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DISCID=a008600d
DTITLE=The Cure / Three Imaginary Boys (Deluxe Edition) - Disc 1 of 2
DYEAR=1979
DGENRE=Rock
TTITLE0=10.15 Saturday Night
TTITLE1=Accuracy
TTITLE2=Grinding Halt
TTITLE3=Another Day
TTITLE4=Object
TTITLE5=Subway Song
TTITLE6=Foxy Lady
TTITLE7=Meathook
TTITLE8=So What
TTITLE9=Fire In Cairo
TTITLE10=It's Not You
TTITLE11=Three Imaginary Boys
TTITLE12=The Weedy Burton
EXTD=Three Imaginary Boys (Deluxe Edition) - Disc 1 of 2\n2005 Rhino E
EXTD=ntertainment Company\n\nOriginally Released June 1979\nCD Edition
EXTD= (US) ''Boys Don't Cry'' Released February 1988\nDeluxe 2CD Editi
EXTD=on Released December 7, 2004\nRemastered 1CD Edition Released Apr
EXTD=il 4, 2006\n\nAMG EXPERT REVIEW: How to handle the B-sides, rarit
EXTD=ies, and sock-drawer discoveries? It's the dilemma of any band wi
EXTD=th an exhaustive series of reissues ahead of it. The results, no 
EXTD=matter what they might be, are bound to cause a mix of jubilation
EXTD=, confusion, and frustration throughout the fan base -- especiall
EXTD=y when the band in question is the Cure. There's no clean, obviou
EXTD=s way to do it. Rhino's elaborate overhauling of the Cure's back 
EXTD=catalog assumes that you have been a rabid follower throughout th
EXTD=e years and will want every piece of the puzzle. Cure fans being 
EXTD=Cure fans, it's not a foolish judgment to make, and it's the one 
EXTD=that should cause the least amount of consternation. Following th
EXTD=e four-disc Join the Dots box, Rhino continued with a two-disc ex
EXTD=panded form of Three Imaginary Boys, originally released in 1979 
EXTD=as the band's first album. Since the B-sides from this era appear
EXTD= on the box, they aren't included on the rarities disc that accom
EXTD=panies the album proper. This allows plenty of room for demos, li
EXTD=ve versions, and orphaned songs. "Jumping Someone Else's Train" a
EXTD=nd "Boys Don't Cry" -- two non-album A-sides -- are included, as 
EXTD=is "World War," a song that appeared on initial copies and was pr
EXTD=esumably extracted for being, as Robert Smith accurately claims, 
EXTD="a terrible piece of rubbish." ("Killing an Arab" is conspicuousl
EXTD=y absent, possibly left out in order to reel in fans when the del
EXTD=uxe singles anthology surfaces.) The four live tracks, due to poo
EXTD=r sound quality, aren't worth a second listen, though the breakne
EXTD=ck-tempo take on "10:15 Saturday Night" and the frantic "Heroin F
EXTD=ace" are both jolting. Unsurprisingly, the demos and outtakes are
EXTD= key attractions for the insatiable fans. Four studio demos from 
EXTD=1978 are a major draw, with Smith's boyish and alluringly ho-hum 
EXTD=vocals in stark contrast to what is heard on the album, and the r
EXTD=elatively strenuous instrumentation isn't nearly as spindly. Not 
EXTD=to be outdone, disc one contains a remastered Three Imaginary Boy
EXTD=s that sounds far more crisp and bold than the initial, thin-soun
EXTD=ding CD version. Plenty of photos and biographical liner notes ar
EXTD=e included. This all bodes well for the reissues that will follow
EXTD=. -- Andy Kellman\n\nAmazon.com Editorial Review\nThough this 197
EXTD=9 debut album by The Cure would scarcely dent the Top 50 in the U
EXTD=K and entirely forego an official American release (though a hand
EXTD=ful of tracks would appear on the US-only compilation Boys Don't 
EXTD=Cry), it remains equal parts touchstone and curiosity for Cure fa
EXTD=ithful. It's easy to see why mainstay Robert Smith has long had m
EXTD=ixed feelings about it: The spare, angular performances and New W
EXTD=ave-y production cliches often seem more akin to Devo or the B-52
EXTD='s. Smith himself hadn't quite perfected the moody wail that woul
EXTD=d make him a pioneering goth icon, though there are hints of dark
EXTD= things to come on the title track and "10:15 Saturday Night." Th
EXTD=e real attraction here is the set's 20-song bonus disc, a treasur
EXTD=e trove of primal Cure that includes key A-sides ("Boys Don't Cry
EXTD=," "Jumping Someone Else's Train"), early outtakes and demos (inc
EXTD=luding the Ziggy-esque "I Want to Be Old" from '77, more emblemat
EXTD=ic tracks from the following year and a haunting Smith home-recor
EXTD=ding of "10:15" that shows how focused the singer's instincts wer
EXTD=e when left to his own devices) and some energetic, if sonically 
EXTD=flawed live tracks. It's a must for Cure fans, an intriguing, war
EXTD=ts-'n'-all portrait of a seminal rock band finding its true voice
EXTD=. --Jerry McCulley \n\nAmazon.com Product Description\nOriginally
EXTD= a postpunk outfit with gothic leanings, The Cure evolved into on
EXTD=e of the most visionary, creatively satisfying and influential gr
EXTD=oups to come of age in the 1980's. From dreamy pop to moody expre
EXTD=ssionism, their signature sound is adventurous, hypnotic, and ric
EXTD=h with texture. Formed in 1976 by Robert Smith and schoolmates Mi
EXTD=chael Dempsey (bass) and Laurence Tolhurst (drums), The Cure's st
EXTD=unning debut album on U.K.-based Fiction Records launched an extr
EXTD=aordinary career and enduring worldwide popularity. \n\nAMAZON.CO
EXTD=M CUSTOMER REVIEW\nDisappointing Reissue, December 14, 2004\nRevi
EXTD=ewer: Silverbear\nLet me begin with my heretical statement of the
EXTD= day: The U.S. album "Boys Don't Cry" has always been tighter and
EXTD= more coherent to my ears than the U.K. release "Three Imaginary 
EXTD=Boys." Nevertheless, this could have been an opportunity to recon
EXTD=cile the two albums by offering not only the overlapping songs, b
EXTD=ut also the tracks exclusive to each album. Unfortunately, the om
EXTD=ission of "Killing an Arab" and "Plastic Passion" negates that po
EXTD=ssibility. \n\nTo make matters worse, Rhino seems to have comprom
EXTD=ised its commitment to creating good value for the customer with 
EXTD=this release. Rhino's reissues of the Elvis Costello catalog have
EXTD= included secondary discs containing demos and other rarities, bu
EXTD=t Rhino has wisely and fairly sold these two-CD sets for about $1
EXTD=5. This practice has reflected the lesser value of demos and rehe
EXTD=arsal tracks, which are interesting to hear once or twice but whi
EXTD=ch don't invite the repeat listening associated with album tracks
EXTD=. It's sort of like going to an art museum and seeing the artist'
EXTD=s preliminary sketches alongside the finished work. The sketches 
EXTD=are interesting to see once or twice as a window into the creativ
EXTD=e process, but they are not something I want to see again and aga
EXTD=in, especially if I have to pay more to see them. \n\nWith the re
EXTD=issue of "Three Imaginary Boys," one has to pay approximately $25
EXTD= for two CDs, but there is only one CD worth of album-quality mat
EXTD=erial. I was planning to replace my cure CDs (everything from "Bo
EXTD=ys Don't Cry" to "Bloodflowers") with remastered versions, but if
EXTD= this pricing trend continues, I'll stick with my existing copies
EXTD=. They sound pretty good already, and the demos on the secondary 
EXTD=disc just aren't as interesting as the impressive b-sides on the 
EXTD="Join the Dots" box set, which was an excellent product from Rhin
EXTD=o. \n\nI hope that for "Seventeen Seconds" and everything afterwa
EXTD=rd, Rhino returns to its customary attention to value pricing in 
EXTD=reissues. Universal and Sony may be repackaging classic albums as
EXTD= bloated and overpriced two-CD "deluxe" or "legacy" editions, but
EXTD= Rhino can do better.\n\nAMAZON.COM CUSTOMER REVIEW\n1 Great Disc
EXTD= + 1 Imaginary Disc, September 11, 2005\nReviewer: F. Moses "insu
EXTD=ltant1" (Gahanna, Ohio United States)\nI was more than geeked to 
EXTD=see the first American release of "Three Imaginary Boys" after me
EXTD=rely 25 years in the waiting. Yep, I heard the album before this 
EXTD=Rhino reissue 2-disc edition on a import cassette I borrowed from
EXTD= a friend more than a decade ago. It always shocked me how the U.
EXTD=S. Electra label narrowed the U.S. listeners down to the "Boys Do
EXTD=n't Cry" album, especially after the disc version came out and el
EXTD=iminated the songs "World War" & "Object"--two of my favorite tun
EXTD=es from the band's 1st U.S. vinyl release. Yep, I realize the Rob
EXTD=ert Smith didn't quite care for "World War"--but it's among the t
EXTD=op ten of my favorite Cure melodies to date--probably because the
EXTD= lyrics sort of ring a true bell to today's recent castrophies in
EXTD= U.S. history. \n\nMy question to Rhino Records--why the 2nd disc
EXTD=?!? It's great to hear some of the Cure "uncut/rarities" for the 
EXTD=first time, but some of the tunes contained on the 2nd disc are b
EXTD=arely listenable, such as the home demos of "10:15 on a Saturday 
EXTD=Night", "the Coctail Party", "Boys Don't Cry" and "Grinding Halt.
EXTD=" These outtakes are entertaining during the first listen and lik
EXTD=e dynamite for us Cure fanatics, but are a little too sloppy to p
EXTD=ay an extra chunk for a two-disc set! On that note--I was very gr
EXTD=eatful to hear "Faded Smiles...," "Play With Me," and "Winter" fo
EXTD=r the first time. It's hard to believe that these tunes were buri
EXTD=ed and forgotten. \n\nI would have given the original release rei
EXTD=ssue version of "Three Imaginary Boys" a whole five big stars, bu
EXTD=t the 2nd disc of the Rhino reissue ruined it for me. The band be
EXTD=comes too over-exposed, and the outtakes are too sloppy. \n\nThis
EXTD= reissue could have been narrowed down to one disc with the addit
EXTD=ion of "World War," "I Want to be Old," "Winter," "Faded Smiles" 
EXTD=and "Play With Me." The rest of the 2nd disc becomes a distractio
EXTD=n of live versions, home versions, and "too many versions heard" 
EXTD=of the same songs all over again. After hearing this 1st bunch of
EXTD= the Rhino reissues of the Cure, I'm a little skeptical of whethe
EXTD=r or not I will buy any more of the reissues of the Cure on Rhino
EXTD=. Perhaps this opinion will change once the label buys up the rig
EXTD=hts to the Cure classics "the Top," & "Japanese Whispers." But, u
EXTD=ntil then--I'm only sleeping. \n\nAMAZON.COM CUSTOMER REVIEW\nA N
EXTD=ice reissue but lacking , May 4, 2005\nReviewer: S. Wetzel "music
EXTD= /movie fan"\nThis is the first in a series of double-disk reissu
EXTD=es of the Cure's Fiction/Elektra catalog by Rhino. As is becoming
EXTD= a common practice with Rhino reissues, the second disk of bonus 
EXTD=cuts includes non-LP B-sides, demos, live versions, or alternate 
EXTD=takes of the original album. I own the previous US edition known 
EXTD=as Boys Don't Cry and was glad to finally see the Cure's debut al
EXTD=bum released here as it was intended to be. The songs are not the
EXTD= mopy doom and gloom that the Cure's cultish fan base has embrace
EXTD=d, but rather a collection of punk pop songs, none of which total
EXTD=ly jumps out and screams "I'm a classic!" In fact, the overall im
EXTD=pression is a bit derivative of Siouxsie and other punk and post-
EXTD=punk bands of the same era. I would think many of the Goths who w
EXTD=orship at the shrine of Robert Smith would be shocked that this i
EXTD=s the same band. Of course, the twist here is that it is not. Smi
EXTD=th has been the only constant in an ever-shifting roster of side 
EXTD=players. Only since the 1990's has there been a more-or-less regu
EXTD=lar membership. It is interesting to note how the sound of the Cu
EXTD=re has evolved from these early recordings. My only quibble with 
EXTD=this reissue is the omission of the controversial single, "Killin
EXTD=g An Arab." \n\nFor a record company who prides itself on reissui
EXTD=ng past catalog albums with more-or-less complete bonus tracks, t
EXTD=he absence of this track (recorded and released during the same p
EXTD=eriod) stands out like a big flashing light. Smith himself has go
EXTD=ne on record defending the song that it was not meant as an anti-
EXTD=Arab sentiment, but rather an interpretation of an Albert Camus n
EXTD=ovel. The track was on the US Boys Don't Cry version of the album
EXTD=, and is still available on the Staring at the Sea Singles Collec
EXTD=tion. I wonder if the current state of political correctness and 
EXTD=issues over Arabic discrimination has resulted in this omission. 
EXTD=It's never been one of my favorite Cure songs, but again, from a 
EXTD=historical standpoint, the omission now seems like censorship. \n
EXTD=\nAll of that aside, if you're a fan of the Cure, you will probab
EXTD=ly like this reissue (even with that missing track). If you haven
EXTD='t yet discovered the Cure and are feeling a bit adventurous, thi
EXTD=s is the place to start and then purchase the series in order as 
EXTD=the reissues are released (I've purchased those also as they came
EXTD= out at the end of April 2005). This would show the evolution of 
EXTD=the Cure as recording artists. If you've already got the original
EXTD= CD release, this would be a completist's dream. Don't forget, th
EXTD=e old CD releases were rush jobs to get the product in the store 
EXTD=and the sound on them is horrible. The sound quality here is much
EXTD= better than those Elektra CD's. \n\nOne other note: the next 3 r
EXTD=eissues contain lyric sheets (at least for the original album tra
EXTD=cks, but not the bonus tracks). Three Imaginary Boys has a bookle
EXTD=t with liner notes but no lyrics to these songs. Perhaps they're 
EXTD=available at the Cure's website. Again a minor blemish to a nice 
EXTD=reissue. \n\nAMAZON.COM CUSTOMER REVIEW\nStop Remastering! (Unles
EXTD=s you do it right)., January 28, 2005\nReviewer: Damian J. Spoone
EXTD=r "DJ" (Valley Glen, USA)\nJust pointing out that the beginning o
EXTD=f The Weedy Burton is missing (studio chatter). The end of Three 
EXTD=Imaginary Boys has too much silence (guess the pro remixing idiot
EXTD= didn't hear the studio talk) , don't these people at least liste
EXTD=n to the original mix, before they RUIN it. There may be more wro
EXTD=ng, but I'm too piffed off to listen again.\n\nAMAZON.COM CUSTOME
EXTD=R REVIEW\nClose, but not quite, January 6, 2005\nReviewer: Terest
EXTD=ai (Littleton, Colorado USA)\nI'll start this out by saying that 
EXTD=this would be a five-star review if it had included "Killing An A
EXTD=rab," but since that topic has been thoroughly exhausted, I'll mo
EXTD=ve on. \n\nThe sound quality of this set is a marked improvement 
EXTD=over the original releases, and it's nice to have remastered vers
EXTD=ions of the non-album singles "Boys Don't Cry" and "Jumping Someo
EXTD=ne Else's Train." True, they were on the 2000 greatest hits album
EXTD=, but why not take advantage of another four years of remastering
EXTD= technology? As long as they didn't take up valuable real estate 
EXTD=on the CD that could have been used for other tracks, then I see 
EXTD=no harm done in presenting all of these songs in one place. \n\nA
EXTD=nd yes, it's true that they included a few of the Easy Cure demos
EXTD= but not all of them, but it's not so odd given the nature of the
EXTD=se expanded albums (to the reviewer below me, "See The Children" 
EXTD=is a great one!). We have to face up to the fact that these delux
EXTD=e editions walk a fine line between having to cater to the hardco
EXTD=re crowd that own the bootlegs as well as to the casual listener.
EXTD= I know it's unfathomable to those of us in the former crowd as t
EXTD=o why the latter always slags albums for having "too many songs t
EXTD=hey don't know," but such is the case. Some bands go ahead and re
EXTD=lease everything warts and all, some hold back. Robert is known t
EXTD=o be notoriously picky so is it any wonder The Cure fall into the
EXTD= second category? \n\nBesides, once you start putting on one or t
EXTD=wo tracks from known bootlegs, the die-hards always come out of t
EXTD=he woodwork to complain about what's missing. The Kinks just put 
EXTD=out a three-disc edition of their Village Green Preservation Soci
EXTD=ety album that contained the mono and stereo versions of the rele
EXTD=ased album, the alternate mixes from the scrapped album, the mono
EXTD= and stereo versions of all the singles, b-sides and rare tracks 
EXTD=of the era. Do you know what most reviews revolve around? The fac
EXTD=t that they left off two tracks from a bootleg that's been availa
EXTD=ble for years. Almost 60 songs and everyone complained about two 
EXTD=missing ones that they already own. We live in an imperfect world
EXTD= and must sometimes roll with the punches. This set is well-balan
EXTD=ced, though I'm sure we could have done with only two different v
EXTD=ersions of "10.15 Saturday Night." \n\nAnd to the same reviewer b
EXTD=emoaning the omission of "I'm A Cult Hero" and "I Dig You," remem
EXTD=ber that those tracks were recorded after Matthieu Hartley was fi
EXTD=red and with Simon Gallup on bass. They may have featured Porl Th
EXTD=ompson on guitar (back for that one single from the Easy Cure day
EXTD=s), but they were not Easy Cure songs. They were released after t
EXTD=he Seventeen Seconds album, so don't give up hope on their future
EXTD= release either on the expanded editions of Seventeen Seconds or 
EXTD=Faith. I'd put money on the former given the somber mood of the l
EXTD=atter. \n\nStill, in an atmosphere where even Disney is releasing
EXTD= their racier cartoons with disclaimers about the nature of their
EXTD= inception, The Cure should have included "Killing An Arab" on th
EXTD=is set with the story behind it (based as it was on "The Stranger
EXTD=" by Albert Camus).\n\nAMAZON.COM CUSTOMER REVIEW\n...and One Ima
EXTD=ginary Debut Single, apparently, December 13, 2004\nReviewer: REX
EXTD= (Chicago)\nRegarding "Killing an Arab": Before anyone posts abou
EXTD=t how the band's classic debut single wasn't supposed to be on th
EXTD=is album in the first place, please give us some credit. We know 
EXTD=this. \n\nWhat this compilation attempts to be is a definitive do
EXTD=cument of the Cure's history from 1977-79. It collects the remast
EXTD=ered debut album (never officially released in the U.S. in this f
EXTD=orm prior to this) on Disc 1, and a generous handful of rarities 
EXTD=and bonus tracks on Disc 2. As such, every track officially relea
EXTD=sed on prior versions of this album and its contemporaneous singl
EXTD=es is present and remastered, minus a pair of B-sides ("Plastic P
EXTD=assion," "I'm Cold") that appropriately appeared on this year's e
EXTD=arlier B-sides box, Join the Dots... Every track is present, that
EXTD= is, except for "Killing an Arab." \n\nThe reason why some of us 
EXTD=are up in arms over this? Do the math. The band's 2nd and 3rd sin
EXTD=gles ("Boys Don't Cry" and "Jumping Someone Else's Train") are he
EXTD=re, and the bonus disc has 14 minutes of available space left on 
EXTD=it. "Killing an Arab" was not on the remastered Greatest Hits col
EXTD=lection from 2001, and if the record execs were "saving" this his
EXTD=torical cornerstone for some sort of remastered Staring at the Se
EXTD=a, why wouldn't they "save" the other singles as well? \n\nSimply
EXTD= put, the song has been discarded. It looks as if, in the current
EXTD= political climate, the song, which has no racist overtones to it
EXTD=s content whatsoever, was deliberately omitted as an act of cowar
EXTD=dice and self-censorship. \n\nWhile most Cure fans will undoubted
EXTD=ly appreciate the amazing rarities here - and some of them are tr
EXTD=uly gems - some of us have even more appreciation for historical 
EXTD=accuracy. I would rather have one debut single that has been a pa
EXTD=rt of the rock pantheon for over 25 years than five, ten, twenty,
EXTD= or a million previously unreleased curios that are attempting to
EXTD= compensate for a rewriting of history. \n\nFor the record, the s
EXTD=ound quality here is quite good - the album sounds clean but not 
EXTD=overbright like some of the tracks on Join the Dots, and the extr
EXTD=as all sound as good as their sources allow them to be... However
EXTD=, I do agree that "World War" was obviously taken from an inferio
EXTD=r source as it is missing some high end. All in all, this project
EXTD= had great potential, but ends up something akin to botched plast
EXTD=ic surgery: on the surface it looks great, but look a little deep
EXTD=er and all you can see are unforgivable flaws.\n\nAMAZON.COM CUST
EXTD=OMER REVIEW\nCould have been a better reissue, December 13, 2004\n
EXTD=Reviewer: L. Gray\nWhy can't record labels get it right? We fans 
EXTD=have no problem shelling out cash for reissues, but it sure would
EXTD= be nice for them to be worth the money. What's positive? It's gr
EXTD=eat to have all the bonus material, especially to have World War 
EXTD=on CD, finally. I no longer have my TIB vinyl, but I believe all 
EXTD=the original cover art is reproduced. Now for the bad news: \n\n1
EXTD=. The sound is good, but other than being louder, it's not much o
EXTD=f an improvement over my original Three Imaginary Boys or Boys Do
EXTD=n't Cry CDs. I'm no golden-eared audiophile, but I've got plenty 
EXTD=of other remasters that are noticeably better than the versions t
EXTD=hey replaced. \n\n2. No Killing an Arab. This is just ridiculous.
EXTD= \n\n3. The cover art colors look horrible. I know it's not a gre
EXTD=at cover, but heck, they could have at least reproduced the origi
EXTD=nal colors properly. \n\n4. No plastic slipcase like other "Delux
EXTD=e Edition" reissues. The slipcase is cardboard and will start wea
EXTD=ring. Mine came slightly dented because of this. \n\n5. World War
EXTD= is finally on CD... but it's either a different mix from the Boy
EXTD=s Don't Cry LP, or there's just absolutely no high end on the tap
EXTD=e they used - it's so muddy you can hardly hear the cymbals compa
EXTD=red to the vinyl. \n\n6. The faint talking bit from the beginning
EXTD= of "The Weedy Burton" is missing (my player's time seems to skip
EXTD= about 15 seconds between the last two tracks, so this could be a
EXTD= CD indexing problem). \n\n7. The liner notes are a bit skimpy an
EXTD=d some are hard to read over the background. \n\nAre these picky 
EXTD=issues? You bet they are, but if record companies are constantly 
EXTD=going to pump out reissued product, make it worth it for the fans
EXTD=.\n\nHalf.com Notes\nThe 2004 US release of THREE IMAGINARY BOYS 
EXTD=was a momentous event for stateside Cure fans, as it marked the f
EXTD=irst time the band's 1979 debut album had ever been available on 
EXTD=CD in America. Equally enticing is the bonus disc containing '77-
EXTD='79 demos, live tracks, and other rarities. The Cure's first US r
EXTD=elease was 1980's BOYS DON'T CRY, which replaced a number of TIB'
EXTD=s tracks with previously non-LP singles, presenting a significant
EXTD=ly different picture of the band.\nFar from the cloudy, effects-d
EXTD=renched goth-pop sound that later became its trademark, the Cure 
EXTD=is in stripped-down mode here, delivering fairly straight-ahead p
EXTD=ost-punk tunes suggestive of a less angst-ridden Joy Division or 
EXTD=a funkless Gang of Four. The stark, rhythm-guitar-dominated sound
EXTD= makes excellent use of space, suggesting a familiarity with dub 
EXTD=that's confirmed by the reggae-tinged "Meat Hook" (one of the tra
EXTD=cks left off BOYS DON'T CRY). The rarities disc completes the pic
EXTD=ture, showing the earliest developmental stages of the band and p
EXTD=resenting staples such as "Boys Don't Cry" and "10:15 Saturday Ni
EXTD=ght" in embryonic form.\n\nIndustry Reviews\n[A]mazing...\n\n4 st
EXTD=ars out of 5 - In 1978, The Cure, suburban teens indebted to punk
EXTD=, sounded fresh and unusual even then, penning unorthodox pop lik
EXTD=e 'Fire In Cairo'.
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