/
curt	83,3434226


I am trying to do sendpage -p This is a test page

Can anyone tell me what I am missing here?

Thanks.

Steve

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:56:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: "Steven E. Frazier" <sfrazier@manatee.futurenet.net>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Help with send page
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, Steven E. Frazier wrote:

> I am getting
> sendpage: Can not reach server at localhost port 444

Try running "faxstat -v" as a test. Using inetd.conf is no longer
recommended for running hfaxd, it's better to use the "etc/hylafax"
script from the source or your binaries. 

			Nico Garcia
			Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de
Subject: Re: flexfax: Help with send page
To: sfrazier@manatee.futurenet.net (Steven E. Frazier)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:29:56 +0200 (MSZ)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
>From: guru@sisis.de (Matthias Apitz)
Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de (Matthias Apitz)
X-FAX-cover: faxcover-sisis.ps
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Steven E. Frazier wrote:
    
    I am getting
    sendpage: Can not reach server at localhost port 444
    
    Here is my services and inetd.conf file:
    
    #services
    hylafax	4559/tcp		# HylaFAX client-server protocol
    snpp	444/tcp			# Simple Network Paging Protocol
    
    # inetd.conf
    hylafax	stream	tcp	nowait	fax	/usr/local/sbin/hfaxd	hfaxd -I -d
    
The above line tells inetd(1M) to LISTEN on port 4559.
Which proc LISTENs on port 444 (perhaps none)?

	matthias
    
    Here is my pagermap file:
    #
    steve	83,18007208398/\0861562/
    stevenex	83,6166683/\5136160010/
    curt	83,3434226
    
    
    I am trying to do sendpage -p This is a test page
    
    Can anyone tell me what I am missing here?
    
    Thanks.
    
    Steve

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:54:26 -0400
From: Ramana Juvvadi <juvvadi@lekha.org>
To: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Steven E. Frazier" <sfrazier@manatee.futurenet.net>, flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Help with send page
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


 > Try running "faxstat -v" as a test. Using inetd.conf is no longer
 > recommended for running hfaxd, it's better to use the "etc/hylafax"
 > script from the source or your binaries. 

Can somebody tell me what are the pros and cons of running hfaxd
using inetd.conf. 

Ramana

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:51:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Ramana Juvvadi <juvvadi@lekha.org>
Cc: Nico Garcia <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Help with send page
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Ramana Juvvadi wrote:

>  > Try running "faxstat -v" as a test. Using inetd.conf is no longer
>  > recommended for running hfaxd, it's better to use the "etc/hylafax"
>  > script from the source or your binaries. 
> 
> Can somebody tell me what are the pros and cons of running hfaxd
> using inetd.conf. 

Well, Sam Leffler, who wrote it, recommended against using inetd.conf.
It took considerable difficulty to get it to work correctly under
SunOS as I remember. Using the etc/hylafax script permits easy and
graceful starting or stopping at boot and shutdown or when going to
single user mode, especially with the SysV style init script
structures of Linux and similar systems.


			Nico Garcia
			Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de
Subject: Re: flexfax: Help with send page
To: juvvadi@lekha.org (Ramana Juvvadi)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:21:10 +0200 (MSZ)
Cc: raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu, sfrazier@manatee.futurenet.net,
        flexfax@sgi.com
>From: guru@sisis.de (Matthias Apitz)
Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de (Matthias Apitz)
X-FAX-cover: faxcover-sisis.ps
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Ramana Juvvadi wrote:
    
    
     > Try running "faxstat -v" as a test. Using inetd.conf is no longer
     > recommended for running hfaxd, it's better to use the "etc/hylafax"
     > script from the source or your binaries. 
    
    Can somebody tell me what are the pros and cons of running hfaxd
    using inetd.conf. 

You may or may not use inetd(1M) to boot-up hfaxd(1M) for
connects on the ports supported by HylaFAX; both methods
should work fine if you use the appropriate options for hfaxd(1M)
(see the man page for details);

for heavy used systems it's better to run hfaxd(1M) standalone
and let hfaxd(1M) directly LISTEN on the ports; the pro for this
is that inetd(1M) doesn't have to boot a new hfaxd(1M) from
the disk for each incoming client connect;

	matthias

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:13:24 +0200
From: Stefan Schober <stenny@troja.stuttgart.netsurf.de>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Cc: Matthias Apitz <Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Re:  Umlaute in HylaFAX
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

	Hi Matthias,
	
On Tue, Sep 09, 1997 at 10:33:43PM +0200, Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de wrote:

> Is it a good idea to discuss this topic in German language
> in this mailing-list?

well, I have to apologize for that, sorry ...
I replied to a message I received by personal mail and thought it
could be a good idea, to let others know, how to solve this problem. I
replied in german language, because it was the language the first
message was written in.

Sorry, I promise to not do this again ... :-)

	stefan

But, to reach the goal of my first letter, I try to translate the
discussion. The question was, how to send faxes converted from
(ASCII-) text files including german umlaut characters. The original
textfmt-program, as shipped with hylafax, fails on that.

The answer to this problem is the usage of 'a2ps' instead of
'textfmt'. I by myself replaced every occurance of 'textfmt' in the
'typerulesfile' by a call to 'a2ps' in the following manner:


0       string          #Inventor V	error	IRIS Inventor file 
>15     string          binary		error	binary IRIS Inventor file
>15     string          ascii		ps	a2ps -nc -nP -r -8 -1 -F10.0\
									-B -p  >%o <%i
#
# This causes anything else with ascii-only data to be treated as text.
#
0	ascii		x		ps	a2ps -nc -nP -r -8 -1 -F10.0\
							-B -p  >%o <%i
The 'a2ps' program e.g. is included in the 'apsfilter' package, which
should be part of the major Linux-distributions and such can be found
on ftp-servers carrying Linux-software.

	stefan
	
-- 
	Stefan Schober, Pforzheim/Germany
		reach me at stenny@troja.stuttgart.netsurf.de

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:48:41 +0200
Reply-To: ojaeger@berlin.snafu.de
Organization: PSI AG, Berlin
From: Olaf Jaeger <ojaeger@ul.psi.de>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: mailfax - problems
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi folks,

Im using hylafax 4.01 with linux 2.0.29, a creatix 33.6 modem and the
whfc frontend for Windows95 and NT. That configuration works without any
problems.

Currently Im setting up a mail-to-fax gateway with mailfax. After
installing everything as described, even that works pretty good :-)

My problems began when I tried to mail a ready to print postscript file.
Sending the file in the message body didnt work because mailfax
interpreted the postscript statements as plain text and surrounded it
with some additional postscript statements. That results in receiving a
bunch of postscript statements in the fax.

Afterwards I send the postscript file as an MIME attachment with
document type "postscript". That worked better as the file was treated
correctly by faxmail. But when it was send to the faxmodem one error
occurs in /var/log/message and /var/spool/fax&etc/xferlog:

 "modem does not support document page width, max pagewidth 2432 pixels,
  max image width 1686 pixels."

The faxstat reports "busy signal detected".

The same document generated by mailfax (from the docq directory) direcly
sent to a printer worked fine. 

Any idea what is wrong with the modem ?



Thanks Olaf

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:26:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rob Newberry <rob@eats.com>
To: John Conover <john@johncon.johncon.com>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Cardinal modems?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> Anyone using a Cardinal modem with Hylafax?

Yes.

But I guess you'd like to know a little more than that, eh? :-)

I'm using a 28.8 external modem from Cardinal, hooked up to a Linux box.
The Cardinal modem has voice capabilities, and I have a funky
configuration file that deals with distinctive ring, since I used to be
working on a voice mail plug-in for HylaFAX, but haven't had time to work
on it in over a year.

In any case, my Cardinal worked fine using the standard Rockwell RC32ACL
(the one for Boca M1440E and SupraFAX v.32bis).  The main thing that I
remember could break, and it broke with MOST Rockwell modems, is the modem
rate -- seems that these Rockwell's can't do Class 2 FAX above 19200, so
you need the line "ModemRate:	19200" in your config.x file.  I don't
know about the new ones.

I would be happy to send my config file, but as I said, it's VERY messed
up to support adaptive answer stuff, and that junk probably won't make a
lot of sense to you.

Rob

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:33:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rob Newberry <rob@eats.com>
To: Christopher Arauz Valenzuela <chris@sasa.com.ni>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Fax and voice over the same line....
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


> 	Im using Hylafax v4.01p1  on BSD/OS 2.1 ( BSDI), and I want to 
> use a voice phone, but I just have one line. Can I use the Hylafax in 
> this way?

Here's my experience using it this way; I'm sure others have done things
differently.

Here in the states, we have a technology called "distinctive ring" (called
by other names at different telcos -- Bell Atlantic calls it
"Identaring").  This technology allows you to set up a new phone number
that runs on the SAME PHONE LINE, but rings with a DIFFERENT RING.  If you
get a modem that supports this, and configure HylaFAX appropriately, you
can use HylaFAX for FAX/data dial-in/dial-out, and still have voice calls
on your voice line -- although not at the same time.  (That is, if you're
sending a FAX, and someone calls you to talk about something, they'll get
a busy signal).

I use HylaFAX this way, in combination with Bell Atlantic's voice mail
service, and it works nicely.  At one point, I was working on adding voice
mail capabilities to HylaFAX, but when I realized that the telco's system
would allow me to deal with busy phone lines (i.e., when the line is busy,
the caller gets sent to voice mail, instead of a busy signal), I decided
that was better.

As I said, this is in the states -- I don't know where ".ni" is, but you
may have similar options available from your telco.

Rob

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: "Gary Ng (Winclient)" <garyn@winclient.com>
To: flexfax@sgi.com, "'rwk@americom.com'" <rwk@americom.com>
Subject: RE: flexfax: 56k X2 modems
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:51:04 +0800
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Their class 1 has no problem to send so far but did
have problem receieve at 9600 from some fax machine
or fax software. Their class 2.0 is more troublesome.
I would advice class 1.

Gary

> ----------
> From: 	rwk@americom.com[SMTP:rwk@americom.com]
> Sent: 	Thursday, September 11, 1997 3:22 AM
> To: 	flexfax@sgi.com
> Subject: 	flexfax: 56k X2 modems
> 
> Can anyone attest to the compatibility of US Robotic's 56k X2 modems
> with Hylafax?  They claim to be class 2.0 compatible.
> 
> Please reply to: rwk@AmeriCom.com
> 
> Thanks,
> Dick
> 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:32:31 -0700
From: jamwal <jamwal@QUALITY.COM>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Hylafax - multiple modems
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,
I've Hylafax version 3 installed and configured on AIX3.25.
I have 3 modems configured for use by Hylafax server.
I start the hylafax server as:

============================================================
faxq -m tty1 tty2 tty3
or
faxq -mtty1 -mtty2 -mtt3
============================================================

but neither of the above options enable the hylafax server to
do loadbalancing. In other words, the hylafax server
processes all the queued up jobs in sequence, one
job at a time.

===========================================================
faxstat -a
Server on localhost:FIFO for all modems: Running.

Job  Modem Destination     Time-To-Send     Sender         Status
6659 any   +14152292666 09:35 1997/08/28 Jobs        Processing...
6661 any   +14152470627 09:34 1997/08/28 Jobs        Queued...
6662 any   +14153815050 09:33 1997/08/28 Jobs        Queued...
6663 any   +14156899132 09:31 1997/08/28 Jobs        Queued...
6664 any   +14158830098 09:32 1997/08/28 Jobs        Queued...
6665 any   +14154373654 10:31 1997/08/28 Jobs        Queued...
6666 any   +14153211347 11:30 1997/08/28 Jobs        Queued...
==============================================================

Is there a way to make the Hylafax server multitask? In other words,
what can I do to get the queued jobs processed by other available
modems? Right now, all the jobs get processed by tty3 while
tty1 and tty2 are idle.

Thanks in advance.

Arun.
Email: jamwal@quality.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: "Gary Ng (Winclient)" <garyn@winclient.com>
To: flexfax@sgi.com, "'John Conover'" <john@johncon.johncon.com>
Subject: RE: flexfax: Cardinal modems?
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:51:42 +0800
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

As far as I know, Cardinal's class 1 is buggy but
Class 2 should be ok.

Gary

> ----------
> From: 	John Conover[SMTP:john@johncon.johncon.com]
> Sent: 	Thursday, September 11, 1997 4:33 AM
> To: 	flexfax@sgi.com
> Subject: 	flexfax: Cardinal modems?
> 
> Anyone using a Cardinal modem with Hylafax?
> 
> 	Thanks,
> 
> 	John
> 	
> -- 
> 
> John Conover, 631 Lamont Ct., Campbell, CA., 95008, USA.
> VOX 408.370.2688, FAX 408.379.9602
> john@johncon.com
> 

From shuvam@spacenetindia.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date:    Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:20:36 +0530
From:    Shuvam Misra <shuvam@spacenetindia.com>
To:      flexfax@sgi.com
cc:      Geetanjali <geta@sdnhq.undp.org>
Subject: Hylafax will not answer incoming calls

Hi everyone,

I have been using Hylafax for a couple of years now, and have set it up
on various machines, all of them Linux boxes and ZyXEL modems. The latest
install I did yesterday gave me an error I've never seen before.

My hardware is Intel 486DX4 with 16MB, running Linux 2.0.27 from
Slackware 3.1.0. I'm using Hylafax 4.0pl0 binary distribution which I
got from ftp.sgi.com. My modem is ZyXEL O288S (the Omni) with firmware
1.18. I'm running faxgetty from inittab, since I want to handle incoming
and outgoing faxes.

I've tested the modem with kermit. I've made outgoing calls, and also
done an "ATZ" followed by "ATE0Q1S0=2" and received an incoming data
call. The caller dialled in, the modem answered at 28.8kbps after two
rings, and we chatted for half an hour. No flakiness anywhere.

I tried sending out faxes using "sendfax". They went out perfectly. (My
favourite test images are golfer.ps and tiger.ps from the GS
distribution.) Even details like the time and the LocalID string on top
of the page were perfect.

But when I dial into the modem, Hylafax doesn't answer. I switched on
SessionTracing and ServerTracing to level 33037, and this fragment is
what I got in the log:

       			[... init complete ...]

       17:01:45 rose FaxQueuer[128]: MODEM faxmodem: READY, capabilities P3fd7e
7ff:ff
       17:01:45 rose FaxGetty[1857]: STATE CHANGE: LISTENING -> RUNNING
       17:01:45 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM input buffering disabled
       17:01:46 rose FaxGetty[1857]: STATE CHANGE: RUNNING -> LISTENING
       17:01:46 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM input buffering enabled
       17:01:46 rose FaxQueuer[128]: MODEM faxmodem: BUSY
       17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM TIMEOUT: reading line from modem
       17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
       17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
       17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR OFF
       17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR OFF
       17:01:54 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR ON

       			[... init cycle restarted ...]

I had set the modem to answer after 2 rings. Each time, it would wait
for two rings, then give this message changing state from RUNNING to
LISTENING, then it would report MODEM TIMEOUT, then give the ATH0
command, and go into the reinitialisation cycle. If kept the calling
line on, this cycle would continue:

	1.	pause for two rings
	2.	report MODEM TIMEOUT
	3.	reinitialise the modem
	4.	pause for two more rings...

	ad nauseum.

Funnily, I use Linux 1.2.13 with an O288S firmware 1.13 at home. And
Hylafax 4.0pl0 works just fine. Is there something which changed when
Linux moved from 1.xx to 2.xx? Or is there something which broke when
the modem moved from 1.13 to 1.18 firmware?

I remember reading something somewhere that with Linux 2.0, the kernel
now implements some I/O system calls differently, to make them conform
more closely with new standards. And apparently, the note said, one of
the apps which need modifications is Hylafax. I'd assumed that the new
Hylafax binaries would take care of these changes. Will anyone please
tell me whether my problem is due to these changes? Has anyone faced
these problems at all?

Is this an FAQ? I'm still searching through the list of questions, but
nothing seems to match.

Shuvam
== log fragment, showing cycling of initialisations and errors =========

Jul 18 17:01:45 rose FaxQueuer[128]: MODEM faxmodem: READY, capabilities P3fd7e
7ff:ff
Jul 18 17:01:45 rose FaxGetty[1857]: STATE CHANGE: LISTENING -> RUNNING
Jul 18 17:01:45 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM input buffering disabled
Jul 18 17:01:46 rose FaxGetty[1857]: STATE CHANGE: RUNNING -> LISTENING
Jul 18 17:01:46 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM input buffering enabled
Jul 18 17:01:46 rose FaxQueuer[128]: MODEM faxmodem: BUSY
Jul 18 17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM TIMEOUT: reading line from modem
Jul 18 17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Jul 18 17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Jul 18 17:01:51 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Jul 18 17:01:54 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR ON
Jul 18 17:01:54 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set baud rate: 38400 baud, input flo
w RTS/CTS, output flow RTS/CTS
Jul 18 17:01:54 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM flush i/o
Jul 18 17:01:54 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [39:AT&B1&N0&S0*F0S18=4S38.3=1E0V1Q0S0
=0H0\r]
Jul 18 17:01:54 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:54 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&H3&D2&C1\r]
Jul 18 17:01:54 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:54 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=?\r]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [15:0,1,2,2.0,6,8,Z]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [14:AT+FCLASS=2.0\r]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [8:AT+FMI?\r]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [5:ZyXEL]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [8:AT+FMM?\r]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [18:O288S  V 1.18     ]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [8:AT+FMR?\r]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [18:O288S  V 1.18     ]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FCC=?\r]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [43:(0,1),(0-5),(0-2),(0-2),(0,1),(0),
(0),(0-7)]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FCQ=?\r]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [11:(0-2),(0-2)]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FAP=?\r]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [5:ERROR]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FSP=?\r]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [3:0,1]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:55 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [14:AT+FCLASS=2.0\r]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FLO=2\r]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FPP=0\r]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FBO=0\r]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [10:AT+FCT=30\r]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [15:AT+FNR=1,1,1,1\r]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FIE=0\r]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [23:AT+FCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM ZYXEL O288S/V 1.18
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [5:ATM0\r]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:56 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FCR=1\r]
Jul 18 17:01:57 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:57 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [24:AT+FLI="Ramon and Demm"\r]
Jul 18 17:01:57 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:57 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FAA=1\r]
Jul 18 17:01:57 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:01:57 rose FaxQueuer[128]: MODEM faxmodem: READY, capabilities P3fd7e
7ff:ff
Jul 18 17:01:57 rose FaxGetty[1857]: STATE CHANGE: LISTENING -> RUNNING
Jul 18 17:01:57 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM input buffering disabled
Jul 18 17:01:58 rose FaxGetty[1857]: STATE CHANGE: RUNNING -> LISTENING
Jul 18 17:01:58 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM input buffering enabled
Jul 18 17:01:58 rose FaxQueuer[128]: MODEM faxmodem: BUSY
Jul 18 17:02:03 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM TIMEOUT: reading line from modem
Jul 18 17:02:03 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:04 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:04 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Jul 18 17:02:04 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Jul 18 17:02:06 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR ON
Jul 18 17:02:06 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set baud rate: 38400 baud, input flo
w RTS/CTS, output flow RTS/CTS
Jul 18 17:02:06 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM flush i/o
Jul 18 17:02:06 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [39:AT&B1&N0&S0*F0S18=4S38.3=1E0V1Q0S0
=0H0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:06 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:06 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&H3&D2&C1\r]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=?\r]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [15:0,1,2,2.0,6,8,Z]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [14:AT+FCLASS=2.0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [8:AT+FMI?\r]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [5:ZyXEL]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [8:AT+FMM?\r]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [18:O288S  V 1.18     ]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [8:AT+FMR?\r]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [18:O288S  V 1.18     ]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FCC=?\r]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [43:(0,1),(0-5),(0-2),(0-2),(0,1),(0),
(0),(0-7)]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FCQ=?\r]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [11:(0-2),(0-2)]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FAP=?\r]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [5:ERROR]
Jul 18 17:02:07 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FSP=?\r]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [3:0,1]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [14:AT+FCLASS=2.0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FLO=2\r]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FPP=0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FBO=0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [10:AT+FCT=30\r]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [15:AT+FNR=1,1,1,1\r]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FIE=0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [23:AT+FCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM ZYXEL O288S/V 1.18
Jul 18 17:02:08 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [5:ATM0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FCR=1\r]
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [24:AT+FLI="Ramon and Demm"\r]
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [9:AT+FAA=1\r]
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxQueuer[128]: MODEM faxmodem: READY, capabilities P3fd7e
7ff:ff
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxGetty[1857]: STATE CHANGE: LISTENING -> RUNNING
Jul 18 17:02:09 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM input buffering disabled
Jul 18 17:02:10 rose FaxGetty[1857]: STATE CHANGE: RUNNING -> LISTENING
Jul 18 17:02:10 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM input buffering enabled
Jul 18 17:02:10 rose FaxQueuer[128]: MODEM faxmodem: BUSY
Jul 18 17:02:15 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM TIMEOUT: reading line from modem
Jul 18 17:02:15 rose FaxGetty[1857]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Jul 18 17:02:16 rose FaxGetty[1857]: --> [2:OK]
Jul 18 17:02:16 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Jul 18 17:02:16 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Jul 18 17:02:18 rose FaxGetty[1857]: MODEM set DTR ON


------- End of Forwarded Message

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: anton@nmr.ru
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:13:02 +0400
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: SEND recv RTN (retrain negative)
X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Dear Hylafaxers,

I'm running a ZyXEL 1496E with 6.17 firmware and HylaFAX 4.0p1 binary distrubution
on an Ultra1 Sun workstation. Configuration files are standart
(taken from distribution)

It seems to be a common problem with ZyXEL 1496E/HylaFAX 4.0p1 combination

When sending fax to an fax machine I'm repeatedly getting a 
SEND recv RTN (retrain negative) message in logs like this:
(It's funny but I don't have this problem if sending faxes to an OLD fax machine :))

Sorry for such big log... I just don't know if modem initialization is matters...

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sep 12 12:27:07.20: [24491]: SESSION BEGIN 00007567 81788030839
Sep 12 12:27:07.20: [24491]: SEND FAX: JOB 3 DEST +81788030839 COMMID 00007567
Sep 12 12:27:07.20: [24491]: DELAY 2600 ms
Sep 12 12:27:10.81: [24491]: <-- [44:AT&B1&N0&S0*F0S18=2S38.3=1S39=0E0V1Q0S0=0H0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.06: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.06: [24491]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&H3&D2&C1\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.08: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.08: [24491]: <-- [14:AT+FCLASS=2.0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.24: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.24: [24491]: <-- [9:AT+FLO=2\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.25: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.25: [24491]: <-- [9:AT+FPP=0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.26: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.26: [24491]: <-- [9:AT+FBO=0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.27: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.27: [24491]: <-- [10:AT+FCT=30\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.28: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.28: [24491]: <-- [15:AT+FNR=1,1,1,1\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.29: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.29: [24491]: <-- [9:AT+FIE=0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.30: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.30: [24491]: <-- [23:AT+FCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.32: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.32: [24491]: <-- [7:ATM1L3\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.33: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.36: [24491]: <-- [14:AT+FCLASS=2.0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.62: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.62: [24491]: <-- [9:AT+FLO=2\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.73: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.73: [24491]: <-- [9:AT+FPP=0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.84: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.84: [24491]: <-- [9:AT+FBO=0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:11.95: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:11.95: [24491]: <-- [10:AT+FCT=30\r]
Sep 12 12:27:12.06: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:12.06: [24491]: <-- [15:AT+FNR=1,1,1,1\r]
Sep 12 12:27:12.17: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:12.17: [24491]: <-- [9:AT+FIE=0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:12.28: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:12.28: [24491]: <-- [23:AT+FCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Sep 12 12:27:12.40: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:12.40: [24491]: <-- [24:AT+FLI="+7-095-3355033"\r]
Sep 12 12:27:12.52: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:27:12.54: [24491]: DIAL 8W1081788030839
Sep 12 12:27:12.54: [24491]: <-- [20:ATDP8W1081788030839\r]
Sep 12 12:28:13.66: [24491]: --> [4:+FCO]
Sep 12 12:28:13.66: [24491]: --> [96:+FNF:00 00 45 D7 44 65 70 74 2E 20 6F 66 20 43 68 65 6D 2E 20 4B 89 00 00 00 00 00 42 3C 99 00  ]
Sep 12 12:28:13.66: [24491]: REMOTE NSF "00 00 45 D7 44 65 70 74 2E 20 6F 66 20 43 68 65 6D 2E 20 4B 89 00 00 00 00 00 42 3C 99 00"
Sep 12 12:28:13.66: [24491]: --> [26:+FCI:     +81 78 803 0839 ]
Sep 12 12:28:13.66: [24491]: REMOTE CSI "+81 78 803 0839"
Sep 12 12:28:13.78: [24491]: --> [20:+FIS:1,3,0,2,1,1,0,4]
Sep 12 12:28:13.78: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:28:13.78: [24491]: REMOTE best rate 9600 bit/s
Sep 12 12:28:13.78: [24491]: REMOTE max page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm
Sep 12 12:28:13.78: [24491]: REMOTE max unlimited page length 
Sep 12 12:28:13.78: [24491]: REMOTE best vres 7.7 line/mm
Sep 12 12:28:13.78: [24491]: REMOTE best format 2-D MR
Sep 12 12:28:13.78: [24491]: REMOTE supports T.30 Annex A, ECM
Sep 12 12:28:13.78: [24491]: REMOTE best 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Sep 12 12:28:13.79: [24491]: USE 9600 bit/s
Sep 12 12:28:13.79: [24491]: USE 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Sep 12 12:28:13.79: [24491]: SEND file "docq/doc32.tif;30"
Sep 12 12:28:13.86: [24491]: USE page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm
Sep 12 12:28:13.86: [24491]: USE unlimited page length 
Sep 12 12:28:13.86: [24491]: USE 3.85 line/mm
Sep 12 12:28:13.86: [24491]: USE 1-D MR
Sep 12 12:28:13.86: [24491]: <-- [23:AT+FIS=0,3,0,2,0,0,0,4\r]
Sep 12 12:28:13.97: [24491]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 12 12:28:13.97: [24491]: <-- [7:AT+FDT\r]
Sep 12 12:28:20.78: [24491]: --> [20:+FCS:0,3,0,2,0,0,0,5]
Sep 12 12:28:20.78: [24491]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Sep 12 12:28:20.78: [24491]: SEND begin page
Sep 12 12:28:20.81: [24491]: <-- data [1033]
Sep 12 12:28:20.81: [24491]: <-- data [1024]
Sep 12 12:28:20.81: [24491]: <-- data [1027]
Sep 12 12:28:20.81: [24491]: <-- data [1026]
Sep 12 12:28:20.81: [24491]: <-- data [1027]
Sep 12 12:28:21.35: [24491]: <-- data [1025]
Sep 12 12:28:21.35: [24491]: <-- data [1028]
Sep 12 12:28:21.88: [24491]: <-- data [1029]
Sep 12 12:28:21.88: [24491]: <-- data [1028]
Sep 12 12:28:26.64: [24491]: <-- data [1029]
Sep 12 12:28:26.64: [24491]: <-- data [1028]
Sep 12 12:28:30.73: [24491]: <-- data [1028]
Sep 12 12:28:30.73: [24491]: <-- data [1027]
Sep 12 12:28:33.54: [24491]: <-- data [980]
Sep 12 12:28:33.54: [24491]: SENT 14290 bytes of data
Sep 12 12:28:33.54: [24491]: SEND 1D RTC
Sep 12 12:28:33.54: [24491]: <-- data [9]
Sep 12 12:28:36.69: [24491]: SEND end page
Sep 12 12:28:36.69: [24491]: SEND send EOP (no more pages or documents)
Sep 12 12:28:36.69: [24491]: <-- data [2]
Sep 12 12:28:51.30: [24491]: --> [5:ERROR]
Sep 12 12:28:51.30: [24491]: SEND recv RTN (retrain negative)
Sep 12 12:28:51.30: [24491]: <-- [7:AT+FDT\r]
Sep 12 12:28:58.08: [24491]: --> [20:+FCS:0,3,0,2,0,0,0,5]
Sep 12 12:28:58.08: [24491]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Sep 12 12:28:58.08: [24491]: SEND begin page

<2 retryes skipped>

Sep 12 12:29:51.29: [24491]: SEND end page
Sep 12 12:29:51.29: [24491]: SEND send EOP (no more pages or documents)
Sep 12 12:29:51.29: [24491]: <-- data [2]
Sep 12 12:30:05.90: [24491]: --> [5:ERROR]
Sep 12 12:30:05.90: [24491]: SEND recv RTN (retrain negative)
Sep 12 12:30:05.90: [24491]: <-- [7:AT+FKS\r]
Sep 12 12:30:07.38: [24491]: --> [7:+FHS:02]
Sep 12 12:30:07.38: [24491]: REMOTE HANGUP: Call aborted,  from +FK or <CAN> (code 2)
Sep 12 12:30:07.38: [24491]: --> [5:ERROR]
Sep 12 12:30:07.38: [24491]: MODEM Command error
Sep 12 12:30:07.38: [24491]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Sep 12 12:30:07.82: [24491]: --> [10:NO CARRIER]
Sep 12 12:30:07.82: [24491]: MODEM No carrier
Sep 12 12:30:07.82: [24491]: SESSION END
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sincerely yours,

Anton Terekhov 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anton O. Terekhov System Administrator      Email: anton@siobc.ras.ru
Shemyakin and Ovchinnikov Institute of             anton@nmr.ru
Bioorganic Chemistry                        Phone: +7-095-330-7483
Ul. Miklukho-Maklaya 16/10                  Fax:   +7-095-335-5033
Moscow 117871 Russia                        URL:   http://www.nmr.ru/~anton/ 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:05:31 -0400
From: "Daniel W. Forsyth" <forsyth@wchat.on.ca>
Organization: DATAFORGE
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Small Problem
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

System: Linux 2.0.30 w/Lastest Hylafax, USR 28.8K Sportster.

For some reason or another, faxgetty will answer the modem, recieve the
first page of an inbound document, and thats it?  Even when there is 2+
Pages?  I set the recvMax to 50, and 25... It still doesn't work?  

Any Ideas?

Thanks.

Daniel Forsyth.

(Please reply to forsyth@wchat.on.ca)  Thanks.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:38:01 +0200
From: Olaf Jaeger <ojaeger@ul.psi.de>
Reply-To: ojaeger@ul.psi.de
Organization: PSI AG, Berlin
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Phase B Error - Code 20
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

Im using Hylafax 4.0pl1 on a Linux 2.0.29 kernel with a "Creatix SG2834
turbo" modem (it has a Rockwell chipset).

The output below shows the log when trying to fax a mail coming through
the faxmail interface. The mail contained an attached postscript file
with type "postscipt" and encoding "MIME postscript".
.
Im using Pegasus mail (32-bit) with windows NT 4.0 workstation. The ps
file was generated by MS WinWord with an Apple Laserwriter driver.
The resulting ps file produced by faxmail looks ok and could be printed
on a
postscript printer. The printout contains the attached text only, no
mail header.

During fax operation the modem seems to get too large lines, so ist
refused further processing. When I strip off the faxmail generated
postscript frame an try to fax the bare ps attachment everything works
fine.

--------- (from hylafax log...) ---------

Sep 10 15:00:57.44: [ 1780]: SESSION BEGIN 00000277 4930xxxxxxxx
Sep 10 15:00:57.47: [ 1780]: SEND FAX: JOB 190 DEST xxxxxxxx COMMID
00000277
Sep 10 15:00:57.47: [ 1780]: DELAY 2600 ms
Sep 10 15:01:00.08: [ 1780]: <-- [15:ATE0V1Q0S0=0H0\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.10: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.10: [ 1780]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&K3&D3&C1\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.12: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.12: [ 1780]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=2\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.13: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.13: [ 1780]: <-- [10:AT+FTBC=0\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.14: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.14: [ 1780]: <-- [10:AT+FBOR=0\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.15: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.15: [ 1780]: <-- [13:AT+FPHCTO=30\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.16: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.16: [ 1780]: <-- [24:AT+FDCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.18: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.18: [ 1780]: <-- [5:ATM0\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.19: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.31: [ 1780]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=2\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.43: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.43: [ 1780]: <-- [10:AT+FTBC=0\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.54: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.54: [ 1780]: <-- [10:AT+FBOR=0\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.65: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.65: [ 1780]: <-- [13:AT+FPHCTO=30\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.76: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.76: [ 1780]: <-- [24:AT+FDCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Sep 10 15:01:00.88: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:00.88: [ 1780]: <-- [31:AT+FLID="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"\r]
Sep 10 15:01:01.00: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:01.06: [ 1780]: DIAL xxxxxxxx
Sep 10 15:01:01.06: [ 1780]: <-- [17:ATX3DT0Wxxxxxxxx\r]
Sep 10 15:01:14.18: [ 1780]: --> [5:+FCON]
Sep 10 15:01:16.95: [ 1780]: --> [29:+FCSI: "   +49 30  xxxx xxxx"]
Sep 10 15:01:17.00: [ 1780]: REMOTE CSI "+49 30  xxxx xxxx"
Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: --> [22:+FDIS: 1,3,0,2,1,0,0,4]
Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: REMOTE best rate 9600 bit/s
Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: REMOTE max page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm

Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: REMOTE max unlimited page length
Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: REMOTE best vres 7.7 line/mm
Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: REMOTE best format 2-D MR
Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: REMOTE best 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: USE 9600 bit/s
Sep 10 15:01:17.35: [ 1780]: USE 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Sep 10 15:01:17.36: [ 1780]: SEND file "docq/doc190.ps;30"
Sep 10 15:01:17.59: [ 1780]: Modem does not support document page width,

max page width 2432 pixels, image width 1686 pixels
Sep 10 15:01:17.59: [ 1780]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Sep 10 15:01:17.85: [ 1780]: --> [9:+FHNG: 20]
Sep 10 15:01:17.85: [ 1780]: REMOTE HANGUP: Unspecified Transmit Phase B
error (code 20)
Sep 10 15:01:18.43: [ 1780]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 10 15:01:18.43: [ 1780]: SESSION END

-------- (end of log) ------------------

I already set "Use2D : No" and "PageChop : No" in etc/config which
solves some former problems but unfortunaly not this one.

Any ideas what could be wrong ?


Thanks for help.
(Please answer by mail, because I didnt subscribe to the maillist.)


Olaf

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Rudi Heitbaum <rudi@darx.com.au>
Subject: flexfax: Modem not reseting after FaxSend, causing Answering to fail.
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:26:20 +1000 (EST)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

The problem that I am having with HylaFax 4.0pl1 is that after a FaxSend, the
modem is not reseting itself and causes the problem indicated with a *.
Could some one please point me in the direction of the settings that I need
to change to get the modem reset after a FaxSend.

OS: Linux 2.0.29 (Slackware 3.2)
Modem: Netcomm Roadster 33.6
Software: HylaFax 4.0pl1

At the "star"ed line, the modem answers the phone, but the fax machine at the
other end receives an error.

Normal Receive
--------------
Sep  8 17:56:17 iago FaxGetty[4701]: ANSWER: FAX CONNECTION
Sep  8 17:56:38 iago FaxGetty[4701]: RECV FAX (00000066): from TESTFAX 2, page 1
Sep  8 17:56:38 iago FaxGetty[4701]: RECV FAX (00000066): recvq/fax00007.tif fro
Sep  8 17:56:41 iago FaxGetty[4701]: RECV FAX: bin/faxrcvd "recvq/fax00007.tif"
Sep  8 17:56:48 iago FaxGetty[4701]: MODEM ROCKWELL AC/V34/V1.450-V34_DS-0.76

A failure on the first time the phone is answered
-------------------------------------------------
Sep  9 13:25:21 iago FaxQueuer[1039]: SUBMIT JOB 55
Sep  9 13:25:33 iago FaxSend[8706]: MODEM ROCKWELL AC/V34/V1.450-V34_DS-0.76
Sep  9 13:25:34 iago FaxSend[8706]: SEND FAX: JOB 55 DEST 9269 0444 COMMID 00000
Sep  9 13:26:21 iago FaxQueuer[1039]: NOTIFY: bin/notify "doneq/q55" "done" "1:2
*Sep  9 14:12:08 iago FaxGetty[5917]: ANSWER: Ring detected without successful ha
Sep  9 14:12:13 iago FaxGetty[5917]: MODEM ROCKWELL AC/V34/V1.450-V34_DS-0.76
Sep  9 14:12:52 iago FaxGetty[5917]: ANSWER: FAX CONNECTION
Sep  9 14:13:22 iago FaxGetty[5917]: RECV FAX (00000077): from 61 3 9905 3024, p
Sep  9 14:13:22 iago FaxGetty[5917]: RECV FAX (00000077): recvq/fax00010.tif fro

TIA

Rudi

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Managing Director            Fax: +61-3-9822 1728 
DARX Consulting Pty Ltd      http://www.darx.com.au/
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From sraja@cinenet.net  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
X-Authentication-Warning: hollywood.cinenet.net: sraja owned process doing -bs
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:57:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Suresh Rajagopalan <sraja@cinenet.net>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches

Hi;

Are these patches available from the individual folks or is it on a 
site somewhere?

Thanks
Suresh

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 13:20:39 +0100
To: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
Subject: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


 Hi.

 This is my list of patches & amendments to HylaFAX 4.0pl1 that have
 been mentioned in the mailing list.

 Email
 Date      Program         Change                      Submitted by
 ----      -------         ------                      ------------

 12/11/96  notify.awk     'trival fix'                 Andrew Speer

  4/12/96  faxcover.c++	split comment lines         Paul Hirose

 10/12/96  FaxConfig.c++  'small bug'                  Steve Williams

 11/12/96  status.c++      %z option fix               Ian Senior

  8/01/97  MIMEState.c++  '3 bug fixes' re accents     Luiz Zorzella
  (I assume the TextFmt.c++ fix is superseeded by Leif's patch below)
 
  3/02/97  ucpSendApp.c++   add UCP capability         Yngvi Sigurjonsson
  (enchanced by Dr. Andreas Muller in email 26/07/97)

 13/02/97  TextFmt.h/c++     character sets            Leif Erlingsson

 23/02/97  faxcover.ps       patch for MacFlex         Lorenzo Catucci

  5/03/97  FaxQCleanApp.c++ 'cannot open document'     Ian Senior

  7/03/97  Xferstats         re 'incorrect values'     David

 Apr  97   faxrm ??          add -a parameter          Jonathan Chen

 13/05/97  InetFaxServer.c++ 'bug in hfaxd'            David Gilbert
 (and repeated by Mark Vitek in email 16/07/97)

 28/05/97  Xferstats        truncating domain-names    Jonathan Chen

 01/06/97  Makefile.in     'faxsetup -client'          Tim Rice

 16/07/97  Class1Recv.c++   at+fae=1 fix               Jonathan Kamens

 18/07/97  TypeRules.c++   'byte order' & 'resolution' Jonathan Kamens 

 30/07/97  Modem config file for SupraExpress 56e      Jonathan Kamens 

 31/07/97  Class2.h        deal with 'Class 1.0'       Jonathan Kamens
 (superseeds patch in the email of the 30/7/97)

 24/08/97  TimeofDay.c++    time specifications        Stuart Poke

 23/07/97  mailfax.sh-qmail  script for faxmail        Morten Skjelland

 15/09/97  fontmap.pl       links from gs Fontmap      Evan Leibovitch

 22/09/97  ModemServer.c++  Unixware Configure fix     Tim Rice

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

 I can find references to, but not the actual patch itself, for the
 faxrm -a feature.

 Also to be added to this list is a couple of patches mentioned by Mr
 Arlington Hewes. In his email of the 22/5/97 "POKE!" a fix for the 
 'unnecessary rejection of source-routed email address when fed to 
 sendfax' and in his email of the same date "3 more patches" a fix for
 the 'requeue immediately bug'.

 I'm sure I've missed some, and I have made no effort to measure their
 worth - I am just wondering if we need to discuss the changes before
 thinking of going to patch level 2 ?

 
 Cheers,
 Phil Watkinson,
 Boston, UK.

From jonc@pinnacle.co.nz  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
X-Authentication-Warning: tui.pinnacle.co.nz: jonc owned process doing -bs
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 12:14:02 +1200 (NZST)
From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Phil Watkinson wrote:

>  Apr  97   faxrm ??          add -a parameter          Jonathan Chen

[snip]
>  I can find references to, but not the actual patch itself, for the
>  faxrm -a feature.

Here's an updated copy. The changes to the online documentation have
yet to be made . For those new to the list, the -a feature allows the
fax-adminstrator to remove a fax; on verification of a password
against the hosts file.
--
Jonathan Chen                          e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz
  Pinnacle Software Ltd                Voice  : +64.9.415.4460
  Auckland, New Zealand                Fax    : +64.9.415.4250

--------------------------------------------------------------------
*** faxrm.c++.old	Wed Nov 27 12:21:45 1996
--- faxrm.c++	Wed Sep 24 12:07:25 1997
***************
*** 56,63 ****
  
      fxBool jobs = TRUE;
      fxBool docs = FALSE;
!     while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "h:dv")) != -1)
  	switch (c) {
  	case 'd':			// treat args as document names
  	    jobs = FALSE;
  	    docs = TRUE;
--- 56,68 ----
  
      fxBool jobs = TRUE;
      fxBool docs = FALSE;
!     fxBool useadmin = FALSE;
! 
!     while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "ah:dv")) != -1)
  	switch (c) {
+ 	case 'a':
+ 	    useadmin = TRUE;
+ 	    break;
  	case 'd':			// treat args as document names
  	    jobs = FALSE;
  	    docs = TRUE;
***************
*** 75,81 ****
  	usage();
      fxStr emsg;
      if (callServer(emsg)) {
! 	if (login(NULL, emsg)) {
  	    for (; optind < argc; optind++) {
  		const char* id = argv[optind];
  		if (jobs) {
--- 80,88 ----
  	usage();
      fxStr emsg;
      if (callServer(emsg)) {
! 	if (login(NULL, emsg) &&
! 	    (!useadmin || admin (NULL, emsg))) {
! 
  	    for (; optind < argc; optind++) {
  		const char* id = argv[optind];
  		if (jobs) {
***************
*** 125,131 ****
  void
  faxRmApp::usage()
  {
!     fxFatal("usage: faxrm [-h server-host] [-dv] id...");
  }
  
  int
--- 132,138 ----
  void
  faxRmApp::usage()
  {
!     fxFatal("usage: faxrm [-h server-host] [-adv] id...");
  }
  
  int

From Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
To: pkw@elgro.co.uk (Phil Watkinson)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 08:02:59 +0200 (MSZ)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
>From: guru@sisis.de (Matthias Apitz)
Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de (Matthias Apitz)
X-FAX-cover: faxcover-sisis.ps

Phil Watkinson wrote:
    
    
     Hi.
    
     This is my list of patches & amendments to HylaFAX 4.0pl1 that have
     been mentioned in the mailing list.
    
     	....
    
     I'm sure I've missed some, and I have made no effort to measure their
     worth - I am just wondering if we need to discuss the changes before
     thinking of going to patch level 2 ?

Do to lack of time (I've also a real job to do for my bosses and
have had some other trouble too) I couldn't freeze a pl2 and do
the tests. I'm now working on it. Some of the patches must also
be verified on specific plattforms which I don't run in my company
or my home-office.

Before releasing a pl2 the keepers of the binariy distributions
or other folks should perform a beta-test on their systems too.
If you are interested in this test please reply to me directly (I'll
create a majordomo list of the beta testers on my server) and please
tell me which OS you're running. Thanks in advance.

	matthias
-- 
firm: matthias.apitz@sisis.de [voc:+49-89-61308-351, fax: +49-89-61308-188]
priv: guru@thias.muc.de
 PGP: Key fingerprint = 0C 01 F2 23 EC 17 A2 D5  46 2D 29 4C 0E 8B 7E 8F

From tim@trr.metro.NET  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:39:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim Rice <tim@trr.metro.NET>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Phil Watkinson wrote:

Add to the list my patch to compile on SCO Open Server 5
and a small patch to configure to add /usr/local/share/ghostscript/fonts
to the gs font search list. 

What's missing from this discussion is any comment from Matthias Apitz,
keeper of the source.

> 
>  Hi.
> 
>  This is my list of patches & amendments to HylaFAX 4.0pl1 that have
>  been mentioned in the mailing list.
> 
>  Email
>  Date      Program         Change                      Submitted by
>  ----      -------         ------                      ------------
> 
>  12/11/96  notify.awk     'trival fix'                 Andrew Speer
> 
>   4/12/96  faxcover.c++	split comment lines         Paul Hirose
> 
>  10/12/96  FaxConfig.c++  'small bug'                  Steve Williams
> 
>  11/12/96  status.c++      %z option fix               Ian Senior
> 
>   8/01/97  MIMEState.c++  '3 bug fixes' re accents     Luiz Zorzella
>   (I assume the TextFmt.c++ fix is superseeded by Leif's patch below)
>  
>   3/02/97  ucpSendApp.c++   add UCP capability         Yngvi Sigurjonsson
>   (enchanced by Dr. Andreas Muller in email 26/07/97)
> 
>  13/02/97  TextFmt.h/c++     character sets            Leif Erlingsson
> 
>  23/02/97  faxcover.ps       patch for MacFlex         Lorenzo Catucci
> 
>   5/03/97  FaxQCleanApp.c++ 'cannot open document'     Ian Senior
> 
>   7/03/97  Xferstats         re 'incorrect values'     David
> 
>  Apr  97   faxrm ??          add -a parameter          Jonathan Chen
> 
>  13/05/97  InetFaxServer.c++ 'bug in hfaxd'            David Gilbert
>  (and repeated by Mark Vitek in email 16/07/97)
> 
>  28/05/97  Xferstats        truncating domain-names    Jonathan Chen
> 
>  01/06/97  Makefile.in     'faxsetup -client'          Tim Rice
> 
>  16/07/97  Class1Recv.c++   at+fae=1 fix               Jonathan Kamens
> 
>  18/07/97  TypeRules.c++   'byte order' & 'resolution' Jonathan Kamens 
> 
>  30/07/97  Modem config file for SupraExpress 56e      Jonathan Kamens 
> 
>  31/07/97  Class2.h        deal with 'Class 1.0'       Jonathan Kamens
>  (superseeds patch in the email of the 30/7/97)
> 
>  24/08/97  TimeofDay.c++    time specifications        Stuart Poke
> 
>  23/07/97  mailfax.sh-qmail  script for faxmail        Morten Skjelland
> 
>  15/09/97  fontmap.pl       links from gs Fontmap      Evan Leibovitch
> 
>  22/09/97  ModemServer.c++  Unixware Configure fix     Tim Rice
> 
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>  I can find references to, but not the actual patch itself, for the
>  faxrm -a feature.
> 
>  Also to be added to this list is a couple of patches mentioned by Mr
>  Arlington Hewes. In his email of the 22/5/97 "POKE!" a fix for the 
>  'unnecessary rejection of source-routed email address when fed to 
>  sendfax' and in his email of the same date "3 more patches" a fix for
>  the 'requeue immediately bug'.
> 
>  I'm sure I've missed some, and I have made no effort to measure their
>  worth - I am just wondering if we need to discuss the changes before
>  thinking of going to patch level 2 ?
> 
>  
>  Cheers,
>  Phil Watkinson,
>  Boston, UK.
> 

--
Tim Rice			Multitalents	(707) 887-1469 (voice)
tim@trr.metro.net

From tpcadmin@info.tpc.int  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>, Phil Abercrombie <phil@Comp.VUW.AC.NZ>,
        jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen)
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches 
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 17:09:22 +0100
From: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int>


Great work Phil, thanks for getting the ball rolling!

>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, "PW" == Phil Watkinson wrote:

  PW> Hi.

  PW> This is my list of patches & amendments to HylaFAX 4.0pl1 that have
  PW> been mentioned in the mailing list.

[snip]

  PW> Also to be added to this list is a couple of patches mentioned by Mr
  PW> Arlington Hewes. In his email of the 22/5/97 "POKE!" a fix for the
  PW> 'unnecessary rejection of source-routed email address when fed to
  PW> sendfax' and in his email of the same date "3 more patches" a fix for
  PW> the 'requeue immediately bug'.

Oh gawd, you want patches? Let's see . . . I believe the unnecessary
rejection bit was a report of HylaFAX rejecting RFC-compliant From:
addresses (comes up if you run this turkey as an e-mail->FAX gateway a
lot). We got around the problem by sanitising the SMTP envelope's recipient
pretty aggressively, but a general fix would be good. Phil Abercrombie may
remember this one better than I. I would classify this as annoying, but
non-urgent.

I had said:

tpcadmin@info.tpc.int said:
> a) Unnecessary rejection of source-routed e-mail addresses when fed to
> the  sendfax commandline, reported by randy@psg.com

> @pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:owner-atlas-l@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU is rejected with:
> Malformed (null) sender name or mail address 


 As for a fix to the 'requeue immediately bug', well, Jonathan Chen and I
reproduced the problem together and I seem to recall him posting a very
tentative fix - or at least an analysis of the problem with reference to
code.  I will include my original post to the list below, in case it jump
starts a few neurons out there.


  PW> I'm sure I've missed some, and I have made no effort to measure their
  PW> worth - I am just wondering if we need to discuss the changes before
  PW> thinking of going to patch level 2 ?

Phil Abercrombie <phil@comp.vuw.ac.nz> reported a potential patch (I 
don't believe anyone ever commented on it) for:

Job numbers for outgoing faxes increase sequentially from 1 to 31999
but then instead of starting again at 0, the next number is 1999 and
then 200009 after which things settle down again.

Incorporating that one, should it resurface, would be high on the 
desirability scale, I would think.

How about Tim Rice's "make client" patch?? As well, any contributed         
modem configs, such as Creatix SG 144s from gorski@poboxes.com in           
<199708281843.UAA16970@poboxes.com>, oh and how about the mailfax script    
for qmail from Morten Skjelland <Morten.Skjelland@chembio.ntnu.no> in       
<kh1bu3tr45l.fsf@chembio.ntnu.no>.                                   

I hope this does not sound like I'm just whining for fixes - I would love 
to be able to offer code but I am not capable of contributing on that 
level, alas.

-DPN


The 'requeue immediately' post:

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 16:10:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Matthias Apitz <Matthias.Apitz@softcon.de>
Cc: Nico Garcia <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 Matthias.Apitz@softcon.de wrote:

> Do to lack of time (I've also a real job to do for my bosses and
> have had some other trouble too) I couldn't freeze a pl2 and do
> the tests. I'm now working on it. Some of the patches must also
> be verified on specific plattforms which I don't run in my company
> or my home-office.
> 
> Before releasing a pl2 the keepers of the binariy distributions
> or other folks should perform a beta-test on their systems too.
> If you are interested in this test please reply to me directly (I'll
> create a majordomo list of the beta testers on my server) and please
> tell me which OS you're running. Thanks in advance.

SunOS 4.1.4 and RedHat Linux 2.0.30, I'm game to do.

Also: anyone who has modem configuration files for specific new modem
brands, such as USR Sportster v.34, the PPI 33.6 modems, the
Performance 33.6 brand, or the new 56K modems from various companies,
please post them or let us know?


			Nico Garcia
			Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: Matthias Apitz <Matthias.Apitz@softcon.de>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
From: Phil Abercrombie <Philip.Abercrombie@MCS.VUW.AC.NZ>
Date: 25 Sep 1997 11:24:06 +1200
Lines: 14
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Matthias.Apitz@softcon.de writes:


> Before releasing a pl2 the keepers of the binariy distributions
> or other folks should perform a beta-test on their systems too.
> If you are interested in this test please reply to me directly (I'll
> create a majordomo list of the beta testers on my server) and please
> tell me which OS you're running. Thanks in advance.
> 
> 	matthias

I can test on netbsd-1.1/hp300(m68k).

        -phil

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int>
Cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
From: Phil Abercrombie <Philip.Abercrombie@MCS.VUW.AC.NZ>
Date: 25 Sep 1997 11:22:30 +1200
Lines: 54
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


"Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int> writes:

> Phil Abercrombie <phil@comp.vuw.ac.nz> reported a potential patch (I 
> don't believe anyone ever commented on it) for:
> 
> Job numbers for outgoing faxes increase sequentially from 1 to 31999
> but then instead of starting again at 0, the next number is 1999 and
> then 200009 after which things settle down again.
> 
> Incorporating that one, should it resurface, would be high on the 
> desirability scale, I would think.

Here's the patch, expanded to handle log/c* and recvq/fax* numbers
too:

--- hfaxd/HylaFAXServer.c++.orig        Thu Sep 25 11:08:52 1997
+++ hfaxd/HylaFAXServer.c++     Thu Sep 25 11:09:57 1997
@@ -532,7 +532,8 @@
     }
     sprintf(line, "%u", NEXTSEQNUM(seqnum+count));
     lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_SET);
-    if (Sys::write(fd, line, strlen(line)) != strlen(line)) {
+    if (Sys::write(fd, line, strlen(line)) != strlen(line) ||
+       ftruncate(fd,strlen(line))) {
        emsg = fxStr::format(
            "Unable update sequence number file %s; write failed.", filename);
        logError("%s: Problem updating sequence number file", filename);
--- faxd/ModemServer.c++.orig   Thu Sep 25 11:12:57 1997
+++ faxd/ModemServer.c++        Thu Sep 25 11:15:48 1997
@@ -588,7 +588,8 @@
        if (ftmp >= 0) {
            sprintf(line, "%u", seqnum);
            (void) lseek(fseqf, 0, SEEK_SET);
-           if (Sys::write(fseqf, line, strlen(line)) != strlen(line))
+           if (Sys::write(fseqf, line, strlen(line)) != strlen(line) ||
+                ftruncate(fseqf,strlen(line)))
                logError("Error writing commid sequence number file");
            Sys::close(fseqf);                  // NB: implicit unlock
            log = new
--- faxd/FaxRecv.c++.orig       Thu Sep 25 11:13:03 1997
+++ faxd/FaxRecv.c++    Thu Sep 25 11:15:29 1997
@@ -141,7 +141,8 @@
        (void) flock(ftmp, LOCK_EX|LOCK_NB);
        sprintf(line, "%u", seqnum);
        (void) lseek(fseqf, 0, SEEK_SET);
-       if (Sys::write(fseqf, line, strlen(line)) != strlen(line)) {
+       if (Sys::write(fseqf, line, strlen(line)) != strlen(line) ||
+            ftruncate(fseqf,strlen(line))) {
            emsg = fxStr::format("error updating %s: %s",
                FAX_RECVSEQF, strerror(errno));
            Sys::unlink(qfile);

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>, Phil Abercrombie <phil@Comp.VUW.AC.NZ>,
        jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen)
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches 
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 17:09:22 +0100
From: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" <tpcadmin@info.tpc.int>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Great work Phil, thanks for getting the ball rolling!

>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, "PW" == Phil Watkinson wrote:

  PW> Hi.

  PW> This is my list of patches & amendments to HylaFAX 4.0pl1 that have
  PW> been mentioned in the mailing list.

[snip]

  PW> Also to be added to this list is a couple of patches mentioned by Mr
  PW> Arlington Hewes. In his email of the 22/5/97 "POKE!" a fix for the
  PW> 'unnecessary rejection of source-routed email address when fed to
  PW> sendfax' and in his email of the same date "3 more patches" a fix for
  PW> the 'requeue immediately bug'.

Oh gawd, you want patches? Let's see . . . I believe the unnecessary
rejection bit was a report of HylaFAX rejecting RFC-compliant From:
addresses (comes up if you run this turkey as an e-mail->FAX gateway a
lot). We got around the problem by sanitising the SMTP envelope's recipient
pretty aggressively, but a general fix would be good. Phil Abercrombie may
remember this one better than I. I would classify this as annoying, but
non-urgent.

I had said:

tpcadmin@info.tpc.int said:
> a) Unnecessary rejection of source-routed e-mail addresses when fed to
> the  sendfax commandline, reported by randy@psg.com

> @pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:owner-atlas-l@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU is rejected with:
> Malformed (null) sender name or mail address 


 As for a fix to the 'requeue immediately bug', well, Jonathan Chen and I
reproduced the problem together and I seem to recall him posting a very
tentative fix - or at least an analysis of the problem with reference to
code.  I will include my original post to the list below, in case it jump
starts a few neurons out there.


  PW> I'm sure I've missed some, and I have made no effort to measure their
  PW> worth - I am just wondering if we need to discuss the changes before
  PW> thinking of going to patch level 2 ?

Phil Abercrombie <phil@comp.vuw.ac.nz> reported a potential patch (I 
don't believe anyone ever commented on it) for:

Job numbers for outgoing faxes increase sequentially from 1 to 31999
but then instead of starting again at 0, the next number is 1999 and
then 200009 after which things settle down again.

Incorporating that one, should it resurface, would be high on the 
desirability scale, I would think.

How about Tim Rice's "make client" patch?? As well, any contributed         
modem configs, such as Creatix SG 144s from gorski@poboxes.com in           
<199708281843.UAA16970@poboxes.com>, oh and how about the mailfax script    
for qmail from Morten Skjelland <Morten.Skjelland@chembio.ntnu.no> in       
<kh1bu3tr45l.fsf@chembio.ntnu.no>.                                   

I hope this does not sound like I'm just whining for fixes - I would love 
to be able to offer code but I am not capable of contributing on that 
level, alas.

-DPN


The 'requeue immediately' post:

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:04:19 +0100
To: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches 
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

At 17:09 24/09/1997 +0100, "Mr. Arlington Hewes" wrote:
>[snip-ola!]
>
>How about Tim Rice's "make client" patch??

On the list - see date of 1/6/97. To give a bit more info, in reply to
a question wondering what was the bare minimum needed to setup a (Unix)
client when there was already HylaFAX running on a server, Tim said :

  |>It looks like you will have to build the entire package, but you
  |>only need to install the client portion (make installClient).
  |>If you install my client patch then "faxsetup -client" will work 
  |>correctly.
  |>Don't forget to set your FAXSERVER environment variable on the client
  |>and add the client to the .../spool/etc/hosts file on the server.


> As well, ..., such as Creatix SG 144s from gorski@poboxes.com in..
   

Ah yes, thanks. Please add to my list :

28/8/97  modem config file for Creatix SG144s          Achim Gorski

><199708281843.UAA16970@poboxes.com>, oh and how about the mailfax script    
>for qmail from Morten Skjelland <Morten.Skjelland@chembio.ntnu.no> in       
><kh1bu3tr45l.fsf@chembio.ntnu.no>.

On the list. See 1/6/97 'mailfax.sh-qmail'.

>I hope this does not sound like I'm just whining for fixes - I would love 
>to be able to offer code but I am not capable of contributing on that 
>level, alas.
>

Same here; perhaps while Matthias and the others are working hard 
trying to get the pl2 code up and running, we could have a look at 
the documentation?

Cheers,
Phil Watkinson,
Boston, UK.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:29:15 +0200 (MSZ)
>From: guru@sisis.de (Matthias Apitz)
Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de (Matthias Apitz)
X-FAX-cover: faxcover-sisis.ps
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Just a small note to all contributors:

If you want to submit changes for pl2 just send diff's against
the original(!) pl1 sources or send new sources if there wasn't
an old file in pl1. For diff's do the following steps:

$ mv foo.c++ foo.c++.orig          # this saves the modification date
$ cp foo.c++.orig foo.c++
$ chmod 0644 foo.c++
$ vi foo.c++ (or whatever editor you prefer)
$ diff -c foo.c++ foo.c++.orig > foo.diff

Please don't use diff(1) on files created or modified by ./configure or
installation. Try to make sure that your changes don't break other
things and also run on any system.

Until now I've testers for the following list of systems:

Linux i86 (don't what this exactly is)
RedHat Linux 2.0.30
Slackware Linux 2.0.28
SunOS 4.1.4
AIX 3.2.5
AIX 4.1.4
AIX 4.2.0
netbsd-1.1/hp300(m68k)
UNIX x86 SVR4.2
SINIX 5.42 (mips)
SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2
SCO UNIX 3.2.5.x
UnixWare 2.03
UnixWare 2.1.2

	matthias

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Matthew.Rice@ftlsol.com
X-Authentication-Warning: hudson.ftlsol.com: matt set sender to Matthew.Rice using -f
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:04:59 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> Until now I've testers for the following list of systems:
> 
> Linux i86 (don't what this exactly is)

This would be me.  I meant to say ix86 (intel).  With the sparc/alpha/sgi
ports of Linux popping up I don't want anyone expecting too much.

I am/was the current maintainer of the Linux binaries, however, I noticed
that someone (Mr. Garcia?) volunteered for both Linux and Sun 4.1.4.  This
implies (to me) that he is using HylaFAX much more than I am.

If this is the case, I'm willing to step aside (plus I'm getting an SGI
soon so I may be able to work on the SGI/Linux version).

Let me know, I have some notes that were waiting for a pl2 release.

Regards,
-- 
Matthew Rice                             e-mail: matthew.rice@ftlsol.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:25:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Matthew.Rice@ftlsol.com
Cc: Nico Garcia <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

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On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 Matthew.Rice@ftlsol.com wrote:

> > Until now I've testers for the following list of systems:
> > 
> > Linux i86 (don't what this exactly is)
> 
> This would be me.  I meant to say ix86 (intel).  With the sparc/alpha/sgi
> ports of Linux popping up I don't want anyone expecting too much.
> 
> I am/was the current maintainer of the Linux binaries, however, I noticed
> that someone (Mr. Garcia?) volunteered for both Linux and Sun 4.1.4.  This
> implies (to me) that he is using HylaFAX much more than I am.

No, it's just that I have SunOS at work and a Linux box at home....

> If this is the case, I'm willing to step aside (plus I'm getting an SGI
> soon so I may be able to work on the SGI/Linux version).

I'd rather have someone else do the Linux, if they have the time. I've
never been able to get my Sportster modem running right under Linux, and
surrendered to time demands....



			Nico Garcia
			Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 07:52:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dave Wreski <dave@nic.com>
To: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
cc: Matthew.Rice@ftlsol.com, Nico Garcia <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



> I'd rather have someone else do the Linux, if they have the time. I've
> never been able to get my Sportster modem running right under Linux, and
> surrendered to time demands....

I was just wondering exactly what problems you had with your Sportster.

I succeeded in getting mine working, rather reliably, under Linux 2.0.30,
using gs-5.03, and making a few changes to my config.cua1 and setup.modem.

I'd be willing to provide more information, if it can be useful.  Can we
build a database of modem/hylafax configurations that can be searchable,
etc?

Thanks,
Dave

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:24:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Dave Wreski <dave@nic.com>
Cc: Matthew.Rice@ftlsol.com, Nico Garcia <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Sun, 28 Sep 1997, Dave Wreski wrote:

> > I'd rather have someone else do the Linux, if they have the time. I've
> > never been able to get my Sportster modem running right under Linux, and
> > surrendered to time demands....
> 
> I was just wondering exactly what problems you had with your Sportster.

I was never able to get it to send or receive faxes. Period.

> I succeeded in getting mine working, rather reliably, under Linux 2.0.30,
> using gs-5.03, and making a few changes to my config.cua1 and setup.modem.

> I'd be willing to provide more information, if it can be useful.  Can we
> build a database of modem/hylafax configurations that can be searchable,
> etc?

I'm game. 

			Nico Garcia
			Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
X-Authentication-Warning: tui.pinnacle.co.nz: jonc owned process doing -bs
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 13:26:49 +1200 (NZST)
From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
To: Matthias Apitz <Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: List of Outstanding Patches
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de wrote:

[snip]

> Until now I've testers for the following list of systems:

[snipped-list-of-systems]

I'll volunteer to test on:

	FreeBSD 2.2.2+
--
Jonathan Chen                          e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz
  Pinnacle Software Ltd                Voice  : +64.9.415.4460
  Auckland, New Zealand                Fax    : +64.9.415.4250

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Pierre MEURICE <P.Meurice@St-Emilion.citb.bull.net>
To: "'liste de diffusion hylafax'" <flexfax@sgi.com>,
        "'Super-User'"
	 <root@peach.asiainter.net>
Subject: RE: flexfax: Re: MS WORD format files 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:56:20 +-200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hello,

I am trying to use the windows postscript printer drivers to use postscript format file with my MSword, but those that I choose do not work.
Can you tell me witch one you use?????? 

----------
De : 	Super-User[SMTP:root@peach.asiainter.net]
Date d'envoi:	dimanche 24 aot 1997 06:49
A:	Roeland M.J. Meyer
Cc:	Evil Pete; flexfax@sgi.com; shipley@merde.dis.org
Objet:	Re: flexfax: Re: MS WORD format files 


On Sat, 23 Aug 1997, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> >it's not me, it's everyone else.  and i've got to serve everyone else.
> 
> This may not be the best of all solutions. But, I require any customer
> using my FAX facilities to send in Postscript format. WinWord, in all
> incarnations, has postscript printer drivers. I make my users use them. I
> get some gripes, but I don't get the problem you're complaining of either.
> I am working on another choice (PDF) but not all my WinWord users have
> Acrobat3/PDFwriter and it *is* quite expensive(~$300).
> 
> If you wanted to be sadistic, you could force plain-text <evil grin>.
> 
> Right now, I'm trying to get sendmail to bounce WinWord attachments to my
> FAX service. 

that's actually a pretty good idea, until you can support it, bounce it.
i can't ask anyone to send in postscript, coz they won't even know they're
sending to a fax.  it's just transparent.  and the customer is the one
receiving, not the one sending.
if somebody tries to send a word attachment, having the mail returned
would be better than having it disappear into thin air.  they could at
least know that it won't work, and contact the email recipient directly to
fax a hardcopy or something.

please let me know if/when/how you get that working with sendmail :-)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Pierre MEURICE <P.Meurice@St-Emilion.citb.bull.net>
To: "'liste de diffusion hylafax'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Re: MS WORD format files 
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 14:25:05 +-200
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



----------
De : 	Pierre MEURICE[SMTP:P.Meurice@St-Emilion.citb.bull.net]
Date d'envoi:	jeudi 18 septembre 1997 11:56
A:	'liste de diffusion hylafax'; 'Super-User'
Objet:	RE: flexfax: Re: MS WORD format files 


Hello,

I am trying to use the windows postscript printer drivers to use postscript format file with my MSword, but those that I choose do not work.
Can you tell me witch one you use?????? 

----------
De : 	Super-User[SMTP:root@peach.asiainter.net]
Date d'envoi:	dimanche 24 aot 1997 06:49
A:	Roeland M.J. Meyer
Cc:	Evil Pete; flexfax@sgi.com; shipley@merde.dis.org
Objet:	Re: flexfax: Re: MS WORD format files 


On Sat, 23 Aug 1997, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> >it's not me, it's everyone else.  and i've got to serve everyone else.
> 
> This may not be the best of all solutions. But, I require any customer
> using my FAX facilities to send in Postscript format. WinWord, in all
> incarnations, has postscript printer drivers. I make my users use them. I
> get some gripes, but I don't get the problem you're complaining of either.
> I am working on another choice (PDF) but not all my WinWord users have
> Acrobat3/PDFwriter and it *is* quite expensive(~$300).
> 
> If you wanted to be sadistic, you could force plain-text <evil grin>.
> 
> Right now, I'm trying to get sendmail to bounce WinWord attachments to my
> FAX service. 

that's actually a pretty good idea, until you can support it, bounce it.
i can't ask anyone to send in postscript, coz they won't even know they're
sending to a fax.  it's just transparent.  and the customer is the one
receiving, not the one sending.
if somebody tries to send a word attachment, having the mail returned
would be better than having it disappear into thin air.  they could at
least know that it won't work, and contact the email recipient directly to
fax a hardcopy or something.

please let me know if/when/how you get that working with sendmail :-)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Re: MS WORD format files
To: P.Meurice@St-Emilion.citb.bull.net (Pierre MEURICE)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:45:56 +0100 (BST)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

> De : 	Pierre MEURICE[SMTP:P.Meurice@St-Emilion.citb.bull.net]
> 
> I am trying to use the windows postscript printer drivers to use =
> postscript format file with my MSword, but those that I choose do not =
> work.

The OL 840 driver in Win 3.1 definitely works, although, for a generic
one I'd probably go for Apple LaseWriter..

I would suspect that any driver for a pure postscript printer will work
(someone tried with one that has a command at the front of the file to
switch it into postscript mode, but deleting this command made even
that work).

For Win 95, you need to set the option for every page to be complete.
You would probably be best making Win 3.1 ones conform to Adobe DSC
conventions.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 23:54:25 +0200
From: Bjoern Holtkotten <bholtkotten@wtal.de>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: HylaFAX: no client permission
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi folks,

I apologize if this is a stupid question but I'm quite a 'newby'. I want
to use HylaFAX (OS: LINUX 2.0.3). After configuration with 'setupfax'
get the following response:

# faxstat -v
Trying localhost (127.0.0.1) at port 4559...
Connected to localhost.
420 holtkotten.holtkotten.de server cannot initialize: Could not create
client/1652:permission denied

Honestly, I checked out man files and FAQs. Did I overlook something?
Please help.
Regards
Bjoern

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: root@raider.raider.net (Mark J. Bailey [HOME])
Subject: flexfax: Hylafax and modem grouping
To: flexfax@celestial.com
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 06:49:50 -0500 (CDT)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello,

A few questions:

1.  Can modems on a hylafax server be configured (classes?) such that
    certain modem(s) always are tried FIRST and some are tried after the
    primary ones are tried and found to be busy?  If so, how?

2.  Can a modem / class be setup do do, say, alphapaging only?  If so, how?
    (While other modems/classes remain for paging and faxing)

3.  Is it possible to hardwire a port controlled by Hylafax up to a 
    alphapaging bridge?  What would have to be altered in a config and 
    how could the hardwired connection be kept independent of the other
    ports with modems doing faxing?

Thanks

Mark

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:14:47 +0300
To: flexfax@sgi.com
From: Mario Misic <mario@laus.hr>
Subject: flexfax: Cannot send fax at specified time using sendfax command
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello !

Argument "-a time" with sendfax command doesn't work!

I try to use:

sendfax -a '14:25' -d30 /etc/hosts 
sendfax -a "14:25" -d30 /etc/hosts 
sendfax -a 14:25 -d30 /etc/hosts 
sendfax -a now + 5 minutes -d30 /etc/hosts 
sendfax -a "now + 5 minutes" -d30 /etc/hosts 
sendfax -a 'now + 5 minutes' -d30 /etc/hosts 
sendfax -a "0225 pm Sep 17" -d30 /etc/hosts

but I receive this message:

503 Bad time to send; time in the past.

But time is not in the past!!!!!!!""#$$%$&!"/#&
System date and time is correct!
I have hylafax_4.0pl0 !

Does anybody have such a problem ?

Thanks !

Mario Misic




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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:51:24 --100
From: coppelli@sun3.dsea.unipi.it (Alessandro Coppelli)
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Small problem
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi to all. I have small problem ...


SCENARIO
=========

   Linux 2.0.30
   Hylafax v 4.0pl1-1
   Internal Modem USR Sportster 14400
   
   
PROBLEM(s)
=======

   FAX COVER SHEET
      ( FAQ 36 )
      
     I have get tgif, faxcover-template.obj,make_faxcover .
     I have the variable FAXCOVER=mycover.ps
     The first page ( the cover page ) is small, no A4
     Why ?
     
    
    .......
    
    
    
    When  I  received facsimile on the server, how do I 
    ( client Win95 ( ex. whfc)  ) to get my faxsimile ?
    ( with whfc I see a lot of faxXXXX.tif, but where is my facsimile
    
    It's possible ,on the server, send ( by one mailer ) the facsimile 
    via e-mail .
    
    
    ...................
     
     
     

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 23:44:30 +0200
From: Markus Musewski <m.musewski@e-solutions.de>
To: Tanju Cataltepe <tanju@wakeup.org>
CC: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Cover page configuration parameters
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Tanju Cataltepe schrieb:

> Hello,
>
> I am setting up a HylaFAX server for the first time.
> Everything works fine,  but I could not find how to specify
> all the fields available on the cover page.
> For example, sender's/recipient's voice and fax numbers,
> companies....
>
> sendfax command line options set some of them but not all.
> I would like to be able to set all these dynamically to build
> a web interface to group of users.
>
> Tanju

Hello,

I have the same problem as Tanju.
After studying the manpages and mailinglist-archive it seems that there
are only few parameters which can be passed on dynamically to faxcover
via sendfax:

to
   -d "XXX YYY@FAXNUMBER"   prints XXX YYY on cover page
to-company
   -x
to-location
   -y
comments
   -c
regarding
   -r
from
   -f "XXX YYY <name@domain>" prints XXX YYY on cover page


The other parameters:

to-voice-number
to-fax-number
pageWidth
pageLength
from-company
from-location
from-voice-number
from-fax-number
commentsX
page-count
todays-date

where set automatically by faxcover by parsing ~/faxdb or configfile.
Because i get this information dynamically from a database i would like
to pass on this also via commandline or environment.

Maybe there is somebody outside who can give us a hint?

Thanks
Markus Musewski

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:57:51 -0300
From: kanaan <kanaan@pcastro7.if.ufrgs.br>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: only one page / waiting for v.21 carrier
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hello guys,

while everyone is thinking about great improvements to HylaFax I am having 
pretty simple problems:

I run Hylafax 4.0pl0 on RedHat 2.0.27 (Pentium166), my modem is a
cirrus logic 33.6.

I can send and receive, but only one page.  After that it fails.  It seems
something gets messed up after the MPS.


I am afraid this problem be related to another I have.  When dialing
out with kermit, etc I get the device busy message which seems to be
related to setting / not-setting &C1 and &D2.

These are the relevant lines from config.ttyS1

#
ModemType:              Class1          # use class 1 interface
ModemRate:              38400           # DCE-DTE communication rate
ModemFlowControl:       rtscts          # Set software flow control

ModemSetupDTRCmd:       ATS13=1&D2      # setup so DTR drop resets modem
ModemSetupDCDCmd:       AT&C1           # setup so DCD reflects carrier (or not)
ModemSetupAACmd:        AT+FAA=0
FaxT1Timer:             60000
AnswerRotary:           "fax data"
ModemAnswerFaxCmd:      AT+FCLASS=1;A   # default is to answer as fax
ModemAnswerDataCmd:     AT+FCLASS=0;A  # hangup and answer as data
Class1RecvIdentTimer:   10000           # timeout fax answer in 10 secs


I found two relevant messages on the mailing list archive but one was
somebody asking this problem.  The other was somebody else saying he
had the same problem...

Does anybody know what to do?

fine till here (one page actually printed on remote machine)

Sep 18 15:37:22.79: [ 8593]: SEND 1D RTC
Sep 18 15:37:22.79: [ 8593]: <-- data [29]
Sep 18 15:37:22.79: [ 8593]: <-- data [2]
Sep 18 15:37:22.79: [ 8593]: SEND end page
Sep 18 15:37:26.83: [ 8593]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 18 15:37:26.84: [ 8593]: DELAY 75 ms
Sep 18 15:37:26.93: [ 8593]: SEND send MPS (more pages, same document)
Sep 18 15:37:26.93: [ 8593]: <-- [9:AT+FTH=3\r]
Sep 18 15:37:27.07: [ 8593]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Sep 18 15:37:27.07: [ 8593]: <-- HDLC<3:FF C8 F2>
Sep 18 15:37:27.07: [ 8593]: <-- data [3]
Sep 18 15:37:27.07: [ 8593]: <-- data [2]
Sep 18 15:37:27.81: [ 8593]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 18 15:37:27.81: [ 8593]: <-- [9:AT+FRH=3\r]
Sep 18 15:37:30.91: [ 8593]: --> [0:]
Sep 18 15:37:30.91: [ 8593]: MODEM <Empty line>
Sep 18 15:37:30.91: [ 8593]: MODEM TIMEOUT: waiting for v.21 carrier
Sep 18 15:37:30.91: [ 8593]: <-- data [1]
Sep 18 15:37:30.92: [ 8593]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 18 15:37:30.92: [ 8593]: SEND send MPS (more pages, same document)
Sep 18 15:37:30.92: [ 8593]: <-- [9:AT+FTH=3\r]
Sep 18 15:37:31.06: [ 8593]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Sep 18 15:37:31.06: [ 8593]: <-- HDLC<3:FF C8 F2>
Sep 18 15:37:31.06: [ 8593]: <-- data [3]
Sep 18 15:37:31.06: [ 8593]: <-- data [2]
Sep 18 15:37:31.81: [ 8593]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 18 15:37:31.81: [ 8593]: <-- [9:AT+FRH=3\r]
Sep 18 15:37:34.91: [ 8593]: --> [0:]
Sep 18 15:37:34.92: [ 8593]: MODEM <Empty line>
Sep 18 15:37:34.92: [ 8593]: MODEM TIMEOUT: waiting for v.21 carrier

... snip ...

Sep 18 15:37:38.90: [ 8593]: MODEM TIMEOUT: waiting for v.21 carrier
Sep 18 15:37:38.90: [ 8593]: <-- data [1]
Sep 18 15:37:38.91: [ 8593]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 18 15:37:38.91: [ 8593]: <-- [9:AT+FTH=3\r]
Sep 18 15:37:39.05: [ 8593]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Sep 18 15:37:39.05: [ 8593]: <-- HDLC<3:FF C8 DF>
Sep 18 15:37:39.05: [ 8593]: <-- data [3]
Sep 18 15:37:39.05: [ 8593]: <-- data [2]
Sep 18 15:37:39.80: [ 8593]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 18 15:37:39.80: [ 8593]: MODEM input buffering enabled
Sep 18 15:37:39.80: [ 8593]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Sep 18 15:37:41.93: [ 8593]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 18 15:37:41.93: [ 8593]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Sep 18 15:37:41.93: [ 8593]: STATE CHANGE: SENDING -> MODEMWAIT (timeout 5)
Sep 18 15:37:41.93: [ 8593]: SESSION END

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 22:52:48 -0500
From: Selim Jose Miselem <selim@opensys.hn>
Organization: Open Systems, S.A.
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: 0 pages generated
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello all,

I was using HylaFAX 4.0p0 with noproblems. Then I upgraded to 4.0p1.
Since then I have not been able to send a fax.

Under p0 I was using /dev/tty02h. This is the device I use for dial-out
ppp. My OS is UnixWare 2.1.2.

When using /dev/tty02h I get:


HylaFAX scheduler on miscom: Running
Modem tty02h (+56.1600): Waiting for modem to come ready

JID  Pri S  Owner Number       Pages Dials     TTS Status
35   127 W   root 529868        0:0   0:12


With /dev/tty02 I get:


HylaFAX scheduler on miscom: Running

JID  Pri S  Owner Number       Pages Dials     TTS Status
36   127 W   root 529868        0:0   0:12


In both cases Pages displays 0:0. Why? And the status is always W.


Thanks in advance for your help.


Selim
--
Selim Jose Miselem - Open Systems, S.A.
Centro Comercial Dallas
San Pedro Sula, Honduras, C.A.
Tel/Fax (504) 529868

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Zdravko Balorda <zdravc@lie.fe.uni-lj.si>
Subject: flexfax: error mail
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 18:33:27 +0200 (MET DST)
X-Organization: Faculty of Electrical Engineering, Ljubljana
X-Dept: Laboratory for Industrial Electronics
X-Dept: Laboratory for CIM
X-Postal: Trzaska 25, SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia
X-Comm: Phone +386 61 1768-203   Fax: +386 61 1264-630
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

on error hylafax returns a message to the sender
along with coded fax. I wonder what one could do
with this coded fax? Wouldn't it be better if the
job got saved somehow in, say, an error directory.
Hylafax mail could inform sender how to resend it.

Thanks, Zdravko.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 00:20:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dave Wreski <dave@nic.com>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: 1734 pixels and gs version
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hi all.  I've found the reference in the troubleshooting howto regarding
too many pixels on postscript docs generated from MS programs.

It says get a new version of ghostscript, so I did.  All that download
time, and compile time, and all the other programs that are necessary to
make it run, but it still doesn't work.

There are still many references to setpagedevice in the gs files.  How do
I prevent them from setting the pixel size a measily 6 pixels shorter?

I'm using the following files on Linux-2.0.31-pre9, with HylaFAX-v4.0pl1:

ghostscript-5.03.tar.gz
ghostscript-5.03jpeg.tar.gz
ghostscript-5.03libpng.tar.gz
ghostscript-5.03zlib.tar.gz
ghostscript-fonts-other-5.03.tar.gz
ghostscript-fonts-std-5.03.tar.gz

I sure hope there is a simple solution, as I'm unfortunately under time
constraints, and have already spent a heap of time..

Thanks,
Dave Wreski

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:45:45 --100
From: coppelli@sun3.dsea.unipi.it (Alessandro Coppelli)
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Problem with whfc
Cc: uli@rgw-express.de
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi to all.


SCENARIO
========

  ( CLIENT )  Win95 with Office and WHFC
   
  (SERVER )   Linux box with latest Hylafax
  
  
  
 PROBLEM
 =======
 
 
   I write one file with Word and then it print on file
   for convert  it in poscript file. Then from client send to server
   this poscript file.
   
   The server send only cover sheet.
   
   
   Any idea ? 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:31:09 --100
From: coppelli@sun3.dsea.unipi.it (Alessandro Coppelli)
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Error
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi to all.


  I get this messages:
  
  
    From:Facsimile Agent <myserver>
    Subject: facsimile job 46 to 0,324312 failed
    Your facsimile job to 0,324312 failed because:
      Client does not support document page width, max remote page width 1728 
      pixels, image width 2479 pixels.
      
      
    How do I must now ?
    
    

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: "Tony Schliesser" <aschlies@citynet.net>
To: <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: sendpage and apache on Linux
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:23:07 -0400
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I am working on a simple sendpage/web gateway.  From the command line, a
simple C program such as:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <unistd.h>
void main() {

   execl("/usr/local/bin/sendpage","sendpage.web", "-q",
"-ptony","hello...testing",NULL);
}

Works....the page is sent. 

However, if I put the execl line into a C program and run as a cgi on a web
server, it bombs with a server error.  

I can only assume that perhaps the output of sendpage (lots of texts) is
the problem since the return value exec* is expecting is an int.  I don't
believe that I am the first to invent this wheel -- is there a way around
this?  I have tried to redirect the output and error channels to /dev/null
with no luck.

Thanks for any help,
Tony Schliesser

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:39:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: James MacKenzie <tomservo@erie.net>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Page Length problem
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I've got HylaFAX set up here, and am using mailfax.  It is faxing just
fine, except that no matter what options I use, I cannot get it to spit
out a full 11" page.  It cuts off right after the message ends, no matter
what length that is.  Is there any way I can get this to work correctly?
I've searched through several month's worth of this list's archives and
cannot find the answer.

Thanks,

Jim MacKenzie
tomservo@erie.net
System Administrator
ErieNet, Inc.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:53:59 +0300
To: flexfax@sgi.com
From: Mario Misic <mario@laus.hr>
Subject: flexfax: Sending fax with different permission
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hi! 


Is it possible to configure hylafax to send fax with different permission
than 600!

I want to give everyone file permissions 644 in directory
/var/spool/fax/docq/.

Is that possible!

Thanks a lot !!!








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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:25:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Porter <mike@UDel.Edu>
To: Tony Schliesser <aschlies@citynet.net>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: sendpage and apache on Linux
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

I wrote a sendpage cgi program a while ago.  You are welcome to it
if interested.  It is a Perl 5.0 (maybe 4.0?) program.

Mike

On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Tony Schliesser wrote:

> I am working on a simple sendpage/web gateway.  From the command line, a
> simple C program such as:
> 
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <unistd.h>
> void main() {
> 
>    execl("/usr/local/bin/sendpage","sendpage.web", "-q",
> "-ptony","hello...testing",NULL);
> }
> 
> Works....the page is sent. 
> 
> However, if I put the execl line into a C program and run as a cgi on a web
> server, it bombs with a server error.  
> 
> I can only assume that perhaps the output of sendpage (lots of texts) is
> the problem since the return value exec* is expecting is an int.  I don't
> believe that I am the first to invent this wheel -- is there a way around
> this?  I have tried to redirect the output and error channels to /dev/null
> with no luck.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Tony Schliesser
> 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: "Kai O'Yang" <oyang@phoebe.fcit.monash.edu.au>
Subject: flexfax: What's "REMOTE HANGUP: DTE to DCE data underflow (code 43)"?
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 13:20:03 +1000 (EST)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hi,

I'm trying to install a Hylafax server on a Solaris 2.5.1 x86 box with
Hayes Accura 288 faxmodem. 

Sometimes sendfax works but a lot of times it dies with:
...
Sep 23 13:16:17.05: [15317]: <-- data [924]
Sep 23 13:16:17.05: [15317]: SENT 25500 bytes of data
Sep 23 13:16:17.05: [15317]: <-- data [2]
Sep 23 13:16:18.37: [15317]: SEND end page
Sep 23 13:16:18.62: [15317]: --> [8:+FHNG:43]
Sep 23 13:16:18.62: [15317]: REMOTE HANGUP: DTE to DCE data underflow (code 43)
Sep 23 13:16:19.24: [15317]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 13:16:19.24: [15317]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Sep 23 13:16:19.37: [15317]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 13:16:19.38: [15317]: SESSION END

Does anyone know what is the problem and how to fix it?

Thanks in advance,
Kai

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:24:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim Rice <tim@trr.metro.NET>
Reply-To: Tim Rice <tim@trr.metro.NET>
To: HylaFax mailing list <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Re: "Unable to set RT scheduling parameters" Error
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Tim Rice wrote:
> 
> HylaFAX v4.0pl1
> UnixWare 2.03 & 2.1.2
> 
> I decided to track down an error in the syslog files.
> ....
> Jul 23 07:30:43 trruw21 FaxGetty[689]: Unable to set RT scheduling
> parameters: Invalid argument
> ....
> 
> I found it was coming from faxd/ModemServer.c++.
> The offending system call was priocntl(2)
> I discovered that UnixWare's version of priocntl(2) has no "RT" class.
> It does have FC (Fixed Priority Class) which acording to the man page
> "This ensures that a runnable fixed priority process is given
> CPU service before any process belonging to any other class."
> That sounds close to a Real Time Class.
> 
> I plan to impliment a patch that looks for sys/fppriocntl.h and sumbstitutes
> the RT class for FC class.
> 
> What I need to know is:
> 	a) Has anyone allready done this work?

It turns out Tony Lill had done the work allready.
I stripped out the neccessary stuff from a largre diff file Tony sent me,
applied it, and tested it. It works great. Thanks Tony.
Faxes that had trouble befor now work.

I've attached the patch.

> 
> 	b) Are there any platforms that have a priocntl(2)
> 	   with both RT and FC (and of course TS) classes?
> 	
> 	c) Are there any platforms with the RT class that
> 	   also have sys/fppriocntl.h?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Tim Rice			Multitalents	(707) 887-1469 (voice)
> tim@trr.metro.net
> 
> 

--
Tim Rice			Multitalents	(707) 887-1469 (voice)
tim@trr.metro.net

*** configure.old	Thu Jul 31 20:28:11 1997
--- configure	Thu Jul 31 20:22:24 1997
***************
*** 2692,2697 ****
--- 2692,2701 ----
  	Note "... configure use of SVR4 realtime process control interface"
  	echo '#define HAS_PRIOCNTL 1'
      }
+     CheckForDefine FP_NOCHANGE sys/priocntl.h sys/fppriocntl.h && {
+ 	Note "... called FP instead of RT"
+ 	echo '#define HAS_FPPRIOCNTL 1'
+     }
      CheckForDefine NDPRI sys/schedctl.h && {
  	Note "... configure use of IRIX realtime process control interface"
  	echo '#define HAS_SCHEDCTL 1'
*** faxd/ModemServer.c++.old	Tue Nov 26 12:00:00 1996
--- faxd/ModemServer.c++	Thu Jul 31 20:22:24 1997
***************
*** 257,263 ****
--- 257,267 ----
  #elif HAS_PRIOCNTL
  extern "C" {
  #include <sys/priocntl.h>
+ #ifdef HAS_FPPRIOCNTL
+ #include <sys/fppriocntl.h>
+ #else
  #include <sys/rtpriocntl.h>
+ #endif
  #include <sys/tspriocntl.h>
  }
  static struct SchedInfo {
***************
*** 269,277 ****
--- 273,287 ----
      { "TS", { TS_NOCHANGE, TS_NOCHANGE } },		// MODEMWAIT
      { "TS", { TS_NOCHANGE, TS_NOCHANGE } },		// LOCKWAIT
      { "TS", { TS_NOCHANGE, TS_NOCHANGE } },		// GETTYWAIT
+ #ifdef HAS_FPPRIOCNTL	// if still fails, set prio to 0
+     { "FP", { FP_NOCHANGE, FP_NOCHANGE, FP_TQDEF } },// SENDING
+     { "FP", { FP_NOCHANGE, FP_NOCHANGE, FP_TQDEF } },// ANSWERING
+     { "FP", { FP_NOCHANGE, FP_NOCHANGE, FP_TQDEF } },// RECEIVING
+ #else
      { "RT", { RT_NOCHANGE, RT_NOCHANGE, RT_NOCHANGE } },// SENDING
      { "RT", { RT_NOCHANGE, RT_NOCHANGE, RT_NOCHANGE } },// ANSWERING
      { "RT", { RT_NOCHANGE, RT_NOCHANGE, RT_NOCHANGE } },// RECEIVING
+ #endif
      { "TS", { TS_NOCHANGE, TS_NOCHANGE } },		// LISTENING
  };
  #elif HAS_RTPRIO
***************
*** 318,328 ****
--- 328,346 ----
  	if (priocntl((idtype_t)0, 0, PC_GETCID, (caddr_t)&pcinfo) >= 0) {
  	    pcparms_t pcparms;
  	    pcparms.pc_cid = pcinfo.pc_cid;
+ #ifdef HAS_FPPRIOCNTL
+ 	    if (streq(si.clname, "FP")) {
+ 		fpparms_t* fpp = (fpparms_t*) pcparms.pc_clparms;
+ 		fpp->fp_pri	= si.params[0];
+ 		fpp->fp_tqsecs	= (ulong) si.params[1];
+ 		fpp->fp_tqnsecs	= si.params[2];
+ #else
  	    if (streq(si.clname, "RT")) {
  		rtparms_t* rtp = (rtparms_t*) pcparms.pc_clparms;
  		rtp->rt_pri	= si.params[0];
  		rtp->rt_tqsecs	= (ulong) si.params[1];
  		rtp->rt_tqnsecs	= si.params[2];
+ #endif
  	    } else {
  		tsparms_t* tsp = (tsparms_t*) pcparms.pc_clparms;
  		tsp->ts_uprilim	= si.params[0];
X-Sender: mario@laus.dbk.laus.hr
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:12:08 +0300
To: jawildman@cfanet.com
From: Mario Misic <mario@laus.hr>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Sending fax with different permission
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

At 10:42 1997.09.22 +0000, Jim Wildman wrote:
>In your modem config file
>
>RecvFileMode:           0640
>

Yes I know that I can setup permission for received faxes, but I want to
change permission on fax wich I am sending.

When I send fax, there hylafax make postscript file in directory
/var/spool/fax/docq/ with permission 0600 but I want permission 0644.
 

>> Date:          Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:53:59 +0300
>> To:            flexfax@sgi.com
>> From:          Mario Misic <mario@laus.hr>
>> Subject:       flexfax: Sending fax with different permission
>
>> 
>> Hi! 
>> 
>> 
>> Is it possible to configure hylafax to send fax with different permission
>> than 600!
>> 
>> I want to give everyone file permissions 644 in directory
>> /var/spool/fax/docq/.





~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Mario Misic              | e-mail: mario@laus.hr       ~
~ CC Computer Consulting   | Tel:    +385 (20) 411-136   ~
~ Janjevska 15             |         +385 (1) 6552-330   ~
~ 20 000 Dubrovnik         | Fax:    +385 (20) 411-136   ~
~ Hrvatska (Croatia)       | URL:    http://www.laus.hr  ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every dog will have his day ! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 03:59:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dave Wreski <dave@nic.com>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Sportster and Phase B error
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hi all.  I have a "USRobotics Sportster V.34+ FAX" and am receiving
messages regarding "Unspecified Phase B error".

Reading the archives, I see others have had this problem before.  Some
people fixed the problem by lowering the baud rate to 19200.  It didn't
work for me.

What's my next move?  Is there _anyone_ who is using this modem
successfully for sending faxes?

I have an old internal USR modem, which is probably 14.4.  Would I be
better off with that?

I'd like to hear from someone who got this working, and possibly someone
sending me their working config.cua1 or other modem configuration
instructions..

Thanks,
Dave Wreski

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 05:48:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dave Wreski <dave@nic.com>
To: HylaFAX <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Data out, faxes in
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hi all.  I'm using hylafax-4.0pl1, Linux 2.0.31-pre9, uugetty from
getty_ps, and a USR Robotics. 

I'd like to be able to dial out, but get messages from faxgetty that it
can't control the modem..

Is there a special setting for uugetty, or hylafax to be able to do this?

Thanks,
Dave

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
X-Authentication-Warning: tui.pinnacle.co.nz: jonc owned process doing -bs
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 12:17:13 +1200 (NZST)
From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
To: Dave Wreski <dave@nic.com>
cc: HylaFAX <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Data out, faxes in
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Dave Wreski wrote:

> 
> Hi all.  I'm using hylafax-4.0pl1, Linux 2.0.31-pre9, uugetty from
> getty_ps, and a USR Robotics. 
> 
> I'd like to be able to dial out, but get messages from faxgetty that it
> can't control the modem..

For faxgetty to work correctly, it must have total control of the
serial port. In other words, no other gettys can be running. Disable
all other gettys, faxgetty will invoke them if it detects an incoming
data call.
--
Jonathan Chen                          e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz
  Pinnacle Software Ltd                Voice  : +64.9.415.4460
  Auckland, New Zealand                Fax    : +64.9.415.4250

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:53:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Cheryl L. Huntington" <clh@mellis.com>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: blank faxes - conversion problem?
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Help please! I have been diligently trying to 
get HylaFax 4.0p10 running on a i386 BSD/OS 3.0
system for years! (OK, so only a few weeks that 
seem like years.) After working through the 
infamous "Waiting for modem to come ready" problem,
I now have another one.

I have faxq, hfaxd, and faxgetty running. When
I send a fax, it dials, connects, sends the fax,
and says it's OK. But the fax is a blank page on 
the fax machine and the fax machine shows an error
occurred.  This is for a one page fax sent with the command
sendfax -n -d tty01 /etc/hosts

If I include the cover page, then the job fails with this
error:

Sep 23 15:33:30 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 33 (active dest +14087336054 pri 127
tts 0:00 killtime 2:57:52): CMD DONE: exit status 0
Sep 23 15:33:30 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 33 (sleeping dest +14087336054 pri 12
6 tts 0:00 killtime 2:57:52): SEND INCOMPLETE: requeue for 4:59; Unspecified Tra
nsmit Phase D error, including +FPHCTO timeout between data and +FET command
Sep 23 15:33:30 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 33 (sleeping dest +14087336054 pri 12
6 tts 0:00 killtime 2:57:52): SLEEP FOR 4:59

Various logs are below.

My guess is that the problem is with the ps2fax conversion. The ps file prints
OK on an HP printer (albeit not aligned well). If I run ps2fax manually
then try to send the tiff/f format file with faxsend, I get the following
errors:

Sep 23 14:24:08 delta FaxSend[10044]: MODEM ZYXEL U1496E/V 5.02 M
Sep 23 14:24:08 delta FaxSend[10044]: ps.fax: line 1: Syntax error, missing ':' on line 1
Sep 23 14:24:08 delta FaxSend[10044]: ps.fax: line 2: Syntax error, missing ':' on line 2
Sep 23 14:24:08 delta FaxSend[10044]: ps.fax: line 3: Syntax error, missing ':' on line 3
Sep 23 14:24:08 delta FaxSend[10044]: ps.fax: line 4: Syntax error, missing ':' on line 4
Sep 23 14:24:08 delta FaxSend[10044]: ps.fax: line 5: Syntax error, missing ':' on line 5
[etc. for 61 lines]

The ps2fax uses Ghostscript version 2.6.2 (4/19/95) and I've set
"Use2D: no" in the faxq config file.

Has anyone seen this problem?  I know there are patches, but I don't want
to go through rebuilding this (especially since I didn't build it in the
first place) unless I have a good idea that it would fix the problem.



The faxq log shows (one page fax):

Sep 23 15:15:36 delta HylaFAX[10179]: Filesystem has BSD-style file creation semantics.
Sep 23 15:15:36 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: SUBMIT JOB 32
Sep 23 15:15:36 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (suspended dest  pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:59:00): CREATE
Sep 23 15:15:36 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (ready dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:59:00): READY
Sep 23 15:15:36 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (ready dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:59:00): PROCESS
Sep 23 15:15:37 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (active dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:58:59): ACTIVE
Sep 23 15:15:37 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (active dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:58:59): PREPARE START
Sep 23 15:15:37 delta FaxQueuer[10182]: JOB 32 (active dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:58:59): CONVERT DOCUMENT: bin/ps2fax -o docq/doc45.ps;30 -r98 -w 1728 -l 280 -m 4294967295 -1 docq/doc45.ps.32
Sep 23 15:15:37 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (active dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:58:59): PREPARE DONE
Sep 23 15:15:37 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (active dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:58:59): CMD START /usr/contrib/lib/hylafax/faxsend -m tty01 sendq/q32 (PID 10196)
Sep 23 15:15:42 delta FaxSend[10196]: MODEM ZYXEL U1496E/V 5.02 M
Sep 23 15:15:42 delta FaxSend[10196]: SEND FAX: JOB 32 DEST 7336054 COMMID 00000054
Sep 23 15:16:23 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (active dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:58:13): CMD DONE: exit status 0x200
Sep 23 15:16:23 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (done dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:58:13): SEND DONE: 0:46
Sep 23 15:16:23 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (done dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:58:13): DEAD
Sep 23 15:16:23 delta FaxQueuer[9411]: JOB 32 (done dest +14087336054 pri 127 tts 0:00 killtime 2:58:13): DELETE

The faxq log for a two page fax is basically the same except it has
a line for converting the cover page, then fails with the error
I show above.

The log file C00000054 shows this (one page fax):

Sep 23 15:15:42.36: [10196]: SESSION BEGIN 00000054 14087336054
Sep 23 15:15:42.36: [10196]: SEND FAX: JOB 32 DEST 7336054 COMMID 00000054
Sep 23 15:15:42.36: [10196]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Sep 23 15:15:42.36: [10196]: DELAY 2600 ms
Sep 23 15:15:44.95: [10196]: MODEM set DTR ON
Sep 23 15:15:44.95: [10196]: MODEM set baud rate: 38400 baud, input flow RTS/CTS
, output flow RTS/CTS
Sep 23 15:15:44.95: [10196]: MODEM flush i/o
Sep 23 15:15:44.95: [10196]: <-- [44:AT&B1&N0&S0*F0S18=2S38.3=1S39=0E0V1Q0S0=0H0
\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.16: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.16: [10196]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&H3&D2&C1\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.17: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.17: [10196]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=2\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.18: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.18: [10196]: <-- [10:AT+FTBC=0\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.19: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.19: [10196]: <-- [10:AT+FBOR=0\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.20: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.20: [10196]: <-- [13:AT+FPHCTO=30\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.21: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.21: [10196]: <-- [10:AT+FBUG=1\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.21: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.22: [10196]: <-- [24:AT+FDCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.23: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.23: [10196]: <-- [5:ATM0\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.23: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.23: [10196]: MODEM input buffering enabled
Sep 23 15:15:45.25: [10196]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=2\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.36: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.36: [10196]: <-- [10:AT+FTBC=0\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.46: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.46: [10196]: <-- [10:AT+FBOR=0\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.56: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.56: [10196]: <-- [13:AT+FPHCTO=30\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.66: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.66: [10196]: <-- [10:AT+FBUG=1\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.76: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.76: [10196]: <-- [24:AT+FDCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.87: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.87: [10196]: <-- [30:AT+FLID="Mellis & Associates"\r]
Sep 23 15:15:45.97: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:15:45.98: [10196]: DIAL 7336054
Sep 23 15:15:45.98: [10196]: <-- [12:ATDT7336054\r]
Sep 23 15:16:07.22: [10196]: --> [5:+FCON]
Sep 23 15:16:07.22: [10196]: --> [18:+FNSF:00 00 00 00 ]
Sep 23 15:16:07.22: [10196]: REMOTE NSF "00 00 00 00"
Sep 23 15:16:07.22: [10196]: --> [27:+FCSI:        408 733 6054 ]
Sep 23 15:16:07.22: [10196]: REMOTE CSI "408 733 6054"
Sep 23 15:16:07.22: [10196]: --> [21:+FDIS:1,3,0,2,1,0,0,4]
Sep 23 15:16:07.22: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: REMOTE best rate 9600 bit/s
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: REMOTE max page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: REMOTE max unlimited page length
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: REMOTE best vres 7.7 line/mm
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: REMOTE best format 2-D MR
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: REMOTE best 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: USE 9600 bit/s
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: USE 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: SEND file "docq/doc45.ps;30"
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: USE page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: USE unlimited page length
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: USE 3.85 line/mm
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: USE 1-D MR
Sep 23 15:16:07.23: [10196]: <-- [24:AT+FDIS=0,3,0,2,0,0,0,4\r]
Sep 23 15:16:07.33: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:16:07.33: [10196]: <-- [7:AT+FDT\r]
Sep 23 15:16:07.47: [10196]: --> [18:+FNSF:00 00 00 00 ]
Sep 23 15:16:07.47: [10196]: --> [27:+FCSI:        408 733 6054 ]
Sep 23 15:16:07.47: [10196]: --> [21:+FDIS:1,3,0,2,1,0,0,4]
Sep 23 15:16:13.62: [10196]: --> [21:+FDCS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,4]
Sep 23 15:16:13.62: [10196]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Sep 23 15:16:13.62: [10196]: SEND wait for XON
Sep 23 15:16:13.62: [10196]: --> [1:^Q]
Sep 23 15:16:13.62: [10196]: SEND begin page
Sep 23 15:16:13.62: [10196]: <-- data [1027]
Sep 23 15:16:13.63: [10196]: <-- data [1027]
Sep 23 15:16:13.63: [10196]: <-- data [1030]
Sep 23 15:16:13.63: [10196]: <-- data [692]
Sep 23 15:16:13.63: [10196]: SENT 3762 bytes of data
Sep 23 15:16:13.63: [10196]: <-- data [2]
Sep 23 15:16:13.63: [10196]: SEND end page
Sep 23 15:16:18.74: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:16:18.74: [10196]: SEND send EOP (no more pages or documents)
Sep 23 15:16:18.74: [10196]: <-- [9:AT+FET=2\r]
Sep 23 15:16:22.01: [10196]: --> [13:+FPTS:1,2,0,0]
Sep 23 15:16:22.01: [10196]: SEND recv MCF (message confirmation)
Sep 23 15:16:22.01: [10196]: SEND FAX (00000054): FROM root@delta.mellis.com TO
7336054 (page 1 of 1 sent in 0:15)
Sep 23 15:16:22.01: [10196]: SEND FAX (00000054): FROM root@delta.mellis.com TO
7336054 (docq/doc45.ps;30 sent in 0:15)
Sep 23 15:16:22.07: [10196]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Sep 23 15:16:23.41: [10196]: --> [8:+FHNG:00]
Sep 23 15:16:23.41: [10196]: REMOTE HANGUP: Normal and proper end of connection
(code 0)
Sep 23 15:16:23.41: [10196]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 15:16:23.41: [10196]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Sep 23 15:16:23.42: [10196]: SESSION END



The comm log file for a two page fax:

Sep 23 12:11:30.34: [ 9726]: SESSION BEGIN 00000047 14087336054
Sep 23 12:11:30.34: [ 9726]: SEND FAX: JOB 24 DEST 7336054 COMMID 00000047
Sep 23 12:11:30.34: [ 9726]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Sep 23 12:11:30.34: [ 9726]: DELAY 2600 ms
Sep 23 12:11:32.93: [ 9726]: MODEM set DTR ON
Sep 23 12:11:32.94: [ 9726]: MODEM set baud rate: 38400 baud, input flow RTS/CTS
, output flow RTS/CTS
Sep 23 12:11:32.94: [ 9726]: MODEM flush i/o
Sep 23 12:11:32.94: [ 9726]: <-- [44:AT&B1&N0&S0*F0S18=2S38.3=1S39=0E0V1Q0S0=0H0
\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.15: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.15: [ 9726]: <-- [21:ATS8=2S7=60&H3&D2&C1\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.16: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.16: [ 9726]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=2\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.17: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.17: [ 9726]: <-- [10:AT+FTBC=0\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.18: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.18: [ 9726]: <-- [10:AT+FBOR=0\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.18: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.18: [ 9726]: <-- [13:AT+FPHCTO=30\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.19: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.19: [ 9726]: <-- [24:AT+FDCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.21: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.21: [ 9726]: <-- [5:ATM0\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.21: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.21: [ 9726]: MODEM input buffering enabled
Sep 23 12:11:33.22: [ 9726]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=2\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.32: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.32: [ 9726]: <-- [10:AT+FTBC=0\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.42: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.42: [ 9726]: <-- [10:AT+FBOR=0\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.52: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.52: [ 9726]: <-- [13:AT+FPHCTO=30\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.62: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.62: [ 9726]: <-- [24:AT+FDCC=1,5,2,2,1,0,0,0\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.73: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.73: [ 9726]: <-- [30:AT+FLID="Mellis & Associates"\r]
Sep 23 12:11:33.84: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:33.85: [ 9726]: DIAL 7336054
Sep 23 12:11:33.85: [ 9726]: <-- [12:ATDT7336054\r]
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: --> [5:+FCON]
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: --> [18:+FNSF:00 00 00 00 ]
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: REMOTE NSF "00 00 00 00"
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: --> [27:+FCSI:        408 733 6054 ]
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: REMOTE CSI "408 733 6054"
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: --> [21:+FDIS:1,3,0,2,1,0,0,4]
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: REMOTE best rate 9600 bit/s
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: REMOTE max page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: REMOTE max unlimited page length
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: REMOTE best vres 7.7 line/mm
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: REMOTE best format 2-D MR
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: REMOTE best 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: USE 9600 bit/s
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: USE 20 ms, 10 ms/scanline
Sep 23 12:11:55.28: [ 9726]: SEND file "docq/doc24.cover;70"
Sep 23 12:11:55.29: [ 9726]: USE page width 1728 pixels in 215 mm
Sep 23 12:11:55.29: [ 9726]: USE unlimited page length
Sep 23 12:11:55.29: [ 9726]: USE 3.85 line/mm
Sep 23 12:11:55.29: [ 9726]: USE 1-D MR
Sep 23 12:11:55.29: [ 9726]: <-- [24:AT+FDIS=0,3,0,2,0,0,0,4\r]
Sep 23 12:11:55.39: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:11:55.39: [ 9726]: <-- [7:AT+FDT\r]
Sep 23 12:11:55.53: [ 9726]: --> [18:+FNSF:00 00 00 00 ]
Sep 23 12:11:55.53: [ 9726]: --> [27:+FCSI:        408 733 6054 ]
Sep 23 12:11:55.53: [ 9726]: --> [21:+FDIS:1,3,0,2,1,0,0,4]
Sep 23 12:12:01.68: [ 9726]: --> [21:+FDCS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,4]
Sep 23 12:12:01.68: [ 9726]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Sep 23 12:12:01.68: [ 9726]: SEND wait for XON
Sep 23 12:12:01.68: [ 9726]: --> [1:^Q]
Sep 23 12:12:01.68: [ 9726]: SEND begin page
Sep 23 12:12:01.69: [ 9726]: <-- data [1029]
Sep 23 12:12:01.69: [ 9726]: <-- data [1037]
Sep 23 12:12:01.69: [ 9726]: <-- data [1029]
Sep 23 12:12:01.69: [ 9726]: <-- data [1034]
Sep 23 12:12:02.69: [ 9726]: <-- data [1032]
Sep 23 12:12:02.69: [ 9726]: <-- data [1034]
Sep 23 12:12:02.69: [ 9726]: <-- data [1031]
Sep 23 12:12:02.69: [ 9726]: <-- data [1029]
Sep 23 12:12:05.88: [ 9726]: <-- data [1040]
Sep 23 12:12:05.88: [ 9726]: <-- data [1043]
Sep 23 12:12:05.88: [ 9726]: <-- data [1036]
Sep 23 12:12:05.88: [ 9726]: <-- data [1027]
Sep 23 12:12:09.07: [ 9726]: <-- data [830]
Sep 23 12:12:09.07: [ 9726]: SENT 13118 bytes of data
Sep 23 12:12:09.07: [ 9726]: <-- data [2]
Sep 23 12:12:09.07: [ 9726]: SEND end page
Sep 23 12:12:14.99: [ 9726]: --> [10:^S^Q^S^Q^S^Q^S^Q^S^Q]
Sep 23 12:12:14.99: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:12:14.99: [ 9726]: SEND send MPS (more pages, same document)
Sep 23 12:12:14.99: [ 9726]: <-- [9:AT+FET=0\r]
Sep 23 12:12:24.43: [ 9726]: --> [21:+FDCS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,4]
Sep 23 12:12:24.43: [ 9726]: --> [7:CONNECT]
Sep 23 12:12:30.81: [ 9726]: --> [1:^Q]
Sep 23 12:12:30.81: [ 9726]: --> [10:NO CARRIER]
Sep 23 12:12:30.81: [ 9726]: REMOTE HANGUP: Unspecified Transmit Phase D error,
including +FPHCTO timeout between data and +FET command (code 50)
Sep 23 12:12:30.81: [ 9726]: <-- [6:AT+FK\r]
Sep 23 12:12:30.91: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:12:30.91: [ 9726]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Sep 23 12:12:31.21: [ 9726]: --> [2:OK]
Sep 23 12:12:31.21: [ 9726]: MODEM set DTR OFF
Sep 23 12:12:31.22: [ 9726]: SESSION END


Thank you thank you thank you for any and all help.

Cheryl Huntington


--
Cheryl Huntington	 Mellis & Associates		clh@mellis.com
		    655 Town and Country Village
			Sunnyvale, CA 94086
		Office: 408-733-6054	Pager: 800-789-7695

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: evan@telly.org (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: flexfax: whfc: dialing but not sending
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:21:17 -0400 (EDT)
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


I have a HylaFAX/whfc setup with a strange problem.

When I send something natively from the HylaFAX system, all is OK.
If I send something from whfc, HylaFAX properly dials the number of
the remote fax, but doesn't appear to send anything. The remote fax
reports an error at the sending end, and HylaFAX reports that the
job went through normally.

Any suggestions?

-- 
  Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
 Supporting PC-based Unix since 1985 / Caldera & SCO authorized / www.telly.org
When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem comes to look like a nail

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:28:40 +0200
From: Ulrich Eckhardt <uli@transcom.de>
Organization: Transcom
To: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
CC: HylaFax Mailing liste <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: whfc: dialing but not sending
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> 
> I have a HylaFAX/whfc setup with a strange problem.
> 
> When I send something natively from the HylaFAX system, all is OK.
> If I send something from whfc, HylaFAX properly dials the number of
> the remote fax, but doesn't appear to send anything. The remote fax
> reports an error at the sending end, and HylaFAX reports that the
> job went through normally.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

Hi,

do you try to send documents which are not in postscript format ?
If so, format your documents to postscript before sending them,
because whfc does not convert documents, like sendfax do.

If this is not the problem, have a look at your logs and provide
some more infos.

Uli
-- 
Ulrich Eckhardt		                   mailto:uli@transcom.de
http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/uli
Truly great madness can not be achieved without significant
intelligence. (Henrik Tikkanen)

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:40:20 --100
From: coppelli@sun3.dsea.unipi.it (Alessandro Coppelli)
To: uli@transcom.de
Subject: Re: flexfax: whfc: dialing but not sending
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

 
> do you try to send documents which are not in postscript format ?
> If so, format your documents to postscript before sending them,
> because whfc does not convert documents, like sendfax do.
> 
> If this is not the problem, have a look at your logs and provide
> some more infos.
> 
> Uli
> -- 
> Ulrich Eckhardt		                   mailto:uli@transcom.de
> http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/uli
> Truly great madness can not be achieved without significant
> intelligence. (Henrik Tikkanen)


  HELP!! HELP !!!
  
  I tried to send poscript files from whfc ( word ---> print --> on file )
  
  but only cover sheet is to send .
  
  WHY !!!
  
  
  Alessandro

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:26:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
To: Alessandro Coppelli <coppelli@sun3.dsea.unipi.it>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: whfc: dialing but not sending
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Alessandro Coppelli wrote:

> > do you try to send documents which are not in postscript format ?
> > If so, format your documents to postscript before sending them,
> > because whfc does not convert documents, like sendfax do.

Thanks, Uli, that did it. whfc requires that the document be fed to it is
postscript.

- Evan

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:41 1999
From: Jason Malone <webmaster@roman.net>
Reply-To: "webmaster@roman.net" <webmaster@roman.net>
To: "'flexfax@sgi.com'" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: flexfax: Modem not dialing correct number.
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:51:41 -0400
Organization: Roman.Net
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Hello everyone,

This is my very first post to this list.  I just got the HylaFAX software and 
installed it yesterday.  I am having a small problem though.

I installed the software on a Linux 2.0.29 box with an external USR 28.8 
Sportster.  The main thing I want to use the package for right now is to setup 
an email to fax gateway.  I think I have sendmail configured correctly because 
when I send mail to JasonMalone@2347615.FAX the information gets passed to the 
faxq for processing.  The problem is that when I send the message, I eventually 
get a no answer error from faxstat -s. Also it is obvious from the modem 
speaker that it is dialing way to many numbers.  Has anyone seen this problem 
before?

Jason Malone
Webmaster@Roman.Net
http://www.Roman.Net

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:07:09 +0100
To: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Modem not dialing correct number.
Cc: "webmaster@roman.net" <webmaster@roman.net>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

At 14:51 25/09/1997 -0400, Jason Malone wrote:
>[snip]
>I installed the software on a Linux 2.0.29 box with an external USR 28.8 
>Sportster.  The main thing I want to use the package for right now is to
setup 
>an email to fax gateway.  I think I have sendmail configured correctly
because 
>when I send mail to JasonMalone@2347615.FAX the information gets passed to
the 
>faxq for processing.  The problem is that when I send the message, I 
>eventually 
>get a no answer error from faxstat -s. Also it is obvious from the modem 
>speaker that it is dialing way to many numbers.  Has anyone seen this
problem 
>before?
>

Can we check the mailfax script?  Mine currently looks like this :-

#! /bin/sh
#
#  mailfax - email to fax gateway for sendmail
#
#  This file should be installed as /usr/local/lib/fax/mailfax
#
/usr/local/bin/faxmail -v -n -p 11 \
        -Ml=0.75in,t=2.00in -d "$1@$2" "$3" 2>>/var/log/faxlog


Note that the order of the parameters passed to the script ( the "$1@$2"
"$3" bit above ) reflects the arguments specified on the sendmail fax 
mailer - if you look at your sendmail.cf file, right at the end of the 
mailer definitions you should see something like :

	A=mailfax $u $h $f

These are the sendmail user, host and from arguments respectively, and
the mailfax script parameters needs to be in the same order.

[If this is missing from the sendmail.cf, you need to go back to the 'mc'
 macro file and look at that again (please do not edit the 'cf' file) ].

Altho' the mailfax script is owned by root/root; it has 555 permissions.
I also orginally had problems getting it running - it turned out to be the 
permissions on the faxlog file - increasing them to 666 did the trick.

Hope this has been of some help,

Cheers,
Phil Watkinson,
Boston, UK.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: 	Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:34:08 -0400
From: hugh@mimosa.com ("D. Hugh Redelmeier")
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: new modems vs Class 2
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Do any of the new, fast modems support Class 2 or Class 2.0?

My understanding is that HylaFAX is much more likely to work with
Class 2 rather than Class 1 modems because Class 1 has more stringent
real-time response requirements.

In my casual looking at X2, K56, and even 33kbps modems, Class 2 seems
to have disappeared.

- Is this a problem for HylaFAX?

- I vaguely remember hearing something about changes to Class 1 that
  would reduce the realtime requirements.  Has this happened?  If so,
  does HylaFAX know?

- Are there high-speed analogue modems that support Class 2 or Class
  3.0 and that are cheap and reliable?

Case in point: I use a Motorola ModemSURFR (love that name!) external
28.8 fairly happily.  I've been offered upgrades to 33kbps and k56
ModemSURFRs, but neither seem to support Class 2.

What are others doing?

Thanks,

Hugh Redelmeier
hugh@mimosa.com  voice: +1 416 482-8253

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 22:23:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
To: "D. Hugh Redelmeier" <hugh@mimosa.com>
cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: new modems vs Class 2
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:

> Do any of the new, fast modems support Class 2 or Class 2.0?

The 33.6Kbps Multitechs support Class 2.

- Evan

>Received: (from john@localhost) by johncon.johncon.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA04595; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:29:51 -0700
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:29:51 -0700
From: John Conover <john@johncon.johncon.com>
To: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
Cc: "D. Hugh Redelmeier" <hugh@mimosa.com>, flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: new modems vs Class 2
Reply-To: John Conover <john@johncon.johncon.com>
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Evan Leibovitch writes:
> 
> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> 
> > Do any of the new, fast modems support Class 2 or Class 2.0?
> 
> The 33.6Kbps Multitechs support Class 2.
>

Zoom Telephonics 33.6, also, supports Class 2. I had it working (as
expedient hacks,) with rtscts, and adaptive answer, (which their tech
support claims works, but is not supported,) in both data and fax. I
had trouble with certain fax machines hanging up after answering this
modem, (Panasonic, if I remember correctly,) but this may be do to the
hacking I did, (I only spent about an hour on it.) Street prices are
near a hundred bucks, $US, in California. I didn't try Class 1. The
lights on the modem, (there are lots of them, including an off hook,
which I find irritating that USR omitted,) are useful. For testing, I
wrote a script which bounced a 60 page hi-density fax back and forth
to an ATT/Paradigm DataPort, overnight. Seemed to work OK, excepting
the peculiarity with certain fax machines. I used the config.dev that
was posted here, with modifications, which I have sense put in
/dev/null. (So, I don't have them any longer.) I may not have run the
fax mode in rtscts, (since many of the modems using the Rockwell chip
require that rcscts be enabled, explicitly, in the start up script,
which MAY account for the peculiarity with certain fax machines. I
didn't try it.) I used the external version, with Linux 1.2.8, and
Hylafax 3.5, I think it is.

Might be worth a try. Your milage may very.

        John

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From: John Conover <john@johncon.johncon.com>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: new modems vs Class 2
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John Conover writes:
> 
> Zoom Telephonics 33.6, also, supports Class 2. I had it working (as
> expedient hacks,) with rtscts, and adaptive answer, (which their tech
> support claims works, but is not supported,) in both data and fax. I
> had trouble with certain fax machines hanging up after answering this
> modem, (Panasonic, if I remember correctly,) but this may be do to the
> hacking I did, (I only spent about an hour on it.) Street prices are
> near a hundred bucks, $US, in California. I didn't try Class 1. The
> lights on the modem, (there are lots of them, including an off hook,
> which I find irritating that USR omitted,) are useful. For testing, I
> wrote a script which bounced a 60 page hi-density fax back and forth
> to an ATT/Paradigm DataPort, overnight. Seemed to work OK, excepting
> the peculiarity with certain fax machines. I used the config.dev that
> was posted here, with modifications, which I have sense put in
> /dev/null. (So, I don't have them any longer.) I may not have run the
> fax mode in rtscts, (since many of the modems using the Rockwell chip
> require that rcscts be enabled, explicitly, in the start up script,
> which MAY account for the peculiarity with certain fax machines. I
> didn't try it.) I used the external version, with Linux 1.2.8, and
> Hylafax 3.5, I think it is.
>

Attached is the dialer sequences "suggested" by Zoom tech support.

	John

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 08:10:35 EDT
From: glenn@aoi.ultranet.com (Glenn Burkhardt)
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: new modems vs Class 2
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> 
> Do any of the new, fast modems support Class 2 or Class 2.0?

> 
Although some of the Zoom Telephonics 33.6k modems support Class 2.0, the 
latest model does not.  This apparently has to do with Rockwell withdrawing
support for Class 2.0 in their chipset (although I don't know exactly).

I personally want to use a modem with Class 2.0 support, since we use Sun's
with many users per box, and I don't believe in using general purpose
multi-user computers to do protocol timings that have values measured in
milliseconds.

The MultiTech ZDX line still supports Class 2.0, as far as I know.

While we're on the subject of which modem to use, I'd like to hear about
experiences with receiving faxes, which has always been a problem for us, 
with both the MultiTech ZDX and Zoom Telephonics modems.  We can send faxes
anywhere, even overseas where the phone lines are often inferior to 
domestic connections.  But receiving faxes has always been dicey.

Thanks!

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
From: rac@tenzing.org (Roger Cornelius)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:32:38 -0400
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: new modems vs Class 2
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

[On 29 Sep 97 22:23 -0400, evan@telly.org wrote:]

>
>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
>
>> Do any of the new, fast modems support Class 2 or Class 2.0?
>
>The 33.6Kbps Multitechs support Class 2.

Note that the new Multitech K56flex model currently supports only class 1.
I was ready to ship off my 2834ZDXb to be upgraded when I was told this.
They explained that the class 2 code wouldn't fit on the chipset they
were using after they added the 56K stuff and to wait a month or so and
call back to see if the problem had been remedied.

-- 
Roger Cornelius        rac@tenzing.org

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
From: Steve Williams <steve@genie96.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: new modems vs Class 2
To: glenn@aoi.ultranet.com (Glenn Burkhardt)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:54:25 -0600 (MDT)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Read-Receipt-To: steve@genie96.com
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

[snip] 
> While we're on the subject of which modem to use, I'd like to hear about
> experiences with receiving faxes, which has always been a problem for us, 
> with both the MultiTech ZDX and Zoom Telephonics modems.  We can send faxes
> anywhere, even overseas where the phone lines are often inferior to 
> domestic connections.  But receiving faxes has always been dicey.
 
Hi,
We use the ZDX's here.  I have a post from quite a while ago that deals with
ZDX's receiving faxes.  Please see below, and good Luck,

	Steve Williams, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
	Genie Computer Systems Inc.
	steve@genie96.com
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>From daemon Thu Sep 19 11:00:43 1996
From: Glenn Burkhardt <glenn@aoi.ultranet.com>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: MultiTech ZDX2834 modems

I've been working with MultiTech support, and we've found out how to
improve the ZDX 2834's ability to receive faxes.  The receive threshold
in negative decibels is determined by the S38 register.  Its factory
default value is 43; changing it to 35 makes it possible to receive
faxes from our AT&T 3510D fax machine (and probably many others).  

The command "ATS38=35" will change the value of the S register.
The command "AT&F9" will prevent the factory default value from being
loaded should the command "AT&F" be issued.  So, recommend this
one-time, out of the box, initialization for the modem:

AT&F
ATS38=35
AT&F9
AT&W0

The explanation they had was that when carrier was dropped as part of the
normal facsimile handshaking, noise on the line was above the receive
threshold level, making the modem think that carrier hadn't be dropped.
Eventually, the T2 timer expired, and the modem reported "+FHNG:73"
(T.30 T2 timeout, expected page not received (code 73) ).  Increasing
the modem's receive threshold to -35db keeps the noise level below the 
carrier, at least for my fax machine and phone lines

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:57:05 +0100 (MET)
From: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
cc: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
Subject: flexfax: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hi again,

I still have problems with Hylfax 4.0pl1 and a Zyxel 1496EG+.

As reported already, transmission to certain fax machines fail
with an error after issueing the MPS (more pages, same document)
command. 

Someone told me to use the config line

Class2DCCQueryCmd:     "!(0,1),(0-5),(0-2),(0-2),(0,1),(0),(0),(0-7)"

This doesn't work. Actually, instead of a RTN pass, the remote modem
now hangs up. Which obviously has the same effect: 3 retries, and
no success.

In the meantime, I took a look at the FAQ and use the following

Class2DCCQueryCmd:      "!(0,1),(0-7),(0-4),(0-2),(0),(0),(0),(0-7)"

which doesn't work either. 
Is there any description of the Class2DCCQueryCmd that is more
informational than just "use this one if you have trouble with..." ?

Also, someone told me to disable ECM at all and recompile Hylafax.
How can I disable ECM? Is there any config oder include file
or do I really need to go into the source? The last time I had to
do this was with Hylafax 3.0-don't-know-anymore and it wasn't very 
exciting....

Any recommendations welcome. Really :-(

Cheers,
Andy

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:03:01 +0100 (MET)
From: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Re: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Andreas Busse wrote:

Oh, and just another thing. How can I make "faxrm" use an
administrative account? I have no problem removing faxes
from the queue with a telnet connection to the fax server
and using the JKILL command, but faxrm _always_ fails with 
"504 Cannot kill job: Operation not permitted.", regardless 
which account I use.

Any hints?

Thanks,
Andy

> 
> Hi again,
> 
> I still have problems with Hylfax 4.0pl1 and a Zyxel 1496EG+.
> 
> As reported already, transmission to certain fax machines fail
> with an error after issueing the MPS (more pages, same document)
> command. 
> 
> Someone told me to use the config line
> 
> Class2DCCQueryCmd:     "!(0,1),(0-5),(0-2),(0-2),(0,1),(0),(0),(0-7)"
> 
> This doesn't work. Actually, instead of a RTN pass, the remote modem
> now hangs up. Which obviously has the same effect: 3 retries, and
> no success.
> 
> In the meantime, I took a look at the FAQ and use the following
> 
> Class2DCCQueryCmd:      "!(0,1),(0-7),(0-4),(0-2),(0),(0),(0),(0-7)"
> 
> which doesn't work either. 
> Is there any description of the Class2DCCQueryCmd that is more
> informational than just "use this one if you have trouble with..." ?
> 
> Also, someone told me to disable ECM at all and recompile Hylafax.
> How can I disable ECM? Is there any config oder include file
> or do I really need to go into the source? The last time I had to
> do this was with Hylafax 3.0-don't-know-anymore and it wasn't very 
> exciting....
> 
> Any recommendations welcome. Really :-(
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:41:18 +0100 (MET)
From: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
To: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: flexfax: Re: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Andreas Busse wrote:

Hi again,

sorry for bothering you all again... I solved the problem. 
Well, not really, but it's at least a satisfying solution.

German users with Zyxel 1496EG+ modems: Get an old dusty 1496E.
That works ;-)

Cheers,
Andy

> 
> Hi again,
> 
> I still have problems with Hylfax 4.0pl1 and a Zyxel 1496EG+.
> 
> As reported already, transmission to certain fax machines fail
> with an error after issueing the MPS (more pages, same document)
> command. 
> 
> Someone told me to use the config line
> 
> Class2DCCQueryCmd:     "!(0,1),(0-5),(0-2),(0-2),(0,1),(0),(0),(0-7)"
> 
> This doesn't work. Actually, instead of a RTN pass, the remote modem
> now hangs up. Which obviously has the same effect: 3 retries, and
> no success.
> 
> In the meantime, I took a look at the FAQ and use the following
> 
> Class2DCCQueryCmd:      "!(0,1),(0-7),(0-4),(0-2),(0),(0),(0),(0-7)"
> 
> which doesn't work either. 
> Is there any description of the Class2DCCQueryCmd that is more
> informational than just "use this one if you have trouble with..." ?
> 
> Also, someone told me to disable ECM at all and recompile Hylafax.
> How can I disable ECM? Is there any config oder include file
> or do I really need to go into the source? The last time I had to
> do this was with Hylafax 3.0-don't-know-anymore and it wasn't very 
> exciting....
> 
> Any recommendations welcome. Really :-(
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:42:27 +0100 (MET)
From: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
To: Alexandre Meissonnier <ameissonnier@dohle.com>
cc: "flexfax@sgi.com" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: RE: flexfax: Re: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Alexandre Meissonnier wrote:
> 
> Really? Which firmware revision do you use? Mine is 6.01 and it does NOT 
> work as it should. I get more and more calls from angry customers who get 
> the same page up to 10 times.
> 

It doesn't work perfectly, no. But at least better than the EG+.

Anyway, I have a test partner now, who's fax usually produces
this annoying problem so that I can check if any recommendations
take effect.

Cheers,
Andy

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
From: Alexandre Meissonnier <ameissonnier@dohle.com>
Reply-To: "ameissonnier@dohle.com" <ameissonnier@dohle.com>
To: "'Andreas Busse'" <ab@ivm.net>, "flexfax@sgi.com" <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: RE: flexfax: Re: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:27:46 +0200
Organization: Dohle Handelsgruppe Systemberatung GmbH
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com



-----Original Message-----
From:	Andreas Busse [SMTP:ab@ivm.net]
Sent:	Tuesday, October 14, 1997 3:41 PM
To:	flexfax@sgi.com
Subject:	flexfax: Re: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Andreas Busse wrote:

> German users with Zyxel 1496EG+ modems: Get an old dusty 1496E.
> That works ;-)

Really? Which firmware revision do you use? Mine is 6.01 and it does NOT 
work as it should. I get more and more calls from angry customers who get 
the same page up to 10 times.

	Alexandre

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Alexandre Meissonnier
Dohle Handelsgruppe Systemberatung GmbH
53719 Siegburg (Germany)
ameissonnier@dohle.com

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
To: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
Subject: Re: flexfax: Re: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
From: Phil Abercrombie <Philip.Abercrombie@MCS.VUW.AC.NZ>
Date: 15 Oct 1997 10:15:34 +1300
Lines: 17
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net> writes:


> Oh, and just another thing. How can I make "faxrm" use an
> administrative account? I have no problem removing faxes
> from the queue with a telnet connection to the fax server
> and using the JKILL command, but faxrm _always_ fails with 
> "504 Cannot kill job: Operation not permitted.", regardless 
> which account I use.
> 
> Any hints?

Get Jonathan Chen's patch to add a "-a" option to faxrm, last seen on
this list in message
<Pine.SGI.3.96.970924120507.20208E-100000@tui.pinnacle.co.nz>

        -phiL

From ab@ivm.net  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:55:26 +0100 (MET)
From: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Phil Watkinson wrote:

Hi,

> Yes, in the html docs, the chapter "Advanced Server Configuration", and
> there's a whole section about it entitled "Modems that Lie about their
> Capabilities".
> 
> Also there, in the Modems chapter, is a full page on the ZyXEL 1496, which
> altho' a bit dated, recommends this modem *if* the firmware revision is
> v6.13 or later.

thanks, I'll take a look at the docs.

> Unfortunately I cannot see anything specific about your 'error after
> issuing the MPS command' in the docs.
> 
> Good luck, and I hope you get it sorted,

Well, I'm playing around a bit. Yesterday someone recommended to
drive the Zyxel with the Class-2 interface instead of Class-2.0.
I'm not sure, but it seems to work better. At least, this night
we had only one or two MPS problems instead of 5 to 10. Although,
with different errors now :-/

I'll post a xferlog snippet in seperate mail. Perhaps someone
understands what happens now...

Cheers,
Andy

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From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:50:11 +0100
To: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
Cc: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

At 12:57 14/10/1997 +0100, Andy wrote:
>[snip]
>Class2DCCQueryCmd:      "!(0,1),(0-7),(0-4),(0-2),(0),(0),(0),(0-7)"
>
>which doesn't work either. 
>Is there any description of the Class2DCCQueryCmd that is more
>informational than just "use this one if you have trouble with..." ?
>
>[snip]

Yes, in the html docs, the chapter "Advanced Server Configuration", and
there's a whole section about it entitled "Modems that Lie about their
Capabilities".

Also there, in the Modems chapter, is a full page on the ZyXEL 1496, which
altho' a bit dated, recommends this modem *if* the firmware revision is
v6.13 or later.

Unfortunately I cannot see anything specific about your 'error after
issuing the MPS command' in the docs.

Good luck, and I hope you get it sorted,

Cheers,
Phil Watkinson,
Boston, UK.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:55:26 +0100 (MET)
From: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Phil Watkinson wrote:

Hi,

> Yes, in the html docs, the chapter "Advanced Server Configuration", and
> there's a whole section about it entitled "Modems that Lie about their
> Capabilities".
> 
> Also there, in the Modems chapter, is a full page on the ZyXEL 1496, which
> altho' a bit dated, recommends this modem *if* the firmware revision is
> v6.13 or later.

thanks, I'll take a look at the docs.

> Unfortunately I cannot see anything specific about your 'error after
> issuing the MPS command' in the docs.
> 
> Good luck, and I hope you get it sorted,

Well, I'm playing around a bit. Yesterday someone recommended to
drive the Zyxel with the Class-2 interface instead of Class-2.0.
I'm not sure, but it seems to work better. At least, this night
we had only one or two MPS problems instead of 5 to 10. Although,
with different errors now :-/

I'll post a xferlog snippet in seperate mail. Perhaps someone
understands what happens now...

Cheers,
Andy

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From ab@ivm.net  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:10:00 +0100 (MET)
From: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>, HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496



Hi again,

since I switched to the Class-2 driver we had no more MPS problems
with our Zyxel modems. To be more precise, we had *no* transmission
failures in the past 36 hours or so. During this time, we sent out
about 200 pages.

I thought this might be of interest for you.

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Andreas Busse wrote:
> Well, I'm playing around a bit. Yesterday someone recommended to
> drive the Zyxel with the Class-2 interface instead of Class-2.0.
> I'm not sure, but it seems to work better. At least, this night
> we had only one or two MPS problems instead of 5 to 10. Although,
> with different errors now :-/
> 
> I'll post a xferlog snippet in seperate mail. Perhaps someone
> understands what happens now...
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
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From spine001@gold.tc.umn.edu  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Comments: Authenticated sender is <spine001@gold.tc.umn.edu>
From: Julio C Spinelli <spine001@gold.tc.umn.edu>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>, HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>,
        Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:25:48 +0000
Subject: Re: flexfax: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
X-Confirm-Reading-To: Spine001@gold.tc.umn.edu
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Priority: normal

Hi,

I am looking to buy more modems for my setup. and Zyxel sounds like a 
good choice. Could you clarify whether this 200 faxes was 
international traffic or USA traffic? And exactly what model number 
was, Hylafax prints out the exact model number in the log files.

Thanks,

Julio
> Date:          Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:10:00 +0100 (MET)
> From:          Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
> To:            Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>,
>                HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
> Subject:       Re: flexfax: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496

> 
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> since I switched to the Class-2 driver we had no more MPS problems
> with our Zyxel modems. To be more precise, we had *no* transmission
> failures in the past 36 hours or so. During this time, we sent out
> about 200 pages.
> 
> I thought this might be of interest for you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> 
> On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Andreas Busse wrote:
> > Well, I'm playing around a bit. Yesterday someone recommended to
> > drive the Zyxel with the Class-2 interface instead of Class-2.0.
> > I'm not sure, but it seems to work better. At least, this night
> > we had only one or two MPS problems instead of 5 to 10. Although,
> > with different errors now :-/
> > 
> > I'll post a xferlog snippet in seperate mail. Perhaps someone
> > understands what happens now...
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Andy
> > 
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------------------------- ab@ivm.net ---
> >   | \    / |\  /|  Gesellschaft fuer   | Andreas Busse
> >   |  \  /  | \/ |  Internet,           | Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf
> >   |   \/   |    |  Vernetzung und      | tel 02636-97690 fax 02636-9769-999
> >                    Mehrwertdienste mbH | info@ivm.net - http://www.ivm.net/
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> 
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------- ab@ivm.net ---
>   | \    / |\  /|  Gesellschaft fuer   | Andreas Busse
>   |  \  /  | \/ |  Internet,           | Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf
>   |   \/   |    |  Vernetzung und      | tel 02636-97690 fax 02636-9769-999
>                    Mehrwertdienste mbH | info@ivm.net - http://www.ivm.net/
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:38:57 +0100 (MET)
From: Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
To: Julio C Spinelli <spine001@gold.tc.umn.edu>
cc: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>, HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
X-NCC-RegID: DE.IVM
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Julio C Spinelli wrote:

Hi,

ehm, we're located in germany. And the 200 faxes were sent out to
destinations in our region.

Regarding the model types, currently we're running a really old
ZYXEL U1496E/V 6.15 M.

Regards,
Andy


However, 
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking to buy more modems for my setup. and Zyxel sounds like a 
> good choice. Could you clarify whether this 200 faxes was 
> international traffic or USA traffic? And exactly what model number 
> was, Hylafax prints out the exact model number in the log files.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Julio
> > Date:          Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:10:00 +0100 (MET)
> > From:          Andreas Busse <ab@ivm.net>
> > To:            Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>,
> >                HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
> > Subject:       Re: flexfax: Still having problems with Zyxel 1496
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi again,
> > 
> > since I switched to the Class-2 driver we had no more MPS problems
> > with our Zyxel modems. To be more precise, we had *no* transmission
> > failures in the past 36 hours or so. During this time, we sent out
> > about 200 pages.
> > 
> > I thought this might be of interest for you.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Andreas Busse wrote:
> > > Well, I'm playing around a bit. Yesterday someone recommended to
> > > drive the Zyxel with the Class-2 interface instead of Class-2.0.
> > > I'm not sure, but it seems to work better. At least, this night
> > > we had only one or two MPS problems instead of 5 to 10. Although,
> > > with different errors now :-/
> > > 
> > > I'll post a xferlog snippet in seperate mail. Perhaps someone
> > > understands what happens now...
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Andy
> > > 
> > > --
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ab@ivm.net ---
> > >   | \    / |\  /|  Gesellschaft fuer   | Andreas Busse
> > >   |  \  /  | \/ |  Internet,           | Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf
> > >   |   \/   |    |  Vernetzung und      | tel 02636-97690 fax 02636-9769-999
> > >                    Mehrwertdienste mbH | info@ivm.net - http://www.ivm.net/
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------------------------- ab@ivm.net ---
> >   | \    / |\  /|  Gesellschaft fuer   | Andreas Busse
> >   |  \  /  | \/ |  Internet,           | Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf
> >   |   \/   |    |  Vernetzung und      | tel 02636-97690 fax 02636-9769-999
> >                    Mehrwertdienste mbH | info@ivm.net - http://www.ivm.net/
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> 

--
-------------------------------------------------------------- ab@ivm.net ---
  | \    / |\  /|  Gesellschaft fuer   | Andreas Busse
  |  \  /  | \/ |  Internet,           | Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf
  |   \/   |    |  Vernetzung und      | tel 02636-97690 fax 02636-9769-999
                   Mehrwertdienste mbH | info@ivm.net - http://www.ivm.net/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:25:33 +0100
To: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
From: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
Subject: flexfax: Update of html documentation for pl2
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com


Hi.

I would like to do my bit for the forthcoming patch level 2, and would
like to co-ordinate the update of the html documentation.

The current html pages, as written by Sam Leffler, are of an excellent
quality; and, as it says in the overview, there are 'gobs' of it. 
They're readable yet precise. I believe that all that is needed is a 
minor revision plus additional info for any new features.

This is a list of the items that need to be revised - there're in no
particular order, and listed just has I have thought of them :-

A. Information on the new features of pl2 (and perhaps of pl1 as well?).

B. Emphasis to new users to install binary distributions rather than try
   to compile the sources.

C. Mention the PC client programs available, WinFlex and Whfc. 
   And MacFlex for the Mac ( any more?).

D. Update the list of modems and their capabilities

E. I would like to see the TODO list put into html (if only to gain a
   wider audience).

F. Some basic info on regular expressions (as used in the hosts and 
   destctrls files) would be very useful.

G. Add to the Troubleshooting page info about :-
         * the 'cannot remove fax' message from faxrm
         * how to add a switchboard prefix number via dialrules
         * email attachments processed through faxmail
         * any more? (But not trying to repeat the FAQ)


Any comments?  Anything else that should be added? How about info which
is now obsolete and should be deleted? I will try to mail Sam and ask
his permission to alter his work once we are happy about what needs to be
done. 

Phil Watkinson,
Boston, UK.

From owner-flexfax@celestial.com  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:04:03 -0300 (GMT+3)
From: Ben Parker <ben@dha.unon.org>
Reply-To: Ben Parker <ben@dha.unon.org>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Update of html documentation for pl2
Sender: owner-flexfax@celestial.com

Sounds good.

1. Let's have the format of a faxmail attachment converter. This drove me
mad until a kind soul (David) read the c source to work it out. 

#!/usr/bin/bash
#This script will let the GIF image through but 
#will try to squeeze it on the same page
#/usr/local/sbin/faxmail/image/gif
giftopnm $1 | ppmtopgm | pnmtops -scale 20

There then remains a problem with fitting it to a separate page full size.
You will need to massage the Postscript output to prevent it appearing a
20th of its proper size in the bottom left-hand corner. I have just sent
an example to the mailing list.


2. I would also be happy to "contrib" my hybrid of Bob and Dirk's
faxmailer - works on Linux (RedHat 2.0.27 and others). Neither Bob nor
Dirk's really worked as advertized, but comprised the basis for the
hybrid, which is unpolished but works. 

Ben


On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Phil Watkinson wrote:

> 
> Hi.
> 
> I would like to do my bit for the forthcoming patch level 2, and would
> like to co-ordinate the update of the html documentation.
> 

From raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:44:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nico Garcia <raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu>
To: Phil Watkinson <pkw@elgro.co.uk>
Cc: HylaFAX List <flexfax@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: flexfax: Update of html documentation for pl2

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On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Phil Watkinson wrote:

> G. Add to the Troubleshooting page info about :-
>          * the 'cannot remove fax' message from faxrm
>          * how to add a switchboard prefix number via dialrules
>          * email attachments processed through faxmail
>          * any more? (But not trying to repeat the FAQ)

Good ones. I'll try to add the switchboard prefix as an example to
the dialrules page.

			Nico Garcia
			Engineer, CIRL 
			Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary
			raoul@cirl.meei.harvard.edu

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From Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de  Wed Feb 17 13:55:42 1999
From: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de
Subject: Re: flexfax: Update of html documentation for pl2
To: pkw@elgro.co.uk (Phil Watkinson)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 13:59:06 +0200 (MSZ)
Cc: flexfax@sgi.com
>From: guru@sisis.de (Matthias Apitz)
Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SOFTCON.de (Matthias Apitz)
X-FAX-cover: faxcover-sisis.ps

Phil Watkinson wrote:
    
    
    Hi.
    
    I would like to do my bit for the forthcoming patch level 2, and would
    like to co-ordinate the update of the html documentation.

Most of the HTML documentation is part of the nomal HylaFAX
source distribution (and part of the RCS repository I got
from Sam). If you want to change HTML files or add new pages
please send me diff's to patch the old ones or new files.
I'ld be happy to integrated them into the pl2.
    
    The current html pages, as written by Sam Leffler, are of an excellent
    quality; and, as it says in the overview, there are 'gobs' of it. 
    They're readable yet precise. I believe that all that is needed is a 
    minor revision plus additional info for any new features.
    
    This is a list of the items that need to be revised - there're in no
    particular order, and listed just has I have thought of them :-
    
    A. Information on the new features of pl2 (and perhaps of pl1 as well?).

The (new) features and changes of pl1 are in the page html/v4.0beta022.html
(beta022 is also known as pl1) and the changes for pl2 will be in
a page html/v4.0beta023.html delivered with the new patch level after
the beta-test phase. I'll create this file.
    
    B. Emphasis to new users to install binary distributions rather than try
       to compile the sources.
    
    C. Mention the PC client programs available, WinFlex and Whfc. 
       And MacFlex for the Mac ( any more?).
    
    D. Update the list of modems and their capabilities
    
    E. I would like to see the TODO list put into html (if only to gain a
       wider audience).
    
    F. Some basic info on regular expressions (as used in the hosts and 
       destctrls files) would be very useful.
    
    G. Add to the Troubleshooting page info about :-
             * the 'cannot remove fax' message from faxrm
             * how to add a switchboard prefix number via dialrules
             * email attachments processed through faxmail
             * any more? (But not trying to repeat the FAQ)
    
    
    Any comments?  Anything else that should be added? How about info which
    is now obsolete and should be deleted? I will try to mail Sam and ask
    his permission to alter his work once we are happy about what needs to be
    done. 

I can't see any reason to bother Sam for permission (see the copyright
information).

	matthias

